BotCon 2012 Exclusive Gigatron Head Shot (Update: More Images Added Including Alt Mode)
Tuesday, December 27th, 2011 5:47PM CST
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Posted by Mkall on December 27th, 2011 @ 6:03pm CST
Looks like it's the handpainted model though.
Posted by Skullcrunchberries on December 27th, 2011 @ 6:04pm CST
Tidalwavex wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Hoitytoity wrote:I'm... genuinely surprised. I never thought they'd use a movie mold; wasn't there supposed to be some copyright issues with that?
Any non-licensed vehicle mode is fair game.
Just to add to this,also any movie verse toy that didn;t appear in the movie "might" be fair game & can be used as a botcon convention/club toy.
Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks :3
Posted by MGrotusque on December 27th, 2011 @ 6:21pm CST
Seriously.....it's garbage. I can't ever suspend disbelief enough to ever think that this is or ever could be Overlord/Gigatron.
Like others have said. Looks like i'll have to hope for a third party to make a proper Gigatron.
Lord knows Hasbro can't figure it out. Lazy bastards.
Posted by dedcat on December 27th, 2011 @ 6:41pm CST
Posted by ShardFenix on December 27th, 2011 @ 7:02pm CST
Posted by bvzxa on December 27th, 2011 @ 7:45pm CST
There is no "tron" anywhere, it's just Giga (tank), Mega (jet), merge into Overlord. I like it and I don't like it. This is as bad as making Galvatron from Evac/Blades. For once make a real toy with limited numbers. I have a feeling the door prize will be Mega "not tron" maybe?.
Wow they released pics this early which means the Botcon staff has been lurking amid speculation.
Posted by Down_Shift on December 27th, 2011 @ 7:55pm CST
El Duque wrote:Wonder how Hasbro's all new original mold for 2013 Overlord will look compared to this? (sarcasm)
I hear you on that. We should be getting word on our new classics 2012 Stunticons while we're at Botcon too!
Now that I see the face up close I don't like it. It has that traditional Botcon eyes look I'm not really fond of. The tank mode however it perfect.
Posted by bvzxa on December 27th, 2011 @ 7:58pm CST
Down_Shift wrote:El Duque wrote:Wonder how Hasbro's all new original mold for 2013 Overlord will look compared to this? (sarcasm)
I hear you on that. We should be getting word on our new classics 2012 Stunticons while we're at Botcon too!
Now that I see the face up close I don't like it. It has that traditional Botcon eyes look I'm not really fond of. The tank mode however it perfect.
Yeah I see what you mean with the eyes. They could have gave him a little more neck coz his head just looks like he's all head and shoulders.
Posted by Down_Shift on December 27th, 2011 @ 8:00pm CST
bvzxa wrote:While the homage is ok using the Bludgeon/BanzaiTron mold, this is really just Giga. Why they put "tron" at the end to confuse people I don't know because Giga"tron" was Megatron's name in CarRobots/RID.
There is no "tron" anywhere, it's just Giga (tank), Mega (jet), merge into Overlord. I like it and I don't like it. This is as bad as making Galvatron from Evac/Blades. For once make a real toy with limited numbers. I have a feeling the door prize will be Mega "not tron" maybe?.
Wow they released pics this early which means the Botcon staff has been lurking amid speculation.
Fun Fact:
Takara "Super Collection Figure" Overlord = Hasbro "Heros Of Cybertron" Gigatron.
They're the same dude.
Posted by Down_Shift on December 27th, 2011 @ 8:01pm CST
bvzxa wrote:Down_Shift wrote:El Duque wrote:Wonder how Hasbro's all new original mold for 2013 Overlord will look compared to this? (sarcasm)
I hear you on that. We should be getting word on our new classics 2012 Stunticons while we're at Botcon too!
Now that I see the face up close I don't like it. It has that traditional Botcon eyes look I'm not really fond of. The tank mode however it perfect.
Yeah I see what you mean with the eyes. They could have gave him a little more neck coz his head just looks like he's all head and shoulders.
I think it was Botcon Scourge that had it bad too. Made me really back away from it. Nightbeat too I think.
Posted by Burn on December 27th, 2011 @ 8:23pm CST
But the new pics ... at first I wasn't impressed with the head. Then I saw the head with the rest of the body and got less impressed, then I saw the alt mode.
Yeah ... so glad I stopped caring about BotCon figures the first year FunPub took over.
Posted by Mindmaster on December 27th, 2011 @ 9:27pm CST
Posted by dinogeist on December 27th, 2011 @ 9:30pm CST
Burn wrote:Starscream and Grimlock made him look good.
But the new pics ... at first I wasn't impressed with the head. Then I saw the head with the rest of the body and got less impressed, then I saw the alt mode.
Yeah ... so glad I stopped caring about BotCon figures the first year FunPub took over.
I second this...
I for the most part don't care for thus don't buy any botcon convention/club toys.
To me their just glorified repaints of molds I already have.
The only two botcon toys I thought looked decent thus bought was Cyclonus using the beastmachines ultra sized jetstorm toy mold. Deathauras using the Rid megatron 6 changer toy mold.
BTW,I just got off work,I saw the bot pics of botcon 2011 Gigatron earlier today. I didn't realize they released tank mode pics today. I guess i'll check out the tank mode pics of gigatron in a few minutes.
Lastly,why I love the HFTD Bludgeon toy mold. and I love the masterforce overlord character & 1988 toy. I think using the hftd bludgeon mold for 1988 overlord/gigatron was a awful choice. IMHO,Animated blitzwing would have been the better mold to use for overlord/gigatron. as animated blitzwing has a jet & tank mode. I also think energon voyager jetfire & voyager cliffjumper would have made decent overlord toys. all that needed to be done to energon cliffjumper is swap out the top alt mode pieces for tank turrent pieces.
Posted by gavinfuzzy on December 27th, 2011 @ 9:42pm CST
Dr. Heavy B wrote:IMLTHO the samari theme of bludgeon dosn't fit overlord well.
besides, didn't they say "NO" to movie-verse figures?
It's Neo-G1, cause bludgeon never appeared in the "main" movie toyline... He came out in the NEST subline. He never made it to the movie either... so i guess he's an exception.
Posted by gavinfuzzy on December 27th, 2011 @ 9:46pm CST
Mkall wrote:It's a nice figure, but IMO it's not the Overlord I was hoping for. Sadly I guess I'll have to wait for an eventual 3rd party to make a proper one.
HOWEVER! I'm surprised it hasn't been thought of yet; has anyone considered that a plane homaging Overlord's plane half might be one of the attendee-only figures?
Oh if that is, im completely not buying the boxset. I cannot attend the con and im not going for the Iacon pack just to realise they ripped me off Overlord's other half.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 27th, 2011 @ 9:49pm CST
monstergrotusque wrote:Whoa!! That is ridiculous! What a crappy halfassed effort on Hasbro's part.
Not really fair to blame Hasbro for this, they had nothing to do with it. Hasbro made the mold for Bludgeon which worked like a charm. This is all pretty much Fun Pub.
Posted by MGrotusque on December 27th, 2011 @ 10:12pm CST
LOST Cybertronian wrote:monstergrotusque wrote:Whoa!! That is ridiculous! What a crappy halfassed effort on Hasbro's part.
Not really fair to blame Hasbro for this, they had nothing to do with it. Hasbro made the mold for Bludgeon which worked like a charm. This is all pretty much Fun Pub.
Fair enough. I stand corrected.
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on December 27th, 2011 @ 10:30pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on December 27th, 2011 @ 10:35pm CST
Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$
now, that mold is not even close.
Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?
Posted by synthetik on December 27th, 2011 @ 10:52pm CST
Posted by ILL-Star on December 27th, 2011 @ 10:59pm CST
Posted by ShadowGinrai on December 27th, 2011 @ 11:01pm CST
Posted by No One on December 27th, 2011 @ 11:27pm CST
Noideaforaname wrote:Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$
now, that mold is not even close.
Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?
Posted by No One on December 27th, 2011 @ 11:29pm CST
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$
now, that mold is not even close.
Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?
FUNCTION: SELF CONTAINED NOMADIC ASSAULT MACHINE
“I stand my ground. I have conquered EVERY challenge. I hunger for conflict without end”.
A legendary force of inorganic nature, he emerges as the new and deadly Ambassador Of Destruction, a Decepticon ANTI-HERO. Enemies tremble at mere whispers of his existence. This Transector has Autobots guessing as he downgrades himself to standard Earth sized vehicles. Weary of battles unchallenged and searching for new ways to prove himself in combat, Overlord sets Mega & Giga free, foregoing his Godmaster multiple functions activated by them while in engine mode. No location is too remote; no terrain is too tough for this megalithic power-monger as he transforms into BOTH a Gigatank to steamroll a path ahead, and a Megajet for C-SAC duty (Carrier, Spy, & Air Combat). Carries an infra-red heat seeking laser canon, ready for all-out war!
Posted by Anonymous on December 27th, 2011 @ 11:43pm CST
Noideaforaname wrote:Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?
PCC with hand picked drones, homage color guide, and remolding in the right places... this given the stipulation of no Cybertron Leader Megs (which is a shame).
Posted by El Duque on December 27th, 2011 @ 11:48pm CST
Their robot modes share some of the same design elements as well. Let's take it from the top:
- paint the tips of the two triangular wing tips that rise behind his shoulders purple to homage the OL's purple shoulder cones
- put the newly molded head on
- light grey arms with black hands
- make his two landing gear chest flaps grey just like OL's
- main torso dark blue
- each side of the abdomen dark grey to homage his pop out weapons
- waist black
- top section of his thighs dark grey
- thigh area just above the knee dark blue
- lower legs teal
- feet purple
Other design similarities: OL carries the forward section of his jet alt mode on his arm, Silverbolt carries the forward section of his jet mode on his back. The little mini-wings on Silverbolt's shoulders resemble OL's open chest flaps. Even the guns somewhat similar, just make Silverbolt's purple with a black missile.
Plus he's an Ultra Class figure that turns into a tall robot, and they've used Ultra Class figures in the boxset before. If I had any photshop skills I would put this all together.
Posted by dinogeist on December 27th, 2011 @ 11:55pm CST
MR Optimus Prime wrote:MR Optimus Prime wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$
now, that mold is not even close.
Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?
FUNCTION: SELF CONTAINED NOMADIC ASSAULT MACHINE
“I stand my ground. I have conquered EVERY challenge. I hunger for conflict without end”.
A legendary force of inorganic nature, he emerges as the new and deadly Ambassador Of Destruction, a Decepticon ANTI-HERO. Enemies tremble at mere whispers of his existence. This Transector has Autobots guessing as he downgrades himself to standard Earth sized vehicles. Weary of battles unchallenged and searching for new ways to prove himself in combat, Overlord sets Mega & Giga free, foregoing his Godmaster multiple functions activated by them while in engine mode. No location is too remote; no terrain is too tough for this megalithic power-monger as he transforms into BOTH a Gigatank to steamroll a path ahead, and a Megajet for C-SAC duty (Carrier, Spy, & Air Combat). Carries an infra-red heat seeking laser canon, ready for all-out war!
I think everyone was asking the question of a previous TF toy released from under 5 years ago.
Honestly if we've got to dig all the way back to 1987 to get the duocons molds for a botcon 2012 overlord. Then we might as well just dig back to 1988 & get the original masterforce 1988 overlord toy mold,recolor it in slightly more cartoon accurate colors & release it as a botcon 2012 TF toy.
RANDOM SIDE NOTE: I'm hoping this botcon 2012 overlord/gigatron toy generates enough interest to convince hasbro/takara to create a masterpiece or leader sized new mold overlord/gigatron toy. i'm also hoping this botcon 2012 gigatron toy generates enough interest to convince a few 3rd party toy companies to create a proper G-1 styled overlord leader sized toy,with two voyager sized vechicles,a jet & tank merging to form a leader sized robot mode.
Posted by No One on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:05am CST
Honestly if we've got to dig all the way back to 1987 to get the duocons molds for a botcon 2012 overlord. Then we might as well just dig back to 1988 & get the original masterforce 1988 overlord toy mold,recolor it in slightly more cartoon accurate colors & release it as a botcon 2012 TF toy.
Yeah but I still think it would be a neat CHEAP way to have him. I think the Bludgeon mold is still okay though.
Posted by No One on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:12am CST
Yeah and it's JUST enough of a brick to hail back to G1. Maybe some paint chest apps to homage Giga and Mega.
Posted by NOS on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:41am CST
Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.
Triple changer, menacing robot mode...
Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.
Posted by El Duque on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:46am CST
NOS wrote:*sigh* No...
Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.
Triple changer, menacing robot mode...
Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.
That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.
Posted by Thrust222 on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:47am CST
Posted by NOS on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:50am CST
El Duque wrote:NOS wrote:*sigh* No...
Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.
Triple changer, menacing robot mode...
Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.
That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.
R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...
Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.
Posted by Blurrz on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:56am CST
Posted by El Duque on December 28th, 2011 @ 12:59am CST
NOS wrote:El Duque wrote:NOS wrote:*sigh* No...
Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.
Triple changer, menacing robot mode...
Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.
That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.
R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...
Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.
I have to disagree about the size. I have both figure and Cybertron Megatron is significantly larger than BotCon Deathsaurus.
Posted by RhA on December 28th, 2011 @ 1:29am CST
El Duque wrote:NOS wrote:El Duque wrote:NOS wrote:*sigh* No...
Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.
Triple changer, menacing robot mode...
Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.
That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.
R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...
Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.
I have to disagree about the size. I have both figure and Cybertron Megatron is significantly larger than BotCon Deathsaurus.
EXTREMELY roughly.
Posted by Nekoman on December 28th, 2011 @ 1:52am CST
I feel like the TFC does this a lot, aim too high and end up producing a figure that doesn't live up to it's namesake. The samurai motif just doesn't blend with this character. The head sculpt looks decent at best too.
Posted by C - 310 on December 28th, 2011 @ 2:10am CST
I really feels like they dump down overlord ALOT in order to 'fit' it to this mode. He wasn't even a "melee" character originally. Also the head looks like a bootlegger from China molded it.
C'mon hasbro, for 3 or 4 times it's retail price, you can't make a new mold for once for exclusive to be worth it?
Posted by NOS on December 28th, 2011 @ 2:21am CST
RhA wrote:El Duque wrote:NOS wrote:El Duque wrote:NOS wrote:*sigh* No...
Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.
Triple changer, menacing robot mode...
Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.
That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.
R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...
Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.
I have to disagree about the size. I have both figure and Cybertron Megatron is significantly larger than BotCon Deathsaurus.
EXTREMELY roughly.
Never actually owned the figure so I suppose my estimations must be pretty far off. Still, that's the only current mold I could see that would do Overlord / Gigatron any justice.
Guess I'll keep dreaming. ^^;
Posted by scypris115 on December 28th, 2011 @ 2:41am CST
Posted by Blurrz on December 28th, 2011 @ 2:54am CST
scypris115 wrote:Wow... that figure sucks.. Id buy that piece of crap mold for 5 bucks.. They can keep the change too.. looks more like an autobot..
Bludgeon was one of the best figures of 2010, one of the best designed not-in-the-movie movie characters, one of the best homages ever made, and a marvel in Transformers engineering. So, $5? Well, can't expect much when your favorite toy is something that hasn't even been released yet.
Posted by Matrix_Holder on December 28th, 2011 @ 2:59am CST
Posted by Blurrz on December 28th, 2011 @ 3:03am CST
Matrix_Holder wrote: Tidal Wave would have been the perfect choice for this character.
Indeed;
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ord/20386/
Posted by Dead Metal on December 28th, 2011 @ 3:04am CST
El Duque wrote:My mold choice would have been Universe Silverbolt, no matter what you're only going to homage one of Overlord's vehicle modes so I would have went for the jet. Silverbolt's alt mode and Overlord's jet component already share similar alt modes. In the case of Skyfall below just make the thrusters grey and ditch the red add some purple.
Their robot modes share some of the same design elements as well. Let's take it from the top:
- paint the tips of the two triangular wing tips that rise behind his shoulders purple to homage the OL's purple shoulder cones
- put the newly molded head on
- light grey arms with black hands
- make his two landing gear chest flaps grey just like OL's
- main torso dark blue
- each side of the abdomen dark grey to homage his pop out weapons
- waist black
- top section of his thighs dark grey
- thigh area just above the knee dark blue
- lower legs teal
- feet purple
Other design similarities: OL carries the forward section of his jet alt mode on his arm, Silverbolt carries the forward section of his jet mode on his back. The little mini-wings on Silverbolt's shoulders resemble OL's open chest flaps. Even the guns somewhat similar, just make Silverbolt's purple with a black missile.
Plus he's an Ultra Class figure that turns into a tall robot, and they've used Ultra Class figures in the boxset before. If I had any photshop skills I would put this all together.
I second this, but would add a little more.
Remold the figure slightly so that you can remove the robot from the plane (which works, the robot-mode is literately screwed onto the plane) and then give him a few tank treads and attach the gun as a turret for a kinda tank mode.
Posted by scypris115 on December 28th, 2011 @ 3:35am CST
scypris115 wrote:Blurrz wrote:Wow... that figure sucks.. Id buy that piece of crap mold for 5 bucks.. They can keep the change too.. looks more like an autobot..
Bludgeon was one of the best figures of 2010, one of the best designed not-in-the-movie movie characters, one of the best homages ever made, and a marvel in Transformers engineering. So, $5? Well, can't expect much when your favorite toy is something that hasn't even been released yet.
Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on December 28th, 2011 @ 4:20am CST
scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah
Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you.
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are.
Posted by scypris115 on December 28th, 2011 @ 5:04am CST
cannonfodder4000 wrote:scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah
Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you.
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are.
Yeah I am... so what if I like Que (Wheeljack) better then Bludgeon thats not the point..I could care less for Bludgeon or for that matter this overpriced repaint... yeah Im not gonna pay for this when I can get the original mold for a lower price, Im not much of a repaint fan, a little bit..If you like him thats fine but I think they should of used a different mold.. why use a movieverse character? It just seems odd to me..
Posted by dinogeist on December 28th, 2011 @ 5:52am CST
Posted by Rated X on December 28th, 2011 @ 6:26am CST
scypris115 wrote:cannonfodder4000 wrote:scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah
Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you.
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are.
Yeah I am... so what if I like Que (Wheeljack) better then Bludgeon thats not the point..I could care less for Bludgeon or for that matter this overpriced repaint... yeah Im not gonna pay for this when I can get the original mold for a lower price, Im not much of a repaint fan, a little bit..If you like him thats fine but I think they should of used a different mold.. why use a movieverse character? It just seems odd to me..
Are you serious ??? This thing ???
Posted by Dead Metal on December 28th, 2011 @ 7:10am CST
scypris115 wrote:cannonfodder4000 wrote:scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah
Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you.
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are.
Yeah I am... so what if I like Que (Wheeljack) better then Bludgeon thats not the point..I could care less for Bludgeon or for that matter this overpriced repaint... yeah Im not gonna pay for this when I can get the original mold for a lower price, Im not much of a repaint fan, a little bit..If you like him thats fine but I think they should of used a different mold.. why use a movieverse character? It just seems odd to me..
Because he isn't really a Movieverse chracter, the toy was originally designed to be Classics Bludgeon for Universe.
Also Que's head looks more like a skull than Bludgeon's.