Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD

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The Beginning of the Beginning of the End
(Spoiler free-ish)

Synopsis
Not a whimper, nor a bang-the end comes with a squall of entropy shrieking from the ravenous maw of death itself. The message is clear: Unicron has arrived. The Transformers lock into a desperate bid to save Rom's homeworld from the world-killer - but why has Unicron chosen this world on his path to Cybertron... and Earth? The biggest story in the history of Transformers starts now: for Unicron's arrival can mean nothing less than the end of a universe.

a narrative universe, that is

Story
First things first: this issue is part of the Free Comic Book Day initiative, in which participating physical comics stores give out free copies of comic books from a number of publishers. If you don't know where to find a store near you, try this tool (works relatively accurately outside of US and Canada too)!

Second: even just the opening, and the preview, of this book will spoil at least one and a half storylines from the current Optimus Prime ongoing series. The cover does too. So that's that, and we all know now. I will not dwell on it further, but if you'd rather wait for the next two issues of OP to hit before finding this issue, do so!

yeah, pretty much

Now, into the main course: John Barber brings Unicron to the Transformers universe, fully, entirely, wholly and viciously . And I really mean that last one. There is no sympathy from me towards those asking for the entire IDW universe casts to be annihilated as the continuity ends, but it looks like Barber is definitely starting to trim those down from the get go (a recurring theme since David Mariotte's arrival on editorial, now that I think about it...) - and not even in the main part of the story.

Snerk

Optimus Prime is the more or less de facto narrator (his caption tag says so), and the technique is one that will be familiar to all of Barber's readers - but even so, this ..thing, this threat is new to him too. He does not have prior knowledge. None of the characters beside him do, nor does the Solstar Order, nor does the reader. And that narration helps us - established fans of Transformers, and in the know about the mythos in general - see this new Unicron, this IDW version of him, in a different light.

I give you: OP raising an eyebrow

There are of course some lighter moments, where possible, mostly in the form of wit quickly truncated by the events taking place around the characters (Rom's deadpan behaviour, Wheeljack being himself, Pyra Magna's shade towards Optimus), but for such a short story, there are so many heavy beats that you will most definitely be wanting some more.

Art

Alex Milne, who has had a taste of Elonian blood already in the Shining Armor mini-series that saw the first collaboration between Cybertronians and Rom's Solstar Order (including specific characters in this issue, who reference that fact), returns to similar worlds to bring some painstaking detail to the frames he lays out with almost dark glee. And, most admirably I thought, he gives us a sense of the sheer scale that Unicron holds compared to everything else on the page, without ever fully showing the planet - this is not Unicron's story, after all, but that of the people facing him.

hi Bob

Colours are provided by a previous collaborator of Barber's and a new for Milne, Sebastian Cheng, last seen in Revolution and Revolutionaries. While showing the same vibrancy of some of those series, in fact, he manages to convey some truly dark moments for everyone involved with some impressive lighting angles and surfaces.

..it's really hard not to spoil..

What else can I add about Tom B. Long's lettering, really, at this stage - other than reiterate his necessary role in something as vast and encompassing as the entire Hasbro Universe and its unmaker, with captions placed right, dialogue paced out, and a new title redesign that ..just works.

There is just the one cover, being a FCBD comic, but the composition - one that we have seen many a time, is a pretty good reminder of the immense powers at work on the universe right here, and Sara Pitre Durocher delivers.

Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

As I said above, the pacing that Barber has created - by dropping us into the story exactly as it's happening (unavoidable, given the scheduling of the book compared to the ones leading into it) and building to it through Revolutionaries and Optimus Prime, Shining Armor, and the early days of exRID - allows for some pretty breakneck reading and experiencing of the heavier moments taking place in the pretty short issue. And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).

More snerk

Milne and Cheng work really well together too, which is a low-key relief. Having seen both of their work apart from each other, I wasn't entirely sure it would end up looking this good, and am excited to see more (even just on covers, like for Unicron #1). The extra treat in the book, though? John Barber's letter at the very end, tidying up a lot of the threads that have lead to this moment, and initially written in January - there's Revolutionaries, Dark Cybertron, exRID, First Strike, and more, laid out for readers who wanted to follow up without keeping everything at hand. It's good. It's Barber. It's good Barber.

out of

Credit(s): IDW, FCBD

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Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957764)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 5th, 2018 @ 3:06am CDT

I'm looking forward to this more than I thought I would. Such high expectations.

Good review Va'al! ;)^

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957766)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 5th, 2018 @ 3:09am CDT

This story arc has got a lot to live up to but I have trust in barber. I still think unicron will be gone at the end (maybe they'll use magic and then shift unicron into the new continuity, so it becomes their problem :-P

)

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957790)
Posted by ScottyP on May 5th, 2018 @ 9:24am CDT

This is a great book given the truncated size, it isn't filled with ads as the back matter (features the pages from First Strike 6 where Unicron is introduced plus some reference material on the continuity), and the art is holy ---- levels of good. Get this today! (But buy something too - your local shop pays for the free copies so grab some Lost Light or Optimus Prime issues or branch out and grab something new!)

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957792)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 5th, 2018 @ 10:07am CDT

I picked up mine from one of the local libraries near me. Though they are stamped by a comic shop with an outlet an hour away from me. I don't know how free comic book day works in that case..

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957795)
Posted by Sunstar on May 5th, 2018 @ 10:55am CDT

I got it, I read it and WOW.

the back of the book covers the "missing sections." I would advise not reading that if you don't want optimus prime 19 (and possibly 20) spoiled. Quite the terrifying concept.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957798)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 5th, 2018 @ 11:18am CDT

I took the plunge. It is Unicron after all. I've pre-ordered issues 1 & 2 so far. This #0 one doesn't seem to exist physically online though? Is it required reading for issue 1 or will it be part of that issue, for those that miss out??

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957807)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 5th, 2018 @ 12:30pm CDT

I thought places like comixology would have the free issues.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957810)
Posted by Va'al on May 5th, 2018 @ 1:28pm CDT

As I and others have said further up in the thread, and in the review, this is only out today physically.
It should be out digitally before issue #1 hits, but we have no confirmed release yet.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957812)
Posted by Sunstar on May 5th, 2018 @ 1:53pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I took the plunge. It is Unicron after all. I've pre-ordered issues 1 & 2 so far. This #0 one doesn't seem to exist physically online though? Is it required reading for issue 1 or will it be part of that issue, for those that miss out??

you may find 0 after today - but it probably is a good idea to obtain. I am sort of iffy on something like this being part of FCBD - because not everyone can get the day off. I was lucky.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957817)
Posted by Randomhero on May 5th, 2018 @ 2:50pm CDT

I had a theory Unicron was going to be targeting the Ores. Guess I was right.

He’s taking all the ores and doing what Shockwave attempted with Regensis in Dark Cybettron. Much like shockwaves goal was to turn into a singularity that forever feeds off the universe Unicron is doing the same.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957822)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 5th, 2018 @ 3:30pm CDT

Picked it up, first time actually being part of free comic book day. Great read, sad story that gives me hope for Unicron.

You killed Wheeljack.... that was so sad.

And what is it now, unicron has eaten 4 colonies and he's starting on Eukaris #5 at the And? Wow. And man he's killed a lot already

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957828)
Posted by rslatt74 on May 5th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CDT

Is it just me or does it look like Rom and his buddy are about to be transformed into Scourge and Cyclonus?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957840)
Posted by Randomhero on May 5th, 2018 @ 6:53pm CDT

rslatt74 wrote:Is it just me or does it look like Rom and his buddy are about to be transformed into Scourge and Cyclonus?

...just you

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957843)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on May 5th, 2018 @ 8:45pm CDT

Maybe I missed it in one of the spin offs (I only really read Lost Light & Optimus Prime), but has it been explained how they got Bumblebee back from the dead (or wherever he was)?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957848)
Posted by Daniel Adkins on May 5th, 2018 @ 10:14pm CDT

Black Bumblebee wrote:Maybe I missed it in one of the spin offs (I only really read Lost Light & Optimus Prime), but has it been explained how they got Bumblebee back from the dead (or wherever he was)?

This story takes place after The Falling, and Bumblebee will be coming back during the upcoming issues of that storyline. He should be back by issue #20.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957849)
Posted by Sunstar on May 5th, 2018 @ 10:32pm CDT

it actually explains his return in the back of the book. I don't advise reading it because of spoilers

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957869)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 6th, 2018 @ 3:37am CDT

I'd imagine "healing coma". The BS that was popularised with Superman :roll:

aka He was Dead... But not really.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957870)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 6th, 2018 @ 3:47am CDT

No bee was definitely dead...actually I question his return less than I do the other big return in recent issues of Optimus Prime...after that it's quite easy to resurrect the yellow bot. Question is, has he been brought back just to die again?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957872)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 6th, 2018 @ 3:50am CDT

I felt it was kind of vague. I read Dark Cybertron (in the TF Part-Work) and they just kind of left him.

The general rule of thumb in media: if you don't see the body, they ain't dead.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957881)
Posted by YoungPrime on May 6th, 2018 @ 9:04am CDT

Umm, yeah. This felt like a free comic.

Unless they give Unicron more personality and less irritating (Pyra) and forced (Bumblebee) dialog from the rest this is going to be a bland ending.

2 out of 5 for me.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957900)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 6th, 2018 @ 12:33pm CDT

Beyond Orson Welles voice, when has Unicron ever had personality, aside from "evil"...?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957926)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 6th, 2018 @ 4:03pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Beyond Orson Welles voice, when has Unicron ever had personality, aside from "evil"...?

He's never needed one really as he's just been a plot device but them what can you do with him? If he's truly a god then his motivations should be alien to everyone else. He's the archetypal "other" a being who is relentless in his goals.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957927)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 6th, 2018 @ 4:06pm CDT

Exactly my point. You can't really decry a depiction of Unicron for a lack of personality, when it's never been an issue before.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1957960)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 6th, 2018 @ 8:28pm CDT

Randomhero wrote:
rslatt74 wrote:Is it just me or does it look like Rom and his buddy are about to be transformed into Scourge and Cyclonus?

...just you

Nah, I can see it some too. It sort of looks like the scene, even if it really isn't a transition/transformation scene.

And I agree with the directly above comments, Unicron is basically a God of destruction and chaos, his personality has always been to destroy Cybertron and the universe. He isn't really anything more than that.

And I think this did spectacularly in hyping him up. In the course of this short free issue, he ate a major Hasbro universe planet, he was said to have eaten 4 more (well, 2 more and a black hole/planet remnents), and then at the end he started to eat yet another one. And he is targeting the ore/colony planets, and he has killed an entire colony (Override was shown as a corpse, if the planet leader didn't survive, no one did, except those already on Cybertron), the Autobot team sent to rescue them, and then Wheeljack, a major character. Heck, it's implied at the end he has killed almost the entire Beast Wars cast by destroying Eukaris with no hope of evacuation. He is doing what was expected, and he is doing it well.

Heck, he never even showed up entirely on a page, only parts of him were seen. They are hiding his true scale.

Also makes me wonder if the dead Cybertronians littering his surface had their sparks consumed by him, and their bodies left to rot on his skin. It also looks like the Velocitron titan literally crashed into his surface instead of being consumed and transformed into part of him.

Either way, lots of cool stuff set up.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958023)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 7th, 2018 @ 7:47am CDT

Found it on EBay! I imagine it will reach me sometime this week. As I've said, Death of Optimus Prime was a jump off point for me and reading MTMTE/LL & (Formerly) RiD through the part work have done little to convince me I made the wrong decision. But Unicron is Unicron and since they have messed up The Trinity in IDWverse, Unicron is alpha & omega for my enjoyment.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958085)
Posted by AlphaBass on May 7th, 2018 @ 2:17pm CDT

Is there a way to get it without spending a ton on eBay?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958086)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 7th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CDT

AlphaBass wrote:Is there a way to get it without spending a ton on eBay?

I got it for £2.99, with free postage. Obviously different regions may vary.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958157)
Posted by AlphaBass on May 7th, 2018 @ 9:15pm CDT

Thanks. Found a comic shop that had quite a few left.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958347)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 8th, 2018 @ 9:28pm CDT

Comics WebsiteThe Beat had the opportunity to sit down with the newly appointed Editor-In-Chief of IDW publishing and continuity master extraordinaire John Barber to talk about the upcoming Transformers: Unicron series, which saw it's issue #0 released this past Saturday at Free Comic Book Day. You can find a review of that issue HERE.

Over the course of the interview, Barber talks about his upcoming role in the IDW Transformers comics following the end of the current continuity, where he states that he will have a guiding hand involved with whatever new series is set to start. This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity. So while he may not be writing the new stories, he will be responsible for overseeing them.

You can check out the full interview by following the link above, and you can catch some of the content quoted below!

Alexander Jones: How do your new responsibilities as Editor-in-Chief effect your contributions to the Transformers franchise?

John Barber: My recent return to IDW as Editor-in-Chief won’t impact Unicron—I’m still writing the event (along with the Optimus Prime series) through to the end, and my excitement and commitment to this story could not be higher. But I’m also incredibly honored and excited to have the opportunity to take a guiding hand on where the Transformers comics from IDW and Hasbro go next—and on where we take all of IDW’s amazing comics. I’ve been at this job for about a week, and it’s been thrilling working with our partners. The future of IDW—and of comics—looks very, very bright. Unless a big metal planet eats the whole universe, but we’ll have to see how that goes.

.....

Jones: Why was Unicron chosen as the story to close out the current Transformers Universe?

Barber: Unicron is a really iconic piece of the Transformers mythos. If you’re old enough to have lived through the original Transformers cartoon in the 1980s, you remember what a massive, disruptive thing Unicron was in the movie. That movie was one of the most apocalyptic cartoons you were going to see as a kid in the 1980s—it was devastating watching those familiar characters die. And that’s intrinsically linked with Unicron—in my mind, at least—even though, as editor David Mariotte likes pointing out, Unicron didn’t really kill very many Transformers. He still ate whole planets!

Unicron is something we’ve thought about doing in the IDW universe for a long time but always held off. The time never felt right, and I think the chance to do something really big—something where genuinely anything can happen, and will—was a chance, really the first chance we’ve had, to do Unicron right.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958348)
Posted by DeadCaL on May 8th, 2018 @ 9:38pm CDT

Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).

Could you explain for those of us that don't know?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958358)
Posted by Sunstar on May 8th, 2018 @ 11:22pm CDT

DeadCaL wrote:
Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).

Could you explain for those of us that don't know?

visionaries comes to mind.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958378)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 9th, 2018 @ 2:47am CDT

DeadCaL wrote:
Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).

Could you explain for those of us that don't know?

Just read Lost Light. I'll just say there is a lot of OMG your favorite character(s) are dead! Oops we lied they just fine - tune in next time for more cheap shock value. :SICK:

Granted I quit reading LL after the 15th issue because I could just not take the cheap attention grabbing and incessant politics being inserted into it. I'm hoping it's gotten better since then. I know no one is forcing me to read something that isn't my cup of tea but it still bums me out that something that started out good took such a nosedive.

By the way how far into LL do I need to read Unicron 0? I picked it up at my local comic shop and I have been hanging onto it just in case.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958379)
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:05am CDT

I was specifically talking about Visionaries. But that was an interesting reaction I had not expected!

So far, there is very little LL plot feeding into Unicron, thought that may of course change.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958386)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:54am CDT

Va'al wrote:I was specifically talking about Visionaries. But that was an interesting reaction I had not expected!

So far, there is very little LL plot feeding into Unicron, thought that may of course change.

Guess I don't have to force myself to read it then. Oh happy day! :BOWDOWN:

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958406)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2018 @ 8:14am CDT

They've been planning this longer than any of us realized, which is enough to allay any fears I had about a rush job.

(How do I know this? You will know soon! Horrible shameless plug: watch this space in ~12 days)

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958411)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 8:47am CDT

ScottyP wrote:They've been planning this longer than any of us realized, which is enough to allay any fears I had about a rush job.

(How do I know this? You will know soon! Horrible shameless plug: watch this space in ~12 days)

Now I'm curious, but does that mean they knew it would end this continuity when it first was talked about? Or is that something that changed

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958435)
Posted by BumbleDouche on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:28am CDT

"Unicron didn’t really kill very many Transformers" - That's absurd! While they may not have been specifically shown onscreen, they were certainly implied!

When Unicron revealed his robot mode and slammed his fist into Cybertron, the occupying Decepticon forces were decimated to the extent that the pitiful Autobots were finally able to regain control of the planet, something they'd failed at repeatedly over millions of years.

Further, the army of Decepticon survivors exiled to Chaar in the first few episodes of season 3 were too few to be considered a planetary occupation force, so it stands to reason that their absent comrades were in fact destroyed in defense of Cybertron by Unicron.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958441)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:54am CDT

^Shockwave suffered worse than most. Not only was he implied to be directly under Unicron's hand when it hit, but he was never seen or heard of again. Not even by animation error! Let alone there are still some that don't list him among the dead in The Movie.

As an aside, it would be nice if Kranix appears in this mini, in some meaningful way. His concept art did have an altmode after all...

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958461)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 12:41pm CDT

Never realised he had an alt mode,, wonder if there was ever talks of a toy of him from back then.

So I re-read 0 today, and I thought of something that was said at the end of it.

they said that he's getting bigger and stronger the more planets he's consuming (though from what pyra says, I'm also guessing suns aren't off the menu). So how's this for a theory, unicron will only be able to transform into his robot form once so many colony worlds have bit the dust. Additionally what I'm thinking is that the planet mode is more of a lavaral state while the robot mode is his true form.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958463)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2018 @ 12:53pm CDT

As echoed by others, I do hope when Unicron transforms, he does more than just stand there and leer...

Another cool tidbit I read up on Kranix was how he ended up on Quintessa, in the original draft:

TFWiki wrote:A deleted line of dialogue explained that the Quintessons hunted down those who escaped the wrath of Unicron and put them on trial, with the sentence always being the same—death!

Which gives the trials of Quintessons actual purpose :-?

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958483)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CDT

If they went with that, they would have to explain what the connection was between the qunits and unicron was, which depending on how it was handled, could have been fun.

Seeing unicron that big in robot mode makes me hope that someone does fan art down the line of equally big (or bigger) anime mechs taking him apart like tenga toppa gurren laggan (I haven't spelt that right at all) :lol:

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958490)
Posted by Bounti76 on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:04pm CDT

WreckerJack wrote:
DeadCaL wrote:
Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).

Could you explain for those of us that don't know?

Just read Lost Light. I'll just say there is a lot of OMG your favorite character(s) are dead! Oops we lied they just fine - tune in next time for more cheap shock value.

Granted I quit reading LL after the 15th issue because I could just not take the cheap attention grabbing and incessant politics being inserted into it. I'm hoping it's gotten better since then. I know no one is forcing me to read something that isn't my cup of tea but it still bums me out that something that started out good took such a nosedive.

By the way how far into LL do I need to read Unicron 0? I picked it up at my local comic shop and I have been hanging onto it just in case.

I stopped reading when they had Star Saber off Defensor like he (Defensor) was some weak, powerless chump. It reeked of shock value.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958496)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:34pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:If they went with that, they would have to explain what the connection was between the qunits and unicron was, which depending on how it was handled, could have been fun.

It certainly would have been better than Primacron :roll:

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958512)
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 9th, 2018 @ 4:32pm CDT

"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."

How much did he pay you to write that garbage?

Because it's simply not true.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958523)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:06pm CDT

Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."

How much did he pay you to write that garbage?

Because it's simply not true.

No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958524)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:08pm CDT

Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."

How much did he pay you to write that garbage?

Because it's simply not true.

Do you have any examples or is this just your opinion? I agree with the original statement. I mean, Barber cut his teeth making sense of the live action movies since the writers of those films weren't interested in continuity (or explaining things clearly)

@AllNewSuperRobot Anything is better than Primacon. That's why I was thankful that Furman wrote an alternative origin for unicron during his work on the marvel series. At least hasbro seem to favour the primus/unicron origin more than the primacon one. I swear that even I'll lose faith in IDW if they go with the toon origins...I bet the writer's thought they were being really clever when they added that bit in. That episode would have been fine leaving out all mentions of unicron.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958531)
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:25pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."

How much did he pay you to write that garbage?

Because it's simply not true.

No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sure.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958532)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:27pm CDT

Galactic Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."

How much did he pay you to write that garbage?

Because it's simply not true.

No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sure.

True. Barber is almost universally praised for his continuity work. Heck, he made Spotlight: Mirage canon after almost a decade. He is good, I really don't understand what you have against him other than he's part of IDW

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958533)
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:30pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."

How much did he pay you to write that garbage?

Because it's simply not true.

No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sure.

True. Barber is almost universally praised for his continuity work. Heck, he made Spotlight: Mirage canon after almost a decade. He is good, I really don't understand what you have against him other than he's part of IDW

Ummmm he's a terrible writer? I honestly don't see how you can see him as good. The continuity of the IDW TF comics has been terrible. Utterly terrible.

Re: Review of IDW Transformers Unicron #0 - #FCBD (1958534)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:34pm CDT

Galactic Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."

How much did he pay you to write that garbage?

Because it's simply not true.

No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sure.

True. Barber is almost universally praised for his continuity work. Heck, he made Spotlight: Mirage canon after almost a decade. He is good, I really don't understand what you have against him other than he's part of IDW

Ummmm he's a terrible writer? I honestly don't see how you can see him as good. The continuity of the IDW TF comics has been terrible. Utterly terrible.

It really hasn't? It was bad between AHM and the 2009 ongoing because soft reboots and such. Since Death of Optimus Prime, it has been very streamlined, and things have been worked so all of the previous stuff does fit in. So it's been great, there hasn't been anything remotely terrible about the main Transformers titles since the 2009 ongoing.

Some of the (not all, some) crossovers, I will give you, but those that are are very much ignorable

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