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Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review

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The new animated series Transformers: Robots in Disguise has aired already in the Australian cyclone-lands, and Seibertron.com board admin Burn was able to both watch the Pilot and report on it without giving too much away! Read on below for a breakdown and thought cap on this new venture for team Bumblebee.

Burn wrote:
Burn Reviews Transformers:Robots in Disguise


So I guess this job falls to me after having watched the two-part "Pilot".

First and foremost, from what I've seen of the series from the initial character designs, through to a few short videos, and then the toys, I wasn't expecting much from the series.

Suffice to say, I've been pleasantly surprised.

The show, may be ... fun. There's a number of moments where you just have to laugh. Put that down to the characterisation, all of the characters are incredibly unique. So let's run through them!

THE CHARACTERS

Bumblebee - The veteran, reluctantly thrown into the leader position of a bunch of misfits. It's so weird hearing him talk ...
Strongarm - The ride-along, a stickler for the law. She quotes the rules more than Red Dwarf's Rimmer quoted Space Corps directives. Young and out to impress her ranking officer.
Sideswipe - The perp, reluctantly dragged into the mix when arrested by Strongarm. Very little respect for authority, but being one of the good guys, he'll fall into line eventually.
Fix-It - The mini-con, in charge of a prison transport ship that has crashed to Earth. Currently suffering glitches which you could describe as dyslexia. Not really living up to his name ...
Denny - The father, a collector of ... things ...
Russell - The son, not a collector, typical cartoon human kid
Grimlock - The Dinobot, an escaped prisoner from the transport ship, a little amnesic over a few details, not a fan of Underbite. Also nothing like previous Grimlocks.

Which brings us to ...

Underbite - The Chompazoid, the first escaped prisoner we meet. The Popeye of the Transformers world (his spinach is anything metal), a body builder type personality who loves his muscles ... a lot. Fun and interesting character. And not a Dinobot.

Oh and then there's that other guy who's dead ... kinda ... he's still preachy.

THE ANIMATION

I liked it. The aesthetic may not be my preference, but it worked quite well for my liking.

THE STORY

It was different, it was unique. This isn't your usual "Optimus Prime and his team are out to stop Megatron and the Decepticons with help from the humans". This is a whole new team with only one character we know well. It's a bold new move, and it works. It proves we don't need established names to enjoy a Transformers cartoon. Just give it a good story. As I said, there's little bits of comedy. Underbite, despite being the bad guy, is a character you can get behind.

OVERALL

It's good. It's worth watching. It's got potential. Some series you watch "just so you can join in the conversation", this one is WORTH watching because I think many will enjoy it, and so you can join in the conversation, right here, on the Energon Pub forums!
Credit(s): Burn

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Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654072)
Posted by griftimus prime on February 21st, 2015 @ 5:59am CST
not a fan. hope it gets canceled.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654074)
Posted by Burn on February 21st, 2015 @ 6:03am CST
griftimus prime wrote:not a fan. hope it gets canceled.

Wow ... you've watched more than two episodes then?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654084)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 21st, 2015 @ 7:08am CST
Think they're just not a fan of the style but then not everyone can get past the visual.

(Unless he's from the future, has seen the first season...if that's true I would like lottery numbers please)
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654090)
Posted by Dagon on February 21st, 2015 @ 8:02am CST
Burn wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:not a fan. hope it gets canceled.

Wow ... you've watched more than two episodes then?



Assuming the post was serious in the first place, there really is no required amount of exposure to something before a person is allowed to make their judgement. That fact often gets lost in the rush to defend things. I don't have to eat X amount of poisonous plants before I declare them poisonous just because someone thinks they're pretty.

Nice write up Burn. While I've not seen any episodes, I realize that that does not leave me unable to have decided that I also don't care much for the way it looks visually, and except for the little clips of Grimlock being interesting, I don't much care for what I know of the show. I'm sure I'll check it out if I stumble across it when it's on, but it just doens't really seem to be the kind of series that I go for.
But I love Beast Machines, so.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654114)
Posted by Peridot on February 21st, 2015 @ 8:51am CST
griftimus prime wrote:not a fan. hope it gets canceled.

"I personally don't like it, therefore nobody should be able to enjoy it." :roll:
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654143)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2015 @ 10:11am CST
Episode 2 is online! - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k1okRQjL32875nacuAx





Spoilers Below





Episode 2 -

The "Previously On" segment omits the "Transformers" part of the show's title ("Previously on Robots in Disguise...") for the first since Beast Machines.

Still no theme song for this episode either. Come on, Hasbro Studios. We LIKE theme songs. Stop diminishing the level of excitement we'd want to feel.

Grimlock's got a score to settle with Underbite. Even though the two of them came from the prison ship, Grimlock wants to fight Underbite simply because he likes picking fights with worthy opponents. And because he and Underbite haven't fought yet, he considers his business with Underbite unfinished.

Denny is lost for words at the sight of a "talking robot car"

Underbite's right and left arms are named Thundercruncher and Bonesmasher, respectively.

Underbite's spotted Crown City and is heading there.

Fixit's repaired one cell and has equipped the other Autobots with capture devices.

Bee insists that they take on Earth altmodes to draw less attention to themselves. Strongarm scans one, but Sideswipe's fine as he is.

Seems that Bee's altmode is supposed to be the same one he had on Earth back in Prime. Guess we can account for its aesthetic differences in this show being due to this show's slightly different art style.

Sideswipe is ordered to stay behind since he didn't scan a new form.

Underbite's losing power the longer he goes without eating metal.

Seems Sideswipe changed his mind since he's scanned a new form anyway. His new altmode has kanji on it like RID 2001 W.A.R.S. and G1 Drift.

At the quarry, Everyone (even Denny in his truck) rams into Underbite to force him over the cliff.

However, Undebite proves his might over them with a boost from a quick bite and take Denny hostage, threatening to kill him.

But an interception from beyond the grave steps in, Optimus Prime.

After delivering his message of encouragement, Optimus returns to the afterlife.

The unconscious Underbite is returned to his stasis cell.

The Autobots move the equipment from the Alchemor to Denny's scrapyard, where they'll set up their HQ with better cover than the woods.

Grimlock's is granted mercy by Bumblebee, who tells him to consider himself on probation, much to his delight.

Seems this team's gonna be butting heads just as much as the Maximals of Beast Wars were.




Well, this one was fun. Simple, but fun. It feels more serious than Animated, yet lighter than Prime, so it feels right around where it needs to be. Though, it could have stood to be a bit more funny, but we did get some great moments from Underbite, who completely stole this episode. He is a wonderful Decepticon character with the charm and charisma like that of a macho wrestler. And the humans proved their mettle in this one with Russell coming up with the plan to lure Underbite away from the city to the quarry, and with Denny having the guts to stand against Underbite in his truck and help in trying to push Underbite over the cliff. Though, with this taken place after Prime, it does raise the question of why Bee's team hasn't contacted Unit:E for help yet. Though, it is still pretty early in the series, so it's entirely possible that they still could. But, if they don't, it's also possible that Bumblebee since doesn't want to involve any more humans in the conflict than he already has, as he was previously adamant about keeping Denny and Russell out of it. And it's also quite possible that many many years have occurred since Prime ended that Unit:E might not exist anymore. After all, from what we could see of Crown City, it sure looked like some futuristic high tech alien city rather than any 21 century Earth city. Really makes me wonder what time period this show takes place in. Overall, it was pretty good. I'm not over the moon for the show yet, but I'll keep watching.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654159)
Posted by dreadwing95 on February 21st, 2015 @ 10:47am CST
okay i love this show so far
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654160)
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 21st, 2015 @ 10:50am CST
Well, caught the first episode...

Can't say I'm digging the animation, it seems to be very fluid at times and then very jittery, perhaps it was lag on the vid, but I thought it seemed that way.

Characters are okay for now, I'm disliking Strongarm's back and forth excitable Prime fan and by-the-book rookie personality. I'd have liked to see a tiny bit more conflict on her decision, as well as Bumblebee being a lot more angry at them for tagging along and for Sideswipe picking up a human.

Now, Fix-It seemed entertaining and Underbite was a great new con to add to the franchise. He puts me in mind of a combination of Runabout/Runamuck with the added bulk and bravado of TFP Breakdown.

Story wise, wish we'd gotten a prologue with an explanation of the time elapsed from Predacons Rising, as well as a glimpse of maybe the prison ship actually crashing.

Humans are, well Denny, and I haven't seen the second episode yet, seems like he's going to be a bit annoying. Russell is actually a refreshing difference, a kid who's got an eccentric dad who he still loves but also has to deal with in a angsty way.

Overall, I enjoyed the first episode, think the Autobots could use some character development, liking the new 'Con, divided on the humans, and am hoping they will explain the time difference.


P.S. Oh psj? HE'S A CHOMPAZOID, A FORM OF CYBERTRONIAN THAT HAS A BESTIAL ROBOT FORM!! IN OTHER WORDS: NOT A DINOBOT.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654164)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2015 @ 10:57am CST
Madeus Prime wrote:Well, caught the first episode...
Got the second episode linked to up above. ;)^

As for the animation, the video for both episodes was very laggy on my end as well. I'm thinking it's due to all the ads that Dailymotion has.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654168)
Posted by Peridot on February 21st, 2015 @ 11:00am CST
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Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654193)
Posted by Va'al on February 21st, 2015 @ 11:35am CST
^Va'al likes this post.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654275)
Posted by the1snapdragon on February 21st, 2015 @ 1:36pm CST
Any links for first ep?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654280)
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 21st, 2015 @ 1:50pm CST
The first episode was okay. I mean, I'm not expecting much out of the pilot of any show, let-alone this one, but the first five minutes seem terribly rushed. To an extent, the whole episode is. It's one event after another with no time for buildup, which led to a lazy way of introducing and bunching up the characters. I'll see how part 2 fairs, but right now, I'm not entirely impressed.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654291)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2015 @ 2:13pm CST
the1snapdragon wrote:Any links for first ep?
On the previous page, at the top of my review of it.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654345)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2015 @ 4:33pm CST
Expect episode 3 to be coming pretty soon, as it has aired in Australia as well.

4 and 5 will air next weekend.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654374)
Posted by Burn on February 21st, 2015 @ 5:34pm CST
It did air @ 6:30am ... not sure how many would have been up to watch it.

Woke up at 5:45am and I thought it was 8:30am, same as yesterday. Then I remembered it was 6:30am.

Then I remembered daylight savings which mean 5:30am for me.

I went back to bed for over 2 hours.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654439)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2015 @ 7:51pm CST
Episode 3 is online! - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k5my4G4HPpQdPtacLYd



Spoilers below



Episode 3 -

Not even two seconds into the episode and already are Sideswipe and Strongarm at each other's throats.

Hello, Steeljaw!

Finally, a theme song! And it's just okay. Better than Prime's boring first one, but not as good as its Beast Hunters version or the awesome Rescue Bots theme.

Fixit's intercepted a radio communication about a giant metal shark attacking an oil tanker. Fixit confirms that the Alchemor's database does mention a Sharkticon having been among its prisoners.

But there's anothere signal out there as well. Bee and Grimlock are gonna head for the oil tanker while Strongarm and Sideswipe are sent to check the other signal.

LOL at Bee and Grimlock driving the boat like so:
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One thing's for certain about Grimlock, his dino mode head and tail transform just like those of his FOC counterpart, literally morphing out of his body from nothingness. Y-Yay for consistency?

Hammerstrike, the Sharkticon, has a West Country accent. And he's voiced by David Kaye.

Strongarm's found Steeljaw, who tries to trick her into thinking that he wasn't a prisoner on the ship, but a guard, to get her to drop her guard.

Hammerstrike hates walking on two legs "like some foul land-dweller". And he considers himself "Cybertron's most feared pirate."

Just like X-Brawn in the 2001 RiD cartoon, Grimlock can only sink instead of swim.

Human authorities are headed to the tanker, so both Hammerstrike and Bumblebee have to finish their fight later and get outta there.

Steeljaw, having captured Strongarm, tries to explain himself to her, claiming that he just wants a chance to start over in peace, which he feels he can acquire on this planet since he had no criminal record here.

Man, Hammerstrike's face sure is expressive for a guy with such a simple face design.

Sideswipe pretends to be a Decepticon ("Grimbee") to distract Steeljaw while Russell frees Strongarm.

Using Hammerstrike's own frictionless oil-covered floor against him, Bee and Grimlock trap him in a large metal barrel.

Steeljaw calls out "Grimbee's" treachery as being "how like you Autobots."

Though Steeljaw was beaten, he got away when the others weren't looking.

Bumblebee states that Steeljaw is now at the top of their Most Wanted list.




Ted McGinley -- Ship Captain


Okay, things are looking up for this show with this one. We got plenty of character focus and some progression on each Autobot, and both of the Decepticons were great. Hammerstrike is fun pirate type brought to life wonderfully by David Kaye, and the animation on him was so excellently done in spite of his fairly simplistic look. Steeljaw, oh man, Steeljaw is so intriguing. He strikes me as one of those who believes himself to be in the right, on a more noble ground than the Autobots, whom he views to be underhanded and corrupt. Though he claims to want a second chance at a peaceful existence, it likely isn't the same definition of "peace" as the Autobot think. But it is very possible that he has reformed like his says, but likely reformed from one form of evil into another. Either way, this guy's cool and I wanna see more of him. As of now, I think this show's really got the potential to be better than Prime was.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654450)
Posted by psj333 on February 21st, 2015 @ 8:21pm CST
The episodes that just aired Australia hasn`t been aired on YouTube yet. Will these recently aired episodes be aired on YouTube in just days later, right before the North American release is available?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654451)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2015 @ 8:25pm CST
psj333 wrote:The episodes that just aired Australia hasn`t been aired on YouTube yet. Will these recently aired episodes be aired on YouTube in just days later, right before the North American release is available?
For once, there IS an answer to be given. They will not be put on YouTube because all attempts by the Australian fans to put them on there have been taken down by YouTube. This is why the one guy who has been uploading them for online viewing has instead been putting them onto Dailymotion, which I have linked to in all three of my episode write-ups in this thread. It is thanks to these Dailymotion uploads that I've already watched all three episodes. Do not go looking for episodes on YouTube as you won't find them there. Stick to Dailymotion instead.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654460)
Posted by Burn on February 21st, 2015 @ 9:18pm CST
If you're going to say "Spoilers Below" ... use the spoiler tag as well, that's what it's there for.

Some people may be waiting for it to air rather than downloading. Just saying. >:oP
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654465)
Posted by psj333 on February 21st, 2015 @ 9:39pm CST
Sabrblade, show me how those links work on dailymotion.com, so that me or anybody else in this community can watch current and future episodes once they`re aired in Australia.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654467)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2015 @ 9:42pm CST
psj333 wrote:Sabrblade, show me how those links work on dailymotion.com, so that me or anybody else in this community can watch current and future episodes once they`re aired in Australia.
Just go to the posts I wrote for each episode in this thread and click the links I posted.

Episode 1's write-up is on the previous page, while episode 2's and 3's are further up this current page.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654488)
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 21st, 2015 @ 11:50pm CST
psj333 wrote:Sabrblade, show me how those links work on dailymotion.com, so that me or anybody else in this community can watch current and future episodes once they`re aired in Australia.


You marmalated numpty, he has. :lol:
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654493)
Posted by Burn on February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:02am CST
Until the cartoon gets a much broader release, please remember to use the spoiler tags if you're going to go into detail about an episode.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654496)
Posted by william-james88 on February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:14am CST
psj333 wrote:Sabrblade, show me how those links work on dailymotion.com, so that me or anybody else in this community can watch current and future episodes once they`re aired in Australia.

just click on the hyperlinks he has provided.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654524)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 22nd, 2015 @ 2:31am CST
Folks I hate to say it but this is a sequel to Prime in so much that it takes place after that show and that's it. It's a kids cartoon, they really can't go back and reference a show that's no longer on the air, and aired on another network. Sure there might be a way to do it, but I doubt they will.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654526)
Posted by Shadowman on February 22nd, 2015 @ 2:36am CST
On the one hand, I really like that Grimlock is basically a toned-down version of Brick from Borderlands. (Especially with his love of punching things) On the other hand, I absolutely hate how he's basically a big middle finger towards canon. Season 1 of Prime at least had the excuse that there wasn't a whole lot of communication between High Moon and Hasbro Studios. (Which they started fixing with Season 2 and FOC tying in closer to each other) This show doesn't get that, since it's been long enough since WfC and FoC came out that they should know Grimlock's personality and background in Aligned. It's the same with Sideswipe, unless the phrase "Hey, remember that time you, me and Optimus broke into Kaon to rescue Zeta Prime?" is used eventually.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654571)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 22nd, 2015 @ 7:34am CST
Shadowman wrote:On the one hand, I really like that Grimlock is basically a toned-down version of Brick from Borderlands. (Especially with his love of punching things) On the other hand, I absolutely hate how he's basically a big middle finger towards canon. Season 1 of Prime at least had the excuse that there wasn't a whole lot of communication between High Moon and Hasbro Studios. (Which they started fixing with Season 2 and FOC tying in closer to each other) This show doesn't get that, since it's been long enough since WfC and FoC came out that they should know Grimlock's personality and background in Aligned. It's the same with Sideswipe, unless the phrase "Hey, remember that time you, me and Optimus broke into Kaon to rescue Zeta Prime?" is used eventually.
While I do agree to an extent (especially with Mairghread Scott as one of the people at the helm of this show, who went to great efforts to work the FOC Dinobots into the Prime cartoon's world via the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, on top of the Prime cartoon referring to the Dinobots on its own), I'm gonna sit back and wait and see if anything comes out of this.

Like, if they eventually reveal that this Grimlock and Sideswipe are different people from the previous ones, born from the Well after it was restored back in Predacons Rising.

Or if they are the same but had something happen to each of them to make them be like this. Like if Grimlock had been captured by the Cons and brainwashed so thoroughly that he old personality was completely overridden by his new one. Or if Sideswipe simply chose to "not grow up" (a la Peter Pan), explaining how he's still a teen-bot while Bee's gotten passed that point (when Bee was the younger of the two back in the Great War).
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654578)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 22nd, 2015 @ 7:46am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Shadowman wrote:On the one hand, I really like that Grimlock is basically a toned-down version of Brick from Borderlands. (Especially with his love of punching things) On the other hand, I absolutely hate how he's basically a big middle finger towards canon. Season 1 of Prime at least had the excuse that there wasn't a whole lot of communication between High Moon and Hasbro Studios. (Which they started fixing with Season 2 and FOC tying in closer to each other) This show doesn't get that, since it's been long enough since WfC and FoC came out that they should know Grimlock's personality and background in Aligned. It's the same with Sideswipe, unless the phrase "Hey, remember that time you, me and Optimus broke into Kaon to rescue Zeta Prime?" is used eventually.
While I do agree to an extent (especially with Mairghread Scott as one of the people at the helm of this show, who went to great efforts to work the FOC Dinobots into the Prime cartoon's world via the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, on top of the Prime cartoon referring to the Dinobots on its own), I'm gonna sit back and wait and see if anything comes out of this.

Like, if they eventually reveal that this Grimlock and Sideswipe are different people from the previous ones, born from the Well after it was restored back in Predacons Rising.

Or if they are the same but had something happen to each of them to make them be like this. Like if Grimlock had been captured by the Cons and brainwashed so thoroughly that he old personality was completely overridden by his new one. Or if Sideswipe simply chose to "not grow up" (a la Peter Pan), explaining how he's still a teen-bot while Bee's gotten passed that point (when Bee was the younger of the two back in the Great War).



I'm REALLY hoping for the different characters option. Of course, knowing how the shows are, they're probably never going to address it, and will use TF:Prime for all their references instead.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654586)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 22nd, 2015 @ 7:55am CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Of course, knowing how the shows are, they're probably never going to address it,
I'm thinking that might happen as well, and if it does, we can only hope for more supplementary material to clue us in to the nature of each, or just have to accept that they left it to fan interpretation.

Though, if this happens, and we never get and answer, the Wiki's current position of keeping the fiction/toy info for these two on the pages of their WFC counterparts is gonna lead to more debates about whether they should stay on those pages or being given their own pages. *sigh*

I wish this continuity had its own John Barber (Ms. Scott was the closest thing it had to one, but now that she's helming this cartoon, it's anyone's guess as to whether or not she'll do anything to patch up the curiosities of 'Swipe and Grim).
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654618)
Posted by Foxbear on February 22nd, 2015 @ 10:16am CST
:D If these three episodes are anything to go by I think I can say I am going to like this show, possibly even more than Prime.
:BOT:

Over all I was completely enthusiastic: good characters, good character development, a varied cast of "villains" and several more Autobots to look forward to.

But there was one note that struck oddly. Just three seconds in an otherwise Optimus hero-worshiping Transformers standard set up.

Between 18:07 and 18:10 two things happen.

1) Russel, who has already met and formed friendships with Autobots, who was about to charge a Chompaziod for his father, reacted to Optimus by stepping back in fear. By itself probably nothing.

...but...

2) Before throwing him off the cliff Optimus seems to exchange a nod and a wink with the Chopazoid. As if they were plotting something together.

This makes me very suspicious.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654646)
Posted by Foxbear on February 22nd, 2015 @ 11:32am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Shadowman wrote:On the one hand, I really like that Grimlock is basically a toned-down version of Brick from Borderlands. (Especially with his love of punching things) On the other hand, I absolutely hate how he's basically a big middle finger towards canon. Season 1 of Prime at least had the excuse that there wasn't a whole lot of communication between High Moon and Hasbro Studios. (Which they started fixing with Season 2 and FOC tying in closer to each other) This show doesn't get that, since it's been long enough since WfC and FoC came out that they should know Grimlock's personality and background in Aligned. It's the same with Sideswipe, unless the phrase "Hey, remember that time you, me and Optimus broke into Kaon to rescue Zeta Prime?" is used eventually.
While I do agree to an extent (especially with Mairghread Scott as one of the people at the helm of this show, who went to great efforts to work the FOC Dinobots into the Prime cartoon's world via the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, on top of the Prime cartoon referring to the Dinobots on its own), I'm gonna sit back and wait and see if anything comes out of this.

Like, if they eventually reveal that this Grimlock and Sideswipe are different people from the previous ones, born from the Well after it was restored back in Predacons Rising.

Or if they are the same but had something happen to each of them to make them be like this. Like if Grimlock had been captured by the Cons and brainwashed so thoroughly that he old personality was completely overridden by his new one. Or if Sideswipe simply chose to "not grow up" (a la Peter Pan), explaining how he's still a teen-bot while Bee's gotten passed that point (when Bee was the younger of the two back in the Great War).


The "completely new character fresh from the Well" theory works best for Sidwswipe IMHO. Especially given how Bumblebee treats him like an impulsive young kid to be mentored.

However for Grimlock the brainwashing makes more sense. Either he was the real Grimlock who got mind-wiped enough to become the current incarnation. Or he was a different dino-bot entirely and either Decepticon mind-messing or the crash messed up his head to the point where he just assumed the name out of confusion.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654651)
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 22nd, 2015 @ 11:44am CST
Watched two and three and...yes I'm using the spoiler Burn.


Episode Two:

Plot: Well, continuation of Episode 1, not bad, really wish Optimus would've explained more, but without mystery we wouldn't have a show.

Underbite: If this is what the other 'Cons will be like, I'm a happy camper.


Episode Three:

Plot: Well, much more interesting, two new 'Cons introduced, more character development. Thought the trust exercise was a cute joke.

Hammerstrike: Very pirate-y, surprised by the personality, loved the talk of land-dwellers stench.

Steeljaw: Oh, me likey. Whoever this guys voice actor is, I certainly am liking him. He's a perfect combination of calm and collected and then extremely temperamental.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654653)
Posted by Va'al on February 22nd, 2015 @ 11:50am CST
Steeljaw is his voiceship Troy Baker. *swoons*
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654670)
Posted by ebonyleopard on February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:34pm CST
Gotta say. I'm really digging Steeljaw. For one, his animation and expressions are great. He's got that, aw, he's so friendly looking, but will probably rip out your innards in a heartbeat thing going for him. If he really is to be the leader of this series cons, I'm liking the fact he's such a smooth character over your normal power hungry type.

I know Grimlock isn't the same as any FOC version of him, but damn he's adorable. It's like..G1 season 3 Grimlock, but a bit smarter and better dialogue.

The animation is also winning me over for everything BUT the humans. There's still just something weird about the kid and dad's eyes in this CGI style that throws me off.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654675)
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 22nd, 2015 @ 12:54pm CST
Pilot Part 2 was a lot better paced than part 1, but HOLY SMOKES is it the definition of a deus ex machina resolve. It was like;

"Optimus, you're alive! Or are you?" "I dunno. Fuck it. See ya later."

Where the hell did they pull that one? It HAD to be somewhere worse than their ass. Christ. I'm sure they'll give some slapdash explanation later, but doing something like that so quickly was a poor choice.

Trust Exercises, on the other hand, was perfectly paced and well written. Definitely the best of the three that have aired. Steeljaw seems as interesting as I thought he'd be, and Hammerstrike wasn't particularly entertaining more than he was fun to laugh at. I like that the ridiculous designs are getting the proper reaction not just from fans, but the characters as well. I laughed out loud when Bumblebee just sorta went "yeah, okay, whatever..." under his breath once Hanmerstrike finished his little expositional opera. Definitely a great episode.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1654824)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 22nd, 2015 @ 7:12pm CST
Foxbear wrote:The "completely new character fresh from the Well" theory works best for Sidwswipe IMHO. Especially given how Bumblebee treats him like an impulsive young kid to be mentored.
Thing is, though, when it comes to how old a character behaves in relation to when they were "born", it doesn't always matter.

For instance, back when the Beast Wars cartoon introduced Tigatron (this was years before the "Dawn of Future's Past" retcon occurred), he was seemingly "born" from his stasis pod as an old man, much older in behavior than Cheetor, Rattrap, and possibly even Optimus. Yet, all three of the latter had all been online before Tigatron, making them all chronologically older than him, even if they all act younger than him.

Similarly, in Animated, Prowl was alive during the Great War, while Optimus wasn't yet born then. However, Prowl acts like a teenager both in the past and in the present, while Optimus is like a young adult despite having been born much later than Prowl.

And to use an example from the Aligned fiction, the young bot Orion Pax (reincarnated from Optimus Prime of the Thirteen) was born during the Age of Evolution when the very first bipedal humanoid Cybertronians emerged from the Well of All Sparks. Yet, the nameless bot who would come to call himself first Megatronus and then Megatron didn't emerge from the Well until a very LONG time later during the Age of Wrath. And like Tigatron in Beast Wars, he was born older in behavior than the chronologically far older Orion Pax.

So with Sideswipe still being a teen bot here, it's entirely possible that he didn't mature at all from his days fighting in the Great War and planet-hopping aboard the Ark, while Bee somehow did. Or at least, Bee matured way faster/Sideswipe matured much slower, somehow.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655126)
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 23rd, 2015 @ 12:31pm CST
I, for one, am changing my stance on the Decepticons. Not because the three we've been shown have exceeded my expectations, but it seems there might be a main cast of Decepticons after all. At least by the end of the first season, that is. I'm thinking that, as Steeljaw rallies his team, the bland and straightfoward characters are going to get captured and dealt with as mere plot devices rather than being of any individual use. And with this in mind, the characters that escape and join Steeljaw will continue through the series as the main group of antagonists we'll follow. Of course, I'm only basing this on the first three episodes. No idea if the other 10 that were leaked or whatever counter my theory.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655185)
Posted by psj333 on February 23rd, 2015 @ 2:53pm CST
On the TFWikipedia webssite, I've read the plot description, regarding on Episode #6, to which this is Thunderhoof's debut as an animated character. In the plot description, it has been confirmed that Thunderhoof's role is that of a crime boss, meaning that he might as well as a mob boss. It can also mean a leader of a terrorist organization. But is Thunderhoof more of a gangster or a terrorist? If he really is a gangster, will he have a Standard American accent for the American dub version, just like all of the characters are, or will he have a New York accent like of a Jewish American, since he's blue and that the Jews treat the color blue as their national symbol? :CON:
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655188)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 23rd, 2015 @ 2:59pm CST
psj333 wrote:On the TFWikipedia webssite, I've read the plot description, regarding on Episode #6, to which this is Thunderhoof's debut as an animated character. In the plot description, it has been confirmed that Thunderhoof's role is that of a crime boss, meaning that he might as well as a mob boss. It can also mean a leader of a terrorist organization. But is Thunderhoof more of a gangster or a terrorist? If he really is a gangster, will he have a Standard American accent for the American dub version, just like all of the characters are, or will he have a New York accent like of a Jewish American, since he's blue and that the Jews treat the color blue as their national symbol? :CON:
What makes you think anyone on here knows about something that hasn't aired in English yet? We can't give an answer because there is none to be given. We didn't make the show, so we know nothing of the character.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655215)
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 23rd, 2015 @ 4:18pm CST
psj333 wrote:On the TFWikipedia webssite, I've read the plot description, regarding on Episode #6, to which this is Thunderhoof's debut as an animated character. In the plot description, it has been confirmed that Thunderhoof's role is that of a crime boss, meaning that he might as well as a mob boss. It can also mean a leader of a terrorist organization. But is Thunderhoof more of a gangster or a terrorist? If he really is a gangster, will he have a Standard American accent for the American dub version, just like all of the characters are, or will he have a New York accent like of a Jewish American, since he's blue and that the Jews treat the color blue as their national symbol? :CON:


Thunderhoof sounds like this;

Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655227)
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 23rd, 2015 @ 4:40pm CST
psj333 wrote:On the TFWikipedia webssite, I've read the plot description, regarding on Episode #6, to which this is Thunderhoof's debut as an animated character. In the plot description, it has been confirmed that Thunderhoof's role is that of a crime boss, meaning that he might as well as a mob boss. It can also mean a leader of a terrorist organization. But is Thunderhoof more of a gangster or a terrorist? If he really is a gangster, will he have a Standard American accent for the American dub version, just like all of the characters are, or will he have a New York accent like of a Jewish American, since he's blue and that the Jews treat the color blue as their national symbol? :CON:


Look, we don't know. Yes, all the episodes have streamed in China, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE KNOW. All we know is what we've seen! And the plot in the Chinese series is not always the same in the american one, so there is no telling if it'll reflect it or not. So, even if he's a crime boss type in China, he might not be here. According to the story we know, he impersonates a local legend to create a cult that obeys him.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655256)
Posted by psj333 on February 23rd, 2015 @ 5:46pm CST
Madeus Prime, I didn`t say that Thunderhoof is exactly a crime boss and neither is 1905.com The only site that reports all of this is TFWiki.net.

And also, is Thunderhoof a total recreation of G1 Thundercracker, since that they're all have blue and red paint, and they both have the word, Thunder right at the first of their names? :CON:
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655289)
Posted by william-james88 on February 23rd, 2015 @ 6:57pm CST
psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, I didn`t say that Thunderhoof is exactly a crime boss and neither is 1905.com The only site that reports all of this is TFWiki.net.

And also, is Thunderhoof a total recreation of G1 Thundercracker, since that they're all have blue and red paint, and they both have the word, Thunder right at the first of their names? :CON:


I dont know much about the show, but I can tell you that thunderhoof is a new character and not a seeker type character.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655293)
Posted by Va'al on February 23rd, 2015 @ 7:05pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, I didn`t say that Thunderhoof is exactly a crime boss and neither is 1905.com The only site that reports all of this is TFWiki.net.

And also, is Thunderhoof a total recreation of G1 Thundercracker, since that they're all have blue and red paint, and they both have the word, Thunder right at the first of their names? :CON:


I dont know much about the show, but I can tell you that thunderhoof is a new character and not a seeker type character.


Don't you know Thundercracker is racist?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655302)
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 23rd, 2015 @ 7:31pm CST
psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, I didn`t say that Thunderhoof is exactly a crime boss and neither is 1905.com The only site that reports all of this is TFWiki.net.

And also, is Thunderhoof a total recreation of G1 Thundercracker, since that they're all have blue and red paint, and they both have the word, Thunder right at the first of their names? :CON:


Just because the wiki says something doesn't make it true.

And there is no connection between Thundercracker and Thunderhoof, completely separate characters.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655321)
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 23rd, 2015 @ 8:07pm CST
Madeus Prime wrote:
psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, I didn`t say that Thunderhoof is exactly a crime boss and neither is 1905.com The only site that reports all of this is TFWiki.net.

And also, is Thunderhoof a total recreation of G1 Thundercracker, since that they're all have blue and red paint, and they both have the word, Thunder right at the first of their names? :CON:


Just because the wiki says something doesn't make it true.

And there is no connection between Thundercracker and Thunderhoof, completely separate characters.


WTF is wrong with you people?! Thundercracker is Thunderhoof's second cousin's father's mother's sister's husband! We learned this on wikia 1 month ago!
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655325)
Posted by psj333 on February 23rd, 2015 @ 8:15pm CST
Madeus Prime, you're right. Thunderhoof and Thundercracker might might be considered separate characters, but the colors and their names are inspired to the original G1 character. Did you know that the Decepticon frog, Springload, was originally Springer? In G1, Springer was an Autobot. In this show, Springload is a Decepticon. Their names are quite similar, and so is their color schemes. From what we know, Springer was green and yellow, and so is Springload. The only difference is that Springload has some blue color scheme added to his appearance. Springload's appearance might be inspired by the original G1 Springer, but their roles are not. Just because a character gets recreated, that doesn't mean that they are the same. For example, the Grimlock that you saw from the show is not the one that you just saw in his previous incarnations. Unlike his previous incarnation, Grimlock has a brand-new color scheme, voice, speech, and personality, that completely inspired by Animated and Prime Bulkhead. This lead us to believe that he might be a complete successor to the original Bulkhead character. And the Sideswipe from RID is not the one from G1. Both are similar in appearance, but with two major differences. Unlike G1 Sideswipe, the RID Sideswipe is a punk, who loves to engage in a fight, but is kind to those that he loved the most. This personality is completely derived from Rodimus, who was then known as Hot Rod. This is something that the G1 Sideswipe don't have. :CON: :BOT:
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655338)
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 23rd, 2015 @ 8:46pm CST
psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, you're right. Thunderhoof and Thundercracker might might be considered separate characters, but the colors and their names are inspired to the original G1 character.


No, their colors are maybe in the same range, blues and greys, but otherwise they look, color wise, nothing alike:

Image
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psj333 wrote: Did you know that the Decepticon frog, Springload, was originally Springer? In G1, Springer was an Autobot. In this show, Springload is a Decepticon. Their names are quite similar, and so is their color schemes. From what we know, Springer was green and yellow, and so is Springload. The only difference is that Springload has some blue color scheme added to his appearance. Springload's appearance might be inspired by the original G1 Springer, but their roles are not.


And where did you get that from? If anybody inspired Springload, it would be this guy.

psj333 wrote:For example, the Grimlock that you saw from the show is not the one that you just saw in his previous incarnations. Unlike his previous incarnation, Grimlock has a brand-new color scheme, voice, speech, and personality, that completely inspired by Animated and Prime Bulkhead.

Actually, RID Grimlock is based, color wise at least, and possibly partially personality-wise inspired, by another RID Grimlock:

Image
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Pilot Review (1655357)
Posted by psj333 on February 23rd, 2015 @ 9:16pm CST
Madeus Prime, I forgot to mention that the Decepticon crab named Clampdown, originally started out as a G1 character that was exclusive to the 2003 comic book series as a young Autobot police officer on Earth. Unlike his RID self, G1 Clampdown is fully human-based. Only difference is their roles, alliances, and their appearances. The G1 Clampdown turns into a Lamborghini Countach, which was the same design used for G1 Sideswipe. On the other hand, the RID Clampdown actually turns into a boy racer coupe that is heavily based on a Ford Focus RS coupe. :BOT: :CON:

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