Transformers Collectors' Club Head Sculpts on Display at Joe Con 2014

Protoform X's head sculpt looks great. As do Rewind's & Chromedome's.

They all look great. Damnit, they should just give IDW its own toyline already so we don't need to pay heaps for repaints. I want new moulds!

The sculpts look great, but because I usually expect prototypes/test-shots to be white or grey, this color just gives me the weird idea that FunPub's hard work tragically suffered the fastest-acting case of photodegradation in history.

And even though I know why it has to be so small, X's severed head just don't look right next to Waspinust's. It's making me real impatient to see them attached to something.

And since Joe's in the topic's title, I may as well mention this here: while my regular rounds of Livonia-area 5-Belows turned up no new TFs, I did notice Joe Retaliation figures have finally (inevitably) shown up. I didn't see Lady Jaye, but some of the others (like Firefly-with-go-kart) I thought were in her case for some reason. Is she shortpacked, or are there any other scarce ones I should look out for?

MINDVVIPE wrote:They all look great. Damnit, they should just give IDW its own toyline already so we don't need to pay heaps for repaints. I want new moulds!

They did give it its own toyline. That's what the Generations Thrilling 30 line currently is.

The fact that IDW G1 Chromedome is only being made this way means that Hasbro has no interest in giving us a proper IDW G1 Chromedome toy, so Fun Pub is giving us the next best thing.

Sabrblade wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:They all look great. Damnit, they should just give IDW its own toyline already so we don't need to pay heaps for repaints. I want new moulds!

They did give it its own toyline. That's what the Generations Thrilling 30 line currently is.

No it isn't. The Thrilling 30 is intended to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the brand. There may be IDW characters in it, but it is not an IDW line.
Unless I missed those issues with the BH Platinum Ultra Magnus and the Constructobots BH Predaking in them, since those are both of them are officially numbered Thrilling 30 releases. The Generations packages say "Thrilling 30" on them, but figures like Sandstorm and FoC Grimlock haven't been in the comics. So, to say that the line is the IDW line is not very correct.

You may correct me now as you wish, because I know better than to think you won't.

Dagon wrote:You may correct me now as you wish, because I know better than to think you won't.

That's baiting and you know it.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dagon wrote:You may correct me now as you wish, because I know better than to think you won't.

That's baiting and you know it.

I suppose, if that's what you want it to mean. It wasn't my intention, but hey, I respect your opinion.

Dagon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dagon wrote:You may correct me now as you wish, because I know better than to think you won't.

That's baiting and you know it.

I suppose, if that's what you want it to mean. It wasn't my intention, but hey, I respect your opinion.

The important thing is, he didn't admit that he was wrong.

Dagon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dagon wrote:You may correct me now as you wish, because I know better than to think you won't.

That's baiting and you know it.

I suppose, if that's what you want it to mean. It wasn't my intention, but hey, I respect your opinion.

Well, if you insist:

Dagon wrote:No it isn't. The Thrilling 30 is intended to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the brand. There may be IDW characters in it, but it is not an IDW line.

I said the Generations Thrilling 30 line. "Thrilling 30" on its own has a much broader meaning like what you said. The portion of the Generations toyline that utilizes the "Thrilling 30" sublabel commemorates the 30th anniversary by acting as a vehicle outlet for toys based on the IDW G1 comics, which comics themselves are likewise commemorating the anniversary.

Dagon wrote:Unless I missed those issues with the BH Platinum Ultra Magnus and the Constructobots BH Predaking in them,

Those aren't Generations toys.

Dagon wrote:since those are both of them are officially numbered Thrilling 30 releases.

I wasn't talking about the 30 exclusive toys, just the Generations toys marked under the Thrilling 30 label.

Dagon wrote:The Generations packages say "Thrilling 30" on them, but figures like Sandstorm and FoC Grimlock haven't been in the comics.

Grimlock isn't a Thrilling 30 toy.

Dagon wrote:So, to say that the line is the IDW line is not very correct.

It's the closest thing we have to one, atm. And I didn't say it was "the" IDW line, just that it is currently a line for IDW's G1 comics to have their own toys.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dagon wrote:You may correct me now as you wish, because I know better than to think you won't.

That's baiting and you know it.

I suppose, if that's what you want it to mean. It wasn't my intention, but hey, I respect your opinion.

Well, if you insist:

Dagon wrote:No it isn't. The Thrilling 30 is intended to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the brand. There may be IDW characters in it, but it is not an IDW line.

I said the Generations Thrilling 30 line. "Thrilling 30" on its own has a much broader meaning like what you said. The portion of the Generations toyline that utilizes the "Thrilling 30" sublabel commemorates the 30th anniversary by acting as a vehicle outlet for toys based on the IDW G1 comics, which comics themselves are likewise commemorating the anniversary.

Dagon wrote:Unless I missed those issues with the BH Platinum Ultra Magnus and the Constructobots BH Predaking in them,

Those aren't Generations toys.

Dagon wrote:since those are both of them are officially numbered Thrilling 30 releases.

I wasn't talking about the 30 exclusive toys, just the Generations toys marked under the Thrilling 30 label.

Dagon wrote:The Generations packages say "Thrilling 30" on them, but figures like Sandstorm and FoC Grimlock haven't been in the comics.

Grimlock isn't a Thrilling 30 toy.

Dagon wrote:So, to say that the line is the IDW line is not very correct.

It's the closest thing we have to one, atm. And I didn't say it was "the" IDW line, just that it is currently a line for IDW's G1 comics to have their own toys.

This does little to prove me wrong. I myself said that FoC Grimlock is not a Thrilling 30 toy, nor an IDW toy. I also know that Magnus and Contructo Predaking aren't Generations toys. I said that they weren't as well. You are the one saying that Thrilling 30 and Generations are IDW toys, not me.
And, you said

Sabrblade wrote:They did give it its own toyline. That's what the Generations Thrilling 30 line currently is.

Which means that the Generations line is the IDW line. That's what that statement means. You didn't say closest thing to or whatever you're saying now.
In the long run I don't care, and I'm not trying to make something out of this. I'm having a hard time believing I'm baiting someone by pointing out that Generations Thrilling 30 is not an IDW specific line when there are figures that fit either the Thrilling 30 or Generations alone that are not IDW-based toys, like Sandstorm, Grimlock, and others.
But, you know.

I'm not talking about the entire Generations line, only the current phase of it:
Phase 1 - War for Cybertron
Phase 2 - "Classics-style"
Phase 3 - Fall of Cybertron
Phase 4 - Thrilling 30

The stuff that came before the Thrilling 30 phase of the Generations line is superfluous to what I'm referring to. The exact words I used were "Generations Thrilling 30". Not "Generations" alone, not "Thrilling 30" alone, but "Generations Thrilling 30", which is a specific group of figures within the greater line. Not once did I say that every Generations and every Thrilling 30 toy is for IDW. Only those released in the "Generations Thrilling 30" line-within-a-line.

Honestly, how is it so difficult to understand what I'm referring to?

And why do you keep bringing up Grimlock when he was a Generations Fall of Cybertron figure and not a Generations Thrilling 30 figure?

Sabrblade wrote:I'm not talking about the entire Generations line, only the current phase of it:
Phase 1 - War for Cybertron
Phase 2 - "Classics-style"
Phase 3 - Fall of Cybertron
Phase 4 - Thrilling 30

The stuff that came before the Thrilling 30 phase of the Generations line is superfluous to what I'm referring to. The exact words I used were "Generations Thrilling 30". Not "Generations" alone, not "Thrilling 30" alone, but "Generations Thrilling 30", which is a specific group of figures within the greater line. Not once did I say that every Generations and every Thrilling 30 toy is for IDW. Only those released in the "Generations Thrilling 30" line-within-a-line.

Honestly, how is it so difficult to understand what I'm referring to?

And why do you keep bringing up Grimlock when he was a Generations Fall of Cybertron figure and not a Generations Thrilling 30 figure?

Apologies in advance. I'm argumentative.

Even if we stick to "Generations Thrilling 30" we have several non-IDW toys in that line. Oddly, mostly voyagers: Sandstorm, Blitzwing, Doubledealer, Rhinox, Whirl (yes, Whirl is a prominent IDW character, but the Generations toy is arguably more a G1 homage)...

I would say they're more or less IDW-styled. That's a fair assertion to make.

Sabrblade, it should have been clear that what I meant was a line dedicated to giving us IDW figures. I read the comics and definitely know that many recent generations/thrilling 30 figures are IDW representations (with slight changes), but we do not have a Chromedome that looks like an IDW Chromedome. If it was a line focused on IDW like how TF Prime had their own toyline, do you believe they would have the new character be a repaint of an older one? That is like if they introduced the Prime Wheeljack figure and he was just a repaint of Classics Sunstreaker.


All I'm saying is that it would be sweet to have a line dedicated to IDW, meaning everyone from Fort Max to rung get figures with no shortcuts in repaints from Hasbro or funpub or whoever.

Color me impressed.

I sure hope Hasbro gives us more Voyager scaled Beast Wars figures in the future. That Protoform X head makes me want to love my Rampage figure, but then I look at him.

I mean, he's decent, especially for the time. But he doesn't stand on his own, he's super kibbly, and his chrome paint is almost all gone.

And those stupid claws - one of them broke off at the base, and unfortunately that is one crustacean that doesn't regenerate.

I cant wait till these show up in the mail, good times. That Chromedome head is sweet looking and between him, Rewind and Barricade I had to get the sub. Also Threadshot is pretty cool too. Even though I am not a big Beast Wars fan that Thrustinator head looks tight. I also would like an IDW comic line or just more IDW characters figures to keep coming, Brainstorm and Tailgate I am looking forward to very much.

Sabrblade wrote:
And why do you keep bringing up Grimlock when he was a Generations Fall of Cybertron figure and not a Generations Thrilling 30 figure?

This is my last post on the matter, because I don't want people to think that I'm being combative or anything, as it's really not what I'm after.

It's not that I don't understand, it's that you claimed the Generations Thrilling 30 to be the IDW line when it isn't.

I keep mentioning FoC Grimlock because he's a Generations figure and not an IDW figure. If the line were for IDW figures, then why does it include figures that are not IDW ones. Or if Grimlock is the specific sticking point here, then why not Rhinox or Whirl? Neither of them appear in the IDW stuff as these figures, and saying it that way should preempt any confusion over the G1 Whirl of the toy and the clearly not G1 Whirl of the comics.

I think the real 'issue' with Generations as IDW line is that it isn't an IDW line, but a line that includes IDW figures. Like Mindvvipe said, an IDW line would be one that was IDW characters only, the way Prime was a line that contained Prime designs and Prime characters. The old Universe line was not a Beast Wars line because it contained BW figures. This tangent we're having spun out of someone's desire for an IDW-specific line, which Generations isn't.

As a final word on the matter, Generation is basically the catch-all line for anything aimed at collectors now. You may not have noticed it, but starting with Cyberverse, Hasbro has started with the "series ID" monickers for some lines, including Prime and Generations:

Cyberverse
Series 1: Dark of the Moon
Series 2: Prime
Series 3: Beast Hunters

Prime
"Series 0": First Edition
Series 1: Robots in Disguise
Series 2: Beast Hunters
Series 3: Beast Hunters (Simplified)

Generations
"Series 0": War for Cybertron, general updates
Series 1: Fall of Cybertron + their retools
Series 2: Thrilling 30's
Series M4: Age of Extinction

With every new Series comes a new general direction, but Generations Series 2 is a bit of a hodgepodge admittedly, using existing IDW designs for some (cross promotion I'm guessing), and using original designs for others. So it's not strictly IDW and never has been, but in typical Generations fare, goes in whatever direction it pleases, especially for the larger size classes and retools.

these head sculpts look great and all, but when the heck are the figures supposed to start coming out? We are over a quarter of the way through 2014 already.

philswitch engage wrote:these head sculpts look great and all, but when the heck are the figures supposed to start coming out?

May.