The Netflix Transformers Spoiler Pack was a Spoiler After All
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For those who did not watch the show, we will reveal the biggest spoiler of the series before moving on, so you have been warned.
The infamous $50 Walmart exclusive Spoiler Pack had the words "spoilers inside" that referred to the Netflix series we had not seen yet and Hasbro had advised we only open it after watching the Netflix show. Now I see that the advice was sound. Not because it meant that we would spoil ourselves (which is probably what they meant) but because it would only make sense once we watched the show.
In the show, Ultra Magnus dies. It is a rather brutal death at the hands of Megatron and is what makes Jetfire switch sides.
Now that we know this, the toy's deco makes much more sense. For those who do not have the spoiler pack Ultra Magnus, the toy is made up of a lot of grey plastic with colour sprayed on. Many found the deco underwhelming as it didn't really look like battle damage. That's because it is not. It is Ultra Magnus having just been killed and his colour fading, making him become grey, just as Prime did in the original 86 film. Below is an image of the toy and you will see how that interpretation makes far more sense than anything else. The inclusion of rung, along with that pink colour scheme remains unexplained.
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 2nd, 2020 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 2nd, 2020 @ 2:01pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2020 @ 2:18pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if this revelation will make the figure more desirable.
I think so. The figure now means something at least.
Posted by starrhero on August 2nd, 2020 @ 2:30pm CDT
He's the Alpha Trion protocols, or more specifically he's holographic representation of Alpha Trion bumblebee sees with the protocols.
It's really the only thing that makes sense, as Rung couldn't be anything else that I can think of.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 2nd, 2020 @ 2:31pm CDT
Posted by StaceyK93 on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:04pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:15pm CDT
Anyway, I enjoyed it overall. I did get to make a joke out of the spoiler, though. I knew what it was, but didn't tell.
The next spoiler pack should maybe get a little more credit once it hits.
Posted by o.supreme on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:20pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:25pm CDT
Probably unlikely but hey the option's open unlike uh...Ultra Magnus he's kinda dead for sure, when his body started glowing I was honestly expecting him to survive or come out in the white Prime body. I think UM's death was executed well, a tad strange to kill him off but they might pull an IDW if needed and have someone else take up the role of Ultra Magnus if Kingdom ends up taking a 1986 route, probably not but anything could happen.
Spoiler Pack Rung represents Alpha Trion and/or the protocols, the AT in the show shares quite a few elements with Siege Rung's design, although now I question why the pack doesn't just contain Alpha Trion directly, maybe budget or they didn't want to be too spoilerish.
Posted by First-Aid on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:25pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Black Play-Doh still has no purpose
You can make a G1 Dead Optimus with it...
Posted by Lore Keeper on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:36pm CDT
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:48pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:When I first read the spoiler inside the box, I thought it had to be a red herring. I thought there was no way they'd kill off Ultra Magnus so early into the story because that would be stupid! Boy, do I wish I had been right...
Because big name characters should never die because their big name characters.
There isn't a reason Ultra Magnus should of lived for longer besides "I wanted him to"
It wasn't a stupid random death with no purpose like Moonracer (that was an actual terrible death), it was a death scene with a purpose and it had consequences, this wasn't a random "shock factor" death just for the sake of it.
If there is only a few things the show got right this was one of them, same with Impactor's death.
It's really the only thing that makes sense, as Rung couldn't be anything else that I can think of.[/quote]
I agree. There was actually a set up to that death and consequences to it, it was defnitely an integral part to the story they want to tell and not just there for shock value.
Posted by Deadput on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:53pm CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Guessing the other spoilers pack is shockwave. Wonder if he’ll come with a stand/tubing to wire up UM’s chest parts.....
Huh that would make some sense
My other two guesses regarding the second pack is either Soundblaster (maybe along with a repainted Impactor as one of his goons) or it might be something regarding Earthrise.
Posted by Lore Keeper on August 2nd, 2020 @ 3:57pm CDT
Deadput wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:Guessing the other spoilers pack is shockwave. Wonder if he’ll come with a stand/tubing to wire up UM’s chest parts.....
Huh that would make some sense
My other two guesses regarding the second pack is either Soundblaster (maybe along with a repainted Impactor as one of his goons) or it might be something regarding Earthrise.
Given the name "Giza" on the box, there's a lot of speculation it could be a leader Nemesis Prime from either leader Optimus mold. It could definitely be a spoiler for chapter 2. Personally, I think a Galaxy Upgrade Nemesis Prime would be amazing!
Posted by NTESHFT on August 2nd, 2020 @ 4:04pm CDT
The show was great but why so short?
And poor Moonracer....
Posted by Immortal Starscream on August 2nd, 2020 @ 7:59pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 2nd, 2020 @ 8:14pm CDT
Personally, event though it has nothing to do with the show, I would love a white and purple version of Astrotrain, I might buy him even with the useless extra crap, especially if it sells at $35 like Magnus did.
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2020 @ 9:14pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well considering that the spoiler pack has a direct connection to the events of the show, at least they did in the case of Magnus,
About that, I am surprised people are being very vocal about that still not being the case, more so on Facebook. I fail to see how it's anything but that, especially when the other theory is that this is the worst battle damage paint job we have ever seen. Also, that means there is no spoiler. At least with the "new" interpretation of this toy correlating with the show's events, we do get a sense of this toy being a spoiler of sorts.
Posted by StaceyK93 on August 2nd, 2020 @ 9:18pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2020 @ 10:35pm CDT
The good thing here is that it means people who missed out on Walmart preorders or who simply do not have Walmarts to buy the exclusive Netflix toys from have more options. Especially for exclusive retools like Elita-1 and Bumblebee.
Those two are currently available for preorder at Amazon Japan. They ship worldwide (shipping will be combined) and they are a bit less than $25 USD a piece.
Here are the links below:
Netflix Elita-1: https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%8 ... 47JSBSKZ37?tag=seibertron00-22&
Netflix Bumblebee: https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%8 ... oys&sr=1-1?tag=seibertron00-22&
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on August 3rd, 2020 @ 12:36am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2020 @ 12:38am CDT
Or perhaps another one of Shockwave's experiment clones.Sentinel_Primal wrote:It just occurred to me that Wave 2 is a lot of Earthrise molds (plus Red Alert), so maybe the spoiler pack will be for Chapter 2? If so, I could see it being a Nemesis Prime or Nova Prime from GUOP.Maybe as a "Mercenary" captain for the ship from the end of Chapter 1?
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on August 3rd, 2020 @ 12:39am CDT
Astrotrain was featured ominously in the show
Posted by Tilarta on August 3rd, 2020 @ 6:31pm CDT
And then it added something about increasing the quantity, which makes me think this is for wholesalers only.
So looks like at the moment, us Australians cannot obtain this Bumblebee toy.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 3rd, 2020 @ 8:29pm CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 3rd, 2020 @ 9:26pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:When is Bumblebee supposed to drop in the US? Is there a chance Japan will get it sooner?
Mid-October according to my Walmart pre-order.
Posted by Emerje on August 4th, 2020 @ 1:36am CDT
Not sure what the spoiler would be unless he shows up in Earthrise?
Emerje
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on August 4th, 2020 @ 2:03am CDT
Emerje wrote:Nemesis Prime is a pretty safe bet for the next spoiler box. It does say Fanguron Giza right on the front in Cybertronian in the same place it said Battlefield Rung on the previous box, that's Nemie's sword partner from PotP and Arms Microns. His name is Fanguron Giza so maybe it's a Slitherfang repaint? Giza has been a shark and a bird so far, why not a snake now?
Not sure what the spoiler would be unless he shows up in Earthrise?
Emerje
Small correction: the text says Fangtron, not Fanguron.
Posted by Emerje on August 4th, 2020 @ 2:09am CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Emerje wrote:Nemesis Prime is a pretty safe bet for the next spoiler box. It does say Fanguron Giza right on the front in Cybertronian in the same place it said Battlefield Rung on the previous box, that's Nemie's sword partner from PotP and Arms Microns. His name is Fanguron Giza so maybe it's a Slitherfang repaint? Giza has been a shark and a bird so far, why not a snake now?
Not sure what the spoiler would be unless he shows up in Earthrise?
Emerje
Small correction: the text says Fangtron, not Fanguron.
That does make more sense. They made that little line so short it looks like the smaller line on the U.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on August 4th, 2020 @ 6:36am CDT
I know he's popular, doesn't mean you have to charge scalper prices. He's cheaper on Amazon!
Emerje
Posted by o.supreme on August 4th, 2020 @ 1:36pm CDT
Leader UM has been released twice (retail and spoiler box 1)
Leader Shockwave has been released twice (retail and selects Galactic Man)
Astrotrain is a distant possibility, but literally he was in 2 shots in the final episode that very much looked like late additions just to say he was there. The text revealing Giza is accurate, however, this 2nd wave is specifically still supposed to be tied to Siege, so not sure how that works since Giza was not part of it. But then again neither were any of the other Battle Masters in the other packs from the 1st wave....
Posted by Munkky on August 4th, 2020 @ 2:25pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on August 4th, 2020 @ 3:03pm CDT
At the end of the series, Teletran was signaling an approaching spacecraft. Could that possibly be our Magnificence friend?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 4th, 2020 @ 4:07pm CDT
I thought it was the Nemesis. Then a space battle ensues and they both crash. And Earthrise begins.First-Aid wrote:So I had a random thought today while I opened a certain Autobot space shuttle.
At the end of the series, Teletran was signaling an approaching spacecraft. Could that possibly be our Magnificence friend?
Posted by First-Aid on August 4th, 2020 @ 4:14pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I thought it was the Nemesis. Then a space battle ensues and they both crash. And Earthrise begins.First-Aid wrote:So I had a random thought today while I opened a certain Autobot space shuttle.
At the end of the series, Teletran was signaling an approaching spacecraft. Could that possibly be our Magnificence friend?
Not sure on that. Megatron had no need to crew a craft because he was winning. The Autobots were retreating. It makes more sense that what they end up encountering is either Sky Lynx or an Earth-based spacecraft.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 4th, 2020 @ 4:24pm CDT
Going off some recently revealed Earthrise art, it could be a ship captained by Doubledealer.First-Aid wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I thought it was the Nemesis. Then a space battle ensues and they both crash. And Earthrise begins.First-Aid wrote:So I had a random thought today while I opened a certain Autobot space shuttle.
At the end of the series, Teletran was signaling an approaching spacecraft. Could that possibly be our Magnificence friend?
Not sure on that. Megatron had no need to crew a craft because he was winning. The Autobots were retreating. It makes more sense that what they end up encountering is either Sky Lynx or an Earth-based spacecraft.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 4th, 2020 @ 4:42pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Going off some recently revealed Earthrise art, it could be a ship captained by Doubledealer.First-Aid wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I thought it was the Nemesis. Then a space battle ensues and they both crash. And Earthrise begins.First-Aid wrote:So I had a random thought today while I opened a certain Autobot space shuttle.
At the end of the series, Teletran was signaling an approaching spacecraft. Could that possibly be our Magnificence friend?
Not sure on that. Megatron had no need to crew a craft because he was winning. The Autobots were retreating. It makes more sense that what they end up encountering is either Sky Lynx or an Earth-based spacecraft.
Or the Quintessons
Posted by Cobotron on August 4th, 2020 @ 5:39pm CDT
My first thought was this. And I still feel like that's the most logical answer. Warden explained (somewhere) that Earthrise was the story of their travel through space to get to Earth. (don't ask me to explain why they already have Earth modes. I don't know. Wolfman Jake said they were so excited for the Earth party, they picked out their 'fits early. ) But, I like the possibility of it being Sky Lynx too. Who could very well be the ally that leads them to Earth.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Going off some recently revealed Earthrise art, it could be a ship captained by Doubledealer.First-Aid wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I thought it was the Nemesis. Then a space battle ensues and they both crash. And Earthrise begins.First-Aid wrote:So I had a random thought today while I opened a certain Autobot space shuttle.
At the end of the series, Teletran was signaling an approaching spacecraft. Could that possibly be our Magnificence friend?
Not sure on that. Megatron had no need to crew a craft because he was winning. The Autobots were retreating. It makes more sense that what they end up encountering is either Sky Lynx or an Earth-based spacecraft.
Or the Quintessons
Plus, would the Nemesis be "unidentified" to Telatran 1? It's a pretty smart computer, well versed in all things Cybertronian.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 4th, 2020 @ 5:44pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on August 4th, 2020 @ 5:46pm CDT
Well sure, but couldn't the super computer also scan the inhabitants inside?ZeroWolf wrote:Depends on if the Nemesis is Cybertron made in this universe
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 4th, 2020 @ 5:53pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Well sure, but couldn't the super computer also scan the inhabitants inside?ZeroWolf wrote:Depends on if the Nemesis is Cybertron made in this universe
Depends on if they want to stay hidden
Probably the Quints though, I reckon they'll be a big enemy presence for the first part of Earthrise, just hope they aren't using the quint created the tf story line.
Posted by Cobotron on August 4th, 2020 @ 5:55pm CDT
Oh yeah, I hope not too.ZeroWolf wrote:Cobotron wrote:Well sure, but couldn't the super computer also scan the inhabitants inside?ZeroWolf wrote:Depends on if the Nemesis is Cybertron made in this universe
Depends on if they want to stay hidden
Probably the Quints though, I reckon they'll be a big enemy presence for the first part of Earthrise, just hope they aren't using the quint created the tf story line.
You know Z, they should really just hire you and I to write this stuff.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 4th, 2020 @ 6:00pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 4th, 2020 @ 7:05pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 4th, 2020 @ 7:09pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I was just wondering how the Decepticons would even get to Earth, but wasn't the point of Runamuck winning the fan poll to be that he somehow stowed away aboard the Ark? I wonder if that will play out, or if the idea will be dropped in favor of something else?
Given Doubledealer being part of the Earthrise range, I can see his faction gimmick coming into play for the story side of things. He may save them from the quints just to get closer to them.
I wonder what the possibility of that Cheetor Listing being meant for Netflix is?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 4th, 2020 @ 8:07pm CDT
Well, Part 3 of the story is Kingdom.ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder what the possibility of that Cheetor Listing being meant for Netflix is?
Posted by Deadput on August 4th, 2020 @ 8:17pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I was just wondering how the Decepticons would even get to Earth, but wasn't the point of Runamuck winning the fan poll to be that he somehow stowed away aboard the Ark? I wonder if that will play out, or if the idea will be dropped in favor of something else?
Maybe he snuck on board when the Decepticons attacked the Ark? If they go with the poll story thing.
Posted by Emerje on August 5th, 2020 @ 12:49am CDT
Andrew B. wrote:Emerje wrote:Andrew B. wrote:Emerje wrote:Andrew B. wrote:Emerje wrote:Andrew B. wrote:Emerje wrote:Andrew B. wrote:Good day!
Thank you for contacting Walmart.com
I appreciate you bringing this to our attention so that we can deal with this immediately
Upon checking your account, I found your items, and it appears to be stuck in processing. There are several reasons that this can occur including operational and system issues. At this point, we can actually attempt to cancel the item and you can reorder if you still want it. Please know that we do not wish this kind of issue to happen and we are committed to ensuring that we resolve them for you, I hope you understand. Would you like me to attempt to cancel your order? Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Andrew B.
Walmart.com Customer Care
Hi,
Please do not cancel the order. These are mostly sold out online and have been in stores long enough that they don't appear to be getting restocked anymore.
Thank you for your response.
I certainly understand you. As I checked online, the item is now available and can be added to cart. The reason why the order did no go through is due to system operational issues. However, we can cancel the order so you'll got your money release from your bank then you can place the order successfully. Please advise.
The order is for seven items, four of which are showing out of stock on walmart.com and one is being sold by Walmart for $20+ more than the original price. Just to be sure you're looking at order #********** right?
Upon checking, the price are still the same. Please check on this link https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /726299451?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff. Please advise.
You don't seem to understand the problem. Yes, that one item out of the seven items in the order is in stock, but four others are sold out and another has been priced way higher than than the normal price. If I cancel the order I'll only be able to order three of the seven items and I'll have to pay MORE to do it.
This item is out of stock: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /343836495?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
This item is out of stock: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /695839517?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
This item is out of stock: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /373662763?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
This item is out of stock: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /185227821?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
This item is priced by Walmart at $61.57 instead of the normal $39.99: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /100876059?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
I'm not asking for much, I just want the items that I pre-ordered and pre-paid for. Other people have received these items without paying ahead for them, my order should have been your number one priority before all else instead of jumping through hoops!
I certainly understand you. For the other items, they are currently out of stock from Walmart.com fulfillment center. In that case, we still need to cancel your order so you would get your money back, then once the manufacturer already provide us another stocks you can reorder the item and we will definitely adjust the price if ever it goes higher. We can only adjust the price if the item is sold and shipped by Walmart.com. Please advise.
It really doesn't sound like you're doing anything to fix the problem. Just telling me to cancel my order and re-order the ones that are in stock isn't exactly fixing the problem. It's hard to believe that the biggest retailer in the world can't make this right. I did everything right on my end, not only did I order these the day they were made available in February but I also paid for them up front. People that ordered these last week are getting them, and you're basically telling me "tough luck, maybe next time". Walmart screwed this up and Walmart should be solving the problem, even if it means sourcing them from seven different stores. It feels like there's no communication going on between you and whatever warehouse was supposed to fill this order to keep it from happening again.
If I cancel the order and and then order the 3 in stock items how will you adjust the price on the one that's showing up as $61.57 instead of $39.99 like it should? It says "sold and shipped by Walmart", yet that is definitely not the Walmart price. I can go on Amazon and get it from a scalper for less than that.
I certainly understand your concern. I assure you this will be escalated to the customer resolution team for further review. They have the necessary resources to provide or process anything regarding your concerns. You will receive a response from them promptly. Rest assured there will be an action for this. Thank you for understanding and have a great day!
Should you have questions and any other concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to assist you.
What a waste of time, they should have escalated it in the first place. I hope I don't have to go through this again in October!
Emerje
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 5th, 2020 @ 2:23am CDT
Deadput wrote:o.supreme wrote:I was just wondering how the Decepticons would even get to Earth, but wasn't the point of Runamuck winning the fan poll to be that he somehow stowed away aboard the Ark? I wonder if that will play out, or if the idea will be dropped in favor of something else?
Maybe he snuck on board when the Decepticons attacked the Ark? If they go with the poll story thing.
They didn't make much use out of the "Mirage convinces Impactor to join the Autobots" plotline from the Siege fan poll, though. SPOILERS: Mirage was there and juxtaposed with Impactor in some ways, but it was Ratchet who got him to change his attitude, though Impactor still didn't actually switch sides.