Josh Duhamel weighs in on "Core Mythology" for TF3, is asked about Dinobots

Sounds good, but I'd be very surprised if we see the Dinobots in TF3. You never know, though.

I'm gonna say right now that I think Dinobots will in fact be in TF3. I think Bay's "I hate them" speech a while ago was a huge ass swerve and that Dinobots were planned for this movie for some time.

Remember that Bay does like to play with us, like him saying before that Megatron would only appear in ROTF as a flashback, or however he phrased that.

DINOBOTS! ME WANT DINOBOTS!

I want to see Prowl and Sunstreaker

Hmmmm, sounds like theres cause for optimism here.

Damn I was having trouble submitting my comment...Sorry I posted 3 times. I wish there was a delete comment option to take care of that...

When somebody doesnt have the courage to flat out say "NO" then that always means the answer is yes...

Plus Bay probally took a beating for too many characters with wheels for feet...

well furman had to change the name "laserbeak" to buzzsaw in the nefarious mini at the last minute so i reckon you can consider HIM in TF3 at least.

personally i love the idea of ol LB pearching on megs arm again, simply from a fanboy POV.

On the film itself i reckon dinobots are a cert for it. if only becuase now is he first time they can do it. the bots cover got blown big time in ROTF , the whole world knows theyre here so whats the point of disugis now if rolling out devestating force is on the table, and the dinos have that in spades.

i have to say too that this continual reference to "Transformers history" screams film version of some classic story. a little like how x men 3 was essesntially the dark phoenix sage without the aliens mixed with the cure storyline.

hopefully it wont turnout to be as much bollocks as that was, but something like "target 2006" tweaked for the movieverse could be great fun. ok you;d have to substitute certain characters for others(prime standing in for magnus, essentally cutting out operation volcano ) but it IS do able.

in fact i really hope they are doing one of the classic tales as lets be honest, there hasnt exactly been great character development from the first two films in any shape or form.

what this franchise needs is genuine drama, mystery, suspense and character.

the comics in particular had that hands down.

just for the love of christ DONT have unicron, it'd be the death of the franchise as he's untoppable.

why not have Unicron?

this is "bayformers" after all. its not like he'd actually be a humongous robot that turns into a planet and eats other planets. going by the past two movies, he'd probably have the same name, maybe some similar physical features and thats it. i'm sure Bay would have him transform into some huge earthbound thing though but yeah.

remember, these are the same people who originally had Frenzy be Soundwave before they realized the uproar that woulda caused and changed the name. lol

"went back into the history of 'Transformers."

I think it's because of the new writer. I think he's a real TF fan and not like those other two writers who do nothing but destroy canon. This one will be good.

A "no comment" on the Dinobots huh? Hmmm...

I will wager that, if we see the Dinos, we will see everyone's favorite one-eyed bot Shockwave...the Dinos and SHockwave have been linked in the Marvel series AND the new IDW series.

"They didn't really make anything up. They're using stuff that actually existed in the story from before."


Uuh, isn't that pretty much what they already did with the first two films? Might not of used those ideas correctly (see below) and as well (see the films) as they should have, but still. Josh Duhamel should be a politician - he's good at using many words, but actually saying little.


"You're going to see that great core mythology brought to the fore"


Oh yeah? Kinda like the original 13 being pointlessly reduced to 7? That kinda "core mythology"?

Just because the core methos is there doesnt mean the movie will be good. It all depends on writing & directing, something the first 2 movies have lacked. Bay could do a shot for shot remake any TF episode or the first movie and it could still suck. And if i remember correctly some of the actors said ROTF was going to be good. Only way im going to put any optimism into this movie is if they give the script to a random TF fan and they say its good.

I wish the writers of the movies would realize that we don't need them to be dinosaurs anymore. We want the characters. They've existed as other things before and we've accepted them. They're warbots; make them tanks or something.

Blozor wrote:I wish the writers of the movies would realize that we don't need them to be dinosaurs anymore. We want the characters. They've existed as other things before and we've accepted them. They're warbots; make them tanks or something.

Do you really believe that? You know fans won't be happy unless Grimlock was a T-Rex and Swoop was a Pteranadon.

I just want Prowl to finally show up in the movie, preferably with a fight with Barricade.

Megatron Wolf wrote:Only way im going to put any optimism into this movie is if they give the script to a random TF fan and they say its good.

And if that random TF fan happens to be someone who enjoyed the first two movies and believed them to be good?

maybe something to do with Primus or maybe dyno bots vs shockwave
how about have the Quintessons in some shape or form
any of those i think would make for an interesting movie

Megatron Wolf wrote:Just because the core methos is there doesnt mean the movie will be good. It all depends on writing & directing, something the first 2 movies have lacked. Bay could do a shot for shot remake any TF episode or the first movie and it could still suck. And if i remember correctly some of the actors said ROTF was going to be good. Only way im going to put any optimism into this movie is if they give the script to a random TF fan and they say its good.

Im a random TF fan and I thought the ROTF script was good...

I actually liked both movies, and i like michael bay as a director. But, people who say michael bay sucks (ive seen this alot, dont give me hate) because he "ruined" transformers and "raped" my childhood, dont stop and think: "well gee, he didnt write the whole thing, so why dont we blame the writers." again, im not saying everybody has said this. But, i think since Kruger's a TF fan, that he'll bring out some good stuff. I have high hopes for TF3, and it doesnt look like its false hope. I'd like to see more of the classic characters in the new movie, like prowl, sunstreaker, and wheeljack. Maybe even some G2 bots.

I liked both movies. Of course, there were things I would have changed (like trading the Fallen and most of the 2007 Decepticons for the Seekers and Shockwave) but overall I was happy to see a franchise I loved become "cool" again. There's no doubt that the first two movies were made more for the purpose of selling tickets than to appease lifelong TF fans, but honestly how could people realistically expect any differently?

People who think "Michael Bay raped my childhood" need to see some other films from the past such as teh Super Mario Bros. movie and the He-man/Masters of the Universe movie.

It could have been soooooo much worse.

Wow, a whole page of people talking about and critiquing the films in an intelligent way, it's just amazing.


"People who think "Michael Bay raped my childhood" need to see some other films from the past such as teh Super Mario Bros. movie and the He-man/Masters of the Universe movie."


NO KIDDING. He-Man was horrid, I remember how much that one let me down as a kid. And Super Mario was a mess too. With TF we got half decent movies at least.

Delicon wrote:I liked both movies. Of course, there were things I would have changed (like trading the Fallen and most of the 2007 Decepticons for the Seekers and Shockwave) but overall I was happy to see a franchise I loved become "cool" again. There's no doubt that the first two movies were made more for the purpose of selling tickets than to appease lifelong TF fans, but honestly how could people realistically expect any differently?

People who think "Michael Bay raped my childhood" need to see some other films from the past such as teh Super Mario Bros. movie and the He-man/Masters of the Universe movie.

It could have been soooooo much worse.

Those are definitely worse.

Oh gosh..not another off topic movie debate...

On topic, this all sounds cool, if the DinoBots are in it...GOOD, we can get awesome toys of them...
I like that they're using some real stuff, hopefully this means no more mis-named characters.

Hey everyone!

Im new to the pub here, although ive been reading the forums for a while now, i guess ive just never had much to say, i really enjoy reading everyones opinions.

My opinion on the films are that Bay and the crew set out with higher expectations than us loyal transformer fans. I think when he signed on, he wanted to bring Transformers back and introduce the stories and characters to a whole new generation of young fans and make them love the series as much as we do, and i think he has been successful in doing that, he has found a great balance between bringing in masses of new fans, and keeping the legion of fans in mind as well. I think TF3 will be the movie that long time fans of the series have been waiting for, kind of merging old fans and new fans together. You have to keep in mind, that if you were to ask any young transformer fan which version they liked more, the G1 era or the "modern era", they would pick Modern 9 out of 10 times. ROTF was THERE G1 Movie if that makes any sense. Anyway thats what i think haha. Hope to talk with everyone at some point in the future!

I too want dinobots!!!!! But how would they do it????? Dinosaurs is far from a disguise in 2010.

Liftgate wrote:Wow, a whole page of people talking about and critiquing the films in an intelligent way, it's just amazing.


"People who think "Michael Bay raped my childhood" need to see some other films from the past such as teh Super Mario Bros. movie and the He-man/Masters of the Universe movie."


NO KIDDING. He-Man was horrid, I remember how much that one let me down as a kid. And Super Mario was a mess too. With TF we got half decent movies at least.

I never saw SUper Mario Bros., but I happen to love the Dolph Lungren MOTU movie. Yes, hammy 'acting' and dated special effects, but all things considered, I'd rather watch the old MOTU than ROTF. Acting in MOTU is really no worse than that in ROTF, just as an opinion.
NO, I'm not saying that to be difficult, but rather it is a relfection of fact, since my DVD collection at home contains exactly one (1) copy of MOTU on DVD, and zero (0) copies of ROTF on DVD, on purpose mind you. So, no ROTF slam, simply a fact as is portrayed in my life.


On topic, I am confused as to why the infusion of 'core mythology' equals the Dinobots necessarily. Maybe I missed an update or something, but I remember the article with Bay calling the Dinos stupid and whatnot. But why is core mythos being directly equated to the Dinobots and not something like, the matrix not being a jagged prop which readily turns to dust?
If it's because the Dinobots are older in the storyline than the Matrix is, then any guess of core myth is off, becuase now we're just going to look at things in terms of their ages.

EDIT:: I realize its all specualtion, by the way.