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Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Prime
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Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts Smash Changer Optimus Primal
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 19th, 2022 @ 9:03pm CST
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Posted by Sabrblade on November 19th, 2022 @ 10:29pm CST
Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 20th, 2022 @ 3:32am CST
Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"
Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.
You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08
Posted by Actar on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:11pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:17pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:39pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"
Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.
You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08
He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CST
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"
Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.
You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08
He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.
Now does this mean it can also be seen as him shielding everyone (even if inadvertently) from the abuse?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 20th, 2022 @ 2:53pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"
Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.
You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08
He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.
Now does this mean it can also be seen as him shielding everyone (even if inadvertently) from the abuse?
Nah, just as yet another example of people needing one single scapegoat to focus on because paying attention to the multiple(!), more obvious causes is so not done
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2022 @ 4:43pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:"What Was Michael Bay thinking when he made the original Transformers series?"
Bay did not make the movie designs. He was not the sole person in charge of everything.
You know everyone likes to blame him for everything despite their being many, many hands in the pot. The only major script decisions people can blame on him is Revenge of the Fallen since he finished the script due to the writers strike of 08
He's always been the face of those movies and he has chosen it to be that way. So I get why people keep blaming him for everything.
Now does this mean it can also be seen as him shielding everyone (even if inadvertently) from the abuse?
It's not intentional, but we know he doesn't mind getting the blame for it. He's beyond it all as is demonstrated with him still involved with the brand and films while not shying away from letting us know.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 20th, 2022 @ 5:06pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2022 @ 9:37am CST
There are a few newsworthy bits to take from this single picture. Firstly, the head sculpt features parts not seen on Bumblebee's head in the trailer, which include his antennas and side vents. So that means that either he had not finished transforming in the trailer, or that this face sculpt is based on an older character model.
Also, these being official renders means that their announcement is soon. Or at least, one would hope since we had renders of a new Hatchet and Hound figure for months and they are still not revealed. So we'll see.
Let us know what you think of this new toy and if you'd add it to your collection!
Posted by Overcracker on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:12am CST
BB, looks like they took Bumblebee Movie BB and mashed it up with 2007 Bay Movie BB and got this.
It looks fairly simple though.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:14am CST
BattletrapOvercracker wrote:Hatchet
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:29am CST
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:45am CST
Posted by 84everfan on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:50am CST
Posted by Overcracker on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:50am CST
Sabrblade wrote:BattletrapOvercracker wrote:Hatchet
Right, Battletrap/.
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:54am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Here’s more pics of Bee, showing his accessories and pics of alt mode, which has stripes on the roof that are not on the actual Camaro in the movie.
Oooo, that car mode looks great, I do wish the car mode had more black paint on it to break up all that yellow like the screen model. Maybe they might change the layout before release...unless we're gonna have to wait for a "Premium Finish" version!
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2022 @ 11:56am CST
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:02pm CST
Article from Screenrant officially revealing SS-99 Battletrap and SS-100 Bumblebee from ROTB!
I like that Bee is 100 since SS-01 is 2007 76 Camaro Bumblebee, we've come full circle!
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:55pm CST
With that, we still don't know who 94, 97, and 98 are for Hasbro's SS numbers.
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2022 @ 12:55pm CST
Here are some Amazon listings if you want more info:
Battletrap for 34.99: https://www.amazon.com/transformers-stu ... formers-20?tag=seibertron07-20&
Bumblebee for 24.99: https://www.amazon.com/transformers-tra ... formers-20?tag=seibertron07-20&
Posted by william-james88 on December 8th, 2022 @ 10:19am CST
Here are the upcoming Pops:
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Posted by william-james88 on December 11th, 2022 @ 1:01pm CST
Posted by TulioDude on December 11th, 2022 @ 1:26pm CST
Day 1076 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 3:16pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 11th, 2022 @ 5:11pm CST
transformers_va wrote:So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.
It's not children getting dumber, more like parents getting sue-happy whenever a child gets hurt by a toy.
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 5:21pm CST
Very true about the parents! Perhaps both are correct?Jelze Bunnycat wrote:It's not children getting dumber, more like parents getting sue-happy whenever a child gets hurt by a toy.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 11th, 2022 @ 5:29pm CST
transformers_va wrote:So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.
Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
Tonka trucks were made of diecast metal.
And earlier than that, children were given ACTUAL FIREARMS AND NUCLEAR KITS.
It was also the time were kids were allowed to play "dangerous games" like tag and Jungle Gym. Kids are not "dumber". We make them so.
Posted by First-Aid on December 11th, 2022 @ 7:20pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:transformers_va wrote:So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.
Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
Tonka trucks were made of diecast metal.
And earlier than that, children were given ACTUAL FIREARMS AND NUCLEAR KITS.
It was also the time were kids were allowed to play "dangerous games" like tag and Jungle Gym. Kids are not "dumber". We make them so.
Those were the good ol days. Anyone remember Woodburning kits? The superheated sharp object with a cord like 18 inches long? I LOVED our lawn darts, too. And chemistry sets! I tried so hard to make something that would blow up the house.....
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 7:33pm CST
Don't know about you, but at 5 years old, I had already figured out not to swallow toys.-Kanrabat- wrote:Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
Children in the US are still given actual firearms. Kinda sad a kid can have a real rifle, but not a G1 Megatron.-Kanrabat- wrote:And earlier than that, children were given ACTUAL FIREARMS AND NUCLEAR KITS.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:15pm CST
transformers_va wrote:Don't know about you, but at 5 years old, I had already figured out not to swallow toys.-Kanrabat- wrote:Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
Little People were meant for 2yo+. I was around 3 when I had that farm:
A kid can easily put one of those figure in it's mouth. I remember that I did. But swallowing it would take some serious skills.
Still, the modern toys are gigantic so they are not taking any chances.
Back to transformers, The G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line. However, children that are YOUNGER than that do exist. Also, G1 Transformers cost way less to make at the time than they cost today. Generations toys too are now VERY expensive.
So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young and are purposely CHEAP. Parents usually don't want to give super expensive toys to their kids when they know the thing will be broken/ignored in minutes.
That's all.
Posted by Emerje on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:29pm CST
transformers_va wrote:Don't know about you, but at 5 years old, I had already figured out not to swallow toys.-Kanrabat- wrote:Simply different norms.
Back in the day, you could swallow the Fisher Price Little People.
The number on the front of the box is just who Hasbro is selling to, it has nothing to do with safety. Look on the back (even on Generations figures) and you'll see the safety warnings and the UK 3 and under restriction.
Emerje
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:43pm CST
Posted by transformers_va on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:56pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line.
-Kanrabat- wrote:So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young...
So, very, VERY young is 6yo+? That makes no sense.
Posted by william-james88 on December 11th, 2022 @ 9:24pm CST
transformers_va wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line.-Kanrabat- wrote:So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young...
So, very, VERY young is 6yo+? That makes no sense.
I have some of these titan changers and 6 + makes sense. They are more complex than many G1 figures (definitely more conpkex than G1 Optimus)
However, I don't know why the 1 steps aren't 4+, any 4 year old can transform them, even 3 year old could.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 5:16am CST
transformers_va wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 were meant and are still good for kids that are 5yo+, like the current Generations line.-Kanrabat- wrote:So those cheap and "stupid" simple toys are meant for the very, VERY young...
So, very, VERY young is 6yo+? That makes no sense.
Must be corporate shenanigans because for many of these toys, I have the impression that they decide the "age" by throwing a dice.
Posted by RotorstormNZ on December 12th, 2022 @ 5:31am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 6:23am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 12th, 2022 @ 6:57am CST
These are our very first looks at not just the toys but also the characters, who were not highlighted in the first trailer. There were supposed leaks regarding these character designs and these toys support them with Nightbird's head looking like her G1 self and Wheeljack having a redesign from the Bumblebee movie design to have large glasses and no large "ears" (which could have been guessed from the back view we got from the trailer).
People have asked why this Wheeljack has more of that typical "nerd" look and this might be further proof that Michael Bay has a more hands on role, similar to the one he had in the Ninja Turtles movie, a movie where we know he dictated several looks. This looks very similar to Donatello from that film, where Michael Bay does like having obvious visual cues to reinforce a personality or trait. It's easier when handling a movie with a ton of characters, like this one where we have 3 main factions (and 2 lesser ones). These are just assumptions and may have no bearing, just like Michael Bay's involvement with this film does not dictate how good or bad this film will be.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 7:17am CST
Posted by Emerje on December 12th, 2022 @ 8:20am CST
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on December 12th, 2022 @ 8:43am CST
Emerje wrote:I don't like Wheeljack. They did a great job in the last movie with the G1 look, so why does he look like a stereotypical nerd now?
Emerje
Because Michael Bay has a more hands on role, similar to the one he had in the Ninja Turtles movie, a movie where we know he dictated several looks. This looks very similar to Donatello from that film, where Michael Bay does like having obvious visual cues to reinforce a personality or trait. It's easier when handling a movie with a ton of characters, like this one where we have 3 main factions (and 2 lesser ones).
The previous director, while coming from an animation background, did not need as much of Bay's involvement. He was used to animating action, hence why the fights looked so fluid, more so than any previous film, and the camera was often from the perspective of the Transformers rather than the humans (so higher than usual). This is just to give an idea as to why this film looks like there is more Bay involvement than before.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 9:22am CST
Emerje wrote:I don't like Wheeljack. They did a great job in the last movie with the G1 look, so why does he look like a stereotypical nerd now?
Emerje
He look like a nerd?
To me he nails the hippie look.
Posted by william-james88 on December 12th, 2022 @ 9:25am CST
transformers_va wrote:So, these pieces of junk are intended for ages 6+, yet original G1 toys (e.g. Optimus) were intended for ages 5+... when did children get dumber? If these were what were on offer when I was a child, I probably wouldn't be the same collector that I have been for 30 years now. Soon, Transformers will be no more than Go-Bots... so sad.
I don't understand this take. G1 Optimus was simpler than these toys (he has less transformation steps than what we see from the toys in these pictures). And his lack of articulation made him easier for the exact angle needed for a transformation step to be achieved. That's the same tactic Hasbro uses with rescue bots, which are good for even three year olds. I would even argue that it's because G1 was so simple that many people got into it, because it meant even dumb kids could transform them.
Most of G1 had odd proportions, didn't resemble the show, were simplistic in transformation, had very little articulation and some (like Optimus) even had partsforming. So if it made people who are still fans to this day, then there is no reason kids who are given these toys won't be fans for life.
Posted by Glyph on December 12th, 2022 @ 9:34am CST
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on December 12th, 2022 @ 9:35am CST
Posted by First-Aid on December 12th, 2022 @ 9:43am CST
Mr.MicroMaster wrote:Wheeljack face is literally nerd face emoji. Other than the face the toy looks pretty good.
I expect the Autobots to ask him why he looks so off from previous, and for him to say that "I just was experimenting with something different." That seems like a Wheeljack-y thing to do and could explain why he looks different. The bots can alter their structure to create weapons and such, why not the ability to alter their facial appearance.