Vince DiCola's The Transformers 1986 Score Official Release by Intrada / Sony
Wednesday, October 9th, 2013 8:39AM CDT
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* FINALLY... My Transformers score will be released in a few months by Intrada/Sony!!!
This will be the first 'official' release of the collection and I'm so excited to finally have the opportunity to inform my fans that this is actually happening! Obviously it took a very long time to reach this point, but hey... Good things take time, right?!
When I have a definite release date I'll post it here, so stay tuned. Thanks to Doug and all the good folks at Intrada and Sony for making this happen!
Best, Vince
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2013 @ 8:42am CDT
Posted by Rated X on October 9th, 2013 @ 9:49am CDT
Posted by Va'al on October 9th, 2013 @ 10:03am CDT
Rated X wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but exactly what is it that's being released ? I got a copy of the 1986 movie on DVD and soundtrack on MP3, so I'm not sure what this guys trying to say he is releasing...
My Transformers score will be released in a few months by Intrada/Sony!!!
It's the score for the film. What was released previously was the soundtrack, i.e. the songs, with lyrics and all, by different artists. This is DiCola's instrumental background music to the film.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 9th, 2013 @ 10:14am CDT
The cuts are all Vince's full-length pieces, meaning there's quite a bit that didn't end up in the film, most notably "Attack on the Shuttle" (replaced by "Instruments of Destruction") and what's essentially a slowed-down instrumental version of "Dare to be Stupid" replaced by an encore of the actual song for the Junkion dance number. There was another from BotCon 2001 that was all the score cut exactly as heard in the film, which I foolishly ignored, so I'd actually be happier if that's what Sony's releasing. The '97 version would probably be better for those who missed out on all the BotCon CDs, though.
Or hell, maybe it'll have both, like some of those Dario Argento film scores from about 13 years ago.
Posted by Rated X on October 9th, 2013 @ 11:54am CDT
Va'al wrote:Rated X wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but exactly what is it that's being released ? I got a copy of the 1986 movie on DVD and soundtrack on MP3, so I'm not sure what this guys trying to say he is releasing...My Transformers score will be released in a few months by Intrada/Sony!!!
It's the score for the film. What was released previously was the soundtrack, i.e. the songs, with lyrics and all, by different artists. This is DiCola's instrumental background music to the film.
Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...
Posted by Mkall on October 9th, 2013 @ 12:55pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...
Dictionary.com wrote:15. Music.
a written or printed piece of music with all the vocal and instrumental parts arranged on staves, one under the other.
b. the music itself.
c. the music played as background to or part of a movie, play, or television presentation.
Posted by Rated X on October 9th, 2013 @ 1:12pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Rated X wrote:Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...Dictionary.com wrote:15. Music.
a written or printed piece of music with all the vocal and instrumental parts arranged on staves, one under the other.
b. the music itself.
c. the music played as background to or part of a movie, play, or television presentation.
Gotcha
The term "score" isnt really used alot in the hip hop music industry. The term "track" would be the equivalent when referring to instrumentals with their respective lyrics muted.
Posted by Marcdachamp on October 9th, 2013 @ 1:56pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...
How DARE you?
Posted by bionic_radical on October 9th, 2013 @ 2:33pm CDT
Posted by YRQRM0 on October 9th, 2013 @ 2:51pm CDT
Posted by craggy on October 9th, 2013 @ 3:08pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Va'al wrote:Rated X wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but exactly what is it that's being released ? I got a copy of the 1986 movie on DVD and soundtrack on MP3, so I'm not sure what this guys trying to say he is releasing...My Transformers score will be released in a few months by Intrada/Sony!!!
It's the score for the film. What was released previously was the soundtrack, i.e. the songs, with lyrics and all, by different artists. This is DiCola's instrumental background music to the film.
Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...
not sure if trolling, or just X as usual. not sure if there's a difference.
Posted by Rated X on October 9th, 2013 @ 4:04pm CDT
craggy wrote:Very excited to hear this news.Rated X wrote:Va'al wrote:Rated X wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but exactly what is it that's being released ? I got a copy of the 1986 movie on DVD and soundtrack on MP3, so I'm not sure what this guys trying to say he is releasing...My Transformers score will be released in a few months by Intrada/Sony!!!
It's the score for the film. What was released previously was the soundtrack, i.e. the songs, with lyrics and all, by different artists. This is DiCola's instrumental background music to the film.
Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...
not sure if trolling, or just X as usual. not sure if there's a difference.
Alot of Miami Bass music from the late 80's and 90's uses elements of rock music in the sampling. Listen to some old 2 Live Crew stuff. I used to do DJ mixing and produce hip hop beats strictly as a hobby, so I could make it work if I had the "score" lol. If rap music wasnt shunned by so many Transformers collectors, you wouldnt consider my comment possible trolling. But Im not mad at cha
Posted by KnightStrike on October 9th, 2013 @ 4:09pm CDT
Posted by craggy on October 9th, 2013 @ 8:23pm CDT
Rated X wrote:craggy wrote:Very excited to hear this news.Rated X wrote:Va'al wrote:Rated X wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but exactly what is it that's being released ? I got a copy of the 1986 movie on DVD and soundtrack on MP3, so I'm not sure what this guys trying to say he is releasing...My Transformers score will be released in a few months by Intrada/Sony!!!
It's the score for the film. What was released previously was the soundtrack, i.e. the songs, with lyrics and all, by different artists. This is DiCola's instrumental background music to the film.
Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...
not sure if trolling, or just X as usual. not sure if there's a difference.
Alot of Miami Bass music from the late 80's and 90's uses elements of rock music in the sampling. Listen to some old 2 Live Crew stuff. I used to do DJ mixing and produce hip hop beats strictly as a hobby, so I could make it work if I had the "score" lol. If rap music wasnt shunned by so many Transformers collectors, you wouldnt consider my comment possible trolling. But Im not mad at cha
you misunderstand, I'm not hating on any type of music, just amazed that someone who, it seems from your comments, is interested in making music, hasn't heard use of the word score in relation to film before.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2013 @ 11:19pm CDT
A "track" what the score would be divided into on a CD. Like, each individual "song" or "piece" of the score would be considered a "track". Kinda like a "chapter" on a DVD.Rated X wrote:The term "score" isnt really used alot in the hip hop music industry. The term "track" would be the equivalent when referring to instrumentals with their respective lyrics muted.
Posted by Dead Metal on October 10th, 2013 @ 9:55am CDT
Rated X wrote:Mkall wrote:Rated X wrote:Ive never heard the term "Score" used when referring to instrumentals. I take it this is some kind of movie producer jargon ? Anyways the soundtrack brings back fond memories. It would be great to have instrumental versions of any of the songs without the annoying rock lyrics. Maybe I could even sample in some Miami style bass drums and give it some quad. Ill be looking for this CD...Dictionary.com wrote:15. Music.
a written or printed piece of music with all the vocal and instrumental parts arranged on staves, one under the other.
b. the music itself.
c. the music played as background to or part of a movie, play, or television presentation.
Gotcha
The term "score" isnt really used alot in the hip hop music industry. The term "track" would be the equivalent when referring to instrumentals with their respective lyrics muted.
Nope in the Hip-Hop music industry a score is still a score, RZA for instance writes scores.
A score is all of the music tracks that are made for a movie, or video game, so it's like an album, if the album where made to be used in a movie or game.
Posted by gothsaurus on October 10th, 2013 @ 10:41am CDT
Mind you, it was interesting getting the different version and additional songs. Part of me hopes this new version might come with new or rare bonus tracks, but then I'd really prefer not to buy the same material again.
If you enjoy the 80s soundtrack — including Vince and Stan Bush's music — I'd also recommend the Botcon exclusive "Till All Are One - Call to Action." The two got together again to pen some new songs, and it's surprisingly consistent with the movie music, IMHO.
Posted by Judge Deliberata on October 10th, 2013 @ 11:39pm CDT
-That there's a physical release and this isn't just digital
-That it isn't 'remastered' to make it unbearably loud like half of everything released these days is
-That there's a good chunk of bonus material (Hey, an extra Protoform sessions CD couldn't hurt )
Posted by gothsaurus on October 11th, 2013 @ 9:20am CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 11th, 2013 @ 11:31am CDT
While some tracks have extra seconds cut out to fit the film, Autobot/Decpticon Battle was the opposite, in that it starts to fade out just as Blaster ejects his cassettes, meaning we lose a few seconds that were in the film under the cassette brawl just to make the original soundtrack a little smoother. Now, maybe they restored that on the Botcon 2001 CD that's supposed to exactly match the cuts in the Movie, which I'm again kicking myself for passing up. Would that happen to be the playlist you have?gothsaurus wrote:I have one fairly close, but I know there are probably a few songs out of place. (Plus I know a few weren't actually used in the film. I think Autobot/Decep Battle was one of those.)
Posted by gothsaurus on October 11th, 2013 @ 12:18pm CDT
I think you're right about the placement of that Autobot/Decep Battle song. If no one chimes in with a "perfect" playlist, I'll add mine below.
Posted by Judge Deliberata on October 12th, 2013 @ 10:40pm CDT
Unicron's Theme
The Transformers Theme - Lion
2005
More Luck Than You Imagine
Instruments of Destruction - N.R.G
Gone Fishin'
Dare - Stan Bush
Autobot/Decepticon Battle
City Under Siege
The Touch - Stan Bush
Showdown
Death of Optimus Prime
Witness to a Funeral
Contest for Leadership
Transformation
Coronation
Destruction of Moon Base One
Destruction of Moon Base Two (Part 1)
Destruction of Moon Base Two (Part 2)
Escape
Pursuit
Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way - Kick Axe (Spectre General)
Arrival On Junk
Unwelcome Visitors
An Unexpected Friend
The Matrix Survives
Ambush
Another Leader Dies
Hunger - Kick Axe (Spectre General)
Rescue
All Hope is Lost
Dare To Be Stupid - Weird Al Yankovic
Unusual Allies
The Enemy Revealed
Confrontation
United Against The Enemy
In the Belly Of The Monster
Their Darkest Hour
The Touch - Stan Bush
The Transformers Theme - Lion (Yes, I actually put both in twice )
Extras:
Legacy
The Transformers (Alternate Version) - Stan Bush/Vince DiCola
Attack On The Shuttle (unused)
Megatron Must be Stopped, Pt. 1 & 2
Moon Base 2 - Shuttle Launch
Unicron Medley
Unicron's Theme (Darkest Hour remix) - Mnemento
Posted by Burn on October 13th, 2013 @ 12:38am CDT
Posted by RhA on October 13th, 2013 @ 7:25am CDT
Judge Deliberata wrote:The Transformers Theme - Lion (Yes, I actually put both in twice )
Because it's awesome.
Posted by KnightStrike on October 13th, 2013 @ 8:02am CDT
Burn wrote:A double CD set with the score and the soundtrack would be a nice 30th anniversary set.
That would be amazing! I got the soundtrack on cassette as a kid, picked it up again on CD as a Scotti Bros. release a few years later, picked up the Volcano CD re-release, and then picked up the 20th anniversary edition. What this basically means is I am a sucker for any release of this they want to give us I hope we get more info and a release date soon.
Posted by Va'al on January 7th, 2014 @ 6:58am CST
Original soundtrack from initial big-screen animated treatment of The Transformers, numerous iconic battling robot characters spawned from Hasbro television mini-series that became wildly popular in subsequent syndication.
Posted by Reximus Prime on January 7th, 2014 @ 7:20am CST
Posted by Va'al on January 7th, 2014 @ 7:24am CST
Reximus Prime wrote:Dangit... I saw this hadn't been posted yet... and submitted it as news, and while I spell checked my submission... it was posted. Oh, well. At least everyone knows!
Hah! Bad timing.
Just replied to your email, thanks again for the heads up.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 7th, 2014 @ 7:35am CST
Posted by TransBat on January 7th, 2014 @ 8:05am CST
Posted by T-Macksimus on January 7th, 2014 @ 8:11am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Kinda wish this also contained the lyrical songs from the movie as well, placed in between the appropriate tracks here, but still love that this actually (and finally) happened.
That would actually be pretty cool. Just ran a few scenes through my head and now I'm thinking that picking up this and making my own compilation CD with the other tracks inserted into their proper places ("Dare" right after track 4, "Hunger" after track 18 etc...) would really kick serious butt.
Brilliant idea you have there Sabrblade.
Posted by Dead Metal on January 7th, 2014 @ 8:48am CST
Posted by SkyWarpsGhost on January 7th, 2014 @ 9:08am CST
Posted by gothsaurus on January 7th, 2014 @ 9:38am CST
Posted by ScottyP on January 7th, 2014 @ 10:46am CST
Posted by morphobots on January 7th, 2014 @ 12:32pm CST
T-Macksimus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Kinda wish this also contained the lyrical songs from the movie as well, placed in between the appropriate tracks here, but still love that this actually (and finally) happened.
That would actually be pretty cool. Just ran a few scenes through my head and now I'm thinking that picking up this and making my own compilation CD with the other tracks inserted into their proper places ("Dare" right after track 4, "Hunger" after track 18 etc...) would really kick serious butt.
Brilliant idea you have there Sabrblade.
It sounds great once you've done it. I used the BotCon '97 CD years ago for just such a thing. Even inserted "Dare" twice so it would recreate the movie faithfully.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 7th, 2014 @ 1:24pm CST
Posted by gothsaurus on January 7th, 2014 @ 2:15pm CST
Did the same for the leftover bonus material as well (non movie score tracks, Botcon songs, even a couple of passable tracks from Stan and NRG.) May have to do a little digging in the Kick Axe (aka Spectre General) catalog for song that could fit as TF:TM b-sides.
Also been trying to assemble a playlist in order of all the G1 music tracks that have cropped up in the past. Tough trying to do it from memory. If anyone has any leads of more of that stuff, shoot me a PM.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 7th, 2014 @ 11:55pm CST
this was already released then
Posted by SkyWarpsGhost on January 8th, 2014 @ 7:04am CST
Posted by Cyber Bishop on January 8th, 2014 @ 7:49am CST
Posted by shin_hibiki on January 8th, 2014 @ 10:33pm CST
gothsaurus wrote:Can someone do a comparison with the Botcon version(s). Are there any different tracks? Has it been remastered or compressed, etc.? Thanks!
Based on the track listing posted, I see a few differences from the BotCon releases. One, they renamed most of the tracks. (Even the three BotCon versions did that a little bit, but it's much more extensive here.) Two, there are fewer tracks, so at least some of the earlier tracks were combined. Three, based on the total track lengths, there appears to be about 1:26 missing relative to the earlier releases. Hard to know more than that until we have the actual disc in hand. I'll still buy it, though I suspect it will be inferior somehow, due to the merged tracks if nothing else.
Posted by Citizen Quintesson on January 10th, 2014 @ 12:35am CST
Posted by shin_hibiki on January 11th, 2014 @ 12:43am CST
EDIT: If it seems like I'm talking to myself, the post to which I was replying seems to have disappeared while I was replying to it.
Posted by KnightStrike on January 11th, 2014 @ 6:59am CST