Transformers: Prime wins one Daytime Emmy Award, also nominated in four other categories

Sabrblade wrote:This is the third time it's won the same award. Well, okay, it's technically the second time it's won, since the first two were won at the same time. But it's still the same award as the first two. Can't this show win anything in addition to and different from the "Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation" award?

Sabrblade wrote:This is the third time it's won the same award. Well, okay, it's technically the second time it's won, since the first two were won at the same time. But it's still the same award as the first two. Can't this show win anything in addition to and different from the "Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation" award?

cannonfodder4000 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:This is the third time it's won the same award. Well, okay, it's technically the second time it's won, since the first two were won at the same time. But it's still the same award as the first two. Can't this show win anything in addition to and different from the "Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation" award?

Does it have to win other awards? not to sound mean but, we know the show's good, so it doesn't gotta win alot of awards just to prove that.

Autobot Megatron wrote:Congradulations to Prime.

5150 Cruiser wrote:If its the best in that catagorey then whats the problem if it wins multiple times? Can't win in every catagorey.

cannonfodder4000 wrote:Does it have to win other awards? not to sound mean but, we know the show's good, so it doesn't gotta win alot of awards just to prove that.

Sabrblade wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:If its the best in that catagorey then whats the problem if it wins multiple times? Can't win in every catagorey.

cannonfodder4000 wrote:Does it have to win other awards? not to sound mean but, we know the show's good, so it doesn't gotta win alot of awards just to prove that.

The thing is, winning just this award and none others indicates that the only thing worth commending about this show is its animation. The story, the acting, the characters, the overall development, the emotion, the drama, the action, the comedy (what little there is), the writing, the directing, the scripting, the more substantial elements... none of these get any recognition in this award. It's only the animation that gets any love from winning the same award three times. It's basically like saying that only the visuals of this show matter and none of its more important factors.

And since its already won this award, winning it again without any other achievements indicates that it hasn't risen any higher than its previous status quo in any and all regards of quality, as if to say that no improvements have been made to make anything else beyond the animation worth praising.

Bottom line is, there's much more to a show than its good looks.

RhA wrote:Is external validation that important? I liked all three movies, Armada and G1. I can't give a rat's hind quaters if an award commitee agrees or not with my taste. And if they do in any way, shape or form... Then yay. If not, so what?

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:Is external validation that important? I liked all three movies, Armada and G1. I can't give a rat's hind quaters if an award commitee agrees or not with my taste. And if they do in any way, shape or form... Then yay. If not, so what?

That the thing, though. *You* don't care. To you, it doesn't matter whether or not Prime wins any awards at all.

But this is geared towards those who DO care. Those who want it to be successful enough to be critically acclaimed. Those who want it win awards that it has chances of winning. We want it to go all the way towards excellence and commendation. To be all that it can be and get the proper credit it deserves.

But, being stuck with the same award and no other recognition indicates that it isn't going as far as it could, as though the animation is the only thing worthwhile about this show when there's so much more to it than a pretty face.

It's like if you put all your effort into a school science fair project that included all kinds of internal features and details to make it really stand out, but the only award you won was for the shade of color you used to paint it. And then you try even harder the following year, only for the same thing to happen again. That's what this feels like.

Unless all the other programs up for nomination are really truly all so much better made and superior to Prime, it's being judged by its appearance alone instead of by its integral contents within.

RhA wrote:So external validation for the things you like is important to you. All I'm saying is that in order to enjoy something, people with a scoreboard should not matter.

Beyond that, in this thread you are the only one to want more awards for this show. Yet you write 'those', 'we' and so on. It's pretty hard to defend the opinion of an unspecfied group of people without proof of their collective opinions (surveys etc.), keeping the argument on a personal level ('I', 'me') is easier and probably closer to the actual truth. Not to be rude, it's a pet peeve of mine.

Chaoslock wrote:Animation superior. Storytelling inferior.

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:Animation superior. Storytelling inferior.

Or that you simply feel that TF: Prime's animation looks to be better made than its story?

If the latter, I can see how one would think that they put more effort into the animation that the story at times, but it has gotten better.

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:So external validation for the things you like is important to you. All I'm saying is that in order to enjoy something, people with a scoreboard should not matter.

Beyond that, in this thread you are the only one to want more awards for this show. Yet you write 'those', 'we' and so on. It's pretty hard to defend the opinion of an unspecfied group of people without proof of their collective opinions (surveys etc.), keeping the argument on a personal level ('I', 'me') is easier and probably closer to the actual truth. Not to be rude, it's a pet peeve of mine.

While no one else here has spoken up about wanting this show to be good, it is fairly safe to assume that there are those who do besides myself, since whenever the Bay movies were in the same position of being nominated for several awards, all those who enjoyed the movies spoke up about wanting them to win as many categories as possible. The same can logically be applied to fans of TF: Prime who care about this show just as much as those who care about the movies. Why, some of them could very well even be the same people.

And, it should be plainly obvious that the show's creators themselves would want this show to be as successful to win awards and such. Otherwise, they wouldn't have praised their work so much and/or built up so much hype for it in interviews, convention panels, etc. Of course they want this show to do very well since they're the ones who made it and put so much effort into making it. It wouldn't make sense for them to make a show and not care about its success. They might as well not even try if they didn't care. That's bad business.