Toy Fair 2015 Coverage - Generations: Combiner Wars Protectobots, Ultra Magnus, Cyclonus, and Legends

Hot Spot looks amazing! Way better than any Generations-style incarnation to date! (I sense an RID Prime type deco in the works.)

Also, the inclusion of Minimus Ambus in Leader Magnus is a great, thoughtful touch. Can't wait to see more pics.

Oh wow my wallet has suddenly got a lot thinner!

And we have another pretool pairing: Streetwise has been retooled from Dead End. Look and compare:



EDIT: and another: First Aid with Offroad



So stoked for the Protectobots.

And Blades is a retooled Alpha Bravo!

Moody magpie wrote:And Blades is a retooled Alpha Bravo!

Including missiles! A rescue chopper with missiles!

oooohhhhhhh mannn... its like joy overload here....

i NEED to see more defensor, but im stoked by what i DO see.
and ultra magnus.... oh my... wasnt expecting that amount of awesome.

its a great time to be a TF fan

Syn_13 wrote:

Moody magpie wrote:And Blades is a retooled Alpha Bravo!

Including missiles! A rescue chopper with missiles!

For Blades, this makes perfect sense. I can just imagine him shooting missiles at a burning building while the human occupants run in terror. All the while, Blades is saying to himself, "I'm helping!"

That Ultra Magnus looks better than I could have ever expected. Minimus Ambus included is amazing.

Protectobots looks great, no real surprises in the mould choices for retools, but Hotspot and Groove look great.

Better start saving...

Post is updated, boys. Includes Cyclonus, Warpath, Viper, and Magnus Hammer!

That Magnus! I would have preferred a more rigid/boxy truck cab but oh well it looks very promising. Can't wait for more pics and size comparisons

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Syn_13 wrote:

Moody magpie wrote:And Blades is a retooled Alpha Bravo!

Including missiles! A rescue chopper with missiles!

For Blades, this makes perfect sense. I can just imagine him shooting missiles at a burning building while the human occupants run in terror. All the while, Blades is saying to himself, "I'm helping!"

shajaki wrote:oooohhhhhhh mannn... its like joy overload here....

i NEED to see more defensor, but im stoked by what i DO see.
and ultra magnus.... oh my... wasnt expecting that amount of awesome.

its a great time to be a TF fan

It truly is! A great toyline so far and we're not even a year in. Long may it continue!

So far I'm in for the lot really, with a few exceptions here or there. Not sold on Cyclonus as I still find my RTS version to be spot on. The new version just seems a bit too bulky and blocky. It suits Silverbolt, but not Cyclonus. Although that alt mode looks great, however what with the body kibble underneath I'm still preferring the Classics iteration. I guess people will be happy to have a Voyager sized version of him though!

Syn_13 wrote:Not sold on Cyclonus as I still find my RTS version to be spot on. The new version just seems a bit too bulky and blocky. It suits Silverbolt, but not Cyclonus. Although that alt mode looks great, however what with the body kibble underneath I'm still preferring the Classics iteration. I guess people will be happy to have a Voyager sized version of him though!

youre right on all accounts for cyclonus. but (the topside at least) of that jet mode just has me drooooooling..

And you guessed it right guys: Cyclonus is made from Silverbolt. Which brings the pairing list to this:

Silverbolt - Cyclonus
Motormaster - Optimus Prime
Hot Spot - ???

Skydive - Air Raid
Firefly - Slingshot
Alpha Bravo - Blades
Dead End - Streetwise/Streetsmart
Offroad - First Aid
Drag Strip - ???
Breakdown - ??? (Wildrider?)
Rook - ???

wow, what a surprise. lots of surprises. nice Valentine's Gift..

and Cyclonus .. and Scourge..? ..unite to become.. Galvatron..??

that's nuts. good nuts.

getting all of these. it will hurt the wallet but its happening. all but that ugly powerglide repaint

So from these pics it's clear that Ambus sits inside the cab when Magnus is in bot mode. I wonder if he can fit in there whilst Magnus is in alt mode, or whether Magnus' head will take up that space.

Also, this leads me to wonder whether Magnus is going to be a bit of a partsformer. You can see from the behind shot that the truck wheels fold up onto his back and that the cab of the truck sits inside the Magnus body. I don't have the Masterpiece figure to tell how similar the figures may be in terms of transformation.

Aside from Cyclonus, I'm finding it very hard to NOT like any of this.

While MP Ultra Magnus may be the defining G1 UM ... CW UM may just be the best UM.

Cyclonus.....nah I'm just gonna pretend we got a new unicron reformat type character.

HasTak is on a budgdet, They can't afford to create all new toys for the CW combiners. I'd rather take all these repurposed CW Combiners toys instead of the option of nothing.

Think this is brillant on HasTak's behalf. It's HasTak's better ideas.

Think most fans knew this was going to happen. Just by looking at those Kreon Combiners and HasTak's budget issues.

These repurposed CW Combiners use enough retooled parts and different colors to make them each unique and stand out.

I'm going to eat ALL of these toys! This is so much awesome.
I wanna see Cyclonus's Galavatron head!
That Magnus is...

read something about a trypticon a few weeks back. cant wait to see that

I find Defensor quite clunky in its limbs, I wonder if it's just the usual curse of the brand reps.

And while I have nothing bad to say about any of the other things, I don't think I'll spring for any of them. Not as soon as they come out, anyway!

Tsutsukakushi wrote:These repurposed CW Combiners use enough retooled parts and different colors to make them each unique and stand out.

For the record, me and Bravo are tight. I don't mind the team member changes either. I don't do a lot of repaints, but in this context it's totally fine, and I will gladely double up on molds.

Silverbolt just flew in from Wisconsin this morning. I'm gonna combine him with Bravo 1st!

Ultra Magnus is by far the best version of the character ever. Minimus Ambus is just icing on the cake.

The Protectobots are bought. I was thinking about holding out for MakeToys, but when it comes to cost/complexity, Hasbro wins each time.

I'll be getting Viper simply because he's so cute.

That CW Leader Ultra Magnus toy is pure awesome. Had high hopes for this but it turned out galaxies better than I dreamed.

Don't mind the mini figure inside CW Ultra Magnus. As this is what I want a HasTak or 3rd party Update Leader class Mega Pretender toy to be like.

Noticed CW Leader Ultra Magnus has more articulation than the MP-22 toy does, minus the hands.

CW Cyclonus, That is one massive retool in the League of 30th Sandstorm. Wanted a Voyager Cyclonus from HasTak for years. As I felt the 2.0 Deluxe toy was too tiny. CW Cyclonus is going to scale nicely next to Unique Toys Mania King.

CW Defensor looks breathe taking. It's another home run for HasTak. Think it's HasTak's best CW Combiner. Think it was brillant to reuse some Stunticons and Alpha Bravo. I'd rather get Three repurposed heavily retooled toys instead of the option of nothing.
Kinda guessed Grove would form a chest plate.

Guessing CW Onslaught is going to be a massive retool using the CW Hotspot toy. With Two to Three more repurposed CW combiners. With maybe One New toy.

Rid Fracture looks to be Voyager class. Like the designs enough to consider buying the toy.

Those Hockey puck Rid Minicons look weird. Like those CGUG ones did.

Would of liked to see the CW Galvatronus head that Cyclonus has for the combiner.

Notice Masquerade Fakesaur was a no show at toy fair.

Don't mind HasTak repurposing so many of the CW combiners. Rather take this instead of the option of nothing. Don't think many fans were surprised by this as HasTak's budget could only alllow a limited number of new molds.

Think all of the Repurposed CW Combiners have enough extensive retools and different colors. To make each toy unique and stand out.

Is that some paper stickers faction symbols I see on some of the toys? Or are those all painted on?

So how many figures are from MTMTE, whether current or past cast?
Leader Ultra Magnus
Deluxe First Aid
Deluxe Blades
Deluxe Streetwise/smart
Voyager Hotspot
Legends Groove
Voyager Cyclonus
Leader Megatron (not armada)

Hell Yes, Viper has COBRA markings. Now I have to get on principle.

Cobotron wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:These repurposed CW Combiners use enough retooled parts and different colors to make them each unique and stand out.

For the record, me and Bravo are tight. I don't mind the team member changes either. I don't do a lot of repaints, but in this context it's totally fine, and I will gladely double up on molds.

Silverbolt just flew in from Wisconsin this morning. I'm gonna combine him with Bravo 1st!

You're a good man.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:CW Defensor looks breathe taking. It's another home run for HasTak. Think it's HasTak's best CW Combiner. Think it was brillant to reuse some Stunticons and Alpha Bravo. I'd rather get Three repurposed heavily retooled toys instead of the option of nothing.
Kinda guessed Grove would form a chest plate.

Guessing CW Onslaught is going to be a massive retool using the CW Hotspot toy. With Two to Three more repurposed CW combiners. With maybe One New toy.

Think all of the Repurposed CW Combiners have enough extensive retools and different colors. To make each toy unique and stand out.

With regards to these points - agree in a lot of ways, although I still see Superion as being the best, which is why I think they released him first.

Defensor looks great, nice and bulky like his original self. The only thing I will say is that I've seen an angle which looks like Groove's wheel sticks out of the chest. Not sure without seeing proper in-hand pics but I've got a feeling I'll be combining him without the Legends figure in the chest, just like Menasor (who I think looks miles better without Blackjack and a closed chest).

Like yourself I'm fine with retools. Most of the Classics figures were retools, and some great figures at that. I really would be curious to see what further retools we'll get after these rumours of Onslaught and Scattershot.

Cyclonus will form galvatronus

MOre things to buy this year! My wife is just going to love this. And that is one scary looking rescue chopper. Hopefully they gave Blades a new face, but man. I really love the look of him. That mold is great.

edit: close inspection: yes, that does look like a new face for Blades. Oh man. First Aid looks so great. They all look so great....uueerrrrrrrrrr

Syn_13 wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:CW Defensor looks breathe taking. It's another home run for HasTak. Think it's HasTak's best CW Combiner. Think it was brillant to reuse some Stunticons and Alpha Bravo. I'd rather get Three repurposed heavily retooled toys instead of the option of nothing.
Kinda guessed Grove would form a chest plate.

Guessing CW Onslaught is going to be a massive retool using the CW Hotspot toy. With Two to Three more repurposed CW combiners. With maybe One New toy.

Think all of the Repurposed CW Combiners have enough extensive retools and different colors. To make each toy unique and stand out.

With regards to these points - agree in a lot of ways, although I still see Superion as being the best, which is why I think they released him first.

Defensor looks great, nice and bulky like his original self. The only thing I will say is that I've seen an angle which looks like Groove's wheel sticks out of the chest. Not sure without seeing proper in-hand pics but I've got a feeling I'll be combining him without the Legends figure in the chest, just like Menasor (who I think looks miles better without Blackjack and a closed chest).

Like yourself I'm fine with retools. Most of the Classics figures were retools, and some great figures at that. I really would be curious to see what further retools we'll get after these rumours of Onslaught and Scattershot.

We have the pretools of Hot Spot, Rook, Breakdown, Drag Strip and possibly the proper Firefly and Blades ones (new heads don't really count) to look forward to. Start guessing

I'm curious, at this point, where the logic is in which figure a mold is designed for.

Motormaster and Optimus - MM looks better in it, but Optimus was released first (not necessarily produced).
Silverbolt and Cyclonus - SB looks better (to me) and came first.
Hot Spot - maybe an Onslaught basis?

[You could go to Springer and Sandstorm - design was for Sandstorm, Springer came first.]

Va'al wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:These repurposed CW Combiners use enough retooled parts and different colors to make them each unique and stand out.

For the record, me and Bravo are tight. I don't mind the team member changes either. I don't do a lot of repaints, but in this context it's totally fine, and I will gladely double up on molds.

Silverbolt just flew in from Wisconsin this morning. I'm gonna combine him with Bravo 1st!

You're a good man.

Oh dear lord they're multiplying ...

Va'al wrote:I'm curious, at this point, where the logic is in which figure a mold is designed for.

Motormaster and Optimus - MM looks better in it, but Optimus was released first (not necessarily produced).
Silverbolt and Cyclonus - SB looks better (to me) and came first.
Hot Spot - maybe an Onslaught basis?

[You could go to Springer and Sandstorm - design was for Sandstorm, Springer came first.]

That's what I've been wondering, especially in regards to the new characters Alpha Bravo and Offroad, based on Blades and First Aid. If we see a third retool of these molds (come on, Vortex), that would confirm my suspicions of them being afterthoughts for the sake of variety.

That Magnus is incredible! I see quite a bit of the MP design in there which is a nice touch. Not feeling Cyclonus though, it's an interesting take on the Silverbolt mold but just falls a little short for me.

To tide us over: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... als/32225/

This is all awesome, especially Magnus, I love Magnus .

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Va'al wrote:I'm curious, at this point, where the logic is in which figure a mold is designed for.

Motormaster and Optimus - MM looks better in it, but Optimus was released first (not necessarily produced).
Silverbolt and Cyclonus - SB looks better (to me) and came first.
Hot Spot - maybe an Onslaught basis?

[You could go to Springer and Sandstorm - design was for Sandstorm, Springer came first.]

That's what I've been wondering, especially in regards to the new characters Alpha Bravo and Offroad, based on Blades and First Aid. If we see a third retool of these molds (come on, Vortex), that would confirm my suspicions of them being afterthoughts for the sake of variety.

It's like a chicken and egg conundrum!

As far as speculating goes:

Combaticons:

Onslaught - Hot Spot
Vortex - Blades/Bravo
Blast Off - Weirdly enough could be Blades/Bravo again, just a heavy retool.
Swindle - First Aid/Offroad
Brawl - Could be a strange heavy retool of Rook.
Shockwave as the Legends weapon for Bruticus.

Technobots:

Scattershot - Can't see Silverbolt working. Possibly a new mould?
Afterburner - Groove
Lightspeed - Dead End/Streetwise
Strafe - Aerialbot Deluxes perhaps? Unless they use a new mould for him and Blast Off.
Nosecone - No idea. Unless, like Strafe, it's a new mould shared with Brawl perhaps.
Since Afterburner could be a Groove retool this means they might introduce a new Deluxe member.

Weirdly enough, Rook reminds me of Universe Onslaught. It'd be funny if they pull a fast one and make Onslaught a retool of Rook and use him as a limb. If that happened then why not go the whole hog and make Blast Off the torso and watch the scale nuts' heads explode!

magnus looks awesome and i will be getting him. but the mp magnus looks way better.

Rook has a real Optimus Primal vibe

Ulta Magnus...

I just came.

Rook reminds me of the Cybertron Defense Red Alert. Which kinda sucks only in that I was hoping if any variation of a UT inspired Red Alert became a new toy, it would be Animated red alert, because god damn it we need more frontier doctors.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Ulta Magnus...

I just came.

And when you look again, well ... you may want to stock up on pants.

I was hoping for Blades to be colored orange like the OTHER Blades (I know, I'm a sick person), but I guess they started doing their homework after the Strafe thing last year.

Syn_13 wrote:Weirdly enough, Rook reminds me of Universe Onslaught.

Oddly enough, what he reminds me of is Armada/Cybertron Red Alert. Not in vehicle mode, but in robot mode the claw that plugs in and takes the place of his hand gives me that vibe. Although I can sorta see molded hands, but the pegholes in the front make me unsure if I really do. (If/when I get him, I'm plugging Defensor's hand into the other hole. (An ambitious kitbasher could probably make a Hellboy transformer that way. If someone does, I want to see pics ))

To follow on from our ongoing coverage of the New York Toy Fair 2015, Seibertron.com is proud to present another refined gallery, showcasing the continuation of the Transformers Generations Combiner Wars toy line. As we have reported earlier, in this gallery you'll find a better look at IDW-inspired Leader Thundercracker (original design by Guido Guidi) and Ultra Magnus (yes, another Nick Roche, well done), plus a new combiner team of Protectobots and their gestalt mode - Defensor - and more Legend class figures. Check them out below!















Hey Kids! It's Minimus Ambus!

This is the only picture that describes how amazing leader class Ultra Magnus is.

Devastator individual bots - look awesome. Still don’t see the point of making them so big. I hope somebody shrinks them down to classics scale. I would gladly pay the same price or even more if they scaled with other combiners.

Mixmaster - Cement mixer mode blows monkey balls. Hasbro did that to mess with G1 purists. There was no reason to design him like that when the other 5 were all done G1 faithful.

Ultra Magnus – Really awesome. Glad there is no annoying white Prime. Love the overall G1 appearance. But his stacks are too tall. I guess I can live with that if he is the same size as City Commander. (Jetfire’s height minus the wings/backpack) I don’t need Ultra Magnus any bigger than that. He is not a combiner, lol.

Protectobots - Awesome. Glad to see Alpha Bravo is finally good for something. Rook is ok. I would be open to someone doing a proper Groove as a limb even if the scale in alt mode is off.

Cyclonus – Meh with a capital “M”. The Silverbolt mold is about as “Cyclonus” as the Motormaster mold is “Optimus”. Too many sacrifices to accommodate a combiner feature that is totally unnecessary for the character.

Viper - Stupid GI Joe crossover. It should have been Tailwind.

Warpath - waste of plastic. I like to call him “not Warpath”. They might as well repaint the leader megatron red and call him MP warpath.

Is that a man or a woman behind Defensor ?

SW's SilverHammer wrote:This is the only picture that describes how amazing leader class Ultra Magnus is.

I you've never been more right. That picture totally ROCKS!