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Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

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Thanks to Nemesis Primal, we know that IGN just revealed RED Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron. Pulse & Walmart preorders go up on Friday: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... lector-con.

Both figures come in at 6-inches tall and are non-converting, as is the case with the R.E.D. line. By going R.E.D., Hasbro opted to "bring collectors the most screen-accurate versions of their favorite characters" for Primal and Megatron.

Where to Preorder the New Transformers R.E.D. Figures on July 23
Transformers R.E.D. Optimus Primal - 22,99 $US
Transformers R.E.D. Reformatting Megatron - 22,99 $US
Optimus Primal has 30 points of articulation and detailed paint, coming in at 74 deco ops. While not convertible, Primal does have a pair of blasters tucked away under his forearms, which is nice.

Megatron has 23 points of articulation and is modeled and decoed after the scene in the 1986 Transformers Movie "midway through his rebirth into the immensely powerful and menacing Galvatron." Megatron comes with Fusion cannon and includes 4 changeable hands holding Energon accessories.


Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

Transformers News: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed

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Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110784)
Posted by william-james88 on July 21st, 2021 @ 2:25pm CDT
This line seems more and more pointless at every turn. I do not see how anyone would want that Primal over the Kingdom one we got.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110786)
Posted by Overcracker on July 21st, 2021 @ 2:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Thanks to Nemesis Primal, we know that IGN just revealed RED Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron. Pulse & Walmart preorders go up on Friday: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... lector-con.

Both figures come in at 6-inches tall and are non-converting, as is the case with the R.E.D. line. By going R.E.D., Hasbro opted to "bring collectors the most screen-accurate versions of their favorite characters" for Primal and Megatron.

Where to Preorder the New Transformers R.E.D. Figures on July 23
Transformers R.E.D. Optimus Primal - 22,99 $US
Transformers R.E.D. Reformatting Megatron - 22,99 $US
Optimus Primal has 30 points of articulation and detailed paint, coming in at 74 deco ops. While not convertible, Primal does have a pair of blasters tucked away under his forearms, which is nice.

Megatron has 23 points of articulation and is modeled and decoed after the scene in the 1986 Transformers Movie "midway through his rebirth into the immensely powerful and menacing Galvatron." Megatron comes with Fusion cannon and includes 4 changeable hands holding Energon accessories.


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Haven't bought any of those R.E.D figures but damn if Megs and Primal aren't tempting me. I like the reformatting translucent purple.
and Primal just looks awesome. Very close to Kingdom interestingly enough.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110788)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 21st, 2021 @ 2:43pm CDT
I don't have any interest in BW anything...
I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??
Again, only if it ever goes on sale...
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110790)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on July 21st, 2021 @ 2:50pm CDT
After seeing the mess they made of Cheetor, I had no intention of getting any R.E.D figures, but that Optimus Primal! Granted there's little point when the Kingdom figure exists, but this fella's going straight into my Optimus Primal shrine.

The Megatron's good, too. Better this than another Siege Voyager Megatron with some purple bits and a REALLY badly deco'd tank.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110791)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 21st, 2021 @ 3:02pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110792)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 21st, 2021 @ 3:09pm CDT
ooo... I legit like that Megatron. though honestly I wish he had some internal sculpting in the grid pattern area to replicate the internal bits from that scene. will probably have to get that one.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110796)
Posted by Lore Keeper on July 21st, 2021 @ 3:27pm CDT
Primal seems to be a step up from previous R.E.D. entries, though we can't know for sure until we have him in hand. Is he a bit unnecessary when Kingdom Primal is so good? Yeah. But he's still a nice indicator of how good a R.E.D. toy can look. I'm also sold on that Megatron and, as others have said, will be keeping him in a simple static pose for maximum nostalgia.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110797)
Posted by DeathReviews on July 21st, 2021 @ 3:50pm CDT
I'm familiar enough with the RED series by now to know that they way they're posed in those pictures is the limit of their poseability. All the RED figures to date have had very encumbered joints with soft, weak plastic that you can't manipulate properly without cracking and tearing.

I expected the RED figures to be MORE poseable without any transformation engineering to get in the way, but I've been sadly disappointed with all of them to date. I doubt I'll be getting either of these. The 'reformatting' Megatron looks interesting, but they couldn't even bother putting the reformatting lines all across the affected limbs, they're only on the front. Boo!
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110798)
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 21st, 2021 @ 3:58pm CDT
Megs will depend on how fast they can reveal Galvatron and if there is a reformatting version.

Kingdoms Primal bot mode was fairly decent unlike Kingdoms Cheetor so it's not really something I'd be after.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110800)
Posted by WiseMan on July 21st, 2021 @ 4:39pm CDT
Anyone else notice that the inside of his arm is scanned on the back of the package but not in the actual photos?
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110802)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 21st, 2021 @ 5:22pm CDT
At least this one has Primal's hips correctly colored red instead of blue
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110803)
Posted by cloudballoon on July 21st, 2021 @ 6:11pm CDT
Reformatting Megatron belongs to Hallmark's Christmas ornament line.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110809)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 21st, 2021 @ 8:42pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:The 'reformatting' Megatron looks interesting, but they couldn't even bother putting the reformatting lines all across the affected limbs, they're only on the front. Boo!

It's not only on the front, but it looks like it's only on two of the four sides: front and right/outside, not back and left/inside. I'm sure that does have cost implications, but it may also be an aesthetic choice. It does make certain poses look pretty silly.

I re-watched the scene today, and the effect wipes from left to right, so it would be more accurate to be reversed. There are two different designs, an x-ray/circuitry style, and rounded depth lines, neither of which resemble the grid pattern on the figure. That said, this is a simple look that scans, so I can dig it.

Honestly, this feels like something you'd have to pay a customizer to do, so even if it's not spot-on, it works for me. If I want to go crazy, maybe I'll get a standard RED Megatron and coat it in chrome and throw it under a green light to be the pre-reformatted Megatron.

Even if it's ultimately a swing and a miss, I'm glad it's a swing that Hasbro is taking. A lot of toy companies are out there doing weird redecoes like this and I'm glad we see it with TFs, especially in the non-transforming line. Like, I didn't get the Amazon dead Prime because who needs the alt mode? He's dead, he's never turning into a truck again!
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110811)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 21st, 2021 @ 8:59pm CDT
Reformating Megatron should've been part of a set with Thundercracker and Skywarp, I just don't see a point to it otherwise or doing anything else besides standing there.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110814)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 21st, 2021 @ 10:32pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Reformating Megatron should've been part of a set with Thundercracker and Skywarp, I just don't see a point to it otherwise or doing anything else besides standing there.


A set like this would’ve been awesome.
In general, this is the type of deco that would’ve been best suited for a statue.
“Reformatting Megatron” holding an energon cube? Pshhhh

Now, I’m still not against getting this one…
I could see putting him on a raised display stand to create the “floating” appearance & have him in a relatively static (& straight-facing) pose.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110821)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 22nd, 2021 @ 2:01am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Reformating Megatron should've been part of a set with Thundercracker and Skywarp, I just don't see a point to it otherwise or doing anything else besides standing there.


A set like this would’ve been awesome.
In general, this is the type of deco that would’ve been best suited for a statue.
“Reformatting Megatron” holding an energon cube? Pshhhh

Now, I’m still not against getting this one…
I could see putting him on a raised display stand to create the “floating” appearance & have him in a relatively static (& straight-facing) pose.


I'm passing on it because I still have nightmares over regular RED Megatron
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110829)
Posted by Barricade.it on July 22nd, 2021 @ 3:56am CDT
I think the RED line is a missed chance for creating more accurate figures. They cost more or less the same than their converting couterparts, yet They look quite similiar and the poseability is similar too. I hoped there were some more accessoires too (like changing face for Megatron, for exaple) btu also by this point of view there's a delusion.

I'd buy them if They were cheaper, but at that price gey're pointless, except - maybe - for some collecting maniacs.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110854)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 22nd, 2021 @ 10:34am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm passing on it because I still have nightmares over regular RED Megatron


Understandable. I've pretty much written this line off...
I will say of those I would've been interested in, Megatron still looks the best... The likeness is so good; the ideal mental image I have of this character and this figure are incredibly aligned.
I've never seen a converting figure have a better head/face sculpt then this.
Maybe MP-36's is better?? If so, not by much at all.
R.E.D.'s proportions are also on point. I've seen official animation where imo, his noggin is too large.
That's actually something I've noticed with illustrations of multiple characters.
Another huge plus for me is the fact that it's really reppin' the OG. May sound weird but I love seeing that gun barrel behind his right shoulder... Not to mention, no tank mode kibble of any kind, no greebling, no 5mm ports, fewer seams, no metal screws or pins, and no hollow bits anywhere.
That's not to say every joint is perfection (or that articulation shouldn't be better), however, out of all the offerings to date, imo this is about as close to perfect as you can get with a non-transforming, yet still articulated figure of this character. In fact, I don't have any recollection of seeing any sculpted, static statues of Megatron that match his likeness so well.

Now, wonky, warped, bent parts straight out of the box... Yeah, that sucks. But I've seen with my own eyes that this isn't a problem across the board with every figure.
For me, considering what this character is, can (and can't) do, and what's been done well, I don't see softer plastic being an issue.
Exactly like how I don't care if a transforming figure's head or waist can't turn 360, legs can't do the splits, shoulders can't be rotated to where the arms are facing straight backwards, etc.

Out of boredom as I wait for preorders to start showing up, I'm even more tempted by this figure.
Especially having a couple unopened Necca stands waiting to be used. There's still part of me that really wants to have this guy on a stand in a hovering/floating pose behind my desk at work.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110876)
Posted by ScottyP on July 22nd, 2021 @ 1:38pm CDT
Megatron's reformatting is going in the wrong direction. It goes left to right on screen, starting with the fusion cannon.

LOL, R.E.D.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110892)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 22nd, 2021 @ 4:29pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm passing on it because I still have nightmares over regular RED Megatron


Understandable. I've pretty much written this line off...
I will say of those I would've been interested in, Megatron still looks the best... The likeness is so good; the ideal mental image I have of this character and this figure are incredibly aligned.
I've never seen a converting figure have a better head/face sculpt then this.
Maybe MP-36's is better?? If so, not by much at all.
R.E.D.'s proportions are also on point. I've seen official animation where imo, his noggin is too large.
That's actually something I've noticed with illustrations of multiple characters.
Another huge plus for me is the fact that it's really reppin' the OG. May sound weird but I love seeing that gun barrel behind his right shoulder... Not to mention, no tank mode kibble of any kind, no greebling, no 5mm ports, fewer seams, no metal screws or pins, and no hollow bits anywhere.
That's not to say every joint is perfection (or that articulation shouldn't be better), however, out of all the offerings to date, imo this is about as close to perfect as you can get with a non-transforming, yet still articulated figure of this character. In fact, I don't have any recollection of seeing any sculpted, static statues of Megatron that match his likeness so well.

Now, wonky, warped, bent parts straight out of the box... Yeah, that sucks. But I've seen with my own eyes that this isn't a problem across the board with every figure.
For me, considering what this character is, can (and can't) do, and what's been done well, I don't see softer plastic being an issue.
Exactly like how I don't care if a transforming figure's head or waist can't turn 360, legs can't do the splits, shoulders can't be rotated to where the arms are facing straight backwards, etc.

Out of boredom as I wait for preorders to start showing up, I'm even more tempted by this figure.
Especially having a couple unopened Necca stands waiting to be used. There's still part of me that really wants to have this guy on a stand in a hovering/floating pose behind my desk at work.


I think when I reviewed Megatron I said it was the best, but is being the best of the worst really good? I was thinking about getting a Starscream that was on eBay but I could clearly see the blast effects bent in packaging and lost all interest.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110909)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 22nd, 2021 @ 7:45pm CDT
See, Megatron is a cool concept, that is an acceptable use of RED.

Primal is so redundant and unnecessary with the Kingdom toy on the shelves, that is a terrible use of RED
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110914)
Posted by sol magnus on July 22nd, 2021 @ 7:49pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.

It's a dream for stop motion animation projects.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110920)
Posted by william-james88 on July 22nd, 2021 @ 8:24pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.

It's a dream for stop motion animation projects.


But the reformatting megs only works for 1 stop motion frame.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110931)
Posted by sol magnus on July 22nd, 2021 @ 9:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.

It's a dream for stop motion animation projects.


But the reformatting megs only works for 1 stop motion frame.

Better than no frames. :lol:
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110937)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 22nd, 2021 @ 10:00pm CDT
This also really has me questioning why this type of deco would ever be used for a transforming figure.
I know it was just rumor, but if something like this is used with the Galvatron mold, then it wouldn’t really be “reformatting”.
And if it happens, & it’s either black or purple with just cross contour lines (the end stage of the reformatting), that’s going to be very difficult to pull off. Not to mention the cannon mode may look awful.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110956)
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 23rd, 2021 @ 2:35am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:This also really has me questioning why this type of deco would ever be used for a transforming figure.
I know it was just rumor, but if something like this is used with the Galvatron mold, then it wouldn’t really be “reformatting”.
And if it happens, & it’s either black or purple with just cross contour lines (the end stage of the reformatting), that’s going to be very difficult to pull off. Not to mention the cannon mode may look awful.


Cannon modes already look awful, Hasbro cant do much worse with their transforming galvatrons but I've got minimal interest in any Kingdom Galv. However Megatron RED has improved over the SCF :P

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Sadly never got that chase figure (not sure if it was available on the heroes of cybertron carded scf line) but I think RED has improved on it -which might not mean much when its compared to a minimally posable SCF but SCF Galvatrons still leaps and bounds over the transforming Galvatrons for capturing his look (plus he has an excuse to not be a tripple changer)*

*If there had been a worlds smallest Galvatron then no excuse, no excuse at all XD though I'm now going down a deeper hole and trying to imagine the G1 toys baby arms on a tiny figure :?
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110968)
Posted by ScottyP on July 23rd, 2021 @ 9:35am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.

It's a dream for stop motion animation projects.


But the reformatting megs only works for 1 stop motion frame.
1 inaccurate frame. Still can't get over how this toy has one job and still manages to do it wrong.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110986)
Posted by william-james88 on July 23rd, 2021 @ 1:11pm CDT
While we had a good laugh with the reveal of the RED Optimus Primal toy which looks exactly like his Kingdom toy but doesn't transform and at the Reformatting Megatron that has his reformatting grid going the wrong way, there are still fans who expressed interest. And that's great since it shows that Hasbro's offerings, no matter one's personal taste, have an audience. Well, for those who want to make sure they get these toys, Walmart has the preorders up. These links were posted by Hasbro themselves on their Facebook page. The items are due to ship out December 1st. Hasbro also posted the image which you can see below.

Preorder for Primal: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... TEKt4fxitk?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
Preorder for Megatron: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... 1zKXfGAhlk?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff

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Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2110998)
Posted by william-james88 on July 23rd, 2021 @ 2:27pm CDT
I hadn't noticed until Scotty said it but it is pretty funny that hasbro got it wrong in terms of how the reformatting is done. It's left to right, not right to left like this toy.

Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2111004)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on July 23rd, 2021 @ 4:43pm CDT
It's left to right, not right to left like this toy.

Bruh, just turn the figure round. :BANG_HEAD:
But yeah, they messed up. Though if its not released yet, they can revise the figure...
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2111018)
Posted by aronjlove on July 23rd, 2021 @ 6:46pm CDT
Even though I have KD Primal, I'd be all over RED Primal if they had the same quality as Marvel Legends, GI Joe Classified, or Star Wars Black. Wave 1 was not manufactured with the same material as their other 6" lines. I didn't touch Wave 2. These are pure action figures unhindered by kibble or limited articulation to accommodate transformations. I'm looking at you, waist swivel-less Seeker mold.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2111040)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 23rd, 2021 @ 11:23pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:Even though I have KD Primal, I'd be all over RED Primal if they had the same quality as Marvel Legends, GI Joe Classified, or Star Wars Black. Wave 1 was not manufactured with the same material as their other 6" lines. I didn't touch Wave 2. These are pure action figures unhindered by kibble or limited articulation to accommodate transformations. I'm looking at you, waist swivel-less Seeker mold.


I'd overlook the crap quality if the figures were at least 6". As it is you can't have Megs shaking hands with Classified Cobra Commander.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2111042)
Posted by Emerje on July 24th, 2021 @ 12:07am CDT
ScottyP wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.

It's a dream for stop motion animation projects.


But the reformatting megs only works for 1 stop motion frame.
1 inaccurate frame. Still can't get over how this toy has one job and still manages to do it wrong.

Forget that, it wasn't even Megatron who had the grid pattern over him, it was Galvatron. Megatron starts with the xray (which would have looked REALLY cool painted over the figure) going left to right and followed by horizontal lines covering the xray from the bottom up that reshape him into Galvatron, then the horizontal lines take on a grid pattern as they take on color. And really, the figure should be transparent black, it only looked purple in the movie because of the glowing lines. Whoever designed this did it by faulty memory.

Emerje
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2111109)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 24th, 2021 @ 8:31pm CDT
It finally happened... Patience has paid off again...
Walmart has R.E.D. Megatron on sale for $12... Snagged one, and for that price I can overlook the issues this figure has!!
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2111856)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 2nd, 2021 @ 2:36pm CDT
Got around to opening Megatron today.
For what it is I'm pretty happy with this guy!
Now, nothing on my copy is warped, and the paint apps are on point.
I do understand why people would want these figures to have even more articulation, but for $12 I'm not complaining about anything...
I'm going to keep my eye on Soundwave and SS; I didn't know how well these would scale with my CW Devastator!
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2112449)
Posted by william-james88 on August 10th, 2021 @ 2:30pm CDT
Have you ever looked at your Kingdom Optimus Primal and wished it didn't transform? Well if yes, then you are in luck because Hasbro has just the toy for you! A video review from Prime vs Prime shows you everything you can expect from the upcoming RED Optimus Primal. Here we see that he is slightly taller than the Kingdom version. He also has a removable backpack and chestplate. These should be hitting Walmarts in North America during the holiday season and the fact that we see him in package in the review means he is ready for distribution and can appear at Asian retailers any time.



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Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2112455)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on August 10th, 2021 @ 3:09pm CDT
Tbh its less about the stolen figure and more about the 3am challenge voice.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2112481)
Posted by jtanimator on August 10th, 2021 @ 7:06pm CDT
Oof, figure is so dull and plain that I thought the thumbnail for this forum post was showing the back of the figure. That’s pretty sad. Not that I have a place to complain, there was no way I was gonna buy this anyways. It’s just wild how this line continues to fail, even when I started with such low expectations.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2112513)
Posted by Starseeker on August 11th, 2021 @ 7:30am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:It finally happened... Patience has paid off again...
Walmart has R.E.D. Megatron on sale for $12... Snagged one, and for that price I can overlook the issues this figure has!!


Hoping they do that in my area too. I'd snag Cheetor just to have the gun for my Netflix figure.
I'm kind of tempted by the Starscream too, just as a display piece. But I know we're getting studio series Coronation Starscream, so I probably don't need the R.E.D.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2112535)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 11th, 2021 @ 11:03am CDT
Starseeker wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:It finally happened... Patience has paid off again...
Walmart has R.E.D. Megatron on sale for $12... Snagged one, and for that price I can overlook the issues this figure has!!


Hoping they do that in my area too. I'd snag Cheetor just to have the gun for my Netflix figure.
I'm kind of tempted by the Starscream too, just as a display piece. But I know we're getting studio series Coronation Starscream, so I probably don't need the R.E.D.


Well I recommend just keeping an eye out as much as possible...
When I found Megatron for that price, I also snagged Kingdom Arcee for $10. And now she' up to $25 or $26. And I did look the day after I ordered her, and the price was back up to $22.99.
So it's a bit of luck, but mostly patience and diligence.

I JUST saw Prime yesterday for $15. Maybe it was $15.99.
Either way, if I see Soundwave for that cost I'll probably get him.
I don't need the coronation gear, but I will even keep an eye on Starscream.
I'm trying to end up with him, Soundwave, and Megatron in front of my CW Devastator.


To those who think this line is completely worthless, I have a few thoughts.
Of course these figures could be better.
But a couple things:
--There are plenty of converting figures that could and should be better.
This has been the case since, well, as long as I've been collecting over the past 14-15 years.
--For a whole lot of people, these are ALL display pieces;
While there's probably a few different legit definitions of "play" when it comes to TF,
I'm not sure I personally would say that transforming a figure is "playing" with it.
Either way, I don't play with my TF like I played with my MOTU figures when I was 8 yrs old.
Maybe some adults do. Cool, man.
But I'm also betting there are just as many, and probably more, who don't.

There are people who HATE this line because these are non-converting figures; but their entire collection is sitting on shelves (and possibly partially in boxes stored away), and those figures rarely get touched, let alone transformed.

I look at this line for and does well rather than what it lacks.
Similar to how I view articulation. I don't need any type of figure to be able to do the splits. Or have their head, torso, or arms facing straight backwards.
Beyond what has become standard, double-jointed knees and elbows, butterfly joints at the shoulders, and maybe the ab crunch would make articulation ideal imo.
Which weird, are things the vast majority of converting figures lack!!

For what it's intended for, this line is actually pretty decent.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2112916)
Posted by MaximalNui on August 13th, 2021 @ 6:52pm CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:
It's left to right, not right to left like this toy.

Bruh, just turn the figure round. :BANG_HEAD:
But yeah, they messed up. Though if its not released yet, they can revise the figure...

Maybe it's for practicality sake? I can imagine keeping a consistent pattern printed on half the figure is already hard with all the typical grooves and details, but with two giant cannons to worry about (on the arm and on the back) they might just have decided to cut their losses and keep the grid on the easier side.
Emerje wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm okay with the look of Megatron, but if he's reformatting, how is he doing anything else??

This is an action figure that will only ever look good in a static pose. For me personally, that's perfect, it's just for display purposes as part of a Unicron scene. I think this is kind of the ideal use case for R.E.D., because the rest of the time a converting figure is better.

It's a dream for stop motion animation projects.


But the reformatting megs only works for 1 stop motion frame.
1 inaccurate frame. Still can't get over how this toy has one job and still manages to do it wrong.

Forget that, it wasn't even Megatron who had the grid pattern over him, it was Galvatron. Megatron starts with the xray (which would have looked REALLY cool painted over the figure) going left to right and followed by horizontal lines covering the xray from the bottom up that reshape him into Galvatron, then the horizontal lines take on a grid pattern as they take on color. And really, the figure should be transparent black, it only looked purple in the movie because of the glowing lines. Whoever designed this did it by faulty memory.

Emerje

True, but ask yourself this: which effect is more iconic and mentioned, the grid or the x-ray? It's basically the movie's "Beam Me Up, Scotty": even if it's not exactly what happened, it's how any casual viewer would remember.
Also, again, practicality: a grid pattern is probably easier to replicate than an x-ray.

My biggest question is why Primal has a removable chest. He's not supposed to transform, and I don't remember that happening on the show, so why did they do it?

Anyway, I hope they eventually make Autobot X, Nightbird, the Trans-Organics and upgraded Sari Sumdac. The former 2-and-group are memorable but don't transform, so they'd be perfect for this line; and replaceable hands, head and feet would be the most accurate "transformation" any Sari toy could get.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2113615)
Posted by william-james88 on August 19th, 2021 @ 6:10am CDT
Many have removable chests, even Bumblebee. I think it's just an extra gimmick to this line.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2113655)
Posted by MaximalNui on August 19th, 2021 @ 6:10pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Many have removable chests, even Bumblebee. I think it's just an extra gimmick to this line.

Why, though? Is it to fit the packaging? Is it for better articulation? Otherwise it seems really pointless.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2113778)
Posted by Emerje on August 22nd, 2021 @ 2:35am CDT
MaximalNui wrote:True, but ask yourself this: which effect is more iconic and mentioned, the grid or the x-ray?

For me, if it weren't for these figures doing the grid pattern I never would have remembered the grid since it's a blink and you'll miss it moment in the whole sequence. It's literally on the screen for a second, maybe two. They spend a lot more time focusing on the xray, that'll always bee the most memorable part of that sequence to me. I'd take the horizontal lines over the grid.

Emerje
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2114189)
Posted by william-james88 on August 26th, 2021 @ 11:38pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
MaximalNui wrote:True, but ask yourself this: which effect is more iconic and mentioned, the grid or the x-ray?

For me, if it weren't for these figures doing the grid pattern I never would have remembered the grid since it's a blink and you'll miss it moment in the whole sequence. It's literally on the screen for a second, maybe two. They spend a lot more time focusing on the xray, that'll always bee the most memorable part of that sequence to me. I'd take the horizontal lines over the grid.

Emerje


I just rewatched it and I think some people interchange the grid with the X-Ray. Turns out the Megatron body never has a grid pattern. The grid pattern is present on galvatron right before his new cartoon self is revealed. It's 1 second long.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2114195)
Posted by Emerje on August 27th, 2021 @ 12:01am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
MaximalNui wrote:True, but ask yourself this: which effect is more iconic and mentioned, the grid or the x-ray?

For me, if it weren't for these figures doing the grid pattern I never would have remembered the grid since it's a blink and you'll miss it moment in the whole sequence. It's literally on the screen for a second, maybe two. They spend a lot more time focusing on the xray, that'll always bee the most memorable part of that sequence to me. I'd take the horizontal lines over the grid.

Emerje


I just rewatched it and I think some people interchange the grid with the X-Ray. Turns out the Megatron body never has a grid pattern. The grid pattern is present on galvatron right before his new cartoon self is revealed. It's 1 second long.

I'd really like to know what's going on at Hasbro. First RED Megatron gets the grid pattern and now Kingdom Galvatron gets something that sort of looks like an attempt at the x-ray. They also both use purple plastic when the they were both clearly black with a slight purple glow coming from the lines in the scene. Is it that hard for them to just re-watch it on YouTube?

Emerje
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2114891)
Posted by Starseeker on September 2nd, 2021 @ 5:34pm CDT
My son wanted a RED Megatron, so I gave it a shot as well, and I have to say, I actually really like it. I may be in the minority, but this is pretty nice for what it is. I recommend giving it a shot if you haven't. It's a nice cartoon accurate display piece.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2116521)
Posted by william-james88 on September 22nd, 2021 @ 9:21pm CDT
We have been sent a list of upcoming toys for 2022 and we are breaking them down per line. Of course, since we only have listed names from ordering sheets and no actual listings, you should take these with a grain of salt.

This list below is for the RED line which is remaining Walmart exclusive for the next year (but can also be ordered on Hasbro Pulse). It seems it will mainly be redecos/retools with 4 new molds. Also, the release of Cliffjumper now reveals why Bumblebee has a removeable chest piece, it's to make a retool that much easier to do. This would be for the entirety of 2022.

Wave 1:
G1 Galvatron x2
G1 Shockwave x2
Redeco Megatron x1
Redeco Optimus Prime x1

Wave 2:
Prime Optimus Prime x2
Prime Megatron x2
G1 Shockwave x1
G1 Galvatron x1

Wave 3:
G1 Thundercracker x2
Nemsis Prime x2
Prime Optimus prime x2

Wave 4:
Prime Dark Energon Megatron x2
G1 Cliffjumper x2
G1 Thundercracker x2
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2116535)
Posted by whacko on September 22nd, 2021 @ 11:24pm CDT
So Hasbro is still pushing on with this line even though it isn't selling...

However they can't seem to keep any WFC stocked at any retailer across the nation.

Odd priorities.
Re: Transformer RED Series Optimus Primal and Reformatting Megatron Revealed (2116540)
Posted by william-james88 on September 22nd, 2021 @ 11:59pm CDT
whacko wrote:So Hasbro is still pushing on with this line even though it isn't selling...

However they can't seem to keep any WFC stocked at any retailer across the nation.

Odd priorities.


It's just more stock for the shelves. Also, this line seems like an easy one for them cost based wise. Not a lot of new molds and no need for takara designer involvement.

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