Interview with IDW Transformers Writer John Barber on Unicron
Sunday, June 3rd, 2018 9:52PM CDT
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The two touch upon a number of general points from the mini-series, including what it means for the comics in general, and the mythos of Unicron up to this point, plus what we're to expect from the event. The article also showcases the covers revealed so far by Alex Milne and James Raiz (see the latter's full piece here), so take a look below, and join the conversation in the Energon Pub!
Vince Brusio: The cover page for IDW’s section in the May PREVIEWS touts how Transformers: Unicron “marks the end of the Transformers universe as we know it.” That’s a bold statement. The history behind Transformers at IDW is considerable. New characters like Windblade have been introduced. Countless stories have been collected in trade paperback. And now we’re told it can all get wiped out? Can you give us some details on how Unicron is going to live up to such hype?
John Barber: This is going to be the conclusion to the story — and the universe — that IDW launched back with Transformers: Infiltration #0 in 2005. IDW and Hasbro still have plenty more to say with Transformers — don’t misunderstand that! — but for this particular history, it’s all over. Now — whether that history gets wiped out or gets a nice happy ending for everybody? That’s the part that is playing out in the Unicron event.
I’m incredibly proud of the work that’s been done on this universe. Simon Furman and EJ Su started it, and I’ve had a hand in it for over six years, working alongside Transformers greats like James Roberts, Mairghread Scott, Kei Zama, Jack Lawrence, Andrew Griffith, Sara Pitre-Durocher, Livio Ramondelli, Priscilla Tramontano, Brendan Cahill, Guido Guidi, Shane McCarthy, Nick Roche, and so many more. For me, I started writing Transformers: Robots in Disguise back in 2012. I’ve written more Transformers comics than I ever thought possible, and I loved every minute of it. Working on the same set of characters, the same universe, for so long has been the most rewarding creative experience of my life, and one I really doubt that I’ll ever be able to duplicate.
So, for me — and for Unicron artist Alex Milne, who’s been with Transformers longer than me — we both feel that if we’re going to do an ending for this, we’d best make the greatest ending we can.
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Vince Brusio: An unlettered preview page is featured just below the cover of issue #1 in the May PREVIEWS solicitation. Tell us what we’re seeing on this page. How is it a window into understanding the consequences of this storyline?
John Barber: That’s page one from issue #1. In it, we see the legendary history of the great creator, Primus, and his opposite — Unicron, the Chaos-Bringer. These are characters that run deep in Transformers history — back to the original runs of the comic books and animated series. Over the years, in different media, Primus and Unicron have usually been portrayed as primal cosmic beings locked in an endless struggle. So, here, on this page, we’re seeing the legend — the story Cybertronians have passed down for millions and millions of years.
The thing is, now that Unicron is here, the facts don’t match the legend... so Optimus, Windblade, and Starscream are all asking the question, “How much of this is true and how much was just a bedtime story?"
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John Barber: Ooooh, we did a lot of drafts. When we settled on doing Unicron, I got on the phone with James Roberts, Mairghread Scott, Nick Roche, and then-Transformers Editor (and still-good friend) Carlos Guzman, and we talked at length about the possibilities of the story. We had a lot of really good ideas, some of which worked, and some didn’t. We all wanted this to have meaning, and to have this even actually be about something — not just be empty spectacle. If you know the IDW Transformers comics, you know they’re about character first and foremost. We like to tackle big themes and big emotions, and it was important to all of us to keep that foregrounded. Which is a long way of saying that there’ve been a lot of drafts.
We’re about halfway through as I type this, so we’re pretty deep in. We’re double-shipping for the start of the event, but we’re back to regular schedule for the end, in something of an effort to not kill Alex, who is doing the work of his career here. And that is saying a lot!
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Posted by william-james88 on June 4th, 2018 @ 8:55am CDT
Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).
I am in the dark here, what is Va'al referring to?
Also, why does no one know unicron? I unerstand them not believing he exists but I thought he was still part of the lore and mythos.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 4th, 2018 @ 9:29am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on June 4th, 2018 @ 12:12pm CDT
Guess I'll have to start another long box of whatever they come up with after Unicron wraps.
Posted by starfishy on June 4th, 2018 @ 12:38pm CDT
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 4th, 2018 @ 8:04pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:SynchroBunny wrote:Wasn't there that G.I.Joe guy whose name escapes me, from the Scavengers issue? I recall him ending up going through a portal at the end.
If you mean MP3, actually, I think it was the opposite, the Scavengers ditched him and went through the portal (If I remember correctly).
No one went through that portal. The Scavengers left the planet, and MP3 merely put a letter of resignation through there to go to Scarlett, but then tried to get it back after the Scavengers left him.
Posted by ScottyP on June 5th, 2018 @ 1:09pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).
I am in the dark here, what is Va'al referring to?
Also, why does no one know unicron? I unerstand them not believing he exists but I thought he was still part of the lore and mythos.
Despite not being Va'al, I can say with 100% certainty he is referring to Kup's death in TF vs Visionaries #1ZeroWolf wrote:Va'al is referring to tf vs visionaries and possibly lost light. There's also conflicting tales of the tf creation story in idw, neither of them featured unicron but given that he was awoken by a signal sent by cybertron, I think the normal story is going to be turned on its head.
Posted by Va'al on June 5th, 2018 @ 5:52pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 9th, 2018 @ 12:14pm CDT
Check out the new cover below, and prepare yourself, for Unicron #1 comes next month!
Posted by Sabrewing on June 9th, 2018 @ 12:39pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 9th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on June 9th, 2018 @ 4:20pm CDT
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 10th, 2018 @ 7:13am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 12th, 2018 @ 8:17am CDT
Quint wrote:Riffing on the Marvel #1 cover for a final issue is becoming something of a cliché.
BumbleDouche wrote:Meh... What's going on with that right arm/shoulder? Come to think of it, the left isn't that great either... For starters. From my lofty position as a talentless hack, I think this cover seems rather sloppy, by modern standards.
I'd like to point out that this is the Retail Incentive "C" cover, meaning at best a shop can order one copy of it per 25 copies of Unicron 1 they order.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Can't say I'm a fan. Then again, I didn't like the original either. Considering this is Unicron's story he is barely noticeable as more than background colouring.
In other words, there won't be a lot of them in circulation and those that are will likely run $20 minimum.
Edit: it's a 50 copy incentive. Good luck to those that want it! It's gonna be expensive.
Posted by Va'al on June 13th, 2018 @ 4:13am CDT
And fans of old, be it Unicron, Transformers, or just jumping it with all the buzz, will recognise this one for sure from a poster for a certain 1986 movie. Check it out below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion boards!
YOU'VE GOT THE TOUCH! We're excited to announce our next Stadium Exclusive Variant for TRANSFORMERS: UNICRON #1 by series artist Alex Milne, paying tribute to the poster art of the 1986 Transformers movie! Only 500 of these will be printed and pre-orders start at 11am eastern time June 13th at https://
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 13th, 2018 @ 5:28am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on June 13th, 2018 @ 5:49am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I always find it funny when looking at the 1986 movie poster that the only glimpse of hot rod you get is in his rodimus prime winabago alt. Surprised no one then complained of bait and switch
The internet didn’t exist yet for grown men to complain about such things
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 13th, 2018 @ 8:00am CDT
I also like that Arcee is the only character duplicated in the same position.
Posted by Randomhero on June 13th, 2018 @ 9:10am CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:I'd like to get this cover, but I'm guessing it will be a costly pain in the butt to get.
I also like that Arcee is the only character duplicated in the same position.
You’ll find it easy on eBay. It won’t be very expensive.
This ain’t Dreamwave 2002 where certain covers were worth hundreds until the went under and now are pennies.
This is IDW. You’ll be able to find them on eBay for maybe $10-20 and that’s being extreme saying $20
Posted by ScottyP on June 13th, 2018 @ 9:40am CDT
Yeah the expensive covers are things like the Casey Coller Sgt. Pepper homage cover to MTMTE 12 and his Bowie Ziggy Stardust one for RiD 12, and stuff like the Paul Pope OP and LL #1 covers which were 50 copy retailer incentive covers. That Shockwave wrap-around gatefold for Infiltration 0 was also expensive at one point but it may have come down.Randomhero wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:I'd like to get this cover, but I'm guessing it will be a costly pain in the butt to get.
I also like that Arcee is the only character duplicated in the same position.
You’ll find it easy on eBay. It won’t be very expensive.
This ain’t Dreamwave 2002 where certain covers were worth hundreds until the went under and now are pennies.
This is IDW. You’ll be able to find them on eBay for maybe $10-20 and that’s being extreme saying $20
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 13th, 2018 @ 9:43am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I always find it funny when looking at the 1986 movie poster that the only glimpse of hot rod you get is in his rodimus prime winabago alt. Surprised no one then complained of bait and switch
I always thought it should have been the other way around. Have him start off as a Winnebago/VW Van and make Rodimus Prime the Futuristic muscle car. Really breaking with tradition. The Winnebago of Doom was always a terrible and pointless altmode. Not every Autobot leader needs to be a generic and boring truck.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 13th, 2018 @ 11:06am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 13th, 2018 @ 12:48pm CDT
I also thought for a long time he'd be able to carry cars back there, so take this as you will
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 13th, 2018 @ 12:52pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:They probably thought kids would take better if the new leader was a truck like prime (may also be why Ultra Magnus was a sub leader/second in command as he was also a truck like alt mode...it was a car carrier yes but how many other truck alt modes do the bots have like that?)
I mean I had all three back then, Ultra Magnus, Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. The Hot Rod toy looks so much better than Rodimus. Not to mention Ultra Magnus was probably the best G1 truck toy, even if he was a brick, as he was massive. I can only assume a "Sports truck" design was one of Floro Dery's. What he was on that day, who can say
Posted by ScottyP on June 13th, 2018 @ 1:05pm CDT
Oh totally, but I had only Hot Rod as a hand-me-down so the movie plus the catalogs not providing a sense of scale had me thinking the winnie was way cooler than it actually is. None of my old brother's friends had a Rodimus Prime though so I should have taken that as a sign!AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:They probably thought kids would take better if the new leader was a truck like prime (may also be why Ultra Magnus was a sub leader/second in command as he was also a truck like alt mode...it was a car carrier yes but how many other truck alt modes do the bots have like that?)
I mean I had all three back then, Ultra Magnus, Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. The Hot Rod toy looks so much better than Rodimus. Not to mention Ultra Magnus was probably the best G1 truck toy, even if he was a brick, as he was massive. I can only assume a "Sports truck" design was one of Floro Dery's. What he was on that day, who can say
Also, for the record, I would totally do drugs* with Floro Dery.
*this is highly conditional on which drug we're talking about
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 13th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT
Looking at the Floro concept art from the wiki and other sources, it was clearly The Hard Stuff
Posted by bluecatcinema on June 13th, 2018 @ 2:01pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 27th, 2018 @ 5:42am CDT
As the first issue of the mini-series is due for release in July, this is a good time to catch up on the story as it begins - though be aware there are spoilers for the ongoing Optimus Prime series, too - and make sure to check out our review of the opening issue here.
Not a whimper, nor a bang-the end comes with a squall of entropy shrieking from the ravenous maw of death itself. The message is clear: Unicron has arrived. The Transformers lock into a desperate bid to save Rom's homeworld from the world-killer - but why has Unicron chosen this world on his path to Cybertron... and Earth? The biggest story in the history of Transformers starts now: for Unicron's arrival can mean nothing less than the end of a universe.
Posted by ScottyP on June 27th, 2018 @ 8:53am CDT
Posted by dragons on June 27th, 2018 @ 10:00am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Good book, glad it's out there more readily for folks that missed it on FCBD!
If I am going to get this book it will never be on free comic book day free comics on free comic book day are not worth paper they are printed on if you have Stan lee sign book on free comic book day book you be doing selling book for Stan lee autograph not book itself as comic book reader I never pick them up for my self unless I get them as gift from people who know me hat I like comics,.
I look forward buy trade paper back of this series
Posted by ScottyP on June 27th, 2018 @ 10:49am CDT
Neatdragons wrote:ScottyP wrote:Good book, glad it's out there more readily for folks that missed it on FCBD!
If I am going to get this book it will never be on free comic book day free comics on free comic book day are not worth paper they are printed on if you have Stan lee sign book on free comic book day book you be doing selling book for Stan lee autograph not book itself as comic book reader I never pick them up for my self unless I get them as gift from people who know me hat I like comics,.
I look forward buy trade paper back of this series
Posted by Randomhero on June 27th, 2018 @ 10:54am CDT
dragons wrote:ScottyP wrote:Good book, glad it's out there more readily for folks that missed it on FCBD!
If I am going to get this book it will never be on free comic book day free comics on free comic book day are not worth paper they are printed on if you have Stan lee sign book on free comic book day book you be doing selling book for Stan lee autograph not book itself as comic book reader I never pick them up for my self unless I get them as gift from people who know me hat I like comics,.
I look forward buy trade paper back of this series
I didn’t understand a word of that but okay.
Posted by Big Grim on June 27th, 2018 @ 10:57am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Good book, glad it's out there more readily for folks that missed it on FCBD!
Glad this is now available. My local comic vendor is not able to get these!
Posted by Hydrargyrus on June 27th, 2018 @ 11:21am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on June 27th, 2018 @ 12:54pm CDT
MagicDeath wrote:Quick question: will I be able to enjoy this without being caught up with the main series? I kinda know what’s been going on in the IDW universe, but I haven’t even touched the OP series yet.
Can try. I mean it’s got a lot of references to stuff. I can’t imagine jumping in with this but for someone who’s media is the IDWverse I can’t imagine anyone being able to jump in anywhere but the start. Plenty of people do I guess with Death of Optimus Prime or post Dark Cybertron and I just can’t fathom how anyone would find it enjoyable.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 27th, 2018 @ 1:10pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:dragons wrote:ScottyP wrote:Good book, glad it's out there more readily for folks that missed it on FCBD!
If I am going to get this book it will never be on free comic book day free comics on free comic book day are not worth paper they are printed on if you have Stan lee sign book on free comic book day book you be doing selling book for Stan lee autograph not book itself as comic book reader I never pick them up for my self unless I get them as gift from people who know me hat I like comics,.
I look forward buy trade paper back of this series
I didn’t understand a word of that but okay.
I think they are saying the free comic book day comics aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Could be wrong but I think that's what it is.
Posted by ScottyP on June 27th, 2018 @ 1:31pm CDT
While it will spoil literally every big twist within Optimus Prime, I think if you have the rough idea of the state of the universe you'll be just fine. If you don't mind the spoilers, definitely download it. It's free after all, and it isn't as long as a normal issue!MagicDeath wrote:Quick question: will I be able to enjoy this without being caught up with the main series? I kinda know what’s been going on in the IDW universe, but I haven’t even touched the OP series yet.
Posted by Randomhero on June 27th, 2018 @ 2:31pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:dragons wrote:ScottyP wrote:Good book, glad it's out there more readily for folks that missed it on FCBD!
If I am going to get this book it will never be on free comic book day free comics on free comic book day are not worth paper they are printed on if you have Stan lee sign book on free comic book day book you be doing selling book for Stan lee autograph not book itself as comic book reader I never pick them up for my self unless I get them as gift from people who know me hat I like comics,.
I look forward buy trade paper back of this series
I didn’t understand a word of that but okay.
I think they are saying the free comic book day comics aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Could be wrong but I think that's what it is.
Yeah I was there that far and then the tangeant about Stan Lee signing comics just kinda made my brain hurt because it didn’t make sense. Probably shouldn’t be having stan sign your free comics anyway. I don’t think he’s written a comic book in over 20 years.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 27th, 2018 @ 2:37pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on June 27th, 2018 @ 3:13pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah stan Lee is more of an actor now though he gives other people ideas to use, like when he shared ideas with the author of the manga Shaman King to create the Ultimo manga.
I remember I think it was middle school I was reading Wizard(yeah that long ago) and there was an article about Stan Lee’s versions of DC characters and it was the worst thing I’d seen since someone pointed out the anatomy problems with Liefelds art.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 27th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CDT
"I fear his mind is no longer in mint condition"
Posted by Randomhero on June 27th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I remember wizard, and I also sadly remember stan lee's version of the DC cast...I think Comic Book Guy from Simpsons said it best:
"I fear his mind is no longer in mint condition"
Oh thank god someone else remembers that. I tell people about it and they think I’m making up blonde Superman in like space knight armor and he had a giant S on his chest and 2 tiny Ss on his shoulders where his cape is connected . It’s like burned into my brain
Posted by william-james88 on June 27th, 2018 @ 5:11pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:dragons wrote:ScottyP wrote:Good book, glad it's out there more readily for folks that missed it on FCBD!
If I am going to get this book it will never be on free comic book day free comics on free comic book day are not worth paper they are printed on if you have Stan lee sign book on free comic book day book you be doing selling book for Stan lee autograph not book itself as comic book reader I never pick them up for my self unless I get them as gift from people who know me hat I like comics,.
I look forward buy trade paper back of this series
I didn’t understand a word of that but okay.
I think they are saying the free comic book day comics aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Could be wrong but I think that's what it is.
Yeah I was there that far and then the tangeant about Stan Lee signing comics just kinda made my brain hurt because it didn’t make sense. Probably shouldn’t be having stan sign your free comics anyway. I don’t think he’s written a comic book in over 20 years.
He wrote this one a few years back
https://www.google.ca/search?q=stan+lee ... t7XdfnMzFM:
It's what I got him to sign when I met him.
Posted by budmaloney on June 27th, 2018 @ 8:32pm CDT
But if they don't end it fully and make it like new 52 where it is a reboot of sorts, I wouldn't prefer it. Since well they would be lying to us.
I honestly am more interested in the truth of their claims more than the actual comics lol
Posted by WreckerJack on June 28th, 2018 @ 2:48am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 28th, 2018 @ 8:15am CDT
budmaloney wrote:Actually it's a nice read. Though I'm glad I got caught up before this. I still don't think they're ending the idw universe, it seems such an odd thing to do. Were the sales bad? Why throwaway their hardwork so recklessly?
It's not throwing anything away IDWverse will still exist, as a collected series, much like Marvel and DreamWave.
Nothing lasts forever and reboots are often both a sound business decision and a necessity, more frequently in this day and age of limited attention spans and quicker, marketing-based turn over. The era wherein you could be following a book for over 200 issues is long gone.
I do hope they end it clean. No ties whatsoever. a Real reboot, not a halfhearted one.
Posted by william-james88 on June 28th, 2018 @ 8:25am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 28th, 2018 @ 8:28am CDT
william-james88 wrote:WTF BUMBLEBEE'S ALIVE?!?!?!?!?!?
And still just as relevant as he was in Infiltration