Transformers Collectors' Club TFSS 4.0 Thread - Mayhem Attack Squad Teaser

Can't wait to see what the final mockups look like!

Looks like Bludgeon has some swords there.

Randy

Is this a tease for the combined mode's head or am I just being dense at the end of a work week?

hope it lasts a month or 2, really need time to get funds together

Im not sure exactly theyre "teasing" since the 4.0 figures have already been revealed over a month ago.

The real "mayhem" begins when the 4.0 pre-order site crashes 5 times and Brian sends out a barrage of apology e-mails for a week...

Im still pissed about the purposely missassembled Nacelle tailfins. Yo Brian give us 3.0 buyers a god damn $25 credit or something !

"Purposely"?

Rated X wrote:Im not sure exactly theyre "teasing" since the 4.0 figures have already been revealed over a month ago.

They're teasing the sign up date (which is still unknown), not the figures.

Rated X wrote:Im not sure exactly theyre "teasing" since the 4.0 figures have already been revealed over a month ago.

Maybe they're gonna show the combined form? It'd be good id we could see it before the signup deadline.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Rated X wrote:Im not sure exactly theyre "teasing" since the 4.0 figures have already been revealed over a month ago.

Maybe they're gonna show the combined form? It'd be good id we could see it before the signup deadline.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. They didn't the last time they did a combiner (not necessarily the same, but still...), plus they like to keep their secret figures a 'secret' (leaks notwithstanding) so we might just have to wait for in hand images; but I do hope that they do reveal it, it would influence my decision.

TF_JW wrote:"Purposely"?

The tampos on the tailfins were printed upside down. In attempt to conceal it they missassembled the tailfins on purpose. They are upside down and point downward in jet mode all for the sake of having the tampos pointed up properly instead of upside down. You have to crack the glue on the legs to fix it.

Rated X wrote:

TF_JW wrote:"Purposely"?

The tampos on the tailfins were printed upside down.

Not according to the original mock up from the Club:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:

TF_JW wrote:"Purposely"?

The tampos on the tailfins were printed upside down.

Not according to the original mock up from the Club:

It doesn't really matter what they intended, something/someone f&cked up, and now nacelle is a massive insult to the money you paid for it

Hellscream9999 wrote:It doesn't matter what they intended, something/someone f&cked up, and now nacelle is a massive insult to the money you paid for it

Unless your Nacelle has somehow spontaneously combusted your home or caused you to contract some heinous disease or something else like that I'd think you're overreacting to a rather minor imperfection that otherwise has no bearing on either the playability or functionality of the figure overall.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:It doesn't matter what they intended, something/someone f&cked up, and now nacelle is a massive insult to the money you paid for it

Unless your Nacelle has somehow spontaneously combusted your home or caused you to contract some heinous disease or something else like that I'd think you're overreacting to a rather minor imperfection that otherwise has no bearing on either the playability or functionality of the figure overall.

I didn't buy them at all, and maybe it is a stretch, but it's more the spirit of the matter, you pay, basically the price of a cheaper third party figure for a deluxe, the least they can do - as a company that makes these figures - is assemble and paint them correctly

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Rated X wrote:Im not sure exactly theyre "teasing" since the 4.0 figures have already been revealed over a month ago.

Maybe they're gonna show the combined form? It'd be good id we could see it before the signup deadline.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. They didn't the last time they did a combiner (not necessarily the same, but still...), plus they like to keep their secret figures a 'secret' (leaks notwithstanding) so we might just have to wait for in hand images; but I do hope that they do reveal it, it would influence my decision.

The last combiner was membership figures spread over five years, so it's not only "not necessarily the same", it's not close enough to compare. And while I could be wrong, it's my understanding that the combiner is formed from the five already-revealed Decepticons, so showing it wouldn't really ruin any surprises.

Especially since the secret figure is a deluxe, so we know it's not going to be a supplementary figure like Groove/Blackjack/Powerglide.

grimdragon2001 wrote:hope it lasts a month or 2, really need time to get funds together

Usually the registration period ends in october. Also, apparently if I read correctly, this year they are giving a 2 pay period option?

Hopefully they can give us some hi-res images of them and some alt mode pics.



Pretty please?

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:It doesn't matter what they intended, something/someone f&cked up, and now nacelle is a massive insult to the money you paid for it

Unless your Nacelle has somehow spontaneously combusted your home or caused you to contract some heinous disease or something else like that I'd think you're overreacting to a rather minor imperfection that otherwise has no bearing on either the playability or functionality of the figure overall.

To understand the extent of the problem you must also own botcon thrust to see the correct way the tailfins are supposed to be assembled. When they are assembled upside down like nacelle was, the tailfins peg in slanting down in jet mode and it looks horrible. The people who assembled them put them upside down on purpose to make the tampo facing up properly as if it wasnt misprinted in an effort to hide it. They didnt realize the tailfins are not meant to be universal. Theres a right tailfin and a left tailfin. Now theyre backwards, upside down, and slanted in jet mode. If you want to fix them you have to crack the glue which holds the legs together which im a bit nervous to do. It doesnt matter how their mock up render has the fins. Its not what we got in hand. They f**ked up and I think thats worth a small bit of compensation out of brians pocket. I spoke with angie at TFCC and suggested the idea, but of course one complaint isnt gonna make it happen. They would have to get a barrage of nacelle complaints to seriously consider some form of reimbursement for 3.0 subscription buyers. Im shocked that a fandom known for being anal about even the slightest defect is just going to let this one slide. What happened to all the people who complained when SG drift got two right or left guns ? People bi**hed like hell and those were bonus parts that werent even supposed to come with that version of the mold. But here a figure thats legitimately screwed up and nobodys giving the club hell.

The tampos are printed correctly.

TF_JW wrote:The tampos are printed correctly.

No offense buddy but youre wrong.

I guess people who dont own Botcon Thrust wont get it. Heres some comparison pics I took to explain the screw up…





As you can see in these images, the tampos were printed upside down before assembly. However the tampos were placed with the proper side facing up during assembly by putting the right tailfin on the left side of the jet and the left tailfin on the right side of the jet. This results in the tailfins pointing downward in jet mode. It also results in the larger portion of the tampo part of the tailfin being underneath instead of on top as it was meant to be with Thrust.

Whether this miss assembly was intentionally done by the factory workers to hide the tampo being printed upside down is unknown. Or maybe they’re just really, really stupid. Either way, there’s no excuse for this and buyers deserve some form of compensation. As I said earlier, my complaint alone isn’t going to be enough to sway them. If you got a misassembled Nacelle, give the club a call and voice your discontent. If they get enough complaints, maybe down the line we can get a store credit or a new set of legs properly assembled even if the tampo is upside down.

That's comparing them to Thrust. Compare them to the digital mock-up next; they weren't meant to mirror Thrust's exactly.

TF_JW wrote:That's comparing them to Thrust. Compare them to the digital mock-up next; they weren't meant to mirror Thrust's exactly.

Dude the wings and tailfins are a special mold exclusive to funpub. Theres a proper way to install them. The factory workers screwed up. If you look at the mock up clearly it shows the tailfins assembled properly (like thrust) with the tampos upside down. I would have been ok with that but what everybody got was the oppisite. We got the tailfins missassemled with the tampos facing up correctly like thrust. Its super annoying. If you want to reassemble yours like the mockup it involves disassembling the legs and cracking the glue. Thats a bit scary.

You keep saying that the tampos were incorrectly applied. And have used that as "evidence" that the following (mis)steps in production were done purposely.

I'm saying that the tampos are actually properly printed, as originally intended. The swoosh is meant to begin at the bottom front of the wing and arch upwards and towards the rear, so if you were to flip the wings, the swoosh would match the original mock-up.

I haven't commented on how the wings were assembled. I'm just saying that there is no conspiracy here.

I hope that clears up what I've been trying to get at?

TF_JW wrote:You keep saying that the tampos were incorrectly applied. And have used that as "evidence" that the following (mis)steps in production were done purposely.

I'm saying that the tampos are actually properly printed, as originally intended. The swoosh is meant to begin at the bottom front of the wing and arch upwards and towards the rear, so if you were to flip the wings, the swoosh would match the original mock-up.

I haven't commented on how the wings were assembled. I'm just saying that there is no conspiracy here.

I hope that clears up what I've been trying to get at?

If anything, the real "conspiracy" is your stance that this was all done purposely. For your information Angie from the TFCC Club even acknowledged it was an assembly error over the phone with me when I called to inquire about a replacement.

I suppose you don't have Botcon Thrust. G1 Nacelle is basically Thrust in blue with the wings and tailfins in white. It's from an early prototype picture of the G1 toy before the character was made a "conehead" in the G1 cartoon. Same Thrust decals in the same pattern, just different base colors. So it would make perfect sense to make the homage from the CHUG mold in the same fashion. There's no denying its an printing error combined with a miss assembly to hide it. The only thing we don't know for sure is if the factory workers were just too lazy to fix it before proceeding with assembly or if they honestly didn't catch it. Weve seen minor assembly errors in funpub figures such as Cannonball and Machine Wars Hoist. It happens. But unlike those errors, this one screws up the alt mode and makes the tailfins point downward when pegged in jet mode.

You keep bringing up the "mockup". Compare the mockup to the photos of what I got in hand and you can clearly see its not the same thing. Any my friend also got one just like mine. Theyre all like that. So whether you believe the "mockup" or Botcon Thrust's configuration was intended, what we got was neither of the two.

I've been trying to figure out what you've been saying so that I could address it. It started by saying that the tampo was wrong. Which is itself a wrong statement. The tampo was applied correctly and as intended.

However, the wings were then assembled upside-down. So the tampo that was supposed to be an upward arch - the opposite of what BotCon Thrust has - is now incorrect. They now match Thrust's. Which was not the original intent.

I'm going to post a photo that I just took of a Nacelle that I disassembled and re-built the proper way. Maybe that will help. This Nacelle looked exactly like everyone else's, but I cracked the glue in the lower legs and put the wings on the proper side. See how the tampos now match those in the mock-up? That's all I've been saying.



This isn't a case of the wings being "purposely misassembled" to correct the tampo. The tampo was right when it was applied. This is just a misassembly.

TF_JW wrote:I've been trying to figure out what you've been saying so that I could address it. It started by saying that the tampo was wrong. Which is itself a wrong statement. The tampo was applied correctly and as intended.

However, the wings were then assembled upside-down. So the tampo that was supposed to be an upward arch - the opposite of what BotCon Thrust has - is now incorrect. They now match Thrust's. Which was not the original intent.

I'm going to post a photo that I just took of a Nacelle that I disassembled and re-built the proper way. Maybe that will help. This Nacelle looked exactly like everyone else's, but I cracked the glue in the lower legs and put the wings on the proper side. See how the tampos now match those in the mock-up? That's all I've been saying.

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This isn't a case of the wings being "purposely misassembled" to correct the tampo. The tampo was right when it was applied. This is just a misassembly.

Well you are getting what Im saying about the misassembled tailfins that are upside down. But keep in mind the original prototype pics (which was pre- conehead Thrust) clearly show the label to be facing up just like G1 Thrust. (and Botcon Thrust) With that being said, clearly the upside down tampo on Funpub Nacelle was an error because it does not homage this the original artwork:



Remember Funpub is all about toy/cartoon accuracy, so I just can’t see them inverting the tampo just for the sake of inverting it. Somebody got it wrong, be it Funpub or the factory workers.
If the mockup was drawn intentionally with the tampo upside down, then it was a Funpub artist’s error. And then the factory workers printed the tampo as instructed but just assembled them wrong trying to match G1/Botcon Thrust.

Anyways, I wanna fix my Nacelle so it looks like yours, but Im nervous about cracking that glue in the legs.

Oh boy, Rated X of Seibertron vs. Jesse Wittenrich of Fun Pub.

While we have someone from Funpub here, might I ask a question that's back on the subject of the TFSS 4.0?

Hey, Jesse! Pardon my asking, but do you think we might see combined pictures of Mayhem Maximus at some point before the signup deadline?

Nemesis Primal wrote:Hey, Jesse! Pardon my asking, but do you think we might see combined pictures of Mayhem Maximus at some point before the signup deadline?

Personally I'm not bothered if we don't, though I would love to see the Gestalt's head. I don't plan on combining these guys.

More information about the TFSS 4.0. Pre-orders start TOMORROW!!



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Fellow Seibertronian and TFCC ambassador TF_JW has shared the latest info on the Subscription Service 4.0, and reminded us all that pre-orders for the seven figures start tomorrow! Check out the image below, giving some background detail on the Mayhem Attack Squad, mock-ups of the figures, and a turnaround of Bludgeon's head sculpt, mirrored via the Club's official Facebook page.

Who remembers the Mayhem Attack Squad? Well get ready for their thunderous return because they are about to enter the COMBINER WARS!

Thank goodness it goes on throughout the rest of the month since I am nowhere near financially ready for this.

The more I think about it, the more I feel windsweeper should have been the torso from the silverbolt mold. That futuristic concorde looks just like a B1 bomber like what he is supposed to be. They could have made bludgon from the brawl mold since they are allowed to touch the bruticus retools. Also would be cool if they just scrapped impactor and did crankcase or quake instead. Crankcase from the rook mold would have been a better choice. Or quake from generations warpath like the charticon exclusive custom figure.

Wish the orders stood would go through October, but considered me very interested. Even if I don't decide to display them in combined form, my Classics Decepticons need some beefing up!

Very nice. I wonder what their combined form will be called?

Does anyone know if Impactor and the mystery 7th figure will come with a hand/foot piece?

That would be pretty trolly to release a Combiner Wars limb figure without the piece they'd need to become a limb.

steals_your_goats wrote:Does anyone know if Impactor and the mystery 7th figure will come with a hand/foot piece?

As far as I know, all the Deluxes will come with all their accessories, as well as Double Targetmasters for Spinister and Needlenose.

Mindmaster wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Does anyone know if Impactor and the mystery 7th figure will come with a hand/foot piece?

As far as I know, all the Deluxes will come with all their accessories, as well as Double Targetmasters for Spinister and Needlenose.

Okay cool, hopefully that's true

bluecatcinema wrote:Very nice. I wonder what their combined form will be called?

5 re-repaints combine to form the Mighty "Price Gouge"!

Rated X wrote:The more I think about it, the more I feel windsweeper should have been the torso from the silverbolt mold. That futuristic concorde looks just like a B1 bomber like what he is supposed to be. They could have made bludgon from the brawl mold since they are allowed to touch the bruticus retools.

While I don't disagree with the notion of someone other than Bludgeon being the torso, I feel it would have been cooler if they had retooled the Voyager Cyclonus mold into the Thuderwing (if such was feasible, that is) and used him as the torso instead since Thunderwing was the one who interacted with these exact four limb-bots, while Bludgeon was away from all of them at the time.

A three week window, considering that tomorrow is the start, doesn't really give me any leeway in making my order for this. Even breaking the price up in 3 doesn't help. Why not a 30 - 45 day window to make the purchase? It's not like we're getting the first figure anytime soon...

The window between getting approvals and tooling availability confirmations and the deadline to get numbers in to start production greatly affects how long the pre-order window can be left open. Unfortunately.

TF_JW wrote:The window between getting approvals and tooling availability confirmations and the deadline to get numbers in to start production greatly affects how long the pre-order window can be left open. Unfortunately.

That doesn't take away how less than thrilled I am that 4.0's starting before 3.0's final installment has yet to be made. Even by going with installments for 4.0, that's still a large expense to simultaneously wrap up one subscription and start another, especially when the point of installments is to ease the cost of the subscription in the first place.

Additionally...given how long it can take the club to get the first figures out anyways (Carzap in May being early compared to Barricade/RiD Scourge around July/August), would waiting a month or extending the order period into September have really created that significant a delay? I'd be fine with waiting longer to start getting figures if the order period was extended, and how this would lead to a delay then be sufficiently communicated to subscribers.

Are there plans to give Bludgeon a sword? I'm thinking of cases like Alpha Trizer and last year's AoE Silver Knight Deluxe Optimus that came with the random G1 Predacon sword. Or maybe it's already been shown with one and I wasn't paying close enough attention.

When it goes live, the order page will list what each figure comes with.

TF_JW wrote:When it goes live, the order page will list what each figure comes with.

...Meaning Bludgeon will most likely come with a sword.

Shweet.

TF_JW wrote:The window between getting approvals and tooling availability confirmations and the deadline to get numbers in to start production greatly affects how long the pre-order window can be left open. Unfortunately.

I can appreciate that, but essentially we're looking at a 9 month gap between 1st payment and 1st figure being released. Yes, we heard from the club in July that pre-orders will go live sometime in August. I just feel a bit miffed that I have a 3 week period to jump in on the program AND make some type of payment from the actual, time-specified start. Maybe it's just me, since I have other plans with the money available to me in the next 3 weeks.

Lbsammills51 wrote:That doesn't take away how less than thrilled I am that 4.0's starting before 3.0's final installment has yet to be made. Even by going with installments for 4.0, that's still a large expense to simultaneously wrap up one subscription and start another, especially when the point of installments is to ease the cost of the subscription in the first place.

I'm in that same boat of thinking.

TF_JW - I hope you can reach out to those in management and let them know that a bit longer grace period will not only be appreciated, but also net the club more subs.

Lbsammills51 wrote:

TF_JW wrote:The window between getting approvals and tooling availability confirmations and the deadline to get numbers in to start production greatly affects how long the pre-order window can be left open. Unfortunately.

That doesn't take away how less than thrilled I am that 4.0's starting before 3.0's final installment has yet to be made. Even by going with installments for 4.0, that's still a large expense to simultaneously wrap up one subscription and start another, especially when the point of installments is to ease the cost of the subscription in the first place.

Additionally...given how long it can take the club to get the first figures out anyways (Carzap in May being early compared to Barricade/RiD Scourge around July/August), would waiting a month or extending the order period into September have really created that significant a delay? I'd be fine with waiting longer to start getting figures if the order period was extended, and how this would lead to a delay then be sufficiently communicated to subscribers.

i think what "The Informant" is trying to imply is that Bludgeon is going to be run right after Hasbro has Wave1 Part2 of Onslaught finished, and so order numbers have to be in before Hasbro shelves the tooling. I agree, in that I would kike to have had another few weeks. I've been setting aside money for this, but I also dont have Tfss3 bearing down on me this year, either. I wish they coulda done the order period a few weeks sooner, if nothing else, but that doesnt help with balancing the 3.0 payment plan

Sabrblade wrote:Thank goodness it goes on throughout the rest of the month since I am nowhere near financially ready for this.

Tell me about it. Especially since I've also got open preorders for the optimus Maximus components and Grand Scourge.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Thank goodness it goes on throughout the rest of the month since I am nowhere near financially ready for this.

Tell me about it. Especially since I've also got open preorders for the optimus Maximus components and Grand Scourge.

Yeah, combiners are keeping the fandom busy for the time being