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An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro

Transformers News: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro

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2021 was a big year for Hasbro's mecha toylines. The ever growing Transformers toylines gave us a lot of product (Kingdom, Studio Series, Cyberverse, MP, MPM, Shaterred Glass, Netflix, Buzzworthy Bumblebee, Rescue Bots, Generations Selects, Crossover) and Hasbro finally released the first Power Rangers zords developed under John Warden, the man who got the Transformers brand where it is now. For those curious as to how Hasbro's other transforming/combining robot themed toyline went, we have an update.

For a quick recap of the Power Ranges toyline, when it first got to North American shores, the toys were based on the same toys previously sold in Japan and as time went on, there were more and more differences between the Japanese version of toys (done by Bandai) and the American version (done by Bandai of America). It wasn't like with Transformers where the Takara version would have a slightly different deco, it was far more extensive. For the past 10 years at least, the toys in Japan for the same mecha were bigger and had electronics. To sell at a lower price point, Bandai of America would literally make a new mold, usually smaller and with less parts. There was even one time in Power Rangers Samurai, where the Japanese version of the 5 animal combiner had 3 modes (limb mode, animal mode, and geometric shape mode) and the American version scrapped the shape mode for 4/5 animals, which made it look ridiculous (Japanese on the left, American on the right).

Transformers News: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro

Transformers News: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro

Now when Hasbro bought the brand, they would do the same, remake new molds for their Power Ranger toyline and hired John Warden as the head of the design team to make these new molds. The first toyline fully developed under John Warden was Dino Fury and fans finally got to experience the zords in the later half of 2021.

And it turns out that for the first time in the history of the brand, the American versions are on par with the Japanese version, or even preferred by fans. While still a toyline for kids, Hasbro went for a more collector oriented mindset in what they favoured. It did not have electronics, and the zords are slightly smaller, but they have more articulation than their Japanese counterparts and the main zord has better proportions, a more detailed sculpt and greater show accuracy. Yes, the American version of the toy is more show accurate. It is also more dynamic and works well as a mecha action figure rather than being a brick (which all Power Ranger/Super Sentai mecha were in the past). So congrats to John Warden and his team on that, it is no small feat (Hasbro on the left, Bandai on the right).

Transformers News: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro

Of course, it does help that Hasbro's mecha came out well after the original series aired in Japan, so they could replicate any show detail the original Japanese toys didn't have. Also, Hasbro's combining system for the zords is not as kid friendly as the Japanese version since it requires more force to connect and disconnect. The original Japanese toys had ports similar to lego bricks with similar ease of building but that also means connections on the Hasbro versions are tighter and less likely to undo while posing the figure (something the Japanese toys never had to worry about). So far, 5 zords have been released with more on the way in 2022, and all can combine together in various ways. Below is an example of combining 4 of them together along with using an extra head that comes with the villain action figure.

Transformers News: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro

What does have to do with both is Hasbro upcoming collector oriented Megazord line. This is the stuff of dreams. It's basically Hasbro creating a Masterpiece Megazord line (something similar to Soul of Chogokin) in the west. The price is along those MP level prices of course, being $165 USD for the original Dino Megazord.

Transformers News: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro

This has a lot of fans excited, not just for this release but for what they will do next. Although the fan enthusiasm for the black repaint was not great, since that purchase was behind an NFT wall.

And now you are all caught up.

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Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124446)
Posted by Quantum Surge on December 31st, 2021 @ 8:48pm CST
While John Warden didn't design the mainline MMPR Megazord or the Beast-X Zords, they had some improvements from the Bandai Japan versions with a few hinderences here and there.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124447)
Posted by kurthy on December 31st, 2021 @ 9:01pm CST
Yep, got more articulation and extra pieces which are really nice for making combos. That said, the plastic used is also completely different and very noticeable in hand. And the metallic highlights make it look so much nicer on the shelf. My kids like the Hasbro ones more just because they move around more and have more combos.
Disappointed that they're not doing pachygaroo which is the funnest zord out of the 11.

The samurai turtle zord only got a third mode because all the moving parts were required to do the other two modes.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124450)
Posted by Emerje on December 31st, 2021 @ 9:06pm CST
Any word yet on how tall the new Dino Megazord is? I want it, but I don't want to pay $170 for it if it's a shrimp. Just telling us the scale is basically telling us nothing.

Emerje
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124454)
Posted by kurthy on December 31st, 2021 @ 9:30pm CST
11.5 inches based on the 2nd picture on Hasbro pulse.
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Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124456)
Posted by william-james88 on December 31st, 2021 @ 9:55pm CST
Emerje wrote:Just telling us the scale is basically telling us nothing.



Haha, lol, yeah. 1\144 scale for something that doesn't exist and only ever used made up buildings and sets in its surrounding.

But wow, thanks Kurthy, 11.5 inches is pretty damn big.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124458)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 31st, 2021 @ 10:05pm CST
Taking a tape measure to some of my Legacy Megazords, 11.5 inches will put it at about an inch taller than the 2010/Legacy Dino Megazord and just a smidge shorter than the Legacy Thunder Megazord.

I never owned the original 1993 MMPR Megazord (though a friend lent me his for a time, so I did get to play with it), but looking at comparison pics of it with the 2010 one, it's a bit bigger, so this new Hasbro Megazord looks to be about the same height as the original 1993 MMPR mold/1992 Zyuranger Daijujin mold.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124467)
Posted by william-james88 on December 31st, 2021 @ 11:36pm CST
Now, I know that the articulation on Hasbro's Donufury Megazord would not impress anyone accustomed to what we get from transformers but just to understand how revolutionary it is, check out this fan's excitement as he plays with this new megazord at the 12 minute mark

Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124478)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 1st, 2022 @ 3:01am CST
While I haven't bought any of the new zords from the shows, I have dabbled in the new Power Rangers line here and there. I even bought that Amazon-exclusive Dino Megazord set. With that said I really would've liked to have seen Hasbro work with Bandai Japan on designs and releases. Perhaps we could've seen vintage reissues of some of the older Sentai mechs that never saw the day here. Maybe G1 Jetfire.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124482)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 1st, 2022 @ 7:47am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Maybe G1 Jetfire.
Not as long as Harmony Gold still holds on to Robotech.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124483)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 1st, 2022 @ 7:50am CST
Sabrblade wrote:[quote="chuckdawg1999"Maybe G1 Jetfire.
Not as long as Harmony Gold still holds on to Robotech.[/quote]
They'll never let go of that golden goose.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124486)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 1st, 2022 @ 6:35pm CST
I'm genuinely glad that power ranger fans are so happy with hasbro's new offerings. They honestly deserve better than the garbage the previous brand owner had been putting out.

I ordered the masterpiece megazord, but I hope Warden puts out a wider and cheaper selection of fully poseable zords, I can't and won't pay $180 for each megazord they put out. But I would pay about $15-20 per zord for a "deluxe" megazord
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124489)
Posted by Emerje on January 1st, 2022 @ 9:22pm CST
At 11.5" definitely feels like a decent price, I doubt Hasbro could do a Combiner Wars style set at that price these days (it's roughly less than what Legacy Menasor will cost).

If this really is Hasbro's take on PR Masterpieces then I'd like to think the prices will not be normalized the same way they aren't in TR Masterpiece. For example the Thunder Megazord isn't all that complicated, it really should cost less, while the Ninja Megazord is roughly as complicated as the Dino Megazord so should be about the same price, but more if they include the Falconzord (and they should). Dragonzord will probably be the same price as the Dino Megazord since despite being shorter it's a chunky bot with a big tail and lots of moving parts.

Emerje
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124490)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 1st, 2022 @ 9:36pm CST
Emerje wrote:At 11.5" definitely feels like a decent price, I doubt Hasbro could do a Combiner Wars style set at that price these days (it's roughly less than what Legacy Menasor will cost).

If this really is Hasbro's take on PR Masterpieces then I'd like to think the prices will not be normalized the same way they aren't in TR Masterpiece. For example the Thunder Megazord isn't all that complicated, it really should cost less, while the Ninja Megazord is roughly as complicated as the Dino Megazord so should be about the same price, but more if they include the Falconzord (and they should). Dragonzord will probably be the same price as the Dino Megazord since despite being shorter it's a chunky bot with a big tail and lots of moving parts.

Emerje

I don't see why not, megazords are a mainstay of power rangers, and the zords themselves are exceptionally simpler than any tf so I think they could easily introduce a range of zords that approximate tfs, maybe not in volume but there's a lot of material to work from.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124506)
Posted by King Kuuga on January 2nd, 2022 @ 2:53am CST
I have mostly shifted my collecting over to the Minipla/Super Minipla/Shokugan Modeling Project series, because I will no longer stand for brick zords, plus they take up significantly less space. However I admire what they've done with the Dino Fury zords and I came very close to pulling the plug on them the other day after passing them in stores repeatedly. The one thing that stopped me was that I hadn't seen the Black and Blue zord set for a while and I was afraid it would be hard to find. The store I was at only had the Red t-rex and the green/pink zord sets. It's all or nothing so I went with nothing. Then the next day I saw some of the black/blue set at another store. Oh well. I'll grab them soon enough.


Emerje wrote:If this really is Hasbro's take on PR Masterpieces then I'd like to think the prices will not be normalized the same way they aren't in TR Masterpiece. For example the Thunder Megazord isn't all that complicated, it really should cost less

I adamantly object to the notion that the Thunder Megazord is less complicated than the Megazords on either side of it, especially if we're going to give it decent articulation. There's a reason it's usually significantly more expensive than other Megazords. The red dragon has to transform from the dragon mode to the human mode and be articulated in that form. So ankles, knees, hips, waist, shoulders, elbows, wrists, and neck. All of that is on top of the joints needed to transform it between dragon and warrior modes, although some of those transformation joints do work as articulation on the robot.

On all iterations of Dairenoh/Thunder Megazord so far (BOJ, BOA, Legacy, and Artisan), only the shoulders, elbows, and neck have had articulation. Making the dragon into a decently articulated figure on its own shouldn't pose much of a challenge, but then you stack the armor on for the megazord mode and you have parts bumping into parts. Typically you rotate the inner robot's legs sideways to insert them into the leg components in order to space the legs out more in combined mode. If they did that then they have to add additional knee joints on the side of the inner robot's legs for the combined form. You also need a way to have the thigh covers stay attached to the legs when it poses and they need to be able to go where the legs go. The firebird/houou forms waist armor, which can get in the way of articulation. The lion/shishi needs a way to accommodate the waist articulation, since the head forms the codpiece. So you're either looking at a complex swivel mechanic or the head portion detaches from the chest armor. Lastly, the fists of the inner robot slot into the elbow joints of the combined robot, so most likely they'd have to redesign that attachment method a bit to give the megazord elbows. Meanwhile the main concerns that the Dino Megazord have are adding knees and elbows, which are pretty easy to squeeze in. Everything else boils down to a little more articulation on the existing joints. There's a reason that Bandai Shokugan hasn't tackled this in their Shokugan Modeling Project line yet, because to pull off this design with their standard of articulation while also being reasonably affordable would take a lot of black magic. There is a non-transforming figure of the Thunder Megazord coming out soon that poses like a dream in ways that I don't think any transforming/combining version would ever be able to replicate because of the intricacies of its design.


Emerje wrote:while the Ninja Megazord is roughly as complicated as the Dino Megazord so should be about the same price, but more if they include the Falconzord (and they should).

If anything the Ninja Megazord is simpler, even when you look into adding articulation. The frog forms the entire lower half of the robot, and the frog legs already have to bend a whole bunch for transformation, so that's pretty much set. Allow for a swivel joint on the waist instead of multi-point attachment so it can rotate, engineer some outward swing in the shoulders and add some elbows to the ape and wolf.

A possible shogun megazord is where things will get interesting, as trying to fit hip and knee articulation into that thing proved to be a challenge on the Super Minipla that they weren't able to fully overcome. Also each zord needs to be fairly articulated on their own, at least basic action figure level. Separate legs, knees, hips, shouders, elbows.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124511)
Posted by Emerje on January 2nd, 2022 @ 4:30am CST
I'm looking at it in terms of parts count and articulation. With the Thunder Megazord the only articulated thing in the box is the Red Dragon Thunderzord, everything else is his vaguely animal shaped armor parts. They just snap onto the Dragon's bot mode, there's no real transformation to form the Thunder Megazord like there is to form the Dino Megazord. Unlike the Sabretooth Tiger Zord there's no way to add more articulation to the rest of the Assault Team aside from maybe ankle tilts for the leg parts. In my eyes there's no real comparison between the two that would make them equal priced, even though I'm sure they will be.

The Ninja Megazord can add articulation to every Zord in the set, finish what the Legacy version started.

Emerje
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124525)
Posted by TulioDude on January 2nd, 2022 @ 12:27pm CST
I like this comparison video,made by the channel powerangertube:

Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124534)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 2nd, 2022 @ 4:36pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999"Maybe G1 Jetfire.
Not as long as Harmony Gold still holds on to Robotech.

They'll never let go of that golden goose.[/quote]

I know, I know. I just need to hear it often.

[quote="Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm genuinely glad that power ranger fans are so happy with hasbro's new offerings. They honestly deserve better than the garbage the previous brand owner had been putting out.

I ordered the masterpiece megazord, but I hope Warden puts out a wider and cheaper selection of fully poseable zords, I can't and won't pay $180 for each megazord they put out. But I would pay about $15-20 per zord for a "deluxe" megazord


A couple of years ago they did a Dino Megazord that was all plastic and I think smaller than this. Amazon had a box set of all the Zords that I think you can still find. I'm not sure how well it sold since there hasn't been a Dragonzord or any other Zord released.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124539)
Posted by william-james88 on January 2nd, 2022 @ 5:11pm CST
While I like the Dinofyry Megazord, I am rather underwhelmed by it's 5 knights (ultimate) mode. It just feels so Top heavy, nothing in the lower half if the body changes.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2124569)
Posted by william-james88 on January 2nd, 2022 @ 10:08pm CST
kurthy wrote:Disappointed that they're not doing pachygaroo which is the funnest zord out of the 11.


How do we know they won't be making it?
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2146037)
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2022 @ 11:14pm CDT
Couple things as I've been kinda getting back into Power Rangers, but I'm really only interested in Zords.

First I finally got around to shipping my ZAP Dino Megazord in my Pile of Loot from BBTS (had to pay $31 in sales tax, there's a ton of stuff in this order). I know the reviews aren't amazing compared to Bandai's best offering, but I found a lot of the complaints to be very nitpicky and there was a number of things that some reviewers really liked so I'm looking forward finally having it in hand. Yes I have the Dragonzord on pre-order and no the size doesn't bother me. Also ordered the Astro Megazord today. Power Rangers in Space was when I stopped watching the series regularly and wasn't really buying many Zords so I don't have any real attachment to this one, but it looks fun and seeing it on display towering over the Dino Megazord at the same price really sold me on it. I just like the idea of a bunch of giant Zords and Megazords on a shelf so I'll probably buy all of them regardless. Would have preferred they went in order, but whatever, they're all good. I would guess the Delta Megazord is next or coming along pretty soon.

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The other thing I've been buying is the Don Brothers DX "Zords". Don Onitaijin is a ridiculously fun and had some unprecedented articulation. Better hip joints and a flexible skirt would have been nice, but otherwise it's really cool! Also got Toradragonjin which is also very cool though not as articulated as the Onitaijin, the Don Robogoku (the gold dragon) is ridiculously long while the Don Robobolt (the purple tiger) is just short of having it's own bot mode, he even has a whole bot head of his own that gets mostly covered to form Toradragonjin. Combining Don Onitaijin with Don Robogoku and Don Robobolt results in your typical "Megazord" brick tower with no articulation, but it sure looks impressive .

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Neither of these guys came with any paperwork or instructions so that was fun. Spent a lot of time looking over the box and working out their combinations that way. No idea what's coming next, if anything. I doubt I'll be getting the Don ZenkaiOh, it's just a carry over from the previous series and I didn't like those much.

Emerje
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2146038)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 30th, 2022 @ 11:19pm CDT
I really wanted to try out some of those Don Bros figures but just can't invest in them now.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2146046)
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2022 @ 12:35am CDT
Are the Don Bro digures new, Emerje? I have no clue what they are.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2146047)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 1st, 2022 @ 12:46am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Are the Don Bro digures new, Emerje? I have no clue what they are.
Donbrothers is the most recent Super Sentai series.

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Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2146051)
Posted by Emerje on October 1st, 2022 @ 1:36am CDT
Yeah, what he said. I don't care enough about the show to get into it, but I love the bots, all based on various Japanese legends and myths. And as a big fan of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann where half the bots where big pointed sunglasses it was love at first sight! (Pun intended.) And Gurren Lagann is getting its own sentai style combining robot toy in a few months from Good Smile Company.

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Super expensive, but I can't wait to get that!

Emerje
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2148986)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2022 @ 9:49am CST
While I have owned super sentai toys before, I never owned a super sentai toy ater having experience it's Bandai of America iteration first. AND WOW. My son wanted Ninninger Mecha for christmas and I found that tose were the same price online on the secondary market as the BOA version (the main mechas/megazords are $50 shipped in box whichever version).

I'll be honest, I didn't think $50 could get you this good a toy these days. That main Ninninger DX mech is really gorgeous. Well painted, the plastic feels solid, there are a bunch of extra mechanisms for tight connections. It just feels really good, and I can't believe Japan would go the distance for what is still very much a child's toy down there. My kid will be really happy come christmas
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2152867)
Posted by Roadbuster on January 2nd, 2023 @ 7:38pm CST
Just a rumor but would not be surprising if this happens given it will have been 30 years since MMPR debut on Fox Kids in the states.

https://toynewsi.com/278-45650

Price will supposedly be $33 so they may be putting more into these versions of the figures, likely going for better likenesses, painting in more details, possibly some additional accessories. At this point, it's a wait and see. I'd get them, just to pose them with the Power Blaster and Green Ranger off to the side.
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Posted by Emerje on October 8th, 2023 @ 2:21pm CDT
This is neat, Bandai is going back and doing a DX version of Kyoryuzin (Dino Charge Megazord) that's mostly articulated at 15 POA. And it can be combined with parts of King-Ohger to form King Kyoryuzin (apparently in an upcoming episode). Ended up ordering one from Amazon Japan for around $104 shipped (compared to BBTS at $120)

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Emerje
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2171482)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 8th, 2023 @ 10:43pm CDT
They're doing a lot of special releases for the 10th anniversary, was the Sentai that popular?
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Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2023 @ 11:10pm CDT
Wow, thanks for the heads up Emerge!
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Posted by Emerje on October 9th, 2023 @ 6:19am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:They're doing a lot of special releases for the 10th anniversary, was the Sentai that popular?

I think Dinosaurs are always popular. ;)

Emerje
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 9th, 2023 @ 6:12pm CDT
Did anybody get the master morpher? I heard there are hidden voice clips of JDF telling jokes.
Re: An Update on John Warden's Latest Mecha Endeavours at Hasbro (2172064)
Posted by Emerje on October 13th, 2023 @ 11:28pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Did anybody get the master morpher? I heard there are hidden voice clips of JDF telling jokes.

I typically don't do role play toys.

Emerje

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