Video Review of PE-11 Scouting Force X

Pre-order canceled!

Seibertron wrote:Pre-order canceled!

Why? What's wrong?

Lapse Of Reason wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Pre-order canceled!

Why? What's wrong?

Way too much money for something that small and unofficial. It's in scale with the rest of the Perfect Effect stuff, but it's not my cup of tea, especially for that kind of money.

Size really is their Achilles' heel. They're the Decepticon kids!

I've bought less for more, though. Plus, there's three of them.

To each their own. I'm not knockin' them, they're just not for me.

OK I admit the small size sucks. But they damn sure look good so Im glad I pre-ordered. Besides the TFC version is going to suck because they compromised too much G1-ness in robot mode to make him a more modern camera.

The TFC one(s) actually look rather nice to me. Ultimately we'll see which is the better toy, I guess. I wish the trend of people making the same things would stop, though. Arcee, the Autoscout, Nightbirs, the trailers, the Reflectors ... if everyone concentrated on different characetrs, we'd have many more products.

The smalless makes all TFC products iffy in my book. But I do like these guys for what they are. And I really think this set took some notes from FP's not-Bruticus.

Seibertron wrote:Pre-order canceled!

same here....90 bucks....I don't think so!!

Funny how these are over-priced, yet the TFCC Ramjet is cheap enough.
I'd like to reward PE for a job well done in original design. Fantastic accessories, BTW. Everything stores in alt mode. At the end of the day - this is what PE does stylistically - and in that perspective: completely succeeds. Here's hoping they keep the production run low as a nod to the rarity of its G1 counterpart.

Hope Masterpiece Megs can hold this guy...

Holy cow. I knew they would be small, but I had no idea . . . The original Reflector team towers over them. Maybe I can envision them as one pumped-up badass Minicon team.

Skyfire-5 wrote:Funny how these are over-priced, yet the TFCC Ramjet is cheap enough.
I'd like to reward PE for a job well done in original design. Fantastic accessories, BTW. Everything stores in alt mode. At the end of the day - this is what PE does stylistically - and in that perspective: completely succeeds. Here's hoping they keep the production run low as a nod to the rarity of its G1 counterpart.

Hope Masterpiece Megs can hold this guy...

It's $40 cheaper after shipping. It's an official exclusive limited edition Transformers toy from the official Transformers fan club which is officially supported by Hasbro. I'll take it in a heartbeat over an unofficial toy that costs $40 more.

I actually kind of like that they are this small. I just with their small scale translated into a small price. I'm really looking forward to these guys.

I still think they fit in with classics figures. Yeah, they're small but they are basically minions to fill the decepticon ranks and at least they are bigger than the PE Rumble/Frenzy figures.

They look amazing.

PE makes some of the best small figures out there. What they've done with the engineering in these things is awesome.

Perfect Effect IS expensive. No getting around that. But it's obvious with all of their stuff (Ratbat aside) that a LOT of engineering goes into these things.

And in the end...they're cheaper than a lot of Mini-Cons I lust after.

Seibertron wrote:It's $40 cheaper after shipping. It's an official exclusive limited edition Transformers toy from the official Transformers fan club which is officially supported by Hasbro. I'll take it in a heartbeat over an unofficial toy that costs $40 more.

Fair enough. $40 cheaper for a repaint of a mold that has been used frequently to say the least, is money well spent to some. While I don't harbor it, I can respect that POV. But to me, this "unofficial product" officially kicks ass in its originality.

Official vs unofficial doesn't even matter to me any more.

Not even in the slightest...

Everyone is making money, everyone is getting product, and we fight to get in line to pay for it.

I'll stick to getting what's best for me. It's the only voice I (we) have any more since voting with dollars does not work.

Counterpunch wrote:I'll stick to getting what's best for me. It's the only voice I (we) have any more since voting with dollars does not work.

There's a new wave of TF collectors coming back into the hobby. They have $ to burn. And that's good. I think it's about time for me to bow out of it. Wasteful spending in light of current events have become something I'm willing to alter in my lifestyle. I'll stick around for the banter here on Seibertron, but I really need to let these noobs have their "Games of Deception"s and "Shadow Scyther"s.

Skyfire-5 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:I'll stick to getting what's best for me. It's the only voice I (we) have any more since voting with dollars does not work.

There's a new wave of TF collectors coming back into the hobby. They have $ to burn. And that's good. I think it's about time for me to bow out of it. Wasteful spending in light of current events have become something I'm willing to alter in my lifestyle. I'll stick around for the banter here on Seibertron, but I really need to let these noobs have their "Games of Deception"s and "Shadow Scyther"s.

What does that mean?

Counterpunch wrote:What does that mean?

I mean that no matter how you "vote"; vocally @ cons, spending habits, or through forums like these - there will continue to be an audience that is willing to spend ever increasing amounts of money. Voting with dollars is kind of irrelevant... there's fans and non fans of Animated, Beast Wars, and Armada Trilogy. They all made money. Voting with dollars has saved only one line (at least in my flawed memory): Classics (the ultimate fans choice line).

On topic: I thought it was relevant to say this set is special because it is my last Transformers purchase in light of personal growth. It's been a fun ride, but as some will learn, it's an addiction of fantastic compulsion. You'll spend money on Games of Deception only to be pie-in-the-face'd by a Takara a la mode. They'll deal with retailers with psuedo limited supplies only to uncover a greed fueled business practice. Forgive me, but I enjoy the over reactions (nerd rage), the innuendo, the dumb jokes, and the over all Ass-Shenaneganry

Not to attack you but I find it hard to accept your "personal growth" when most of what I've seen posted by you in recent weeks is borderline textbook trolling. So forgive us if we don't quite buy it. If you feel you've been pied in the face over figures, that's your choice to feel that way. It certainly isn't the truth of the matter though. The Botcon figures are exclusive in their way as are the Henkei releases and Hasbro releases. Feeling butthurt about it doesn't get you anything and certainly doesn't attest to personal growth. It's sort of like saying you hate the Twilight franchise and then explaining why you've seen all the movies. Just an example, no intended offense in it.

These guys look pretty nice. Smaller than I'd really like but I do like them. More than the other offering so that is. If I can find these at Botcon, I'll pick em up.