Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara

Transformers News: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara

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Takara and Hasbro's deluxe Cogman toy from their respective toylines for Transformers: The Last Knight are the exact same toys. But, there is one big difference between the two: one is now released in the US and the other has been postponed indefinitely.

Hasbro's is curently shipping from Entertainment Earth, however, Takara has made an announcement that their release of Cogman will not be coming out in OCtober. Instead, it has been postponed to a later time with no date given. So those banking on the Takara release to secure their Cogman may need to seek different options, or simply be patient for more news. We will report if anything else comes up.

Transformers News: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara
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Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912179)
Posted by Duke of Luns on September 21st, 2017 @ 10:07am CDT
So I amazingly found a Voyager Skorn and Nitro Zeus(still no Wave 2 Deluxes in North Central West Virginia...), and I must comment about my initial impressions of Nitro Zeus....

The design is really cool, knew about the transformation because of a couple comments fiddled with it and think I've got the hang of it except for one thing..

THE HEAD. Is it just supposed to be wedged in the space between the feet in vehicle mode? The instructions show you turning it around and doing...something. Why is this guy a Headmaster anyway, because they got to a certain point in the design and said "Uh, we don't have the budget to engineer a hinge or other place to put the head...hmmm....let's just pull it off!". Of course the head is also very loose in robot mode, but manageable.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912190)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on September 21st, 2017 @ 11:39am CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:
Autobot Roadburn wrote:I finally got in wave 3 Bumblebee today after ordering him off Amazon (for retail plus shipping, fortunately) and he's a bit of a mixed bag for me. The negatives were some loose pins/connection pegs in the ankles and loose hips. I fixed the hips with pieces of tissue for now but I'll have to buy Future floor polish for the feet. His leg armor is also a bit funky - it's got a nice build and form on the inside of his legs but it's a bit bare and almost concave on the outside. The gun arm is also tough to swap out so I won't be doing it much, I could easily see the connection joints bending from constant removal gradually. The positives are fantastic though - his head sculpt (and the rest of him, really) is fantastic and the chest design works great. He doesn't even have the small flaps above his shoulders like the Human Alliance and MP have. Plus he has the extra little wings of MPM-3 and his roof/hood/windshields fold into his back in a similar but simpler way. This guy was definitely worth the wait for me, far better than the AoE/TLK wave 1 version of the character. He's very likely going to be the definitive deluxe Bumblebee on my shelf next to Evasion Bee.


Is that AOE or TLK Optimus? Did you paint him?


That's the Lsat Knight voyager, and yep, I painted him basically head to toe.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912196)
Posted by kurthy on September 21st, 2017 @ 12:25pm CDT
Duke of Luns wrote:So I amazingly found a Voyager Skorn and Nitro Zeus(still no Wave 2 Deluxes in North Central West Virginia...), and I must comment about my initial impressions of Nitro Zeus....

The design is really cool, knew about the transformation because of a couple comments fiddled with it and think I've got the hang of it except for one thing..

THE HEAD. Is it just supposed to be wedged in the space between the feet in vehicle mode? The instructions show you turning it around and doing...something. Why is this guy a Headmaster anyway, because they got to a certain point in the design and said "Uh, we don't have the budget to engineer a hinge or other place to put the head...hmmm....let's just pull it off!". Of course the head is also very loose in robot mode, but manageable.


Ummm...isn't there a hinge so it folds back in between the 2 feet? The shoulder cannons and neck assembly hinge forward, the the neck assembly has its own separate hinge to rotate the head back in between the feet. Not that I care, I've already lost the head and replaced it with Thunderwing.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912197)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 21st, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT
kurthy wrote:
Ummm...isn't there a hinge so it folds back in between the 2 feet? The shoulder cannons and neck assembly hinge forward, the the neck assembly has its own separate hinge to rotate the head back in between the feet. Not that I care, I've already lost the head and replaced it with Thunderwing.


Excellent, I have a question for you. I just snagged my Nitro today at lunch and will be putting Thunderwing on him later tonight. I actually got Nitro on Monday, but he broke 7-8 steps into the initial transformation, so I never got around to transforming the head. Does the transformation work with leaving Thunderwing's head on? I'm guessing the cockpit doesn't open, so I'm hoping the head can just stay in place. Also, if it does stay in place, do you have to rortate it 180 like the directions say for Nitro's head? Thanks in advance.

Side note: Nitro's head works really well on TR Megatron.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912198)
Posted by kurthy on September 21st, 2017 @ 12:53pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Excellent, I have a question for you. I just snagged my Nitro today at lunch and will be putting Thunderwing on him later tonight. I actually got Nitro on Monday, but he broke 7-8 steps into the initial transformation, so I never got around to transforming the head. Does the transformation work with leaving Thunderwing's head on? I'm guessing the cockpit doesn't open, so I'm hoping the head can just stay in place. Also, if it does stay in place, do you have to rortate it 180 like the directions say for Nitro's head? Thanks in advance.

Side note: Nitro's head works really well on TR Megatron.


The cockpit does open and you can fit any headmaster in, but not nitro's head. You can also leave thunderwing in place with no worries. I rotate it so the head doesn't look out.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912199)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 21st, 2017 @ 1:01pm CDT
kurthy wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Excellent, I have a question for you. I just snagged my Nitro today at lunch and will be putting Thunderwing on him later tonight. I actually got Nitro on Monday, but he broke 7-8 steps into the initial transformation, so I never got around to transforming the head. Does the transformation work with leaving Thunderwing's head on? I'm guessing the cockpit doesn't open, so I'm hoping the head can just stay in place. Also, if it does stay in place, do you have to rortate it 180 like the directions say for Nitro's head? Thanks in advance.

Side note: Nitro's head works really well on TR Megatron.


The cockpit does open and you can fit any headmaster in, but not nitro's head. You can also leave thunderwing in place with no worries. I rotate it so the head doesn't look out.


Double function bonus! Thanks!

This really makes me think that this mold was originally for TR before they decided all voyagers would be triple changers.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912202)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 21st, 2017 @ 1:15pm CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:
Oh that's right! So, I just don't know why they decided to not do hot rod in his flame decor..I'd love to know the reason for that...my biggest question about the movie designs. The figure is actually quite nice.


Cos it would look tacky on an extremely expensive modern day Lamborghini. Maybe he'll pop up in the 80's in a Trans-Am alt-form where a flame decal wouldn't look totally out of place.


Anyways quite happy with my Hot Rod, now where's my darn Wave 3 Bee for crying out loud?
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912204)
Posted by Duke of Luns on September 21st, 2017 @ 1:44pm CDT
kurthy wrote:Ummm...isn't there a hinge so it folds back in between the 2 feet? The shoulder cannons and neck assembly hinge forward, the the neck assembly has its own separate hinge to rotate the head back in between the feet. Not that I care, I've already lost the head and replaced it with Thunderwing.


I thought that's what the instructions indicated. I'll fiddle with it here...

Oh, and the assembly popped out. Least now I can see the hinge, and after some more finagling...

Ah, there we go, got it! Thanks! Tight hinge there on mine.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912205)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 21st, 2017 @ 1:47pm CDT
Duke of Luns wrote:So I amazingly found a Voyager Skorn and Nitro Zeus(still no Wave 2 Deluxes in North Central West Virginia...), and I must comment about my initial impressions of Nitro Zeus....

The design is really cool, knew about the transformation because of a couple comments fiddled with it and think I've got the hang of it except for one thing..

THE HEAD. Is it just supposed to be wedged in the space between the feet in vehicle mode? The instructions show you turning it around and doing...something. Why is this guy a Headmaster anyway, because they got to a certain point in the design and said "Uh, we don't have the budget to engineer a hinge or other place to put the head...hmmm....let's just pull it off!". Of course the head is also very loose in robot mode, but manageable.


The reason hes a headmaster is pretty much the same thing that happened before with revenge of the fallen arcee. something that was intended to happen in the movie that got scrapped, but was still engineered into the toy. Back when they were talking about cogmans character they said he was a headmaster, but more like the headmaster from animated. he was going to have a scene where he ripped off another robots head and took its place. It was never stated who's head he was supposedly going to be ripping off, and it never ended up happening in the movie, but given hes the only other TLK toy designed for the headmaster gimmick, but his head itself doesn't transform, Id'e say its a good bet Nitro was to be the victim.

side not, TM Megatron's head is a perfect match for nitro, and makes for one badass megs.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912214)
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 21st, 2017 @ 2:48pm CDT
Speaking of Nitro, amyone else plan to give him Shockwave's head? I want to buy a DOTM Shockwave for spare parts and I've been wondering if you can remove the Titan Master head and put it in the ball joint socket on SW's head.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912217)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 21st, 2017 @ 2:56pm CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:Speaking of Nitro, amyone else plan to give him Shockwave's head? I want to buy a DOTM Shockwave for spare parts and I've been wondering if you can remove the Titan Master head and put it in the ball joint socket on SW's head.


Probably not without some type of shapeways adapter. The ball on the other side of the TM head is quite a bit smaller than the ball used on most non-TM heads. In fact, I'm guessing you can get an adapter that has the right size "cube" for a TM head on one side and the right size ball for the non-TM figure heads on the other.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912226)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 21st, 2017 @ 5:07pm CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:Speaking of Nitro, amyone else plan to give him Shockwave's head? I want to buy a DOTM Shockwave for spare parts and I've been wondering if you can remove the Titan Master head and put it in the ball joint socket on SW's head.
If I were you, I'd wait on doing that first to see if Takara might do something just like that for a potential Movie the Best version of Nitro.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912246)
Posted by Qwan on September 21st, 2017 @ 6:39pm CDT
On the topic of Nitro and his loose neck, I played around with it last (k)night to see if I could do anything to remedy it. Compared to most TR neck sockets it's a tricky one, since it's pretty much empty all round it and it's hard to tell what space needs to be left empty and what doesn't (I spent 10 minutes trying to fit a piece of credit card behind the neck socket before realizing that his head occupies all the way to the back of the socket). In the end, I came up with:


    - 2 pieces of credit card (or similar-thickness plastic) on one side of the neck socket, 3 pieces on the other; 3 on each side is too much and the head can't fit in, 2 on each side does nothing at all
    - a small snip of regular printer paper, folded over itself 3 times, in the front of the neck-socket; it'll curve a bit to fit in front of the "latch" at the front of the socket, but that's the way it'll work[/list:u]It doesn't seem like it'll work looking at it, but it does - his head turns smoothly and easily, with little to no wobbling! I haven't actually tested any TR heads with the 'fixed' neck socket but I see no reason they wouldn't work - his own head can definitely still go off and on without difficulty.

    Here's a quick pic of what I mean, if my words don't make any sense (which of course they don't):


    Here's what you can see when the head's on, doesn't look too bad:


    And bonus extra shot of Nitro posed a little awkwardly, for no reason other than I like this toy and it's fun:
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912247)
Posted by D-Maximus_Prime on September 21st, 2017 @ 6:43pm CDT
My Nitro has had no issues with his head staying on, not sure why you guys are having issues :-?
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912249)
Posted by Qwan on September 21st, 2017 @ 6:48pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My Nitro has had no issues with his head staying on, not sure why you guys are having issues :-?

No issues with it actually staying on on my end, just wobbling around like crazy (we're talking Scourge/Highbrow levels of wobble here, if not more). It didn't interfere with the functionality of the toy honestly, more like it just annoyed me enough that I didn't mind spending an hour or so to get this otherwise-cool toy working the way I wanted :D
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912262)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 21st, 2017 @ 7:34pm CDT
The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912264)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 21st, 2017 @ 7:37pm CDT
When Cogman finally appear in store, I'll be sure to grab one or even two. I don't care if I have to pay the full 30$+TX each.
That guy could be scalped like no tomorrow.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912271)
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 21st, 2017 @ 8:19pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

Might as well buy two. With the 3 pack coming soon (or the Movie the Best release with the hammer), I wouldn't mind having two copies of the same mold (probably should do the same with Cogman, Nitro Zeus, etc.)
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912305)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 22nd, 2017 @ 1:45am CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

Might as well buy two. With the 3 pack coming soon (or the Movie the Best release with the hammer), I wouldn't mind having two copies of the same mold (probably should do the same with Cogman, Nitro Zeus, etc.)


You can keep one with the gun arm and the other normal to transform. I remember how excited people were for the limb-swapping gimmick when we saw the leaked instruction scans, not so much now.
Re: Deluxe Cogman from Transformers The Last Knight Now in Stock from Hasbro but Postponed from Takara (1912316)
Posted by Qwan on September 22nd, 2017 @ 6:59am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

Might as well buy two. With the 3 pack coming soon (or the Movie the Best release with the hammer), I wouldn't mind having two copies of the same mold (probably should do the same with Cogman, Nitro Zeus, etc.)

You can keep one with the gun arm and the other normal to transform. I remember how excited people were for the limb-swapping gimmick when we saw the leaked instruction scans, not so much now.

Why they didn't just do a regular 5mm peg or something (like Figma-style) is beyond me. If you're gonna have a part-swapping gimmick, design the parts so they can be swapped without stressing or deteriorating anything; if you really feel like you need the security of a mushroom-peg joint, consider finding a different way to do the gimmick or just drop it altogether, either is probably better than a compromise that ends up not working properly. Admittedly I don't know what restrictions they had to work with or what led to the final decision, but from a layman's perspective, you'd think it'd be toy design 101 to not make your gimmicks wreck themselves or the toy over time.

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