Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys
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Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys
This is the line that saw the advancements in articulation and complexity of the Beast Era and went "na, were good, lets go back to late G1 articulation with poor proportions and obtrusive gimmicks". And then the same thing happened again 15 years later for the Cyberverse line. You see, Transformers are cyclical that way. But it's not to say there isn't a lot to love in Armada and this list will go through some toys that I feel anyone should have in their collection as a keepsake of this era. Plus with all the hubub over the new Unicron, it was fun to revisit the line that gave us our first Unicron toy.
5. Transformers Armada Demolishor (Iron Hide)
I like this toy all around. The mobile missile launcher alt mode looks good and works well. I especially like how the robot fingers double as rocket launchers. The minicon integration is also nice as it fills in the alt mode. And we get a very original looking robot mode out of it with a cool headsculpt.
4. Transformers Armada Sideways (Double Face)
Ths toy is all about the playability aspect. It incorporated the duality gimmick of previous Transformers, like Punch/Counterpunch and the headmaster gimmick by combining both into one. Like that Sideways gets a different head depending on his allegiance. He also happens to have a nice looking bot mode and a great looking motorcycle which the headmaster unit can ride.
3. Transformers Armada Megatron
Speaking of playability, the Megatron in this line was like his own playset with lots of action features and ports for minicons, including ramps, trap doors and hidden areas. Plus he has a hidden blade/shiv if ever he has to get extra nasty. Of course he isn't without firepower with a fun himage to the G1 ty by having a massive cannon under his arm pit. I love the facesculpt too with the giant horns that act as shears in tank mode, just to add to its ferocity.
2. Transformers Armada Tidal Wave (Shockwave)
Armada was all about the gimmicks and while some did not turn out great, they really knocked it out of the park with this one. This toy is one for the ages with three seperate vehicles, all with their own individual gimmicks (like a fold out seating area, or an elevator) that combine into a massive ship which then transforms into a giant robot. I really love all about this toy and I feel any fan is missing out by not experiencing this mold. There is nothing else wuite like it out there.
1. Transformers Armada Unicron
I think everyone saw it coming. With Tidal Wave at number 2, the only bot that could beat it would be none other than Unicron. Unicron at the time was a dream come true. Not only was it a great representation for the main villain of the Armada series but it was finally a transforming toy of the villain from the 86 film, which may fans longed for. I love how it serves this dual purpose. I think what I find smartest of all in its design is the rings the turn into the wings. I am really impressed at how they did manage to give us a planet-like alt mode and a well proportioned bot even if there is some shellforming involved. Due to its popularity, this mold keeps being released over and over so anyone wanting it can get it with ease.
Honouable Mentions:
Destruction Mini-Con Team
A big part of Armada were the minicons and the special ports can still be found on certain toys released a decade later. The mincons I liked best were the ones that had an extra action gimmick. They were already simpler toys with odd proportions so adding an action feature didn't hinder anything that wasn't there already. And of those, I liked the Destruction Mini-Con Team best due to the irony of these massive alt modes being rserved to tiny bots. I mean you have a Gepard anti-aircraft tank, a tunneling machine and a kreaken bucket-wheel excavator. The bucket-wheel spins and so does the drill. Plus, the bucket-wheel excavator can be attached under Armada Cyclonus and interact with its gear-wheel rotor system.
Transformers Armada Drill Bit (Crash) Gallery
Transformers Armada Buzzsaw (Wheel) Gallery
Transformers Armada Dualor (Duster) Gallery
Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys
This is the line that saw the advancements in articulation and complexity of the Beast Era and went "na, were good, lets go back to late G1 articulation with poor proportions and obtrusive gimmicks". And then the same thing happened again 15 years later for the Cyberverse line. You see, Transformers are cyclical that way. But it's not to say there isn't a lot to love in Armada and this list will go through some toys that I feel anyone should have in their collection as a keepsake of this era. Plus with all the hubub over the new Unicron, it was fun to revisit the line that gave us our first Unicron toy.
5. Transformers Armada Demolishor (Iron Hide)
I like this toy all around. The mobile missile launcher alt mode looks good and works well. I especially like how the robot fingers double as rocket launchers. The minicon integration is also nice as it fills in the alt mode. And we get a very original looking robot mode out of it with a cool headsculpt.
4. Transformers Armada Sideways (Double Face)
Ths toy is all about the playability aspect. It incorporated the duality gimmick of previous Transformers, like Punch/Counterpunch and the headmaster gimmick by combining both into one. Like that Sideways gets a different head depending on his allegiance. He also happens to have a nice looking bot mode and a great looking motorcycle which the headmaster unit can ride.
3. Transformers Armada Megatron
Speaking of playability, the Megatron in this line was like his own playset with lots of action features and ports for minicons, including ramps, trap doors and hidden areas. Plus he has a hidden blade/shiv if ever he has to get extra nasty. Of course he isn't without firepower with a fun himage to the G1 ty by having a massive cannon under his arm pit. I love the facesculpt too with the giant horns that act as shears in tank mode, just to add to its ferocity.
2. Transformers Armada Tidal Wave (Shockwave)
Armada was all about the gimmicks and while some did not turn out great, they really knocked it out of the park with this one. This toy is one for the ages with three seperate vehicles, all with their own individual gimmicks (like a fold out seating area, or an elevator) that combine into a massive ship which then transforms into a giant robot. I really love all about this toy and I feel any fan is missing out by not experiencing this mold. There is nothing else wuite like it out there.
1. Transformers Armada Unicron
I think everyone saw it coming. With Tidal Wave at number 2, the only bot that could beat it would be none other than Unicron. Unicron at the time was a dream come true. Not only was it a great representation for the main villain of the Armada series but it was finally a transforming toy of the villain from the 86 film, which may fans longed for. I love how it serves this dual purpose. I think what I find smartest of all in its design is the rings the turn into the wings. I am really impressed at how they did manage to give us a planet-like alt mode and a well proportioned bot even if there is some shellforming involved. Due to its popularity, this mold keeps being released over and over so anyone wanting it can get it with ease.
Honouable Mentions:
Destruction Mini-Con Team
A big part of Armada were the minicons and the special ports can still be found on certain toys released a decade later. The mincons I liked best were the ones that had an extra action gimmick. They were already simpler toys with odd proportions so adding an action feature didn't hinder anything that wasn't there already. And of those, I liked the Destruction Mini-Con Team best due to the irony of these massive alt modes being rserved to tiny bots. I mean you have a Gepard anti-aircraft tank, a tunneling machine and a kreaken bucket-wheel excavator. The bucket-wheel spins and so does the drill. Plus, the bucket-wheel excavator can be attached under Armada Cyclonus and interact with its gear-wheel rotor system.
Transformers Armada Drill Bit (Crash) Gallery
Transformers Armada Buzzsaw (Wheel) Gallery
Transformers Armada Dualor (Duster) Gallery
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Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033972)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2019 @ 11:25pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2019 @ 11:25pm CDT
Was honestly expecting to see either A) Unicron excluded since he's the obvious automatic #1, or B) Jetfire somewhere on this list.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033974)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 9th, 2019 @ 11:45pm CDT
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 9th, 2019 @ 11:45pm CDT
Wow, this is the first list where I own a version of all these molds.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033975)
Posted by Stargrave on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:02am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:02am CDT
Wow, I can still remember Demolishor being one of the first I saw I stores along with Cyclonus.
I still to this day regret my own stubbornness for not embracing the line more because I missed out
On Tidal Wave and Megatron and I think of those as staples of this series. And Sideways is always around our house to this day I mean a poseable double headmaster on a motorcycle, uh, so rad? Yes?
I love these - great list thank you sir!
I still to this day regret my own stubbornness for not embracing the line more because I missed out
On Tidal Wave and Megatron and I think of those as staples of this series. And Sideways is always around our house to this day I mean a poseable double headmaster on a motorcycle, uh, so rad? Yes?
I love these - great list thank you sir!
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033976)
Posted by Optimutt on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:10am CDT
Posted by Optimutt on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:10am CDT
Excellent list!
Overall, Armada was a disappointment. After getting cars/vehicles again in RiD 2001, I was so looking forward to something amazing. The lack of articulation of many bots, the funky proportions, and... let's face it... the cartoon - all of these contributed to a by-and-large dislike of the line.
That said, I really did enjoy the Minicons. The street patrol, with Highwire, Grindor, and Sureshock, especially got me in all the right ways.
And then came Unicron. Damn. So deserving of that Number 1 spot. I had the original Armada one, but traded him in for the version in that excellent G1 movie recreation - the Hasbro Movie version. It really is an amazing toy that is overflowing with gimmicks, details, and bonus electronics.
Great list.
Overall, Armada was a disappointment. After getting cars/vehicles again in RiD 2001, I was so looking forward to something amazing. The lack of articulation of many bots, the funky proportions, and... let's face it... the cartoon - all of these contributed to a by-and-large dislike of the line.
That said, I really did enjoy the Minicons. The street patrol, with Highwire, Grindor, and Sureshock, especially got me in all the right ways.
And then came Unicron. Damn. So deserving of that Number 1 spot. I had the original Armada one, but traded him in for the version in that excellent G1 movie recreation - the Hasbro Movie version. It really is an amazing toy that is overflowing with gimmicks, details, and bonus electronics.
Great list.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033981)
Posted by bacem on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:33am CDT
Posted by bacem on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:33am CDT
while i don't disagree with this list, i feel like the deluxe optimus prime (bendy) deserve a spot there, maybe replacing demolishor, and starscream replacing sideways, or gets honorable mention, at least.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033984)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:48am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:48am CDT
Eh, I didn't think Sideways was all that. He's definitely not top 5. Mine:
5. Demolishor
4. Cyclonus
3. Unicron
2. Jetfire
1. Tidal Wave
Honorable mention: deluxe Optimus Prime
5. Demolishor
4. Cyclonus
3. Unicron
2. Jetfire
1. Tidal Wave
Honorable mention: deluxe Optimus Prime
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033986)
Posted by Madeus Prime on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:55am CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:55am CDT
I am a bit disappointed by the lack of bendy Prime on this list 
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033988)
Posted by leokearon on August 10th, 2019 @ 1:49am CDT
Posted by leokearon on August 10th, 2019 @ 1:49am CDT
Sad that Wheeljack didn't get on the list.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033993)
Posted by Rainmaker on August 10th, 2019 @ 3:45am CDT
Posted by Rainmaker on August 10th, 2019 @ 3:45am CDT
Is this the first list where the figure in the thumbnail is actually on the list?
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033997)
Posted by Windsweeper on August 10th, 2019 @ 5:20am CDT
Posted by Windsweeper on August 10th, 2019 @ 5:20am CDT
Interesting article as always though I have to respectfully disagree. Starscream/Thundercracker should definitely be on this list, same for Bendy Prime and Hoist.
Starscream still holds up today. His only flaw is not being able to turn his head. The Armada and Cybertron Seekers nicely bulk up the ranks of the Siege Seekers.
Starscream still holds up today. His only flaw is not being able to turn his head. The Armada and Cybertron Seekers nicely bulk up the ranks of the Siege Seekers.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2033998)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 10th, 2019 @ 6:01am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on August 10th, 2019 @ 6:01am CDT
Excellent list! Armada is such an underrated line- sure, the toys aren't the most poseable but the actual robot designs are universally great (even if they didn't transfer that well to plastic) and a lot of them are really fun. Also great to see Demolishor getting some love, a decent Generations update for him is something I still want.
I'm in wholehearted agreement with the list, but a few honourable mentions for me at least would be:
>"Bendy" Prime, whose poseablity is still top shelf to this day.
>Jetfire, who in spite of his intrusive (but awesome) gimmick still managed to be a really, really cool looking robot with an awesome shuttle mode with some great play features.
>Starscream, just for that smirk- THE best Starscream headsculpt in history IMO.
I'm in wholehearted agreement with the list, but a few honourable mentions for me at least would be:
>"Bendy" Prime, whose poseablity is still top shelf to this day.
>Jetfire, who in spite of his intrusive (but awesome) gimmick still managed to be a really, really cool looking robot with an awesome shuttle mode with some great play features.
>Starscream, just for that smirk- THE best Starscream headsculpt in history IMO.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034001)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 10th, 2019 @ 6:40am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 10th, 2019 @ 6:40am CDT
Here's a list that I can get behind at 100%. I'm surprised Demolishor made the list. For me, he's a great character in the show and his toy, despite being cheap and common, simply rock and is a lot of fun. I thought I was the only one to like it.
The only ones that can be interchangeable in the list are Sideways and Megatron. Both are super fun and great looking equally.
Tidal Wave. Man, this toy is awesome. His only glaring flaw are some articulation points missing that they could have implemented. But other than that, he's awesome.
As for Unicron, he's so perfect! I don't really care that his planet mode is not perfectly round. He's still incredible and the Amazon version is good enough for being the "G1" version. Anyone lucky enough to have the Throne of Chaos to go with the planet mode? I ordered and got mine just in time way back then.
The only ones that can be interchangeable in the list are Sideways and Megatron. Both are super fun and great looking equally.
Tidal Wave. Man, this toy is awesome. His only glaring flaw are some articulation points missing that they could have implemented. But other than that, he's awesome.
As for Unicron, he's so perfect! I don't really care that his planet mode is not perfectly round. He's still incredible and the Amazon version is good enough for being the "G1" version. Anyone lucky enough to have the Throne of Chaos to go with the planet mode? I ordered and got mine just in time way back then.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034016)
Posted by YRQRM0 on August 10th, 2019 @ 9:33am CDT
Posted by YRQRM0 on August 10th, 2019 @ 9:33am CDT
Oh man, great picks but there's a lot missing in the shout-outs. Both bendy Prime and Leader Prime are great - Leader because his base mode is so much fun to set up and put mini-cons all over.
I would have had Jetfire on there, too. He's one of the more poseable ones and his vehicle mode is super solid (and the hatch on top is fun), plus he manages to become a decent pair of legs for Prime.
Finally, I would have mentioned more mini-cons, particularly the requiem blaster, and the set that turns into individual weapons (the police car that turns into a gun is one of my all-time favorite).
I would have had Jetfire on there, too. He's one of the more poseable ones and his vehicle mode is super solid (and the hatch on top is fun), plus he manages to become a decent pair of legs for Prime.
Finally, I would have mentioned more mini-cons, particularly the requiem blaster, and the set that turns into individual weapons (the police car that turns into a gun is one of my all-time favorite).
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034017)
Posted by Vic Zanzibar on August 10th, 2019 @ 9:37am CDT
Posted by Vic Zanzibar on August 10th, 2019 @ 9:37am CDT
Unicron seems so ahead of his time. With engineering that well executed, he feels like he should have actually released a few years later in Cybertron or Classics. I’m gonna echo some others here and shout out the Hoist mold. Good size, surprisingly well-articulated, and a well-integrated gimmick. I have the Universe Ransack repaint as well as possibly my favorite obscure homage ever; Cybertron Longrack. What a perfect use of the mold.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034018)
Posted by ScottyP on August 10th, 2019 @ 9:43am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on August 10th, 2019 @ 9:43am CDT
Bendy Prime is probably the best Deluxe in the line. Sideways is ambitious and Rook/Crosswise are fun but the execution of the bot mode leaves a little to be desired.bacem wrote:while i don't disagree with this list, i feel like the deluxe optimus prime (bendy) deserve a spot there, maybe replacing demolishor, and starscream replacing sideways, or gets honorable mention, at least.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034024)
Posted by Stargrave on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:02pm CDT
Help me out gang was bendy Prime the deluxe that came out later? Now that couldn’t combine with the trailer but had added articulation right? And it came with that Leader-1-ish Minicon I think. And then I think that was the one that got reused several times after like repaints and Nemesis versions. Am I thinking of the right bot?
Posted by Stargrave on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:02pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Bendy Prime is probably the best Deluxe in the line. Sideways is ambitious and Rook/Crosswise are fun but the execution of the bot mode leaves a little to be desired.bacem wrote:while i don't disagree with this list, i feel like the deluxe optimus prime (bendy) deserve a spot there, maybe replacing demolishor, and starscream replacing sideways, or gets honorable mention, at least.
Help me out gang was bendy Prime the deluxe that came out later? Now that couldn’t combine with the trailer but had added articulation right? And it came with that Leader-1-ish Minicon I think. And then I think that was the one that got reused several times after like repaints and Nemesis versions. Am I thinking of the right bot?
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034032)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:31pm CDT
Yup. That's the one. He was also remolded for the Cybertron line, the minicon gimmick replaced with a cyber key.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 10th, 2019 @ 12:31pm CDT
Stargrave wrote:ScottyP wrote:Bendy Prime is probably the best Deluxe in the line. Sideways is ambitious and Rook/Crosswise are fun but the execution of the bot mode leaves a little to be desired.bacem wrote:while i don't disagree with this list, i feel like the deluxe optimus prime (bendy) deserve a spot there, maybe replacing demolishor, and starscream replacing sideways, or gets honorable mention, at least.
Help me out gang was bendy Prime the deluxe that came out later? Now that couldn’t combine with the trailer but had added articulation right? And it came with that Leader-1-ish Minicon I think. And then I think that was the one that got reused several times after like repaints and Nemesis versions. Am I thinking of the right bot?
Yup. That's the one. He was also remolded for the Cybertron line, the minicon gimmick replaced with a cyber key.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034037)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 10th, 2019 @ 1:53pm CDT
Not quite on the retooling bit. The toy itself was unaltered, but the key had a Mini-Con port added. Same with the Demolishor re-release.
Transformers Cybertron Optimus Prime Gallery
The toys that did have the gimmick retooled were Blurr, Hoist, Side Swipe and Cyclonus, into Blurr, Longrack, Runabout/Runamuck and Buzzsaw.
That should say something about those molds, right? 
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 10th, 2019 @ 1:53pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Stargrave wrote:ScottyP wrote:Bendy Prime is probably the best Deluxe in the line. Sideways is ambitious and Rook/Crosswise are fun but the execution of the bot mode leaves a little to be desired.bacem wrote:while i don't disagree with this list, i feel like the deluxe optimus prime (bendy) deserve a spot there, maybe replacing demolishor, and starscream replacing sideways, or gets honorable mention, at least.
Help me out gang was bendy Prime the deluxe that came out later? Now that couldn’t combine with the trailer but had added articulation right? And it came with that Leader-1-ish Minicon I think. And then I think that was the one that got reused several times after like repaints and Nemesis versions. Am I thinking of the right bot?
Yup. That's the one. He was also remolded for the Cybertron line, the minicon gimmick replaced with a cyber key.
Not quite on the retooling bit. The toy itself was unaltered, but the key had a Mini-Con port added. Same with the Demolishor re-release.
Transformers Cybertron Optimus Prime Gallery
The toys that did have the gimmick retooled were Blurr, Hoist, Side Swipe and Cyclonus, into Blurr, Longrack, Runabout/Runamuck and Buzzsaw.
That should say something about those molds, right?
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034040)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2019 @ 2:04pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2019 @ 2:04pm CDT
Not to mention that those four retools were Takara initiatives while the Optimus and Demolishor redecos were Hasbro initiatives.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The toys that did have the gimmick retooled were Blurr, Hoist, Side Swipe and Cyclonus, into Blurr, Longrack, Runabout/Runamuck and Buzzsaw.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034042)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 10th, 2019 @ 2:11pm CDT
Last-minute additions I should say. Too bad their Mini-Cons weren't redecoed, unlike the Takara 4 that ended up in Micron Boosters. I still need one for my "Roller"
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 10th, 2019 @ 2:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that those four retools were Takara initiatives while the Optimus and Demolishor redecos were Hasbro initiatives.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The toys that did have the gimmick retooled were Blurr, Hoist, Side Swipe and Cyclonus, into Blurr, Longrack, Runabout/Runamuck and Buzzsaw.
Last-minute additions I should say. Too bad their Mini-Cons weren't redecoed, unlike the Takara 4 that ended up in Micron Boosters. I still need one for my "Roller"
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034045)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on August 10th, 2019 @ 2:50pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on August 10th, 2019 @ 2:50pm CDT
I would've replaced Demolisher with Hoist. Other than that, great list. And yes, Unicron had to be number one. 
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034048)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 10th, 2019 @ 3:54pm CDT
I also don't get why the Armada Unicron mold is so loved. It doesn't even form a whole planet, and in robot mode he's top-heavy and his feet are too big. I do have the G1 25th anniversary version, but I'm not head over heels about it. I do like that he has individual articulated fingers.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 10th, 2019 @ 3:54pm CDT
So you don't consider his entire back sticking straight out in robot mode (and making him ungainly and top-heavy) a flaw? If it wasn't for that, he'd be#1 on my list. But that's a very bad design flaw, especially when a single hinge could have fixed it.Windsweeper wrote:Starscream still holds up today. His only flaw is not being able to turn his head.
I also don't get why the Armada Unicron mold is so loved. It doesn't even form a whole planet, and in robot mode he's top-heavy and his feet are too big. I do have the G1 25th anniversary version, but I'm not head over heels about it. I do like that he has individual articulated fingers.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034069)
Posted by TulioDude on August 10th, 2019 @ 11:31pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on August 10th, 2019 @ 11:31pm CDT
Nice list!
If we're talking playability,then the Bigger Optimus wins.Robot,truck,self-transforming trailer and super mode.All of them looking good!
If we're talking playability,then the Bigger Optimus wins.Robot,truck,self-transforming trailer and super mode.All of them looking good!
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034071)
Posted by Stargrave on August 10th, 2019 @ 11:58pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 10th, 2019 @ 11:58pm CDT
Remote controlled pants wins every time.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034096)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 11th, 2019 @ 8:44am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 11th, 2019 @ 8:44am CDT
A great list! And I never knew that demolishers minicon could fit like that in alt mode! Not suprised by 1# but unicron is an awesome toy so I don't mind (though I prefer the sleeker Energon redeco)
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034099)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 11th, 2019 @ 9:34am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 11th, 2019 @ 9:34am CDT
Not unless the gimmick never worked. Always had to do it manually.Stargrave wrote:Remote controlled pants wins every time.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034102)
Posted by william-james88 on August 11th, 2019 @ 10:19am CDT
Excluding him wouldn't be fair to myself or to you guys and it would turn the entire discussion into whether or not that was the right thing to do instead of just discussing the toys we love. And yeah, Jetfire is a contender for best armada toys for sure, but this is how the top 5 ended up for me personally.
Firstly, thanks for your kind words (yours and everyone's, it's always appreciated). While I do agree that Starscream is one of the predominant characters that come to mind when thinking of Armada, his toy is not something I would personally recomend over the others. I really don't like how the cockpit is not lined up with the rest of the body and how his arms end up rather blatantly there as nubs in alt mode. Plus, I don't feel the ingenuity of the fold out wingsword makes up for how both the weapon and robot ends up looking, now with one less wing.
Hoist is cool but I was more impressed with the longrack homage it got later, and thats not part of this line. As for Bendy Prime, he's fine but I thought Demolishor was a much more interesting deluxe, especially with the minicon interaction, which this whole series is about. He's also a new character with a cool design and alt mode. I love those missile fingers too, its very diaclone-like.
I think most of us are saying the same thing though, bendy prime is good but more worthy of a mention than actually being on the list. I just didnt want the mentions to be too long and preferred highlighting some minicons since I didnt want the main gimmick of the line to go unmentioned. In the end, the comments always serve as an extension to the list.
And yeah, that police car minicon is pretty awesome!
Posted by william-james88 on August 11th, 2019 @ 10:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Was honestly expecting to see either A) Unicron excluded since he's the obvious automatic #1, or B) Jetfire somewhere on this list.
Excluding him wouldn't be fair to myself or to you guys and it would turn the entire discussion into whether or not that was the right thing to do instead of just discussing the toys we love. And yeah, Jetfire is a contender for best armada toys for sure, but this is how the top 5 ended up for me personally.
Windsweeper wrote:Interesting article as always though I have to respectfully disagree. Starscream/Thundercracker should definitely be on this list, same for Bendy Prime and Hoist.
Starscream still holds up today. His only flaw is not being able to turn his head. The Armada and Cybertron Seekers nicely bulk up the ranks of the Siege Seekers.
Firstly, thanks for your kind words (yours and everyone's, it's always appreciated). While I do agree that Starscream is one of the predominant characters that come to mind when thinking of Armada, his toy is not something I would personally recomend over the others. I really don't like how the cockpit is not lined up with the rest of the body and how his arms end up rather blatantly there as nubs in alt mode. Plus, I don't feel the ingenuity of the fold out wingsword makes up for how both the weapon and robot ends up looking, now with one less wing.
Hoist is cool but I was more impressed with the longrack homage it got later, and thats not part of this line. As for Bendy Prime, he's fine but I thought Demolishor was a much more interesting deluxe, especially with the minicon interaction, which this whole series is about. He's also a new character with a cool design and alt mode. I love those missile fingers too, its very diaclone-like.
YRQRM0 wrote:Oh man, great picks but there's a lot missing in the shout-outs. Both bendy Prime and Leader Prime are great - Leader because his base mode is so much fun to set up and put mini-cons all over.
I think most of us are saying the same thing though, bendy prime is good but more worthy of a mention than actually being on the list. I just didnt want the mentions to be too long and preferred highlighting some minicons since I didnt want the main gimmick of the line to go unmentioned. In the end, the comments always serve as an extension to the list.
And yeah, that police car minicon is pretty awesome!
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034173)
Posted by Ebonsaber on August 12th, 2019 @ 12:54am CDT
Posted by Ebonsaber on August 12th, 2019 @ 12:54am CDT
I'd lean more to Rollout(Overload) for the minicon honorable mention for being a Headmaster and a Targetmaster, plus has both a minicon port(trailer hitch/weapon handle) and a socket...
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034198)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 12th, 2019 @ 10:08am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 12th, 2019 @ 10:08am CDT
A solid list, I'd agree with based on the reasons given. It is funny when I briefly browsed the Wiki, the only two figures I liked and recall owning from the Unicron Trilogy, came from Energon. As such I have no horse in this race.
That said, scrolling through the comments, not every list needs a Prime... Just saying
That said, scrolling through the comments, not every list needs a Prime... Just saying
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Posted by Stargrave on August 12th, 2019 @ 11:24am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 12th, 2019 @ 11:24am CDT
It’s like a Joker in the deck. Wild card. You could just as well say hey here’s my top five but because A-B-or C is always great and a given I’ll exclude them from the list. I usually do that in my mental lists.
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Posted by william-james88 on August 12th, 2019 @ 2:05pm CDT
I tend to crap on Energon as much as the next fan, but in reality its just because there is a whole subsegment of that line that just hasn’t aged well and just isn’t very good. But there are still amazing toys from that line and I look forward to writing that list. Just curious though, what are those two toys. And haha about OP. I just felt there were better toys that encompassed what Armada brought to the table. And I think most agree, since the discussion is more about Optimus being mentioned rather than him actually being on the list. If the one squabbles are over the honourable mentions, then I think it’s a good indication that the list itself is solid.
Also, just so people know, my honourable mentions are really the most subjective part of all my lists. It’s where I write about a toy that I would want to write about but that wouldn’t make the list. It’s not necessarily 6th, it’s just a toy I want to talk about, hence why it’s just a mention. I didn’t really have anything to say about Optimus.
I make it a point to be true to myself with these lists, so I don’t exclude anyone. I don’t feel it would be fair to that toy. Hence why I have no trouble including MPs in lists and them turning out on top if they are the best. It makes it extra special when they aren’t number 1, as is the case with Shockwave, Hot Rod and Movie Optimus.
Though I am still unsure how to handle RID 2001 and that Optimus Primal figure.
Posted by william-james88 on August 12th, 2019 @ 2:05pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A solid list, I'd agree with based on the reasons given. It is funny when I briefly browsed the Wiki, the only two figures I liked and recall owning from the Unicron Trilogy, came from Energon. As such I have no horse in this race.
That said, scrolling through the comments, not every list needs a Prime... Just saying
I tend to crap on Energon as much as the next fan, but in reality its just because there is a whole subsegment of that line that just hasn’t aged well and just isn’t very good. But there are still amazing toys from that line and I look forward to writing that list. Just curious though, what are those two toys. And haha about OP. I just felt there were better toys that encompassed what Armada brought to the table. And I think most agree, since the discussion is more about Optimus being mentioned rather than him actually being on the list. If the one squabbles are over the honourable mentions, then I think it’s a good indication that the list itself is solid.
Also, just so people know, my honourable mentions are really the most subjective part of all my lists. It’s where I write about a toy that I would want to write about but that wouldn’t make the list. It’s not necessarily 6th, it’s just a toy I want to talk about, hence why it’s just a mention. I didn’t really have anything to say about Optimus.
Stargrave wrote:It’s like a Joker in the deck. Wild card. You could just as well say hey here’s my top five but because A-B-or C is always great and a given I’ll exclude them from the list. I usually do that in my mental lists.
I make it a point to be true to myself with these lists, so I don’t exclude anyone. I don’t feel it would be fair to that toy. Hence why I have no trouble including MPs in lists and them turning out on top if they are the best. It makes it extra special when they aren’t number 1, as is the case with Shockwave, Hot Rod and Movie Optimus.
Though I am still unsure how to handle RID 2001 and that Optimus Primal figure.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 12th, 2019 @ 2:20pm CDT
^ This guy. I've mentioned a few times before. I bought him as soon as I saw him, back in the day and there is something about him I absolutely adore. Probably my favourite design for Ultra Magnus. I also had no idea he was a redeco previously either. Frankly I don't care as this colour palette is a lot more visually interesting.
^ The Bot Mode hooked me from first sight. Weird that his alt mode pays more homage to Overlord and Thunderwing than his namesake, in retrospect. Meanwhile, his Bot Mode design is was the update to Galvatron, I had patiently been waiting on, for nearly 20 years at that point.
My interest in the UT was minimal. While the PS2 game is arguably still the greatest singular Transformers game ever made. The cartoon largely completely soured me on collecting the toyline.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 12th, 2019 @ 2:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A solid list, I'd agree with based on the reasons given. It is funny when I briefly browsed the Wiki, the only two figures I liked and recall owning from the Unicron Trilogy, came from Energon. As such I have no horse in this race.
That said, scrolling through the comments, not every list needs a Prime... Just saying
I tend to crap on Energon as much as the next fan, but in reality its just because there is a whole subsegment of that line that just hasn’t aged well and just isn’t very good. But there are still amazing toys from that line and I look forward to writing that list. Just curious though, what are those two toys.
^ This guy. I've mentioned a few times before. I bought him as soon as I saw him, back in the day and there is something about him I absolutely adore. Probably my favourite design for Ultra Magnus. I also had no idea he was a redeco previously either. Frankly I don't care as this colour palette is a lot more visually interesting.
^ The Bot Mode hooked me from first sight. Weird that his alt mode pays more homage to Overlord and Thunderwing than his namesake, in retrospect. Meanwhile, his Bot Mode design is was the update to Galvatron, I had patiently been waiting on, for nearly 20 years at that point.
My interest in the UT was minimal. While the PS2 game is arguably still the greatest singular Transformers game ever made. The cartoon largely completely soured me on collecting the toyline.
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Posted by YRQRM0 on August 13th, 2019 @ 10:52am CDT
That was how he looked in the show. Also, if you are popping out the backs of his feet properly (took me a while to realize you could do that), he doesn't have a problem standing up straight at all. Like Cybertron mudflap, he's surprisingly sturdy imo.
Unicron also did look that way in the show at least, and his feet were huge in G1 too. The feet on the upcoming Haslab one are also gigantic, it's just part of his design I think.
Posted by YRQRM0 on August 13th, 2019 @ 10:52am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:So you don't consider his entire back sticking straight out in robot mode (and making him ungainly and top-heavy) a flaw? If it wasn't for that, he'd be#1 on my list. But that's a very bad design flaw, especially when a single hinge could have fixed it.Windsweeper wrote:Starscream still holds up today. His only flaw is not being able to turn his head.
I also don't get why the Armada Unicron mold is so loved. It doesn't even form a whole planet, and in robot mode he's top-heavy and his feet are too big. I do have the G1 25th anniversary version, but I'm not head over heels about it. I do like that he has individual articulated fingers.
That was how he looked in the show. Also, if you are popping out the backs of his feet properly (took me a while to realize you could do that), he doesn't have a problem standing up straight at all. Like Cybertron mudflap, he's surprisingly sturdy imo.
Unicron also did look that way in the show at least, and his feet were huge in G1 too. The feet on the upcoming Haslab one are also gigantic, it's just part of his design I think.
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Posted by Optimum Supreme on August 14th, 2019 @ 4:29pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on August 14th, 2019 @ 4:29pm CDT
No bendy OP? 
Demolisher was the first Armada toy I got, and it pretty much soured me on the whole line for a while. I just did not like him with his goofy hands and stuff.
Sideways, I feel was a great idea but with mediocre execution. I like the rider turing into double headmasters and working as a faction changer, and he seemed cool as hell on the show, but the toy just didn't quite live up to expectations.
Never had a Megatron, but had a Galvatron of that mold, and just thought it was okay.
Tidal Wave, now there was a great Armada toy. Hopefully he's being kept in mind as a future remake candidate for Commander class.
Unicron, hey, I was waiting for that toy since seeing the movie opening day in 86, and while there were some flaws, overall it delivered. And at an affordable price! Sure, all else equal I'd certainly prefer a HasLab version, but the Armada toy made me quite happy to have back when it came out.
Jetfire (well powerlinx or whatever they called the redecoed versions in Armada) I mainly got to make pants for the big version of OP. On his own, he was another okay one, but nothing too must have. I have to say Jetfire/OP/Energon UM make a formidable hunk of robots when combined.
Wheeljack, the name was wrong, but most of the rest was pretty cool. Not quite a faction changer, but with molded symbols for both factions and the bot symbol scratched out, it was close enough to count for me (I like faction changers, I guess
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Demolisher was the first Armada toy I got, and it pretty much soured me on the whole line for a while. I just did not like him with his goofy hands and stuff.
Sideways, I feel was a great idea but with mediocre execution. I like the rider turing into double headmasters and working as a faction changer, and he seemed cool as hell on the show, but the toy just didn't quite live up to expectations.
Never had a Megatron, but had a Galvatron of that mold, and just thought it was okay.
Tidal Wave, now there was a great Armada toy. Hopefully he's being kept in mind as a future remake candidate for Commander class.
Unicron, hey, I was waiting for that toy since seeing the movie opening day in 86, and while there were some flaws, overall it delivered. And at an affordable price! Sure, all else equal I'd certainly prefer a HasLab version, but the Armada toy made me quite happy to have back when it came out.
Jetfire (well powerlinx or whatever they called the redecoed versions in Armada) I mainly got to make pants for the big version of OP. On his own, he was another okay one, but nothing too must have. I have to say Jetfire/OP/Energon UM make a formidable hunk of robots when combined.
Wheeljack, the name was wrong, but most of the rest was pretty cool. Not quite a faction changer, but with molded symbols for both factions and the bot symbol scratched out, it was close enough to count for me (I like faction changers, I guess
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Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034610)
Posted by joevill on August 14th, 2019 @ 8:04pm CDT
Posted by joevill on August 14th, 2019 @ 8:04pm CDT
I agree with this list!
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034626)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 15th, 2019 @ 1:55am CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 15th, 2019 @ 1:55am CDT
No one's mentioned the coolest thing about Demolishor's gun-fingers?
Any upgrades you wanted to give him were limited to Minicons being mounted on his ports, being unable to hold any conventional weapons like the other Bulks, except for one uncanny reversal: Thunderwing. Any other figure had to just awkwardly mount that shuriken mode on them somewhere, but only Demolishor could actually be posed holding it like he was about to throw it, and he was even stable enough to display that way. So just ignore his affinity for Bonecrusher in fiction, and always equip him with the Air Military Team.
(Of course, Unicron's toy could technically also do this, but the scale issues would just evoke that scene in the last ep of Gurren Lagan where the two combatants were tossing around entire spiral galaxies like shuriken)
And Megatron's cannon was in his "ARMPIT"? TF anatomy can be subjective, but I always saw his design as an attempt to homage and outdo the original Megatron toy by making his primary cannon crotch-level, rather than just the auxiliary barrel. Long before the introduction of Tidal Wave's combination revealed the actual reason for being able to rotate the turret forward, the beginning of the episode where they found Sonar in Atlantis really hammered the idea home with "Transformation Evolution!" I need to watch Micron Legend sometime to see if he actually cried out "Mega-Kuratchu-Cyclone-Barrage!"
Choose not to see it that way if you wish, but at least Armada Megs was a better dick-joke than any lame attempts in the Bay movies.
And on Tidal Wave, am I the only one here who only ever acquired Takara's show-accurate Shockwave version of the mold because I just couldn't stand either of Hasbro's decos? All the green just didn't make sense; was it supposed to be algae that grew on him while he was submerged or something? Nope, nothing but good ol' grey and black will do for my Dark Fleet.
Great list as usual!
Any upgrades you wanted to give him were limited to Minicons being mounted on his ports, being unable to hold any conventional weapons like the other Bulks, except for one uncanny reversal: Thunderwing. Any other figure had to just awkwardly mount that shuriken mode on them somewhere, but only Demolishor could actually be posed holding it like he was about to throw it, and he was even stable enough to display that way. So just ignore his affinity for Bonecrusher in fiction, and always equip him with the Air Military Team.
(Of course, Unicron's toy could technically also do this, but the scale issues would just evoke that scene in the last ep of Gurren Lagan where the two combatants were tossing around entire spiral galaxies like shuriken)
And Megatron's cannon was in his "ARMPIT"? TF anatomy can be subjective, but I always saw his design as an attempt to homage and outdo the original Megatron toy by making his primary cannon crotch-level, rather than just the auxiliary barrel. Long before the introduction of Tidal Wave's combination revealed the actual reason for being able to rotate the turret forward, the beginning of the episode where they found Sonar in Atlantis really hammered the idea home with "Transformation Evolution!" I need to watch Micron Legend sometime to see if he actually cried out "Mega-Kuratchu-Cyclone-Barrage!"
Choose not to see it that way if you wish, but at least Armada Megs was a better dick-joke than any lame attempts in the Bay movies.
And on Tidal Wave, am I the only one here who only ever acquired Takara's show-accurate Shockwave version of the mold because I just couldn't stand either of Hasbro's decos? All the green just didn't make sense; was it supposed to be algae that grew on him while he was submerged or something? Nope, nothing but good ol' grey and black will do for my Dark Fleet.
Great list as usual!
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034630)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 15th, 2019 @ 2:33am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 15th, 2019 @ 2:33am CDT
The purple version is still 1 of the few grails I need to acquire.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2034639)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 15th, 2019 @ 4:46am CDT
Just look at that Mandarake listing.
Not that expensive and easy to find.
That listing was there for ages and now it's gone. Are we TF collectors some kind of hive mind who all want the thing at the same time or what?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 15th, 2019 @ 4:46am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:The purple version is still 1 of the few grails I need to acquire.
Just look at that Mandarake listing.
Not that expensive and easy to find.
That listing was there for ages and now it's gone. Are we TF collectors some kind of hive mind who all want the thing at the same time or what?
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2019 @ 4:57pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2019 @ 4:57pm CDT
I don't have too many Armada figures, but what I have so far is a really good bunch.
My favorite is Jetfire. That is a fantastic mold that is a boatload of fun in every way, with a great robot mode, fun transformation, and that shuttle mode is simply awesome. He is so great! And he can form a pair of legs too! He would be my #1.
Megatron and Tidal Wave are great too. I wish both had some more leg movement, but they are both hulking monstrosities and are really cool.
Unicron mold is pretty good too. I have the Unicron of Light version, which is fantastic with all that green. Wish the planet was better, but it's still impressive as our first planetformer.
Minicon team Perceptor is really sweet, I adore him. Same with little Sparkplug.
The Prime mold is pretty good too (the larger one here), and the combination is cool. But he is definitely the weakest one to me in my collection of Armada guys. Bendy Prime is really good though, he is almost equal to Siege in terms of quality.
My favorite is Jetfire. That is a fantastic mold that is a boatload of fun in every way, with a great robot mode, fun transformation, and that shuttle mode is simply awesome. He is so great! And he can form a pair of legs too! He would be my #1.
Megatron and Tidal Wave are great too. I wish both had some more leg movement, but they are both hulking monstrosities and are really cool.
Unicron mold is pretty good too. I have the Unicron of Light version, which is fantastic with all that green. Wish the planet was better, but it's still impressive as our first planetformer.
Minicon team Perceptor is really sweet, I adore him. Same with little Sparkplug.
The Prime mold is pretty good too (the larger one here), and the combination is cool. But he is definitely the weakest one to me in my collection of Armada guys. Bendy Prime is really good though, he is almost equal to Siege in terms of quality.
Re: Top 5 Best Transformers Armada Toys (2038063)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 13th, 2019 @ 2:09am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 13th, 2019 @ 2:09am CDT
Personally, I would put Bendy or Superbase Optimus on this list above Sideways.
It gave us a Unicron toy at long last, it has the ring-wings that the aborted G1 toys would have lacked, we get that the feet are big because A. they look big in some shots of the movie and B. they need to be big for balance), he does form a complete planet (it's just not a perfectly spherical one, because of the need to have a side he could be stably set down on), his planet mode has a the chomping mouth from the movie, he cuts an imposing figure next to most other Transformers, he's actually WORTHY of being such a honking huge toy (unlike Beast Machines Supreme-class Cheetor, the size class' decidedly inauspicious debut)...Rodimus Prime wrote:So you don't consider his entire back sticking straight out in robot mode (and making him ungainly and top-heavy) a flaw? If it wasn't for that, he'd be#1 on my list. But that's a very bad design flaw, especially when a single hinge could have fixed it.[/img]Windsweeper wrote:Starscream still holds up today. His only flaw is not being able to turn his head.
Except that 1. the top-heaviness is negligible in practice, especially with the strong hip ratchets and the big feet, and 2. adding a hinge there would have added more complexity and another stress point to the wiring for his electronicsRodimus Prime wrote:I also don't get why the Armada Unicron mold is so loved. It doesn't even form a whole planet, and in robot mode he's top-heavy and his feet are too big. I do have the G1 25th anniversary version, but I'm not head over heels about it. I do like that he has individual articulated fingers.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 13th, 2020 @ 9:32am CST
And a different version of this Tidal Wave, also in the Hasbro colors, also appeared in the epic finale of Beast Wars: Uprising.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 13th, 2020 @ 9:32am CST
I only bought the Hasbro green one (years after Armada, even) to go with my BotCon 2014 pirates since their ship design was based on that version of Tidal Wave.Bumblevivisector wrote:And on Tidal Wave, am I the only one here who only ever acquired Takara's show-accurate Shockwave version of the mold because I just couldn't stand either of Hasbro's decos? All the green just didn't make sense; was it supposed to be algae that grew on him while he was submerged or something? Nope, nothing but good ol' grey and black will do for my Dark Fleet.
And a different version of this Tidal Wave, also in the Hasbro colors, also appeared in the epic finale of Beast Wars: Uprising.
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on February 13th, 2020 @ 7:11pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on February 13th, 2020 @ 7:11pm CST
The majority of his purple got changed to green for the Hasbro release because Hasbro's design team felt that throwing in another purple-dominated toy would have been too much on top of the amount of purple present in Decepticons already on the shelves.Sabrblade wrote:I only bought the Hasbro green one (years after Armada, even) to go with my BotCon 2014 pirates since their ship design was based on that version of Tidal Wave.Bumblevivisector wrote:And on Tidal Wave, am I the only one here who only ever acquired Takara's show-accurate Shockwave version of the mold because I just couldn't stand either of Hasbro's decos? All the green just didn't make sense; was it supposed to be algae that grew on him while he was submerged or something? Nope, nothing but good ol' grey and black will do for my Dark Fleet.
