BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Tank Mode Revealed

It's nice that they're giving Strika a back story. But though she is technically good in G1, after Animated, I'm having a hard time seeing her as an Autobot.

ILL-Star wrote:It's nice that they're giving Strika a back story. But though she is technically good in G1, after Animated, I'm having a hard time seeing her as an Autobot.

We're talking G1, not Animated. Different universe completely. Ever watched Beast Machines? It's -that- Strika.

Jelze put it quite succinctly. "As BM Thrust said to her, if you're loyal to everyone, you're loyal to nobody." Strika and Obsidian dedicated their lives to protecting Cybertron, not to any one faction. They simply sided with whatever side had the best interests of the planet as a whole in mind. Obviously, that means Autobots/Maximals pre and post-Beast Machines, and Vehicons during BM.

RAcast wrote:

ILL-Star wrote:It's nice that they're giving Strika a back story. But though she is technically good in G1, after Animated, I'm having a hard time seeing her as an Autobot.

We're talking G1, not Animated. Different universe completely. Ever watched Beast Machines? It's -that- Strika.

That's not his point. He means after watching Animated, he finds it hard to picture Strika as a good guy gal. Kind of like after the movies, I find it hard to picture an Autobot team without Bumblebee. That doesn't merit a "have you ever watched Armada."

In other words, no kidding we're talking G1. His post proves that he couldn't care less.

Wow - gee. Strika's robot mode (which looks just like Warpath) has an ALT mode that looks.... just like Warpath's alt mode!

Seriously - what's all this 'Strika Tank Mode... REVEALED!!!!' nonsense? Like we didn't know that the alt mode was going to look exactly like Warpath, only with different colors?

PrymeStriker wrote:

RAcast wrote:

ILL-Star wrote:It's nice that they're giving Strika a back story. But though she is technically good in G1, after Animated, I'm having a hard time seeing her as an Autobot.

We're talking G1, not Animated. Different universe completely. Ever watched Beast Machines? It's -that- Strika.

That's not his point. He means after watching Animated, he finds it hard to picture Strika as a good guy gal. Kind of like after the movies, I find it hard to picture an Autobot team without Bumblebee. That doesn't merit a "have you ever watched Armada."

In other words, no kidding we're talking G1. His post proves that he couldn't care less.

*shrug* It's a different continuity. I guess I just don't have any issues separating apples and oranges. They're two entirely different characters with similar names and designs (and perhaps personalities, I've never bothered much with Animated, can't stand the designs), and that's about where it ends in my head.

Beast Machines isnt G1 and this figure isnt pink. Just slap a con reprolabel over that Funpub misjudgement and call it a day. And somebody hit the Funpub guy over the head with the gavel !

Rated X wrote:Beast Machines isnt G1 and this figure isnt pink. Just slap a con reprolabel over that Funpub misjudgement and call it a day. And somebody hit the Funpub guy over the head with the gavel !

Your replies are always good for a chuckle, thanks man.

Rated X wrote:Beast Machines isnt G1

Right. Beast Machines is part of G1.

Beast Wars' characters are from the future, after the events of G1, and then they get stuck in the past before the events of G1. Did you watch "The Agenda," when they visit the Ark and there's a bunch of references to what happened in G1, like how they'll wake up in 1984.

And Beast Machines is the sequel to Beast Wars. You could make the connection now.

Shockwave7 wrote:Wow - gee. Strika's robot mode (which looks just like Warpath) has an ALT mode that looks.... just like Warpath's alt mode!

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Seriously - what's all this 'Strika Tank Mode... REVEALED!!!!' nonsense? Like we didn't know that the alt mode was going to look exactly like Warpath, only with different colors?

Last I checked, there wasn't much emphasis on "Revealed".

Maybe some of us didn't know exactly how she would look like in vehicle mode. It's just like getting images of another repaint (using IDW Megatron for a possible Dreadwing, for example).

Shockwave7 wrote:Wow - gee. Strika's robot mode (which looks just like Warpath) has an ALT mode that looks.... just like Warpath's alt mode!

We couldn't see Strika's Autobot symbol from her robot mode. The tank revealed that. Take that as a reason we should have seen her tank mode.

Mindmaster wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:Wow - gee. Strika's robot mode (which looks just like Warpath) has an ALT mode that looks.... just like Warpath's alt mode!

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Mmm. Sarcasm against sarcasm is entertaining indeed.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:Wow - gee. Strika's robot mode (which looks just like Warpath) has an ALT mode that looks.... just like Warpath's alt mode!

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Mmm. Sarcasm against sarcasm is entertaining indeed.

Sarcasmception.

A terrible digibash is just what I'd expect from FunPub.

Am I the only one here who have never watched BM/BW?

Also, just wait for a 3rd party company to do up a new head... And you have Impactor!

gavinfuzzy wrote:Am I the only one here who have never watched BM/BW?

PrymeStriker wrote:

Rated X wrote:Beast Machines isnt G1

Right. Beast Machines is part of G1.

Beast Wars' characters are from the future, after the events of G1, and then they get stuck in the past before the events of G1. Did you watch "The Agenda," when they visit the Ark and there's a bunch of references to what happened in G1, like how they'll wake up in 1984.

And Beast Machines is the sequel to Beast Wars. You could make the connection now.

Depends on what you mean by G1. The name originally referred only to the toys produced between 84 and 91 (the "first generation" of figures), and not the fiction. Under that interpretation Strika is definitely not G1.

However, Beast Wars and G1 do exist in the same continuity (*if* you are talking about the Sunbow Cartoon). So, Strika is not a G1 figure, but she does exist in *some* G1 continuities.

F Prime wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Rated X wrote:Beast Machines isnt G1

Right. Beast Machines is part of G1.

Beast Wars' characters are from the future, after the events of G1, and then they get stuck in the past before the events of G1. Did you watch "The Agenda," when they visit the Ark and there's a bunch of references to what happened in G1, like how they'll wake up in 1984.

And Beast Machines is the sequel to Beast Wars. You could make the connection now.

Depends on what you mean by G1. The name originally referred only to the toys produced between 84 and 91 (the "first generation" of figures), and not the fiction. Under that interpretation Strika is definitely not G1.

However, Beast Wars and G1 do exist in the same continuity (*if* you are talking about the Sunbow Cartoon). So, Strika is not a G1 figure, but she does exist in *some* G1 continuities.

That's odd, I have always associated the term "G1" to both the original toyline and the timeline set in the sunbow cartoon.

I see what you are saying though, your separating them by toyline, like how armada is a separate toyline/story from energon, but both occur in the same continuity.

Strika was in the g1 cartoon briefly though. She was a very...ahem...bulky lass, but more pink.

reluttr wrote:That's odd, I have always associated the term "G1" to both the original toyline and the timeline set in the sunbow cartoon.

I see what you are saying though, your separating them by toyline, like how armada is a separate toyline/story from energon, but both occur in the same continuity.

Strika was in the g1 cartoon briefly though. She was a very...ahem...bulky lass, but more pink.

Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.

I thought we were referring to the purple, visored one to the pink's right.

Don't forget guys that this is set in the Wings Universe, which itself is meant to be an alternate universe take on the G1 cartoon continuity. So even if one were to think that the G1 cartoon took place in the same timeline as the BM cartoon, this story wouldn't be set in that same timeline.

Rated X wrote:Beast Machines isnt G1 and this figure isnt pink.

BM Stika wasn't pink, she was dark purple:

Mkall wrote:Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.

The wings Universe text story "Flames of Yesterday" did the retcon (and the teal bot next to her was made into Glyph).

But, this is the first that I've heard of it ever being fan speculation. Did that originate from the ATT days?

Mkall wrote:

reluttr wrote:That's odd, I have always associated the term "G1" to both the original toyline and the timeline set in the sunbow cartoon.

I see what you are saying though, your separating them by toyline, like how armada is a separate toyline/story from energon, but both occur in the same continuity.

Strika was in the g1 cartoon briefly though. She was a very...ahem...bulky lass, but more pink.

Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.

Ehh... no idea, I am just going off what I read on the TFWiki page.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Strika_%28BM%29

Mkall wrote:

reluttr wrote:That's odd, I have always associated the term "G1" to both the original toyline and the timeline set in the sunbow cartoon.

I see what you are saying though, your separating them by toyline, like how armada is a separate toyline/story from energon, but both occur in the same continuity.

Strika was in the g1 cartoon briefly though. She was a very...ahem...bulky lass, but more pink.

Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.

Ask FunPub, they retconned this lady into Strika for their Wings Universe.

I already gave an answer to his question, guys:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mkall wrote:Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.

The Wings Universe text story "Flames of Yesterday" did the retcon (and the teal bot next to her was made into Glyph).

But, this is the first that I've heard of it ever being fan speculation. Did that originate from the ATT days?

Sabrblade wrote:I already gave an answer to his question, guys:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mkall wrote:Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.

The Wings Universe text story "Flames of Yesterday" did the retcon (and the teal bot next to her was made into Glyph).

But, this is the first that I've heard of it ever being fan speculation. Did that originate from the ATT days?

I call it Fan Speculation because the first I heard of it, people were posting that screenshot, pointing at the pink Fem(ish)-bot and saying "That could be G1 Strika"

I don't follow Club Fiction closely because I see it as simply Toy Justification, hence I was unaware that they had done that in canon.

Mkall wrote:I call it Fan Speculation because the first I heard of it, people were posting that screenshot, pointing at the pink Fem(ish)-bot and saying "That could be G1 Strika"

Ah okay, thanks. I asked since I thought it might have been cool if this were something that fans had been thinking of for years and finally made canon. Guess not, though.

Ugh, ugliest one yet. Why do they insist on giving every Botcon or TFCC figure a garish eye-searing paint job? I guess the theme for 2013 is "Ugly it up".

Its accurate to the original toy. But maybe the actual toy will be less garish eye-searing looking.

It IS an accurate homage, I'll give it that. But it's an homage to a crappy figure that doesn't an homage, IMO.

OK, Strika has her buddy and we have (one of) the larger figures in the set. Using the HftD Highbrow mold was a given, really. Can't wait for the final reveal next week.

I have no clue who these guys are and why I should care. But I'm happy for the rest of you who likes them =]

The fourth figure reveal in the Machine Wars BotCon 2013 boxset is Obsidian. This figure follows the reveals of Hoist, Skywarp and Strika. Obsidian uses the Hunt for the Decepticons Highbrow mold with yet another new head. The image has been mirrored below for your convenience.

The thing that saddens me the most is that Strika and Obsidian aren't in scale with eachother anymore. Still the homage makes sense, but I'm hoping for less brighter colours on the actual toy.

Obsidian never looked so good!

One by one the exclusives keep getting uglier and uglier and having to do less and less with machine wars... It's quite cleat they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?

Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.

Shadowstream wrote:One by one the exclusives keep getting uglier and uglier and having to do less and less with machine wars... It's quite cleat they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?

It's FunPub. It's their specialty.

ahhh UGLY! I am not buying this. I would rather save up for the new springer, blitzwing, IDW figures...and METROPLEX!

Please stop making ugly figures with crappy movie molds!

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.

Ok, then I challenge you to name them.

That's disappointing. Strika is a win, but her counterpart is a loss.

Really poor color scheme choice. :/

Oh snap dudes! I love it, look at the head sculpt! I loved Obsidian and Strika in BM, the only two characters that made any sense to me. I hope Hasbro takes note and give us new molds for them... some day.

I know about Machine Wars. I know about Beast Machines. Did I miss some reading somewhere? Is it "Botcon Beast Machine Wars?" Is it "Machine Wars (and oh, by the way, we are including Beast Machines but not bothering to title it?)" I'm not a CC member, was it explained somewhere that I didn'read. A little help? Thanks.

TK415 wrote:I know about Machine Wars. I know about Beast Machines. Did I miss some reading somewhere? Is it "Botcon Beast Machine Wars?" Is it "Machine Wars (and oh, by the way, we are including Beast Machines but not bothering to title it?)" I'm not a CC member, was it explained somewhere that I didn'read. A little help? Thanks.

Me think we'll be digging in the origins of the two Generals, via G1/G2. After all, in Beast Machines they were described as the greatest strategic minds of history, we'll probably get to see that in action here.

Obsidian looks great. Now, I need to see his faction to learn if Strika and Obsidian will be allies or enemies.

Another thing...why do I see so many people get upset about the addition of new characters in Machine Wars, especially these characters, when they specifically "warned" us that they were doing this beforehand?

PrymeStriker wrote:Another thing...why do I see so many people get upset about the addition of new characters in Machine Wars, especially these characters, when they specifically "warned" us that they were doing this beforehand?

Because they don't pay attention and/or missed the announcement.

As for Obsidian, I like it, but would have preferred this:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.

Ok, then I challenge you to name them.

I'ght

D.O.T.M Skyhammer

Movie Incinerator

F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)

H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)

There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and they are stelth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.

This is probably the most boring Boxset in a long time.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.

Ok, then I challenge you to name them.

I'ght

D.O.T.M Skyhammer

Movie Incinerator

F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)

H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)

There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and the are stelth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.

DotM Skyhammer: He only has one rotor, I'm predicting him for Sandstorm.
Movie Incinerator: That could have worked actually, if it wasn't for the lack of hands
FOC Vortex: Too recent, molds have to be at least a year old. Plus, only one rotor
HftD Tomahawk: Already used for 2012 Spinister, and again, one rotor.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.

Ok, then I challenge you to name them.

I'ght

D.O.T.M Skyhammer

Movie Incinerator

F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)

H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)

There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and the are stealth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.

DotM Skyhammer: licensing issues, plus, he only has one rotor
Movie Incinerator: That could have worked actually, if it wasn't for the lack of hands
FOC vortex: Too recent, molds have to be a year old at least. Plus, only one rotor
HftD Tomahawk: Already used for 2012 Spinister

You just asked for molds, I have no control on whether or not fupub can use them, or reuse them, plus there have only been a few Osprey molds, so you kinda have to reach for helicopters for the homage XD

SW's SilverHammer wrote:You just asked for molds, I have no control on whether or not fupub can use them, or reuse them, plus there have only been a few Osprey molds, so you kinda have to reach for helicopters for the homage XD

True, but that would be cutting corners, even for FunPub.