#BotCon2016 Titans Return: Powermaster Optimus, Voyager Astrotrain, Wheelie, More

Wow, I find myself skipping a large portion of this lineup.

Is...is that an angry Va'al Photobomb by Crashbash there?

Dr Va'al wrote:

This image makes me so happy.

william-james88 wrote:Clober and Highbrow

Hell yeah to both of these! Highbrow!!!

william-james88 wrote:Also:

This melts my heart and makes me very happy. Really looking forward to the 2!

william-james88 wrote:This is Blaster's and Soundwave's back?

Baby got back.

ZeroWolf wrote:Silly, they are only gay if you say they are male which, being from cybertron, they are officially genderless with only arcee being the first fembot on cybertron...until the other colony world's burst onto the scene. Other than that it's just a relationship and you probably assume rewind is childlike because of his height but that's it.

I guess it's kinda a "beholder's interpretation" thing.

Btw...



Is that Va'al in the background?

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Also:

I am wondering, was it supposed to be a gay sort of relationship between Chromedome and Eject in the MTMTE comics, or more of a protective relationship? Eject and Tailgate seem to be more child-like, so it would seem weird for Chromedome and Cyclonus to have that kind of relationship with them.

Actually, Rewind is one of the oldest living Transformers. Tailgate, while young, is even older than Rewind. He was just in a coma for millions of years. Neither is a child. Also, human terms of gay and straight hardly apply to mechanical beings. Rewind and Domey are in a loving relationship. Labels need not be applied.

Ironhidensh wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Also:

I am wondering, was it supposed to be a gay sort of relationship between Chromedome and Eject in the MTMTE comics, or more of a protective relationship? Eject and Tailgate seem to be more child-like, so it would seem weird for Chromedome and Cyclonus to have that kind of relationship with them.

Actually, Rewind is one of the oldest living Transformers. Tailgate, while young, is even older than Rewind. He was just in a coma for millions of years. Neither is a child. Also, human terms of gay and straight hardly apply to mechanical beings. Rewind and Domey are in a loving relationship. Labels need not be applied.

I already got this answer from someone else. My burning question right now is whether or not this is Va'al in the background or not!!!



And yes, I am joking about not caring about your answer.

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know yet when the first wave of Titans Return is planned to come out, and/or which figures are in what waves?

Its planned to come out within the next 4 months, its not clear beyond that precisely when. Takara's version comes out in August.

The first 2 waves (and probably only waves) that are coming out this year are all the toys you see on display there. The first wave will have rewind, stripes, Blaster, Galvatron, Sentinel Prime, Blur, Scourge, Hardhead and Skullcruncher.

Kurona wrote:SKULLCRUNCHER! I love this guy, man! I mean, he's a crocodile who has a little man piloting him in his mouth, how have they not made a new toy of him until now? Either way, the crocodile mode is looking even better from this angle; there's just so much personality in it and I'm liking that posability. I display most my guys in robot mode but screw it, crocodile dude with a pilot in his mouth. Need him. Need.

I dont mean to be a downer, but they changed the piloting seat from his mouth to his back for this toy. But hey, the G1 toy will always exist (I have him and he is my favourite headmaster too)

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Also:

I am wondering, was it supposed to be a gay sort of relationship between Chromedome and Eject in the MTMTE comics, or more of a protective relationship? Eject and Tailgate seem to be more child-like, so it would seem weird for Chromedome and Cyclonus to have that kind of relationship with them.

It's a romantic relationship, yes. And the majority are male anyways. But robots dont have sex, so is it still gay? You decide. Oh and Tailgate and Cyclonus are also in that kind of relationship (and possibly so was Prowl with Tarantulus, though that isnt for sure as the other two).

That guy in the back is totally ruining my enjoyment of this image.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:

This image makes me so happy.

Agreed. I think I'm gonna buy them just to have that on my shelf.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:

This image makes me so happy.

Agreed. I think I'm gonna buy them just to have that on my shelf.

And I'm pretty sure this is how I am going to display him too

Seibertron has delivered a huge gallery of what has been found on Botcon's 2016 show floor for the Transformers Generations toyline. What is extra cool is that by having access to the back of the cards/boxes, we get our first look at yet to be revealed figures. While the full reveal will be given tomorrow, we do have our first look at Deluxes Wirewolf (Wierdwolf) and Highbrow.

Those same backing cards also had images of two new heads, Apeface and Clobber, the later of which looks a lot like Grimlock.

As another small bonus, we have our first look at Voyager Alpha Trion's sword since Power Master Optimus is wielding it in the display case.

Lastly, we have a confirmation of the price range for deluxes. An early rumour was that these would be bigger, more detailed and more expensive, but every price found on the show floor indicates no price increase for these toys.









Hopefully, this will tide you over until the big presentation tomorrow that will fully unveil these new toys.

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know yet when the first wave of Titans Return is planned to come out, and/or which figures are in what waves?

Its planned to come out within the next 4 months, its not clear beyond that precisely when. Takara's version comes out in August.

The first 2 waves (and probably only waves) that are coming out this year are all the toys you see on display there. The first wave will have rewind, stripes, Blaster, Galvatron, Sentinel Prime, Blur, Scourge, Hardhead and Skullcruncher.

On TFsource is says August 2016 instead of 2017. Of course that is a mistake, but what if the whole date is wrong?

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know yet when the first wave of Titans Return is planned to come out, and/or which figures are in what waves?

Its planned to come out within the next 4 months, its not clear beyond that precisely when. Takara's version comes out in August.

The first 2 waves (and probably only waves) that are coming out this year are all the toys you see on display there. The first wave will have rewind, stripes, Blaster, Galvatron, Sentinel Prime, Blur, Scourge, Hardhead and Skullcruncher.

On TFsource is says August 2016 instead of 2017. Of course that is a mistake, but what if the whole date is wrong?

??? Why would it say 2017, these toys are coming out this year. You sure you ddint inverse the numbers. And just to make sure you know, we are in the year 2016.

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know yet when the first wave of Titans Return is planned to come out, and/or which figures are in what waves?

Its planned to come out within the next 4 months, its not clear beyond that precisely when. Takara's version comes out in August.

The first 2 waves (and probably only waves) that are coming out this year are all the toys you see on display there. The first wave will have rewind, stripes, Blaster, Galvatron, Sentinel Prime, Blur, Scourge, Hardhead and Skullcruncher.

On TFsource is says August 2016 instead of 2017. Of course that is a mistake, but what if the whole date is wrong?

??? Why would it say 2017, these toys are coming out this year. You sure you ddint inverse the numbers. And just to make sure you know, we are in the year 2016.

Wait, sorry I mixed something up in my head. Never mind. August in my head for some reason registered as "March". I am tired and sick. Don't judge me!

Btw, is anyone here planning on waiting for the Takara version of Blurr before getting this figure?

SillySpringer wrote:Btw, is anyone here planning on waiting for the Takara version of Blurr before getting this figure?

For all we know, Takara might come out before. I don need to wait, I can judge that Takara's looks amazing and will be getting that one instead.

william-james88 wrote:

That guy in the back is totally ruining my enjoyment of this image.

It's either Va'al or a clone of Va'al I tells ya.

Horrorcons are a score-athon! Sign me up for sure!

Weirdwo- I mean, Wolfwire, doesn't look too bad for such a small rendering

Chromedome looks to me like a retool of CW Smokescreen but with a headmaster/powermaster/removable head bot thing whatever they call them now.

Can anyone confirm?

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Chromedome looks to me like a retool of CW Smokescreen but with a headmaster/powermaster/removable head bot thing whatever they call them now.

Can anyone confirm?

Yes he is; TT used him as the basis for demonstrating headmasters to the suits at hasbro, or something like that

If Clobber means we're getting a leader (or even a voyager) Grimlock with a Headmaster gimmick, I'm OK with this. But now every time I use the gimmick on Ol' Grimsby, I'll hear him saying "It's Clobber-in Time!!!"

If we get him, of course.

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know yet when the first wave of Titans Return is planned to come out, and/or which figures are in what waves?

Probably the same time wave 3 of Combiner Wars came out last year, which was... May? June? Since deluxe wave 6 of CW has seen decent saturation now, the first Titans wave is probably en route to warehouses as we converse.

What is Alpha Trion's alternate form? Surely this is one I haven't seen before. It doesn't look like any previous figures from the past.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:What is Alpha Trion's alternate form? Surely this is one I haven't seen before. It doesn't look like any previous figures from the past.

Lion and Spaceship

I was excited to see Clobber. Had no idea he was coming out.

The TFWiki's saying Brawn's a Titan Master in future waves; is this something that was actually confirmed or is some hapless wiki editor jumping on rumours?

Kurona wrote:The TFWiki's saying Brawn's a Titan Master in future waves; is this something that was actually confirmed or is some hapless wiki editor jumping on rumours?

It's been confirmed, but since its just a head we preffered just waiting for a better pic at the presentation:

Kurona wrote:The TFWiki's saying Brawn's a Titan Master in future waves; is this something that was actually confirmed or is some hapless wiki editor jumping on rumours?

We've heard both Legend (along with Gnaw and Kickback) and Titan Master (with Apeface), but we'll probably know for sure today. Maybe he's Clobber's bot mode?

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Fellow Seibertronians, straight from Botcon 2016, we bring you coverage of the Hasbro brand panel. Hasbro unveiled a bunch of new upcoming Transformers products including: Generations Titan Masters: Clobber (Grimlock), Brawn; Deluxe: Monxo with Wolfwire, Xort with Highbrow; Voyager: Alpha Trion with Autobot Sovereign, Astrotrain with Darkmoon. May Mayhem 2016 - Combiner Wars Deluxe Groove, Computron as seen previously with new poseable hands and feet, Strafe has a few remolds, Scrounge from Generations Cosmos. Check out the list below and check out images from the panel by clicking here. Check out the pictures we've mirrored below, and let us know what you think in the comments.

Wow those look great, alpha trions ship mode looks familiar but I can't place it, lion mode looks great

Gee I wonder who the plane and tank are seems the rumours are dead on point.

From the look of that silhouette, G2 Defensor (?) is getting a Deluxe Groove after all. I wonder how they'll do the sixth mem--HOLY S~~T, IS THAT OVERLORD?!

So if that Megatron Voyager rumor is true I guess we know Flywheels will be the repaint. Everything looks amazing, especially highbrow and weirdwolf. Trion's lion mode is so fat and adorable I love it and also God Damn OVERLORD!!!!!

Fellow Seibertronians, straight from Botcon 2016, we bring you coverage of the Hasbro floor display. Hasbro unveiled a bunch of new upcoming Transformers products including: Generations Titan Masters: Clobber (Grimlock), Brawn; Deluxe: Monxo with Wolfwire, Xort with Highbrow; Voyager: Alpha Trion with Autobot Sovereign, Astrotrain with Darkmoon. May Mayhem 2016 - Combiner Wars Deluxe Groove, and Computron with Scrounge. Check out the list below and check out images from the panel by clicking here. Check out the pictures we've mirrored below, and let us know what you think in the comments.










































Also: Liokaiser!

This actually has me really nervous. Since his modes are the same as a titan master that they would be as a Voyager I wonder if they'll even bother to make him big. If they do though he'll have a mini me, which would be awesome.

It's a shame, because aesthetically a lot of these are really impressive. But they're so damn hollow...

So we're not getting individual Computron releases either? Guess that's a real nice piece of news for the people who went ahead and bought Scattershot. Why would anybody even bother to buy this when the Takara version is better, then?

So I guess anyone who wanted just one individual bot is also SOL. Guess the only way I'm getting a scrounge or a nosecone is by someone splitting the contents of boxed sets up and selling them at triple the price of a deluxe. How absolutely miserable.

Liokasier!

It's a bad picture sure but he actually looks really good. Wonder if he'll get revealed later today.

steals_your_goats wrote:It's a bad picture sure but he actually looks really good. Wonder if he'll get revealed later today.

That's because its a tiny pic on the bottom of the platinum autobot box...

Why in the world would they not announce Liokaiser at the panel but have it right there on a toy box?

Looks like it'll only be a complete package release as well. Guess when they're concentrating on titan wars, they won't want to release individual combiner limb toys. Muddies the waters too much.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Liokasier!

At least there was some interesting thing revealed today. The only thing I got excited about was the Computron reveal. It made me realize I made the right decision by preordering the Takara version.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:It's a bad picture sure but he actually looks really good. Wonder if he'll get revealed later today.

That's because its a tiny pic on the bottom of the platinum autobot box...

Obviously..

I am absolutely in love with Weirdwolf's alt mode. I want him right now.

And such a good job on Scrounge's face!

Hellscream9999 wrote:Liokasier!

Alright, now I can get a little excited. Sad that I'm only excited for this and Overlord. Half of it is stuff I could care less about, and the other half had its hype nerves ruined by leaks.

Still on the fence with liokaiser, if I get him I'll have to do some head recannoning to say that an evil redeco of sky lynx reunited the five remaining members of the breastforce under orders, and reformed liokaiser.

I'm a bit disappointed that Brawn, so far, is just a Titan Master. We're so CLOSE to having all of the Minibots at the Legends scale. Just seal the deal, Hasbro! Give us Brawn and an Outback repaint along with Beachcomber and Seaspray, and we can be set!

Tsukaistarburst wrote:So we're not getting individual Computron releases either? Guess that's a real nice piece of news for the people who went ahead and bought Scattershot. Why would anybody even bother to buy this when the Takara version is better, then?

So I guess anyone who wanted just one individual bot is also SOL. Guess the only way I'm getting a scrounge or a nosecone is by someone splitting the contents of boxed sets up and selling them at triple the price of a deluxe. How absolutely miserable.

You were expecting them to be individual releases even though we knew Combiner Wars individual releases were over after wave 6 and individual deluxes, voyagers, etc were going to be Titans Return branded? We knew, explicitly or implicitly, that further Combiner Wars releases would be box sets, this should not be a surprise.


So Hasbro can't even decide what way they want Nosecone to face.


The former looks bad but it's what Ramhorn and now Nosecone have been officially solicited as, while the latter makes more sense for the mold. However, Hasbro's Strafe looks surprisingly good. Kudos for that.


Liokaiser looks strange with that extra inch of height that not folding back the treads gives him. Odd that he's featured on the back of some packaging but they didn't want to reveal him yet. But that's been the trend of this con. Most of today's reveals were on the packaging of yesterday's figures, so what can you do.

I'm surprised they didn't reveal Liokaiser on the panel. He looks decent enough, but probably not something I would get. Same goes for Computron, the Takara version looks a lot better to me.

Brawn is an odd choice for a Titan Master (and I imagine everyone who ever wanted Legends Brawn from the Swerve mould are going to be furious), but his ATV/motorcycle is cool. Voyager Alpha Trion's alt modes don't look as good as I had hoped, but I'm still going to buy him, and a Lio Convoy repaint at some point would be great. And I'm probably kidding myself here, but Wolfwire looks like he could easily be retooled into a Transmetal style Cheetor and/or Tigatron, I hope that happens one day.

Lots of interesting figures here. Computron is so underwhelming. He's not BAD looking, but I'll stick to the Takara version. Overall, it's been a great display at BotCon.

Munkky wrote:And I'm probably kidding myself here, but Wolfwire looks like he could easily be retooled into a Transmetal style Cheetor and/or Tigatron, I hope that happens one day.

I don't know about Cheetor or Tigatron remolds/repaints, but I can say that Hasbro has knocked it out of the park with Weirdwolf (aka, "Wolfwire"). It's hard to see how Takara Tomy could really improve on that for their Legends line.