Ultra Magnus vs Galvatron Event this weekend for Transformers: Earth Wars Mobile Game

Burn wrote:Might be time to do some Alliance jumping!

Oh you're mean.. very very mean :p

ctrlFrequency wrote:

Burn wrote:Might be time to do some Alliance jumping!

Oh you're mean.. very very mean :p

It's very tempting

ctrlFrequency wrote:

Burn wrote:Might be time to do some Alliance jumping!

Oh you're mean.. very very mean :p

I'm quite serious actually.

See?

Burn wrote:

ctrlFrequency wrote:

Burn wrote:Might be time to do some Alliance jumping!

Oh you're mean.. very very mean :p

I'm quite serious actually.

I figured you were.

If that's what it takes, anyone who can, should. I'll hold down Fort Seibertron since I doubt any good alliances would take me anyway.

Insidious wrote:See?

I can't see anything lately... Dan old eyes :p

I am reminded of American sports stars; It don't matter so long as I get mine.

What good will alliance jumping do? Seibertron can easily get to 60k for the 2 star version, and the individual leaderboard rewards depend on your personal score. Is this because you don't want non-contributors getting Galvy?

Leader board is alliance scores. We won't as an alliance be able to score high enough for a 3*/4* Galvs. Not many alliances will.

Burn is thinking of jumping to get a better chance because he's frustrated about the under performance. I get that.

Sid thinks it's nieve to stand by your friends. I don't get that.

I hope Burn does stay, but he won't have top score if he does. I will take that. But if he does leave, he God damn better come back with a Shiney four star Galv.

Absolute Zero wrote:Burn is thinking of jumping to get a better chance because he's frustrated about the under performance. I get that.

Sid actually thinks the same thing. The rest is you editorializing, assuming and being a dick, as Burn said. So spare me the accusations of being the worst of humanity since it's obviously catching on.

I wasn't being a dick! I was being honest! We need more good full time members!

That's not all you need.

Points are points during an event. Anywhere you can get them is a good thing. These upper tier alliances seem to realize that. They're hopping all over.

That's why naive was the perfect word. You're being honest from your perspective, I'm being honest from mine.

It's amazing what can be justified when someone you like or know does something, if someone you don't like or don't know does the same thing, how quickly it can get demonized.

Oh well, as was said, what's done is done, I'm helping plenty of people. My conscience is clear.

Double post.*

I am not justifying anything. There are times when you just have to swallow your pride and support your friends.

Enough problems were caused by my error I trying to show you your value was far greater as one of us. So I'm shutting up and supporting Burn. I would gladly have supported you Sid if I had known what the hell was going on!

The simple fact is this.

My HQ is now level 13. Know how much upgrades cost? At least one resource (either energon or alloy) is near, or in excess of 2 million.

The only way to get that is to hit higher and higher zones. I can barely do that now. I need to upgrade bot abilities.

Know what I need for that?

Sparks.

While the prospect of getting a 3* (or possibly even but most likely not 4*) Galvatron is nice, I'm struggling at the moment to be able to upgrade things.

Call me selfish if you want, at this point, I honestly don't care.

Burn wrote:The simple fact is this.

My HQ is now level 13. Know how much upgrades cost? At least one resource (either energon or alloy) is near, or in excess of 2 million.

The only way to get that is to hit higher and higher zones. I can barely do that now. I need to upgrade bot abilities.

Know what I need for that?

Sparks.

While the prospect of getting a 3* (or possibly even but most likely not 4*) Galvatron is nice, I'm struggling at the moment to be able to upgrade things.

Call me selfish if you want, at this point, I honestly don't care.

Try this on my computer. Larger screen...

I don't think you're selfish, I think you're frustrated. I am in the same boat as a Bot only with a worse alliance, we can't handle bronze despite having a few people at HQ 12 and above. I also need sparks to contribute better in wars. I've been scraping by slowly upgrading guys. I don't have a full team at level 4 abilities yet. Though, if I could get a level 3 that wasn't Slipstream or gotten her within my first day like I did on Seibs II or as a bot I'd probably be better off. Neither here nor there. Do what you feel you need to do, I am just saying I will out score you in the event. I'm gonna try hard.

Insidious wrote:It's amazing what can be justified when someone you like or know does something, if someone you don't like or don't know does the same thing, how quickly it can get demonized.

Oh well, as was said, what's done is done, I'm helping plenty of people. My conscience is clear.

You're the one justifing things. Honestly, I wouldn't think you were a douche in need of being replaced if you had simply not said anything when you left the second time. But you had to be a dick about it and insult CF. The way I see it, you are part of the reason Burn is frustrated. But when you're told that you're needed, and you toss out "You're naive." And bail, you just make yourself a dick. And good for you! You're helping people! Hey, so am I! On 3 accounts! Do I deserve an award too? Obviously you think you do. 2k in the event, didn't help or harm us btw. Now, your 225 in a war, as CF said would be greatly helpful, that would have been. But, yeah, go you. You're helping people. Yay. Excuse me, I got to go help 2 other alliances on my other accounts now. *thumbs up*

You know what frustrates me the most? This back and forth that's going on. Sid left, get the **** over it already. He doesn't need to justify his actions to anyone, nor does anyone else if they choose to change Alliances.

To be perfectly honest, even if I had a good supply of sparks and resources, this garbage is enough to make me leave.

Ugh.

You kniw... I'm being pushed... AGAIN... to the point of being reactionary. I'm kind of tired of that.

So everyone shut the duck up. EVERYONE.

AZ is just frustrated. Happens. He's given a lot to the alliance in the short time he's been here.

We are all under stress over this and letting it ruin friendships.

Sid, you did what you did, great. Have fun with the new alliance. But I don't care what AZ did/is doing, but you aren't helping.

You can stop directing your little barbs at me. I'm tired of it. I dropped this whole damned thing and tried to smooth out sore feelings in the alliance, and you showed up again trying to dig into me and call me a hypocrite. I didn't say one bad thing to you prior to you calling me a dick. Then your little remarks about justifying. You've managed to undo all I tried to do, so back off.

Friendly reminder: a good chunk of these comments are showing up under the post that Burn newsed and the front page doesn't have a profanity filter installed.


Maybe we could steer things back towards the game itself, the pros and cons of the event, rather than bickering over departed members and making ourselves look bad to anybody who pokes their head in from the front page.

Yes, it does suck that only the top 80 alliances (roughly 320 players) are going to get 3*/4* Magnus or Galvy. But we already knew that the system for getting characters even above 1* was crap. You have a decent chance at a 2* from the free crystals, low chance of 3*, and practically nill chance of a 4*. Why? Because they want you to pay for those characters. They hook you with easy low level free play and then make it so you almost have to fork over real money once you've invested a lot of time and gotten interested in the game. At the end of the day, it's a game that's stacked to favor those who invest more money but you can get plenty of free entertainment out of it as well. Maybe you hit a glass ceiling in leveling up. So just keep attacking bases at a comfortable level and enjoy the new bots. Enjoy the game for what it's good at.

Also:

Burn wrote:My HQ is now level 13. Know how much upgrades cost? At least one resource (either energon or alloy) is near, or in excess of 2 million.

The only way to get that is to hit higher and higher zones.

This is not actually true. You could certainly get the necessary resources from your harvesters and hitting whatever zone you're comfortable in. It would take longer but it is, technically, possible.

Leave it to Bot to be level headed.

I apologize for language.

I apologize to you Burn for upsetting you. I feel bad about that. It was not my intention, and I am not upset about Sid or anyone leaving. If they feel they need to, then that's their right.

I go where I'm needed. Going seibs 2 showed me 1 thing. I need to improve. As long as it's allowed I will jump from alliance 1 to 2 if I'm needed. As long as Seibertron is winning, we all win. I felt like I was doing more harm than good in the gold wars barely managing 15 pts. I jump to seibs 2 and I'm reaching commanders and I feel like I'm contributing.


1 thing that is gonna kill this game is the rng. I have 2 3* characters and both times I've gotten a 3 star crystal I have gotten duplicates of those characters. In today's age that is gonna drive alot of potential players away. A smaller player base translates into mayhem attack squad being the only achive team.

So many little things bother me about this game but it's so much fun that I overlook them for now but down the road this games legs are gonna fall off. The wandering bot syndrome has to be addressed as well as the brackets for pvp attacks. I went into a 3000 match and the guy had level 1 mortars, no beam and 3k of each resource. Smells like pay to win is rearing its,ugly head.

Sin... AZ, Dizz, and I were discussing certain members of Seibs II (those of a certain level and track record) bouncing up to the main alliance for events.

Basically, we figure you and a few others would benefit more being with the main alliance for events. Seibs II isn't likely to do well in events regardless of who is there, at least at this point.

LiKwid wrote:I go where I'm needed. Going seibs 2 showed me 1 thing. I need to improve. As long as it's allowed I will jump from alliance 1 to 2 if I'm needed. As long as Seibertron is winning, we all win. I felt like I was doing more harm than good in the gold wars barely managing 15 pts. I jump to seibs 2 and I'm reaching commanders and I feel like I'm contributing.


1 thing that is gonna kill this game is the rng. I have 2 3* characters and both times I've gotten a 3 star crystal I have gotten duplicates of those characters. In today's age that is gonna drive alot of potential players away. A smaller player base translates into mayhem attack squad being the only achive team.

So many little things bother me about this game but it's so much fun that I overlook them for now but down the road this games legs are gonna fall off. The wandering bot syndrome has to be addressed as well as the brackets for pvp attacks. I went into a 3000 match and the guy had level 1 mortars, no beam and 3k of each resource. Smells like pay to win is rearing its,ugly head.

The RNG does leave a lot to be desired.

The 3k match seems to be a side effect of when they changed the zones. I don't know if it's a pay to win thing, but those under powered bases also are not awarding medals. It's been rare to get more than a handful from a win, but the ease of getting resources is nice.

On an unrelated note, I had typed up something to post bit ended up editing it out... so I will post it now.

Seibertron is an awesome alliance. I get to see a lot more than most people do since i'm one of the few privy to both the command and the member side of the alliance.

AZ and Dizz have stepped up and have worked so very hard make this alliance better. The amount of time they both spend working on both alliances (they run circles around me) is tremendous.

Dizz plays 'Bad Cop' so I don't have to in Seibs II as well as Main (he kicks everyone needing to be kicked )
AZ stepped up to be the commander, even though he wasn't sure he could at first.

We email constantly... and now Line chat... and never once have they teased me about my "reply all" button location problem... and consantly talk, plan, and work out details in game.

We have Bot to be the level headed voice of reason (He would be our compass in the storm).

And of course, Burn, our roadblock base.

There's an entire list of people who deserve praise. I don't want to leave anyone out, but Kurthy, Kurona, Galaxy, Nano, Arlo, SiameseDream, all do amazing jobs pulling in the points. We'very had so many go to help out Seibs II as well.

I really hate listing people because I always forget someone (we love you Shaun... even on vacation you've pulled your weight!) but I have really seen a lot of hard work.


We reorganized the entire alliance, and AZ and Dizz really came through on it. They've done a lot more than most people can see. So you have to understand why there's an emotional charge to this, there's been a lot of work to try to get us to the point where people are clamoring to get to us because we are a high performance alliance. We want to be able to hit Cybertronian League and finish way more than 10 prestige in an event.. or hit the top tier prizes.

We want to so it with you guys and ladies.

But I want to thank everyone, especially AZ, Dizz, and Bot.

The big alliances have started pulling in smaller ones and reorganizing them under the banner of 'so and so' family. I still haven't decided if this is good or bad... but I do know it makes it harder to find new members. That's why it is important to us to be able to offer gold/platinum league wars and top tier prizes. It was suggested to me in general chat the other night that we join one of these 'families ' otherwise we will die. I am not ready to suggest that yet, but I do know we need to work hard and appreciate everyone we have.

That Bot wrote:This is not actually true. You could certainly get the necessary resources from your harvesters and hitting whatever zone you're comfortable in. It would take longer but it is, technically, possible.

I could, and I do ... but again, 2 million. That's going to take a number of days to bank up. Not to mention the potential to lose resources when attacked.

Hey ppl... so im that noob that couldnt tell the difference between being lvl10 and having a lvl10 HQ, oops!

Anyhow just after a bit of clarification, is it only mortars that shoot over walls? Its a bit annoying that the game itself doesnt seem to provide any of this kind of relevant information.

On this basis, do you typically aet up your defences with walls further from your front line defences, or right infront of them?

Im relatively happy with my defences atm.. only really lost medals when attacked whilst mortars are upgrading, but if anyone has a second for a quick look at my base and correct anything obviously dumb, that would be great!

Finally, obviously trying to mess with AI is good and i have noticed people putting ie alloy storage out the front of their base. Is this worth it as by doing so you are giving the opponent more ability points?

Ta

Wtf.. tripple post???

Double post!

Everything can shoot over/through walls on defense. Only gunners can on attack (and abilities)

Can't we, like, get to 60,000 points before alliance jumping?

Kurona wrote:Can't we, like, get to 60,000 points before alliance jumping?

I'm with Kurona, I really think both Seib 1 and Seib 2 could get there. This is the first time that I have heard of alliance jumping. So, I wouldn't jump with out your permission.
For me I really think I fit in with Seib 2. It allowed me to fit with my pace of growth.
Just my two cents.

60000 would seem doable to me.. 3 days, 20 members, 1000 per member per day.. definitely achievable if people take part

I'm also very happy to jump down into Seibs 2 for a bit after Seibs 1 has got their Galvatron. Just to help you guys out if you have any spaces

Move quickly, only 20/40 spaces free!

Also, I can see in the Seibs 2 chat that you have an LINE chat group.
So, do I have to be invited to the group on there or friend bDizz and ctrlFreq?

LINE id: MXAGhost

My idea for suggesting the jump up for the event was to ensure people get their rewards. Last event I don't think we broke 30k.

*edit*

I also wanted those who'very slugged through crap in Seibs II to get rewards that make them better, then come back down after to the low stress group. I don't know if we can get Galvs in a day like with Scourge, but we also couldn't hit 80k in three days in the last one. So I want what is best for my people.

Hey Ghost, I can't find you on Line

Burn wrote:

That Bot wrote:This is not actually true. You could certainly get the necessary resources from your harvesters and hitting whatever zone you're comfortable in. It would take longer but it is, technically, possible.

I could, and I do ... but again, 2 million. That's going to take a number of days to bank up. Not to mention the potential to lose resources when attacked.

Yeah, Cons get attacked way more than Bots (doesn't Hasbro always say that Bots are more popular?). My HQ13 bot account gets attacked once every couple days, but my HQ12 con account gets attacked about every 7-8 hours. It gives me the opportunity to test out strategies on defense.

And this game is quickly proving that the most important assets are your base and spark. And like Burn said, he can't get enough resource in between attacks to get the resources he needs to upgrade his base because he doesn't have enough spark from war wins.

I'm seriously worried about how long it will take before people start getting frustrated with the games reward structure mixed with AI issues. Right now 4*s are around 100-1 odds on premium crystals with no guarantee you won't get a dupe even if you only have one 4*.

I also think the alliance heavy bent is going to drive a rift between daily players and hourly players. It would be nice if they spent a few weekends on individual events so that people could work as hard as they wanted to without letting down teammates.

By the way, CtrlF, you should recruit some new cons from that line chat group I added you to. AlwaysHostile doesn't have a con set up (well, not really) but there are quite a few with con accounts, plus the chat group is interalliance and there are quite a few Con only accounts in there.

I'd be happy to recruit AH. Freaking rock. I just don't do well recruiting people.

But umm... i do more stealing, we did grab the Bot commander from the last war. That'a the second time we stole a Bot from an alliance we Warren with.

ctrlFrequency wrote:I'd be happy to recruit AH. Freaking rock. I just don't do well recruiting people.

But umm... we did grab the Bot commander from the last war. That'a the second time we stole a Bot from an alliance we Warren with.

Well, you won't be getting AH accounts, you'll be getting Con smurf accounts from guys that are also in AH. I'll kick you out if you start trying to recruit Bots out of AH, sorry, sacrosanct.

Also, if you haven't used a promo code yet, hit up grimlock8u for one. You'll get some free premium crystals and a few resources (the resources aren't much for HQ12).

kurthy wrote:

ctrlFrequency wrote:I'd be happy to recruit AH. Freaking rock. I just don't do well recruiting people.

But umm... we did grab the Bot commander from the last war. That'a the second time we stole a Bot from an alliance we Warren with.

Well, you won't be getting AH accounts, you'll be getting Con smurf accounts from guys that are also in AH. I'll kick you out if you start trying to recruit Bots out of AH, sorry, sacrosanct.

That's what I meant. I would never recruit out, mostly because why on earth would they want to abandon high level accounts?

I already have and Jon3.0 got us some codes a while back. AZ could probably use one, but I think most of the rest have used one already

No worries, I just needed to make my position clear on the subject.

kurthy wrote:No worries, I just needed to make my position clear on the subject.

I got ya, I knew that'a what you meant.

Wait, what's this about codes for crystals? Off to Line! Lol

Absolute Zero wrote:Wait, what's this about codes for crystals? Off to Line! Lol

Yeah, Space Apes has a secret VIP club that you can't find out the requirements to get in, but they get free promo codes (you can only use one, period) and other freebies.

How do you use promo codes