KO Shockwave coming soon?
Friday, January 23rd, 2009 11:41PM CST
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There is a new G1 KO to be cautious of. Pictures of a KO Shockwave have appeared on ACToys. There is no word yet when this figure might be released, or what the telling signs will be to identify it.
*In these pictures – the muzzle of the gun is dark purple instead of grey (as on the authentic version). Unfortunately, we unsure if this will be the same on the final product. We will keep you posted with package details.
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*In these pictures – the muzzle of the gun is dark purple instead of grey (as on the authentic version). Unfortunately, we unsure if this will be the same on the final product. We will keep you posted with package details.
Click here to see more.
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Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872559)
Posted by robofreak on January 23rd, 2009 @ 11:43pm CST
Posted by robofreak on January 23rd, 2009 @ 11:43pm CST
Crap like this is why I don't buy much G1 now. KO's have ruined the fun for me.
This does raise a question though. Is'nt the G1 Shockwave mold in a state of limbo at the moment? How on earth did these guys get it? My first assumption was reverse molding, but the figure looks a little too clean for that procedure. I'm guessing that there was more than one set of molds for Shockwave and this one may have been stolen.
This does raise a question though. Is'nt the G1 Shockwave mold in a state of limbo at the moment? How on earth did these guys get it? My first assumption was reverse molding, but the figure looks a little too clean for that procedure. I'm guessing that there was more than one set of molds for Shockwave and this one may have been stolen.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872563)
Posted by Stormrider on January 23rd, 2009 @ 11:55pm CST
Posted by Stormrider on January 23rd, 2009 @ 11:55pm CST
Here are some comparison pictures of the authentic version:
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872581)
Posted by caseymuss on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:31am CST
Posted by caseymuss on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:31am CST
Man hes going to be expensive! Wish Takara would beat the KO guys to the punch.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872618)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 24th, 2009 @ 2:30am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on January 24th, 2009 @ 2:30am CST
I'll be getting this to replace muy original's broken gun arm. FYI mine is the japanese version but the frickin' thing was broken already (same with all the Japan/Takara stocks in my country)
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872639)
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 4:17am CST
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 4:17am CST
I'm not really against or in favor of KOs, but I don't have nothing against them, except that they should never be passed as originals and should have some easy to see give away in both the figure and the box, and also that they should only be for figures that aren't currently being produced but only vintage.
But since G1 Shockwave can't be reissued due to copyright issues (it doesn't matter if they have the mold or not, or even if they re-do it) this is the best thing I can get to have a good and afforadable G1 Shockwave, and I will buy it when it comes out. I was going to buy the cheap KO with a different head and paint it like the G1 and retool its head, but since this is probably comming soon... I'm going to wait for this one instead.
But since G1 Shockwave can't be reissued due to copyright issues (it doesn't matter if they have the mold or not, or even if they re-do it) this is the best thing I can get to have a good and afforadable G1 Shockwave, and I will buy it when it comes out. I was going to buy the cheap KO with a different head and paint it like the G1 and retool its head, but since this is probably comming soon... I'm going to wait for this one instead.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872662)
Posted by Starscream6 on January 24th, 2009 @ 5:12am CST
Posted by Starscream6 on January 24th, 2009 @ 5:12am CST
idc, maybe now i can finally get a G1 shockwave. i get so sick of the scarcity of this figure (or any likeness thereof). the mold and copyright issues really piss me off. sorry im bitter, i love shockwave and hes such a bitch to find and buy for a decent price
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872671)
Posted by Autobot032 on January 24th, 2009 @ 5:37am CST
Posted by Autobot032 on January 24th, 2009 @ 5:37am CST
I'm going to stay on the fence with this issue (I know it's a hotly contested situation) but I will say they did a terrific job of bringing an old mold back to life. Looks like they really put some work into this one.
The quality will probably still be an issue, but it looks like they really tried, at least.
The quality will probably still be an issue, but it looks like they really tried, at least.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872680)
Posted by Zeds on January 24th, 2009 @ 6:40am CST
Posted by Zeds on January 24th, 2009 @ 6:40am CST
One hopes that Hasbro/Tomy will go after them. This may mean that Hasbro/Tomy will reissue him in the Encore line to offset the KO release. One hopes.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872727)
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 8:56am CST
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 8:56am CST
These high quality, high priced knockoffs probably wouldn't exist if Hasbro/Takara would get off their butts and reissue the original, or at least make a Classics Skockwave. The Knockoffers know there is a demand for this toy. We are now getting an unofficial smallest, and now a "replica" - for a long time we had obvious knockoffs that were selling for $20+, so this sucker will probably sell well.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872730)
Posted by D-340 on January 24th, 2009 @ 9:00am CST
Doubt it. Has/Tomy don't have the rights to the mold, Ol' Shockwave/Lazerwave's original toy was licensed for a different company. They could nail them for likeness rights at best.
As far as this KO, I dunno. Don't like the idea of these KO's being marketed as the real deal. But as Starscream6 said, G1 Shockwave is such a horrible pain in the ass to get at all, let alone in good shape and at a decent price. I may get this one.
Posted by D-340 on January 24th, 2009 @ 9:00am CST
Zeds wrote:One hopes that Hasbro/Tomy will go after them. This may mean that Hasbro/Tomy will reissue him in the Encore line to offset the KO release. One hopes.
Doubt it. Has/Tomy don't have the rights to the mold, Ol' Shockwave/Lazerwave's original toy was licensed for a different company. They could nail them for likeness rights at best.
As far as this KO, I dunno. Don't like the idea of these KO's being marketed as the real deal. But as Starscream6 said, G1 Shockwave is such a horrible pain in the ass to get at all, let alone in good shape and at a decent price. I may get this one.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872759)
Posted by Bumblebeast on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:06am CST
Posted by Bumblebeast on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:06am CST
I'm getting it, because there's no way i can afford a ridiculously expensive G1 Shockwave. Most of the time they aren't even complete.
A good KO can be worked through paint applications and stickers, so it's a good hobbie opportunity too.
A good KO can be worked through paint applications and stickers, so it's a good hobbie opportunity too.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872763)
Posted by GetterDragun on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:18am CST
Sorry, but this still doesn't get you a G1 Shockwave.
Posted by GetterDragun on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:18am CST
Starscream6 wrote:idc, maybe now i can finally get a G1 shockwave. i get so sick of the scarcity of this figure (or any likeness thereof). the mold and copyright issues really piss me off. sorry im bitter, i love shockwave and hes such a bitch to find and buy for a decent price
Sorry, but this still doesn't get you a G1 Shockwave.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872764)
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:20am CST
Hang on...
If this comes out at the sort of price that knockoffs like Mirage did, I can't see the appeal. If I'm going to pay serious money, I'd rather have the real thing than line some KO company's pockets.
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:20am CST
Yeah, damn Hasbro for not breaking copyright law! Hooray for those brave criminals who do!Scaleface wrote:These high quality, high priced knockoffs probably wouldn't exist if Hasbro/Takara would get off their butts and reissue the original, or at least make a Classics Skockwave.
Hang on...
If this comes out at the sort of price that knockoffs like Mirage did, I can't see the appeal. If I'm going to pay serious money, I'd rather have the real thing than line some KO company's pockets.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872782)
Posted by bumble_bee_68 on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:42am CST
Posted by bumble_bee_68 on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:42am CST
Ummm....for a K.O., it does'nt look bad.
I can't read Japanese on the website, so I can't find a link for it anywhere...
anyway, I just placed a bid on an original 1983 Radio Shack "Galactic Man" aka Shockwave...yes, I believe it was an American K.O. of the Takara Laserwave (if I'm wrong, let me know) So I hope I win!!
I can't read Japanese on the website, so I can't find a link for it anywhere...
anyway, I just placed a bid on an original 1983 Radio Shack "Galactic Man" aka Shockwave...yes, I believe it was an American K.O. of the Takara Laserwave (if I'm wrong, let me know) So I hope I win!!
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872784)
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:51am CST
It will probably be available in a few weeks or less on yahobby.com. You'll probably also be able to get it later on ioffer.com. Those are the only 2 places for KOs I know of. Oh, you can also find KOs on Yahoo Japan.
Just a note to the "KO haters", please don't try to get yahobby.com into problems. They sell the KOs as KOs and are honest sellers.
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:51am CST
bumble_bee_68 wrote:Ummm....for a K.O., it does'nt look bad.
I can't read Japanese on the website, so I can't find a link for it anywhere...
anyway, I just placed a bid on an original 1983 Radio Shack "Galactic Man" aka Shockwave...yes, I believe it was an American K.O. of the Takara Laserwave (if I'm wrong, let me know) So I hope I win!!
It will probably be available in a few weeks or less on yahobby.com. You'll probably also be able to get it later on ioffer.com. Those are the only 2 places for KOs I know of. Oh, you can also find KOs on Yahoo Japan.
Just a note to the "KO haters", please don't try to get yahobby.com into problems. They sell the KOs as KOs and are honest sellers.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872786)
Posted by Dead Metal on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:54am CST
No that's not a KO, Takara wasn't the original manufacturer of the Shockwave mold and got the licence to make it from another toy maker. That toy maker sold the rights to produce that mold to Hasbro, Takara and Radioshack during the same time frame.
Posted by Dead Metal on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:54am CST
bumble_bee_68 wrote:Ummm....for a K.O., it does'nt look bad.
I can't read Japanese on the website, so I can't find a link for it anywhere...
anyway, I just placed a bid on an original 1983 Radio Shack "Galactic Man" aka Shockwave...yes, I believe it was an American K.O. of the Takara Laserwave (if I'm wrong, let me know) So I hope I win!!
No that's not a KO, Takara wasn't the original manufacturer of the Shockwave mold and got the licence to make it from another toy maker. That toy maker sold the rights to produce that mold to Hasbro, Takara and Radioshack during the same time frame.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872810)
Posted by Autoclot on January 24th, 2009 @ 11:43am CST
The grey one? I have one of those on my shelf (had it since it was new). He may have required some repairs over the years, and his battery cover may be missing, but he's still very, very cool.
Although he's "Galactic Man" I got him as Shockwave, since it's the closest that was released here. Made my Christmas very happy, that year. I think all the bleepy noises probably annoyed the hell out of my parents, though
Hope you win your auction
Posted by Autoclot on January 24th, 2009 @ 11:43am CST
bumble_bee_68 wrote:Ummm....for a K.O., it does'nt look bad.
I can't read Japanese on the website, so I can't find a link for it anywhere...
anyway, I just placed a bid on an original 1983 Radio Shack "Galactic Man" aka Shockwave...yes, I believe it was an American K.O. of the Takara Laserwave (if I'm wrong, let me know) So I hope I win!!
The grey one? I have one of those on my shelf (had it since it was new). He may have required some repairs over the years, and his battery cover may be missing, but he's still very, very cool.
Although he's "Galactic Man" I got him as Shockwave, since it's the closest that was released here. Made my Christmas very happy, that year. I think all the bleepy noises probably annoyed the hell out of my parents, though
Hope you win your auction
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872818)
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:07pm CST
I think you missed the point. I think Hasbro or Takara would have the resources to either make a new mold that is similar for Universe/Classics, or purchase the original license again for a reissue. They went to all the trouble of getting the name back, and for what? So we could cancel the Titanium figure, have a tiny Mini-Con jet and some stupid TF animated version of Stretch Armstrong? I'd like to see SOME type of real or updated Shockwave form the Hasbro people.
Heck, just upscale this sucker to Ultra size and add some electronics, and I'd be happy. (okay, add some ears too!)
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:07pm CST
Sledge wrote:Yeah, damn Hasbro for not breaking copyright law! Hooray for those brave criminals who do!Scaleface wrote:These high quality, high priced knockoffs probably wouldn't exist if Hasbro/Takara would get off their butts and reissue the original, or at least make a Classics Skockwave.
I think you missed the point. I think Hasbro or Takara would have the resources to either make a new mold that is similar for Universe/Classics, or purchase the original license again for a reissue. They went to all the trouble of getting the name back, and for what? So we could cancel the Titanium figure, have a tiny Mini-Con jet and some stupid TF animated version of Stretch Armstrong? I'd like to see SOME type of real or updated Shockwave form the Hasbro people.
Heck, just upscale this sucker to Ultra size and add some electronics, and I'd be happy. (okay, add some ears too!)
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872819)
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:17pm CST
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:17pm CST
Do you know who has the license for the Shockwave mold?
And maybe a Universe version will happen in the future, but it's not possible to see all the characters everyone wants at once.
And maybe a Universe version will happen in the future, but it's not possible to see all the characters everyone wants at once.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872824)
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:27pm CST
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:27pm CST
Well, they could wait to see who sues the KO maker, and then we would know who owns the mold.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872826)
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:28pm CST
I wonder if it's the KO company who has the license
, anyway, they don't care if they have it or not lol .
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:28pm CST
Sledge wrote:Do you know who has the license for the Shockwave mold?
I wonder if it's the KO company who has the license
, anyway, they don't care if they have it or not lol .
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872828)
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:30pm CST
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:30pm CST
Scaleface wrote:Well, they could wait to see who sues the KO maker, and then we would know who owns the mold.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872851)
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 1:23pm CST
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 1:23pm CST
ITT: Elitism at it's best! Oldfags vs. newfags in an epic battle over who owns the rights to a 20 year old mold! Who actually owns it? Not even Toyco knows/or is saying. TakaraTomy/Hasbro could reissue it if they were willing to repay licensing fees, and front the cost for them to recast the mold from toys. Because as it stands the mold itself is missing, which means there might not be a chance of finding it. The KO itself is most likely cast from actual Shockwave figures and not a copy of the mold. There's still hope that they will however because Omega Supreme has been reissued and he was also licensed from another company. Of course this also means that Jetfire could be reissued too (lol yeah right. Tatsunoko's not going to let that happen anytime soon.)
http://www.tformers.com/article.php?sid=9709
No offense to anyone in this thread but next time instead of coming off as a stuck up basement dwelling neckbeard you might want to hit the newfags with the science instead. You know being helpful to them to keep them in the fandom and stuff. Instead of ya know...running them off by being smug about knowing more then them. Food for thought.
tl;dr don't hold your breath for an Encore Shockwave anytime soon, but it might still be possible.
http://www.tformers.com/article.php?sid=9709
No offense to anyone in this thread but next time instead of coming off as a stuck up basement dwelling neckbeard you might want to hit the newfags with the science instead. You know being helpful to them to keep them in the fandom and stuff. Instead of ya know...running them off by being smug about knowing more then them. Food for thought.
tl;dr don't hold your breath for an Encore Shockwave anytime soon, but it might still be possible.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872878)
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 2:15pm CST
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 2:15pm CST
Reported. Saying "no offence" doesn't excuse being offensive.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872925)
Posted by Barrelass on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:10pm CST
Really, you reported him? You get in more squabbles than anyone on this bored. Really?
Posted by Barrelass on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:10pm CST
Sledge wrote:Reported. Saying "no offence" doesn't excuse being offensive.
Really, you reported him? You get in more squabbles than anyone on this bored. Really?
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872933)
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:17pm CST
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:17pm CST
And I've been asked not to flame the crap out of people. Kinda limits my options.
Oh, and the word you wanted was "board" not "bored." Feel better now?
Oh, and the word you wanted was "board" not "bored." Feel better now?
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872936)
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:19pm CST
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:19pm CST
Grow up Sledge. This is why people avoid parts of this site you know.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872937)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:20pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:20pm CST
How the hell did they get a mold? Does this mean there is one out there and we might see a real remake? I always wanted a Shockwave so if these are cheap ill buy one. I doubt it since they'll masquerading as the real thing. I already have a crappy KO version with a different head so this would be welcome in my collection.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872942)
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:23pm CST
Posted by Sledge on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:23pm CST
I really doubt this'll be cheap. Probably be in a repro G1 box just to further annoy people who collect G1 toys and make it harder to know what you're buying on ebay.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872943)
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:24pm CST
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:24pm CST
I'd say they most likely bought a couple Shockwave's on Ebay and cast molds off of the toys and parts themselves Megatron_Wolf. It's how some reproduction makers repro G.I. Joe guns and such.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872944)
Posted by City Commander on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:25pm CST
Posted by City Commander on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:25pm CST
Where da love peeps?
I'm gonna assume they reverse-engineered the mold from the toy.
Cos, y'know, I'm told it happens
I'm gonna assume they reverse-engineered the mold from the toy.
Cos, y'know, I'm told it happens
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (872946)
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:26pm CST
Posted by Loki God Of Mischief on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:26pm CST
That's how they actually were able to reissue Soundwave, City Commander. They used old toys/parts to cast molds from.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873004)
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on January 24th, 2009 @ 5:09pm CST
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on January 24th, 2009 @ 5:09pm CST
I'll buy a ko Shockwave. I have had no problems with g1 ko's I bought in the past. I display orginals but sometimes i will blow some coin on a g1 ko just to be able to mess with it and not give a damn if I break it or what not. Sometimes I use ko's for kitbashing and such or spare parts for g1's.
I am sure they reverse engineered the mold to make the ko. that's why they are a little off sometimes. I have been looking for a ko Sunstreaker and Wheeljack. Not sure if they made em yet or not.
I am sure they reverse engineered the mold to make the ko. that's why they are a little off sometimes. I have been looking for a ko Sunstreaker and Wheeljack. Not sure if they made em yet or not.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873031)
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 6:07pm CST
Reported? I'm still not even sure what he said!!???!
Posted by Scaleface on January 24th, 2009 @ 6:07pm CST
Sledge wrote:Reported. Saying "no offence" doesn't excuse being offensive.
Reported? I'm still not even sure what he said!!???!
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873053)
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 6:34pm CST
Yes, Wheeljack has been KO reissued in high quality, just go to yahobby.com or ioffer.com and look for it. But it costs $65.xx plus shipping...
Posted by capellamusic on January 24th, 2009 @ 6:34pm CST
OPTIMUS MAGNUS wrote:I'll buy a ko Shockwave. I have had no problems with g1 ko's I bought in the past. I display orginals but sometimes i will blow some coin on a g1 ko just to be able to mess with it and not give a damn if I break it or what not. Sometimes I use ko's for kitbashing and such or spare parts for g1's.
I am sure they reverse engineered the mold to make the ko. that's why they are a little off sometimes. I have been looking for a ko Sunstreaker and Wheeljack. Not sure if they made em yet or not.
Yes, Wheeljack has been KO reissued in high quality, just go to yahobby.com or ioffer.com and look for it. But it costs $65.xx plus shipping...
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873071)
Posted by ponycorn on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:01pm CST
Posted by ponycorn on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:01pm CST
I wonder if parts of it could be used to make the incomplete real Shockwaves that people have out there whole again. Not a bad thing.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873075)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:08pm CST
You just got a warning for this post.
Thanks!
Posted by Cyber Bishop on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:08pm CST
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:ITT: Elitism at it's best! Oldfags vs. newfags in an epic battle over who owns the rights to a 20 year old mold! Who actually owns it? Not even Toyco knows/or is saying. TakaraTomy/Hasbro could reissue it if they were willing to repay licensing fees, and front the cost for them to recast the mold from toys. Because as it stands the mold itself is missing, which means there might not be a chance of finding it. The KO itself is most likely cast from actual Shockwave figures and not a copy of the mold. There's still hope that they will however because Omega Supreme has been reissued and he was also licensed from another company. Of course this also means that Jetfire could be reissued too (lol yeah right. Tatsunoko's not going to let that happen anytime soon.)
http://www.tformers.com/article.php?sid=9709
No offense to anyone in this thread but next time instead of coming off as a stuck up basement dwelling neckbeard you might want to hit the newfags with the science instead. You know being helpful to them to keep them in the fandom and stuff. Instead of ya know...running them off by being smug about knowing more then them. Food for thought.
tl;dr don't hold your breath for an Encore Shockwave anytime soon, but it might still be possible.
You just got a warning for this post.
Thanks!
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873076)
Posted by Stormrider on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:11pm CST
I think there is enough technology out there nowadays to remake any mold (whether or not the mold exists).
That doesn't change the fact that they're selling something that is counterfeit. It's kind of like the phrase "an honest thief".
Posted by Stormrider on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:11pm CST
Scaleface wrote:Well, they could wait to see who sues the KO maker, and then we would know who owns the mold.
Megatron_Wolf wrote:How the hell did they get a mold? Does this mean there is one out there and we might see a real remake? I always wanted a Shockwave so if these are cheap ill buy one. I doubt it since they'll masquerading as the real thing. I already have a crappy KO version with a different head so this would be welcome in my collection.
I think there is enough technology out there nowadays to remake any mold (whether or not the mold exists).
bumble_bee_68 wrote:
Just a note to the "KO haters", please don't try to get yahobby.com into problems. They sell the KOs as KOs and are honest sellers.
That doesn't change the fact that they're selling something that is counterfeit. It's kind of like the phrase "an honest thief".
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873079)
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:20pm CST
Ah, sweet! thanks!
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on January 24th, 2009 @ 7:20pm CST
capellamusic wrote:OPTIMUS MAGNUS wrote:I'll buy a ko Shockwave. I have had no problems with g1 ko's I bought in the past. I display orginals but sometimes i will blow some coin on a g1 ko just to be able to mess with it and not give a damn if I break it or what not. Sometimes I use ko's for kitbashing and such or spare parts for g1's.
I am sure they reverse engineered the mold to make the ko. that's why they are a little off sometimes. I have been looking for a ko Sunstreaker and Wheeljack. Not sure if they made em yet or not.
Yes, Wheeljack has been KO reissued in high quality, just go to yahobby.com or ioffer.com and look for it. But it costs $65.xx plus shipping...
Ah, sweet! thanks!
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873232)
Posted by slip on January 25th, 2009 @ 1:44am CST
Posted by slip on January 25th, 2009 @ 1:44am CST
Acttualy I can see both side those that have a origonal worth real money if it is MISB, But folks molds can be replicated paint schemes are easy heck even boxEs and bubbles are avalible THROUGH OUT THE LINE SHOW ME A NOTARIZED CERTIFACET OF AUTHENTICIY TO GO WITH YOUR COMPLAINT. or just enjoy your hobby like any collector.
PS knock off suck but till a TF that is worth more then a Bentley it does'nt really mean much in this attention defecite market of today. IMHO feel free to PM me if you wish to do more then disregad my opinion. Cause the end all be all it's really only worth what you wanna pay for it.
PS knock off suck but till a TF that is worth more then a Bentley it does'nt really mean much in this attention defecite market of today. IMHO feel free to PM me if you wish to do more then disregad my opinion. Cause the end all be all it's really only worth what you wanna pay for it.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873282)
Posted by GetterDragun on January 25th, 2009 @ 8:22am CST
Actually, it's worth what others want to pay for it.
Posted by GetterDragun on January 25th, 2009 @ 8:22am CST
slip wrote:PS knock off suck but till a TF that is worth more then a Bentley it does'nt really mean much in this attention defecite market of today. IMHO feel free to PM me if you wish to do more then disregad my opinion. Cause the end all be all it's really only worth what you wanna pay for it.
Actually, it's worth what others want to pay for it.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873359)
Posted by drfeelgood81083 on January 25th, 2009 @ 12:38pm CST
Posted by drfeelgood81083 on January 25th, 2009 @ 12:38pm CST
Ok.. they aren't just throwing the parts from a dismatled transformer and casting negatives of the toy and pouring plastic in .. that just isn't how mold creation works, even reverse engineered ones. There are some means of doing something like casting, but it is very limited to the amount of shots/ cycles that it can go trough as well as the material that the finished parts can be made from.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873370)
Posted by BigRobotAlligator on January 25th, 2009 @ 1:08pm CST
Posted by BigRobotAlligator on January 25th, 2009 @ 1:08pm CST
As long as sellers are honest(and some aren't so we have to exercise caution) I have no problem with ko's. I have a really nice Shockwave but have wanted a box for it forever, and those don't often come up for sale. If the do a G1ccurate box for it I'm definitely getting one. keeping the box, and selling or repainting the figure in a more cartoon accurate lavender color scheme.
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Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873407)
Posted by bumble_bee_68 on January 25th, 2009 @ 2:06pm CST
Thanks. Will know by tomorrow (Monday the 26th of Jan)
Will let you you know here on this thread!
Posted by bumble_bee_68 on January 25th, 2009 @ 2:06pm CST
Autoclot wrote:bumble_bee_68 wrote:Ummm....for a K.O., it does'nt look bad.
I can't read Japanese on the website, so I can't find a link for it anywhere...
anyway, I just placed a bid on an original 1983 Radio Shack "Galactic Man" aka Shockwave...yes, I believe it was an American K.O. of the Takara Laserwave (if I'm wrong, let me know) So I hope I win!!
The grey one? I have one of those on my shelf (had it since it was new). He may have required some repairs over the years, and his battery cover may be missing, but he's still very, very cool.
Although he's "Galactic Man" I got him as Shockwave, since it's the closest that was released here. Made my Christmas very happy, that year. I think all the bleepy noises probably annoyed the hell out of my parents, though
Hope you win your auction
Thanks. Will know by tomorrow (Monday the 26th of Jan)
Will let you you know here on this thread!
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873412)
Posted by Hyper-Chicken on January 25th, 2009 @ 2:18pm CST
Posted by Hyper-Chicken on January 25th, 2009 @ 2:18pm CST
Yes pelase let the rest of us know. I may want ot pick one up myself.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873413)
Posted by Dead Metal on January 25th, 2009 @ 2:19pm CST
Show us a pic or two of him once you have him!
Posted by Dead Metal on January 25th, 2009 @ 2:19pm CST
bumble_bee_68 wrote:Autoclot wrote:bumble_bee_68 wrote:Ummm....for a K.O., it does'nt look bad.
I can't read Japanese on the website, so I can't find a link for it anywhere...
anyway, I just placed a bid on an original 1983 Radio Shack "Galactic Man" aka Shockwave...yes, I believe it was an American K.O. of the Takara Laserwave (if I'm wrong, let me know) So I hope I win!!
The grey one? I have one of those on my shelf (had it since it was new). He may have required some repairs over the years, and his battery cover may be missing, but he's still very, very cool.
Although he's "Galactic Man" I got him as Shockwave, since it's the closest that was released here. Made my Christmas very happy, that year. I think all the bleepy noises probably annoyed the hell out of my parents, though
Hope you win your auction
Thanks. Will know by tomorrow (Monday the 26th of Jan)
Will let you you know here on this thread!
Show us a pic or two of him once you have him!
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873436)
Posted by GetterDragun on January 25th, 2009 @ 3:14pm CST
Posted by GetterDragun on January 25th, 2009 @ 3:14pm CST
I have Galactic man and regular Shockwave. Same level of quality and same noises if I recall. I call Shackwave (Yes, that's the gray one's fan name) my Diaclone Shockwave.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873509)
Posted by SentinelA on January 25th, 2009 @ 5:19pm CST
Posted by SentinelA on January 25th, 2009 @ 5:19pm CST
People who are down on KOs are starting to piss me off! I'd be so glad to get this Shockwave KO especially considering that I once paid $85 for a used Shockwave that can fully stand up. And how else are we going to get a true Bluestreak. I say if Takara to Dee DeeDee to put this out more power to the KOs. Speaking of which, I have not seen the true blue BlueStreak KO on Ebay. Does Ebay have some law about KOs or are retailers getting to uppidy to sell them?
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873517)
Posted by Sledge on January 25th, 2009 @ 5:30pm CST
Posted by Sledge on January 25th, 2009 @ 5:30pm CST
Strangely enough, eBay have this policy of not allowing people to sell illegal items. Crazy, I know, but there it is.
Re: KO Shockwave coming soon? (873567)
Posted by Counterpunch on January 25th, 2009 @ 6:35pm CST
KOs are garbage. The whole Metroplex issue should have put this argument to bed.
Posted by Counterpunch on January 25th, 2009 @ 6:35pm CST
SentinelA wrote:People who are down on KOs are starting to piss me off! I'd be so glad to get this Shockwave KO especially considering that I once paid $85 for a used Shockwave that can fully stand up. And how else are we going to get a true Bluestreak. I say if Takara to Dee DeeDee to put this out more power to the KOs. Speaking of which, I have not seen the true blue BlueStreak KO on Ebay. Does Ebay have some law about KOs or are retailers getting to uppidy to sell them?
KOs are garbage. The whole Metroplex issue should have put this argument to bed.
