Less than 300 Punch / Counterpunch left!

Yikes.. going fast. I'm tempted to order 5 more, but don't want to be a Jacka$$. So, to to those last few individuals who get thier order in on time, you can thank me later

Crap

Dear Pete, could you have picked a different week than one that Dadwas in the hospital to release P/CP? As it is, I'm gonna miss out on the one I want, because the guy who's name is on the credit card is laid up. I have money, but no card. Oh well.

Crap.

Remember demand talks money and money talks re-issues. If Counterpunch is so hot, what makes you think Hasbro or even Takara wont pay off TFCC to mass produce ??? Do you think TFCC can afford to turn down a million dollar deal ??? Or even $500,000 or $250,000 ???

No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Maybe, but Thrust will took 3 years to make mass produced status in the US since his first appearance. It's also been said (and confirmed) that TFCC destroys the molds it uses to prevent KOs appearing in the future.

So I'm not holding my breath; and even if P/CP does make mass release, I'll have gottem my enjoyment from the fig.

Mkall wrote:

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Maybe, but Thrust will took 3 years to make mass produced status in the US since his first appearance. It's also been said (and confirmed) that TFCC destroys the molds it uses to prevent KOs appearing in the future.

So I'm not holding my breath; and even if P/CP does make mass release, I'll have gottem my enjoyment from the fig.

Not only that, but if/when P/CP makes a 'traditional' release, if ever, it won't be exactly like the TFCC release, just like Thrust wasn't. In this case, that's a guaranteed new head sculpt.

I'd be right in line for that reissue also.; just like Thrust. Maybe Hasbro/TT would scuplt some new hands. 3rd party makers have an opportunity here. I wondering how long before those appear in the market?

Rated X wrote:Remember demand talks money and money talks re-issues. If Counterpunch is so hot, what makes you think Hasbro or even Takara wont pay off TFCC to mass produce ??? Do you think TFCC can afford to turn down a million dollar deal ??? Or even $500,000 or $250,000 ???

No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

TFCC licenses product from Hasbro, not the other way around. If Hasbro wanted to make more, they'd tell TFCC, "We're making more." I'd be shocked if Hasbro/Takara would ever do that, though, without telling the TFCC "you're through." Sure, they'd re-sculpt possibly, but never straight out reissue the club's exclusive works.

Well since I joined the club in January, I may be pleased. It looks like the numbers for p/CP are low, less than 2000, maybe about 1600 made. In the HWC/RLC we had cars that were in the 10,000 range. But the ones under 2000 were worth the money.

Mkall wrote:

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Maybe, but Thrust will took 3 years to make mass produced status in the US since his first appearance. It's also been said (and confirmed) that TFCC destroys the molds it uses to prevent KOs appearing in the future.

So I'm not holding my breath; and even if P/CP does make mass release, I'll have gottem my enjoyment from the fig.

That's my opinion as well. I've been enjoying Thundercracker, Thrust, and Dirge from the GoD set for three years now. Making the set well worth the price I paid for the Iacon package.

I can't believe I've just done this, but I've preordered my Punch/Counterpunch... spur of the moment decision. Thank Primus for club prices, though...

Preordered Cp... So help me though that lil bugger best not appear magically on BBTS in a month or so cheaper...

too bad they went up so late in the month. i'd really like to at least get one of these two guys, but since they're going so fast and they want the money up front...i think i'm kinda fraked over here.

meep.

got my 7 preordered thats about 1/257th of the run! i should watch that show about hoarders...

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:got my 7 preordered thats about 1/257th of the run! i should watch that show about hoarders...

Ok, I can understand anyone wanting 3 of these for themselves. But seven!?
You are officialy a borderline scalper who is out of his freaking mind.

Fun Pubs really needs to put a three per member limit.

And so many of you people are ordering around 5-10 of these things!
Are any of you not scalpers?

Vicalliose wrote:

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:got my 7 preordered thats about 1/257th of the run! i should watch that show about hoarders...

Ok, I can understand anyone wanting 3 of these for themselves. But seven!?
You are officialy a borderline scalper who is out of his freaking mind.

Fun Pubs really needs to put a three per member limit.

And so many of you people are ordering around 5-10 of these things!
Are any of you not scalpers?

Call it an investment. Call me a collector. DO NOT CALL ME A SCALPER! How offensive to be grouped with that scum. Scalpers buy up as much of a product as they can and usually immediately sell it on eBay for rediculous mark-ups. And don't type as if you know me. I am a collector who is just now starting a Botcon collection. A MISP/MISB collection. And by the way, paying out the ass for it. I am getting my Punch/Counterpunch figures to help pay for my hobby, my passion, my obsession.

Why is it so understandable to get 3? Shouldn't 1 suffice? I'll proudly have a Punch on my shelves, I'll have a Counterpunch as well. I'll have a specimen to keep MISB for myself, and 4 more to sell as i please, or maybe give to friends. I'll probably sell them as most of my friends choose to blow all there money on getting high and wouldn't appreciate them. Or maybe, just maybe, I'll send one to a certain moderator who is likely lurking, real nearby.

If you want to call me a scalper, thats fine. I will call you Dickcheese. But lets not resort to name calling shall we?

Now i have to go to bed angry. Maybe an eighth P/CP will make me feel better.

And seriously, I don't think any of us on this board are scalpers. Just enthusiastic about vehicles that can change form into robots. Dickcheese.

So let me get this right.

You buy extra with the intention of selling down the track.

And that's not scalping.

Yes?

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:I'll have a specimen to keep MISB for myself,

You'll have to settle for MIB since they won't be sealed. The boxed club and Botcon figures aren't ever. Bagged figures are a different story of course since they're sealed in a baggy.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote: But lets not resort to name calling shall we?

This is wise. I'd edit your post a bit. Flaming isn't really tolerated bud.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:Call it an investment. Call me a collector. DO NOT CALL ME A SCALPER! How offensive to be grouped with that scum. Scalpers buy up as much of a product as they can and usually immediately sell it on eBay for rediculous mark-ups. And don't type as if you know me. I am a collector who is just now starting a Botcon collection. A MISP/MISB collection. And by the way, paying out the ass for it. I am getting my Punch/Counterpunch figures to help pay for my hobby, my passion, my obsession.,

Your right. What I said was over the line. I should not have called anyone a "scalper". And I apologize for it.

But I still strongly believe that there should be a limit on how many people order. Just to avoid such a thing.

Also Flux is right. They aren't MISB, only MIB. The most I've personally seen so far is a few teeny rubber bands on some minicons.

Well, according to Victorysabre over at the club boards, it looks like P/CP is sold out! Glad I got my chance to get one with my smart phone while down in Miami while this all went down. Phew!!

Victorysabre"Punch now seems to be sold out. If you add one to your basket it automatically adjusts the quantity to 0."

Prime Evil wrote:Well, according to Victorysabre over at the club boards, it looks like P/CP is sold out! Glad I got my chance to get one with my smart phone while down in Miami while this all went down. Phew!!

Victorysabre"Punch now seems to be sold out. If you add one to your basket it automatically adjusts the quantity to 0."

It's marked as "discontinued" now at the club store.

Wow, that was a quick sellout

Hard call if buying 7 with the intention to sell is considered scalping. People KNEW this was coming for the past nine months and if they didn't save up $$$ that their fault. And in this case I think three days is a fair amount of time versus minutes for ticket and other online scalping. You also have to take into consideration that P/CP is being bought sight unseen and that a big risk.

As for FunPub limiting the amount you can buy you have to understand why they CAN'T do it as they do not know which items will be popular and need to make their money back as quickly as possible.

Guess it just wasn't in the cards for me to get this bad boy.


Oh well, at least I'll get to see a sweet gallery of it here once Seibertron gets his hands on it.

Congrats to the Transformers Collectors Club on such a fast sell out. I surely would have gotten my hand on one of them if I had the cash.

Sold out?!?

This is bullshit! As a member of the TFCC I'm pissed that my membership means so little that I can't even pre order one before they are sold out. In my case I was away all weekend for work and I find out today that I'm SOL.

So here's what should have been done:

Members get the chance to preorder a week in advance of non members with a strict cap placed per figure, per member THEN open the preorders to the rest of the public.

Very disappointed in this... Don't think I'll be buying back into the TFCC unless this issue is resolved.

I got mine ordered!

Surely somebody who bought extra ones could hook up our 2 staff members above with a Counterpunch for a reasonable price?

Had I had the money, I would have bought a few extra myself and sold them at cost to you guys. But alas, I didn't.

First Gen wrote:Guess it just wasn't in the cards for me to get this bad boy.


Oh well, at least I'll get to see a sweet gallery of it here once Seibertron gets his hands on it.

Congrats to the Transformers Collectors Club on such a fast sell out. I surely would have gotten my hand on one of them if I had the cash.

Please check your email.

Is it me or did this sell out faster then any other club toy ever?

Dead Metal wrote:Is it me or did this sell out faster then any other club toy ever?

Has any other club figure ever sell out during pre-order? I have to assume some sold out eventually, but most likely after they were in stock at the club store.

except for the Seacons, but they sold out only because they took forever to come out.

All members of the club should have first refusal for exclusives then any extra made open to the public. You will see a glut of these on the ebay soon.

I ment to order one but meh, im not going to loose any sleep over not having one.

Neurie wrote:You will see a glut of these on the ebay soon.

I very much doubt it. The production numbers were less than 2000. There's not a glut of ANY TF toy on eBay with production numbers that low, much less a highly desired classics-style toy.

Just got an email from TFCC saying that they're looking into getting the production numbers increased in order to give a few more people a shot at Punch/Counterpunch, don't everyone despair just yet. There may yet be a chance to get this figure.

Here's the actual text from the email:

Brian wrote:Response to the current club exclusives pre-orders has been incredible! Over the weekend Punch/Counter Punch has sold out!

However, we are checking to see if we can get the quantities increased. We will keep you posted if we are able to do this. If we are able to increase the production numbers, we ask that you give members who have not ordered a set, the chance to purchase before you order seconds...etc.

In addition, Cyclonus has sold through approximately 60% of the run. If you are interested in that figure, don't delay as we expect it to sell out soon as well.

BotCon update: We are still working on final details and the online registration system. We hope to have the brochure up very soon.

Thanks for your support!

Brian

Samsonator wrote:Just got an email from TFCC saying that they're looking into getting the production numbers increased in order to give a few more people a shot at Punch/Counterpunch, don't everyone despair just yet.

That would be nice. I balked at the $10 shipping charge last night to give myself some time to think it over, and now I'm SOL. No one's fault but my own here.

Counterpunch wrote:

Neurie wrote:You will see a glut of these on the ebay soon.

I very much doubt it. The production numbers were less than 2000. There's not a glut of ANY TF toy on eBay with production numbers that low, much less a highly desired classics-style toy.

Possibly but but with the amount of people buying 5/7/10 pieces there will be a steady supply on ebay.

Gotta love those fans who most definately arent scalpers, I would never dare colour them with that tarnished brush for seeing an investment to fund a purchase of a MISB Black Zarak by excessive over buying to sell at a grossly inflated price

Hopefully the production run will be increased to meet demand, but if it does im certain people will be buying them in multiples again.

the system is seriously flawed, atleast botcons is better than it was a few years ago, makes me miss when the Hartmans ran it and limited it to two per attendee.

Samsonator wrote:Just got an email from TFCC saying that they're looking into getting the production numbers increased in order to give a few more people a shot at Punch/Counterpunch, don't everyone despair just yet. There may yet be a chance to get this figure.

Here's the actual text from the email:

Brian wrote:Response to the current club exclusives pre-orders has been incredible! Over the weekend Punch/Counter Punch has sold out!

However, we are checking to see if we can get the quantities increased. We will keep you posted if we are able to do this. If we are able to increase the production numbers, we ask that you give members who have not ordered a set, the chance to purchase before you order seconds...etc.

In addition, Cyclonus has sold through approximately 60% of the run. If you are interested in that figure, don't delay as we expect it to sell out soon as well.

BotCon update: We are still working on final details and the online registration system. We hope to have the brochure up very soon.

Thanks for your support!

Brian

Ditto. I got the same email. My guess is that they got flooded with complaints and/or demand and are going to try to make a few more.

You guys and your scalper talk! Seriously, are we children and we can't accept that sometimes stuff that we don't like happens. We may be toy collectors, but suck it up and be a man instead of constantly complaining about!

I really can't express how sick I am over this argument, and I really don't want to offend anybody. If you're not able, or more to the point not willing, to fork over a couple of extra bucks every once in a while, you are never going to have all the figures that appeal to you. That's OK for a lot of people, but if you must have everything, and you don't want to pay, this is not the hobby for you.

This is all coming from a guy who has lost 50% of his pay since I started collecting.

The position that Downshift is in is a little different because he wasn't around. But I also don't fault the club at all on this. This is the first time that a club figure has sold out so quickly and they still lasted long enough for most interested parties to get one.

You wanna be enraged, try the Masters of the Universe Classics line. 4 minute sell outs and people not even able to get onto the website.

Geekee1 wrote:You wanna be enraged, try the Masters of the Universe Classics line. 4 minute sell outs and people not even able to get onto the website.

You should have tried for the ghost buster when they first came out, although Winston is still avaiable supprisingly.

Neurie wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:You wanna be enraged, try the Masters of the Universe Classics line. 4 minute sell outs and people not even able to get onto the website.

You should have tried for the ghost buster when they first came out, although Winston is still avaiable supprisingly.

Or try out for the Ghostubsters and not having a credit card, the only reply you will get for asking of you could pay via paypal is how to pay via credit card.

Damn, and I was just about to order a couple of him.

Down_Shift wrote:Sold out?!?

This is bullshit! As a member of the TFCC I'm pissed that my membership means so little that I can't even pre order one before they are sold out. In my case I was away all weekend for work and I find out today that I'm SOL.

So here's what should have been done:

Members get the chance to preorder a week in advance of non members with a strict cap placed per figure, per member THEN open the preorders to the rest of the public.

Very disappointed in this... Don't think I'll be buying back into the TFCC unless this issue is resolved.

I'm with you mate, I too was away this weekend, with no web access. This is the first year I have signed up for the club, specifically because I was interested in both Dion and C/Punch.

Colour me unimpressed.

Glad I didn't wait! Reupped my membership with minutes to spare on a free Dion and P/CP was gone in a flash!

But $110 to the Club in 2 weeks? That was hard to swing!

Seibertron wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:I actually really like that Astrotrain.

Really? His eyes are so f'ed up though!

I found it! I scanned in the image as well for you all to see what the design looked like versus what the actual head looked like. Hence, why I've always been disappointed with the Astrotrain exclusive.

Yeah, I can see why you would be disappointed, the concept looks more angry, with little changes to the cheeks and eyes. Still, I enjoy my Astrotrain.

I do hope they make more for the few that missed out. They really do need to improve the system. With that said lets speculate on what we're getting, first from the color images it appears that besides the head the gun has been modified to be different for each bot. Also the wind flap/jet pack will officially have the ability to attach to the gun.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I do hope they make more for the few that missed out. They really do need to improve the system. With that said lets speculate on what we're getting, first from the color images it appears that besides the head the gun has been modified to be different for each bot. Also the wind flap/jet pack will officially have the ability to attach to the gun.

I think they just turn the gun around. It was also the tailpipes for Sunstreaker/Sideswipe. The engine also was always able to attach. It clasped loosly over the gun.

RiddlerJ wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I do hope they make more for the few that missed out. They really do need to improve the system. With that said lets speculate on what we're getting, first from the color images it appears that besides the head the gun has been modified to be different for each bot. Also the wind flap/jet pack will officially have the ability to attach to the gun.

I think they just turn the gun around. It was also the tailpipes for Sunstreaker/Sideswipe. The engine also was always able to attach. It clasped loosly over the gun.

With Sunstreaker/Sideswipe the gun had a fixed barrel. This one looks like each mode has it's own distinct version. The engine closing over the gun wasn't an official gimmick and in this case it appears they've perfected it since they're advertising it.

I still think it's very odd to buy a toy before they show off the actual new feature of it. The head could turn out like that weird Ultra Magnus head that looked like the Joker lol.

Why keep it secret if you want people to buy it, right? The only reason to hide it is if you think it will decrease sales. That's simple economics.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I still think it's very odd to buy a toy before they show off the actual new feature of it. The head could turn out like that weird Ultra Magnus head that looked like the Joker lol.

Why keep it secret if you want people to buy it, right? The only reason to hide it is if you think it will decrease sales. That's simple economics.

If it ends up being lame, the response will be brutal.

FunPub would be in a good deal of trouble with the fandom.

Black Bumblebee wrote:The only reason to hide it is if you think it will decrease sales.

Or they just don't have a production sample in finalized colors yet. The head in just black plastic wouldn't be much to look at.

oops!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I do hope they make more for the few that missed out. They really do need to improve the system. With that said lets speculate on what we're getting, first from the color images it appears that besides the head the gun has been modified to be different for each bot. Also the wind flap/jet pack will officially have the ability to attach to the gun.

I think they just turn the gun around. It was also the tailpipes for Sunstreaker/Sideswipe. The engine also was always able to attach. It clasped loosly over the gun.

With Sunstreaker/Sideswipe the gun had a fixed barrel. This one looks like each mode has it's own distinct version. The engine closing over the gun wasn't an official gimmick and in this case it appears they've perfected it since they're advertising it.

I think not! I remember seeing the pictures for P/CP and having the reaction of HOLY SMOKES thats what those engine flaps are for and was the first thing I tried when I got home!

I'm glad I was able to preorder one of these. I feel sorry for those who missed out since the same happened to me with the Seacons! It wasn't about saving money for it. It was that there where so many SWEET figures being released at one time that I ran out of funds. I did feel irritated reading about someone ordering more than 3 figures as if it was an arguement waiting to happen! I do agree that fanpub should allow a 2 per order limit for one week and then open the flood gates. I barely found out that they where up for pre-order. If possible at all give us an exact pre-order date! If they did I'm sorry since I'm no longer a TFCC member.