Kre-O Transformers: Age of Extinction TV Spot - Galvatron Factory Battle, Grimlock Street Attack

What's up with that purple Galvatron Kreon?

Man, I really hope purple Galvatron gets an actual release, it looks way better than the all-silver version. *glances at own Kreons* Hmm, even if there are already a lot of purple Cons...

Crazyness! I actually like that flip and change Lockdown.

Quick question: do we know if the OP Evolution 2-Pack is a store exclusive?

megatronus wrote:Quick question: do we know if the OP Evolution 2-Pack is a store exclusive?

All Evolution 2-packs are Toys 'R Us exclusives in the US and Japan.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

megatronus wrote:Quick question: do we know if the OP Evolution 2-Pack is a store exclusive?

All Evolution 2-packs are Toys 'R Us exclusives in the US and Japan.

Good to know... thanks!

if anyone is interested, BBTS has Rusty Prime up for preorder.

Transformers: The Lost Age Evasion Mode Optimus Prime Rusty Exclusive BBTS for $69.99 release slated for August

shajaki wrote:if anyone is interested, BBTS has Rusty Prime up for preorder.

Transformers: The Lost Age Evasion Mode Optimus Prime Rusty Exclusive BBTS for $69.99 release slated for August

That's... really expensive for a Voyager figure, especially one that is missing quite a few paint apps. I know it's probably due to the exclusivity of the figure and import costs, but still...

Metro Prime wrote:

shajaki wrote:if anyone is interested, BBTS has Rusty Prime up for preorder.

Transformers: The Lost Age Evasion Mode Optimus Prime Rusty Exclusive BBTS for $69.99 release slated for August

That's... really expensive for a Voyager figure, especially one that is missing quite a few paint apps. I know it's probably due to the exclusivity of the figure and import costs, but still...

I wouldn't say he has less paint, it's just smeared all over the figure and gun. The rest is all one single plastic color.

Just got my mitts on AOE Hound and I like it. Despite the cheaper feeling plastic and the lightness I think it's a well thought out design. I got a tiny bit annoyed with the very rear of the truck not clipping together but it does go if you work it. Back to robot mode and going to load him up with his very many weapons.

Ravage XK wrote:Just got my mitts on AOE Hound and I like it. Despite the cheaper feeling plastic and the lightness I think it's a well thought out design. I got a tiny bit annoyed with the very rear of the truck not clipping together but it does go if you work it. Back to robot mode and going to load him up with his very many weapons.

Awesome, did you find him in stores or was it ordered online?

Ordered online. I rarely buy any from stores any more.... Getting lazy and they turn up at work.

Site sponsor BigBadToyStore's latest round of Transformers: Age of Extinction pre-orders may have revealed a character. They recently listed Voyager Wave 3, Autobot Drift in his helicopter mode and Dinobots Slog. Those we already knew about. The interesting info comes from Deluxe Wave 3, which according to the listing consists of:

• 1x TRA MV4 GEN DLX BUMBLEBEE
• 1x TRA MV4 GEN DLX SNARL
• 1x TRA MV4 HOT SHOT

So who is Hot Shot? A toy only character, or a yet to be revealed on screen character? One vehicle that immediately comes to mind is the Chevy Sonic RS. It's been seen extensively during filming, but never confirmed to have a robot mode. Pure speculation of course, as no images accompany the pre-order.

How much you wanna bet Hot Shot is a repaint of Crosshairs? Certainly fits the name.

Could also pull an Incinerator and make a screen car into a full figure,

El Duque wrote:

• 1x TRA MV4 GEN DLX BUMBLEBEE
• 1x TRA MV4 GEN DLX SNARL
• 1x TRA MV4 HOT SHOT

So who is Hot Shot? A toy only character, or a yet to be revealed on screen character? One vehicle that immediately comes to mind is the Chevy Sonic RS. It's been seen extensively during filming, but never confirmed to have a robot mode. Pure speculation of course, as no images accompany the pre-order.

Actually what really surprises me about this toyline so far is how all the toys revealed may be included in the movie. I say "may" because we have yet to see ALL the dinobots and though Drift is in the film, he may not also be a helicopter. But still, compared to previous films, they kept it pretty much with just the on screen characters. I am really hoping they actually release more toys of other non screen characters. This has usually been a fun way of creating new interesting molds like Bludgeon, Terradive, Skyhammer, Breacher, Seaspray and movie Dirge.

william-james88 wrote:

El Duque wrote:

• 1x TRA MV4 GEN DLX BUMBLEBEE
• 1x TRA MV4 GEN DLX SNARL
• 1x TRA MV4 HOT SHOT

So who is Hot Shot? A toy only character, or a yet to be revealed on screen character? One vehicle that immediately comes to mind is the Chevy Sonic RS. It's been seen extensively during filming, but never confirmed to have a robot mode. Pure speculation of course, as no images accompany the pre-order.

Actually what really surprises me about this toyline so far is how all the toys revealed may be included in the movie. I say "may" because we have yet to see ALL the dinobots and though Drift is in the film, he may not also be a helicopter. But still, compared to previous films, they kept it pretty much with just the on screen characters. I am really hoping they actually release more toys of other non screen characters. This has usually been a fun way of creating new interesting molds like Bludgeon, Terradive, Skyhammer, Breacher, Seaspray and movie Dirge.

Even with previous films, the non-movie guys tend to be more prominent as it gets later in the toyline, though not necessarily to the degree it is this time around. Another part of it is that they're not doing basic/scout sized figures any more, as lot of the toyline-original characters from the past movie toykines were that size.

*sigh*


Hasbro said they are not making characters up for the toys this time which is probably because this time the movies are not their own line

they are generations so they are sharing the shelves with the other generation toys




and on the leaked toy sheets there is a season 3 toy called "rally car"


The Sonic is a rally car


and in the 15 minute showing that was shown to some folks Shane is saying to Cade when Tessa is being captured "Don't go He'll kill you" or something along those lines and that was sometime after he is introduced by driving the Sonic and hitting a guy in the face (part of it was seen in some spots)




So....... a bunch of evidence Hot Shot is the Sonic and he is a hi and bye character and also just to let you guys know the Sonic was seen with Bumblebee, Crosshairs and Drift in texas the pics were not posted until filming was long done though.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Hasbro said they are not making characters up for the toys this time

When did they say that? This is the first I'm hearing about it.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Hasbro said they are not making characters up for the toys this time

When did they say that? This is the first I'm hearing about it.

I forgot where but it was like toy fair or a convention i was not there.



but seriously look at the toyline so far (not including Japan's lost age line)


All of those characters are in the film they also don't usually include the toys of not in the movie characters until about wave 4.

I dont know, lot of toys didn't show up on screen, like powerglide, Guzzle, Roller, Hatchet, runamuk, spinister, blades, duststorm, sunstorm, beachcomber, springer, tankor, thundercraker, skywarp, payload, sonar, dephtcharge, skyhammer, deadend, heavy load, smokescreen, swerve, breakdown, wrekcage, blazemaster, cliffjumper, wideload, air raid, and a lot more that came out only toys.

BERSEKAEL wrote:I dont know, lot of toys didn't show up on screen, like powerglide, Guzzle, Roller, Hatchet, runamuk, spinister, blades, duststorm, sunstorm, beachcomber, springer, tankor, thundercraker, skywarp, payload, sonar, dephtcharge, skyhammer, deadend, heavy load, smokescreen, swerve, breakdown, wrekcage, blazemaster, cliffjumper, wideload, air raid, and a lot more that came out only toys.

Yeah Hasbro said they are not doing that this time.

Forget Hot Shot, I'm more interested in this Deluxe class Snarl. Maybe I won't need to waste $30 on the voyager.

DinobotScorn wrote:Forget Hot Shot, I'm more interested in this Deluxe class Snarl. Maybe I won't need to waste $30 on the voyager.

So far, Snarl's only been announced as a deluxe, AFAIK. He's the stegosaurus. The Voyager is Slog, the Brachiosaurus/"Brontosaurus"/one of those long-neck type dinosaurs.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

DinobotScorn wrote:Forget Hot Shot, I'm more interested in this Deluxe class Snarl. Maybe I won't need to waste $30 on the voyager.

So far, Snarl's only been announced as a deluxe, AFAIK. He's the stegosaurus. The Voyager is Slog, the Brachiosaurus/"Brontosaurus"/one of those long-neck type dinosaurs.

Yeah, there is no Voyager Snarl.

It would be nice if it was a 'Con. God forbid there be more than three mainline villains as toys. Otherwise deluxe Lockdown (and presumably a repainted 'Bee as Stinger) are just getting dog-piled by Autobots.

I noticed something interesting today. Look at deluxe Slash. Now look at one-step Slash. 1-step Slash is basically lighter shade of deluxe Slash's colors... But the colors have traded places between the two toys for some reason.

Hey guys,

Here is some news for Canadian TF fans regarding AOE.

The evolution 2 packs are available for pre-order, but on this side of the border, the mini-con is NOT free. The deluxe 2 packs cost 19.99 and the Grimlock 2 pack costs 49.99 (this one is actually in stock while the others are still pre-order only).
http://www.toysrus.ca/family/index.jsp?categoryId=37602466&ab=TRU_LP_Transformers4_Preorder_051614

Also, a list of the toysrus exclusive toys preorder dates can also be found on the site. This hints at 4 more exclusives from now until September. I am guessing that Juy 1st will be the day we can order the Optimus evolution 2 pack.
You cans ee this when you scroll down the following link.

http://www.toysrus.ca/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=13016092&ab=TRU_RR_Transformers4_060314

The link also states the following activities planned for Toysrus all across Canada:

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Starts: Friday June 27th – July 11th, 2014 OR until quantities of the Transformers Scratch & Reveal Cards and giveaways last.

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*Cineplex Transformers: Age Of Extinction movie ticket stub must be surrendered at time of redemption. No mechanical reproductions of Cineplex Transformers: Age of Extinction movie ticket stubs are permitted. Limit one scratch card per Cineplex Transformers: Age of Extinction movie ticket stub per person per day.



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Shuttershock wrote:It would be nice if it was a 'Con. God forbid there be more than three mainline villains as toys. Otherwise deluxe Lockdown (and presumably a repainted 'Bee as Stinger) are just getting dog-piled by Autobots.

With the exception of Beat Hunters, Hasbro seems to have been skimping on 'cons in general lately. Granted, not usually to this degree, but a LOT of the recent toylines lean somewhat to the bot side, in terms of both more figures and bigger ones.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:It would be nice if it was a 'Con. God forbid there be more than three mainline villains as toys. Otherwise deluxe Lockdown (and presumably a repainted 'Bee as Stinger) are just getting dog-piled by Autobots.

With the exception of Beat Hunters, Hasbro seems to have been skimping on 'cons in general lately. Granted, not usually to this degree, but a LOT of the recent toylines lean somewhat to the bot side, in terms of both more figures and bigger ones.

Maybe Hasbro finally looked up and said, "Oh hell, we let Bay and Kruger kill off the Big Four last movie. What are we gonna do now?"

Kind of reminds me of the old Power Rangers problem, where they'd make one bad guy for every ranger team. At least Prime-verse gave us the phenomenal Vehicon toys for army building.

What I find highly irritating about this line, Or at least one of many points) is that they lump the movie crap in with Generations yet they are still running a specific "Generations" line with separate packaging... for the moment. The stores are keeping both lines separate and jacking up the prices on the movie line yet the listing above suggests that the figures are the same line (MV4 GEN) and this is just basically giving either Hasbro or the retailers an opportunity to screw us.
No, don't bother to try to break it down and "explain it" to me. I don't want to hear it, it's bullsh** plain and simple and utterly stupid. As far as I'm concerned they are two very distinct lines and the only thing that they have in common is that Hasbro is doing a stellar job of screwing them both up.

And as far as this Hot Shot character goes... it's a re-paint, I'll bet money on it. It's wave 3, we still don't have full listings of cast and toys and Hasbro is in their "We don't give a sh**" mode and looking to fleece parents and youngsters for every last red cent so of course we are going to get myriad repaints and cheap filler so they can drag this line out as long as possible with just teases of "new" characters. Marketing 101 folks, plain and simple. Don't think for one second that there is an ounce of loyalty or any respect for continuity or regard for fans. Whatever you have your hopes and dreams set on for figures... think again. Y'all are basing your speculations around past releases or on what Hasbro may or may not have said and not a one of you is thinking from a greed/profit standpoint and therein lies your error.

T-Macksimus wrote:What I find highly irritating about this line, Or at least one of many points) is that they lump the movie crap in with Generations yet they are still running a specific "Generations" line with separate packaging... for the moment. The stores are keeping both lines separate and jacking up the prices on the movie line yet the listing above suggests that the figures are the same line (MV4 GEN) and this is just basically giving either Hasbro or the retailers an opportunity to screw us.
No, don't bother to try to break it down and "explain it" to me. I don't want to hear it, it's bullsh** plain and simple and utterly stupid. As far as I'm concerned they are two very distinct lines and the only thing that they have in common is that Hasbro is doing a stellar job of screwing them both up.

And as far as this Hot Shot character goes... it's a re-paint, I'll bet money on it. It's wave 3, we still don't have full listings of cast and toys and Hasbro is in their "We don't give a sh**" mode and looking to fleece parents and youngsters for every last red cent so of course we are going to get myriad repaints and cheap filler so they can drag this line out as long as possible with just teases of "new" characters. Marketing 101 folks, plain and simple. Don't think for one second that there is an ounce of loyalty or any respect for continuity or regard for fans. Whatever you have your hopes and dreams set on for figures... think again. Y'all are basing your speculations around past releases or on what Hasbro may or may not have said and not a one of you is thinking from a greed/profit standpoint and therein lies your error.

Must be trying to hold onto that "Hot Shot" license in case they ever want it again. Of course, that would mean having the young character not be BB, which Movie-verse would never do.

I almost would like Hot Shot to be a character again. Or better yet, how about OG Hound? He was originally a naive newcomer who was fascinated with Earth. He could work.

Shuttershock wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:As far as I'm concerned they are two very distinct lines and the only thing that they have in common is that Hasbro is doing a stellar job of screwing them both up.

Agree on that, they put their minimal effort on AoE toys, and filled up holes reusing old molds, oh and over pricing everything.

About those 2 pack promotion toys, I will skip them aswell, those amazing minicons were sold on previous movie...

T-Macksimus wrote:What I find highly irritating about this line, Or at least one of many points) is that they lump the movie crap in with Generations yet they are still running a specific "Generations" line with separate packaging... for the moment. The stores are keeping both lines separate and jacking up the prices on the movie line yet the listing above suggests that the figures are the same line (MV4 GEN) and this is just basically giving either Hasbro or the retailers an opportunity to screw us.
No, don't bother to try to break it down and "explain it" to me. I don't want to hear it, it's bullsh** plain and simple and utterly stupid. As far as I'm concerned they are two very distinct lines and the only thing that they have in common is that Hasbro is doing a stellar job of screwing them both up.

And as far as this Hot Shot character goes... it's a re-paint, I'll bet money on it. It's wave 3, we still don't have full listings of cast and toys and Hasbro is in their "We don't give a sh**" mode and looking to fleece parents and youngsters for every last red cent so of course we are going to get myriad repaints and cheap filler so they can drag this line out as long as possible with just teases of "new" characters. Marketing 101 folks, plain and simple. Don't think for one second that there is an ounce of loyalty or any respect for continuity or regard for fans. Whatever you have your hopes and dreams set on for figures... think again. Y'all are basing your speculations around past releases or on what Hasbro may or may not have said and not a one of you is thinking from a greed/profit standpoint and therein lies your error.

WONDER IF YOU SAW MY POST ABOUT HASBRO SAYING THEY ARE NOT MAKING UP NON MOVIE TRANSFORMERS FOR THE MOVIE LINE THIS TIME

BECAUSE ITS SHARING WITH GENERATIONS ITS NOT ITS OWN LINE THEY CAN ONLY DO A LIMITED ABOUT OF CHARACTERS TO SHARE ON SHELVES WITH THE OTHER GENERATION TOYS.

My trousers are now in orbit.

Finally, a toyline with more than one possible iteration of Hot Shot! Think of the potential "Then and Now" 2 packs or original faithful repaints or one-step changers...
I'll just slip into a coma cos my wildest wish for the AOE line has just been fulfilled.

This is truly the big time. A golden age.

What a time to be alive.

Just, please, for the love of god, don't die horribly in the film cos I might start weeping in the cinema.

Please let it be a kid appealed character.
Please let it be a kid appealed character.

We might finally see his search for Jaam make its way to the big screen.

william-james88 wrote:We might finally see his search for Jaam make its way to the big screen.

I wonder if it will make David Willis happy

My money's on the Chevy rally car. I'd be a fool not to think so.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:What I find highly irritating about this line, Or at least one of many points) is that they lump the movie crap in with Generations yet they are still running a specific "Generations" line with separate packaging... for the moment. The stores are keeping both lines separate and jacking up the prices on the movie line yet the listing above suggests that the figures are the same line (MV4 GEN) and this is just basically giving either Hasbro or the retailers an opportunity to screw us.
No, don't bother to try to break it down and "explain it" to me. I don't want to hear it, it's bullsh** plain and simple and utterly stupid. As far as I'm concerned they are two very distinct lines and the only thing that they have in common is that Hasbro is doing a stellar job of screwing them both up.

And as far as this Hot Shot character goes... it's a re-paint, I'll bet money on it. It's wave 3, we still don't have full listings of cast and toys and Hasbro is in their "We don't give a sh**" mode and looking to fleece parents and youngsters for every last red cent so of course we are going to get myriad repaints and cheap filler so they can drag this line out as long as possible with just teases of "new" characters. Marketing 101 folks, plain and simple. Don't think for one second that there is an ounce of loyalty or any respect for continuity or regard for fans. Whatever you have your hopes and dreams set on for figures... think again. Y'all are basing your speculations around past releases or on what Hasbro may or may not have said and not a one of you is thinking from a greed/profit standpoint and therein lies your error.

WONDER IF YOU SAW MY POST ABOUT HASBRO SAYING THEY ARE NOT MAKING UP NON MOVIE TRANSFORMERS FOR THE MOVIE LINE THIS TIME

BECAUSE ITS SHARING WITH GENERATIONS ITS NOT ITS OWN LINE THEY CAN ONLY DO A LIMITED ABOUT OF CHARACTERS TO SHARE ON SHELVES WITH THE OTHER GENERATION TOYS.

Dude, calm down. Not everyone's going to read back through all the comments. Jesus...

william-james88 wrote:We might finally see his search for Jaam make its way to the big screen.

Will laugh heartily if we even get a really small nod to that.

Mindmaster wrote:My money's on the Chevy rally car. I'd be a fool not to think so.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:What I find highly irritating about this line, Or at least one of many points) is that they lump the movie crap in with Generations yet they are still running a specific "Generations" line with separate packaging... for the moment. The stores are keeping both lines separate and jacking up the prices on the movie line yet the listing above suggests that the figures are the same line (MV4 GEN) and this is just basically giving either Hasbro or the retailers an opportunity to screw us.
No, don't bother to try to break it down and "explain it" to me. I don't want to hear it, it's bullsh** plain and simple and utterly stupid. As far as I'm concerned they are two very distinct lines and the only thing that they have in common is that Hasbro is doing a stellar job of screwing them both up.

And as far as this Hot Shot character goes... it's a re-paint, I'll bet money on it. It's wave 3, we still don't have full listings of cast and toys and Hasbro is in their "We don't give a sh**" mode and looking to fleece parents and youngsters for every last red cent so of course we are going to get myriad repaints and cheap filler so they can drag this line out as long as possible with just teases of "new" characters. Marketing 101 folks, plain and simple. Don't think for one second that there is an ounce of loyalty or any respect for continuity or regard for fans. Whatever you have your hopes and dreams set on for figures... think again. Y'all are basing your speculations around past releases or on what Hasbro may or may not have said and not a one of you is thinking from a greed/profit standpoint and therein lies your error.

WONDER IF YOU SAW MY POST ABOUT HASBRO SAYING THEY ARE NOT MAKING UP NON MOVIE TRANSFORMERS FOR THE MOVIE LINE THIS TIME

BECAUSE ITS SHARING WITH GENERATIONS ITS NOT ITS OWN LINE THEY CAN ONLY DO A LIMITED ABOUT OF CHARACTERS TO SHARE ON SHELVES WITH THE OTHER GENERATION TOYS.

Dude, calm down. Not everyone's going to read back through all the comments. Jesus...

william-james88 wrote:We might finally see his search for Jaam make its way to the big screen.

Will laugh heartily if we even get a really small nod to that.

You know that green fluid thats coming from the Vehicons when they are killed?


Maybe that is JaAm and since the Vehicons turn into Chevy Traxes which are Similar in size and shape to the Sonic that might be Hot Shot.



Nah they probably are not related in the slightest and no way is that JaAm..............

hope the weapon attaches to his face.

Thanks to the keen eye of Seibertron user william-james88, we have a confirmed retail sighting of the Legends-class Age of Extinction figures! Found in the Wal*Mart of Decarie Boulevard in Montreal, Quebec, william-james88 reported finding Legends Optimus Prime, Grimlock, Stinger, and Bumblebee.

To recap, Optimus Prime is a redeco of the Revenge of the Fallen figure of the same character, Grimlock from Beast Hunters Rippersnapper, Stinger from Prime Knock Out, and Bumblebee from Revenge of the Fallen of the same character. Check out the visual proof below!

Not my kind of thing, but I can see my kids wanting grimlock for sure

Definitely want to grab that Grimlock. Not as Grimmy himself, but as an addition to the Terrorcon troops. I'd love to have 2 or 3 Abominuses.

I WANT THOSE

Noideaforaname wrote:Definitely want to grab that Grimlock. Not as Grimmy himself, but as an addition to the Terrorcon troops. I'd love to have 2 or 3 Abominuses.

Agreed, Bli needs a friend.

A little Solvaset and an eraser will take care of that pesky Autobot insignea without damging theplastic. Also, if you are feeling artsy, Blot makes a nice Slog...

Check the sig for more ideas too.

LeL wrote:hope the weapon attaches to his face.

Going by the spaces and the two pegs, it looks like it fits into his noggin like ahst and covrs his face

Congrats Will, for your first News Credit!

damn $7 for a legion thats harsh, but i have no interest in these im waiting for the beast war repaints.

Wasp-shot23 wrote:This is truly the big time. A golden age.

What a time to be alive.

No offense intended but if you think this is a golden age i feel bad for you

T-Macksimus wrote:What I find highly irritating about this line, Or at least one of many points) is that they lump the movie crap in with Generations yet they are still running a specific "Generations" line with separate packaging... for the moment. The stores are keeping both lines separate and jacking up the prices on the movie line yet the listing above suggests that the figures are the same line (MV4 GEN) and this is just basically giving either Hasbro or the retailers an opportunity to screw us.
No, don't bother to try to break it down and "explain it" to me. I don't want to hear it, it's bullsh** plain and simple and utterly stupid. As far as I'm concerned they are two very distinct lines and the only thing that they have in common is that Hasbro is doing a stellar job of screwing them both up.

And as far as this Hot Shot character goes... it's a re-paint, I'll bet money on it. It's wave 3, we still don't have full listings of cast and toys and Hasbro is in their "We don't give a sh**" mode and looking to fleece parents and youngsters for every last red cent so of course we are going to get myriad repaints and cheap filler so they can drag this line out as long as possible with just teases of "new" characters. Marketing 101 folks, plain and simple. Don't think for one second that there is an ounce of loyalty or any respect for continuity or regard for fans. Whatever you have your hopes and dreams set on for figures... think again. Y'all are basing your speculations around past releases or on what Hasbro may or may not have said and not a one of you is thinking from a greed/profit standpoint and therein lies your error.

its refreshing to see someone else who actually gets it, to bad theres so few of us to actually make an impact. But i have to agree its way to early for a new character to show up especially when all the bots & "cons" havent been revealed yet. Now if wave 3 shows up around or after the movies release then theres a very slim possibility that its a new mold but my money is on a repaint of a DOTM mold or TFP.

Thing is, I NEVER thought the 'legion' figures were great shakes. But from what I've seen, it looks like my fears were not groundless. Hasbro does indeed seem to be scrapping their usual Transformers package design and logo for this god-awful 'new' one.

While I applaud simplifying the packaging, the design stinks. I had hoped it was just Movie4 that would suffer from it. But it's spilled over to MP Grimlock, and to this new animated series.

It just doesn't have any snap to it. It makes them look like they're prizes in boxes of crackerjack, rather than cool toys.