Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Promotional Top Ten Characters Video

Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

Kurona wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

When do they say he was created by the council in episode 1? They mention he was loyal to them in later episodes, but I wasn't aware they said he was created by them.

Kurona wrote:Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1

I didnt catch that.

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

I take personal offense to this

No one cringd at this top 10 list

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... des/34952/

Bronzewolf wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

When do they say he was created by the council in episode 1? They mention he was loyal to them in later episodes, but I wasn't aware they said he was created by them.

Must have remembered wrong... in any case, it seems the intention is that they were created by the council, hence why they'd be loyal in the first place and why Menasor would know.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1

I didnt catch that.

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

I take personal offense to this

No one cringd at this top 10 list

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... des/34952/

Hey now... I said like this. Your top ten lists are great

This... This top-ten characters video is a complete and utter joke! There are literally only eleven characters in this who have any dialogue, and of those eleven, four of them (all the female ones, sadly) are newer ones whom the average G1 Joe wouldn't know of offhand due to their having been made in recent years. And of those four, of course the Mistress of Flame gets omitted for her not being a fighter in this (being a boring politician instead) and having no actual name (just a title), while Windblade's being the central protagonist requires her inclusion, and Victorion's being a more-special-than-special Combiner also requires her own inclusion, which leaves Maxima to be included by mere process of elimination and the need to round out the total to ten. Thus, this video is less of an actual "top-ten" and more of "these seven 1980s G1 characters in the order we remember them from least to most, plus three of the four new girls tossed in for marketing and numbering reasons."

Also, boo to putting Optimus at the #1 spot. For once, Megatron totally deserved that spot.

And they talked about Megatron turning into a gun in this video when mere moments later they show footage from episode 4 of him turning into a tank! Ugh.

Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance

william-james88 wrote:Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance

April Fools is only about 7 months away

william-james88 wrote:Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance

Or you could dedicate one of your Top 10 lists to ranking the characters that seems like a far better list, only to still have Optimus as #1

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance

Or you could dedicate one of your Top 10 lists to ranking the characters that seems like a far better list, only to still have Optimus as #1

Hahahahahaha

Hahaha, I might make a lit when all is said and done for this show. But it would be a top 5. And so far, while i love Jon, Optimus wodl not be number 1

william-james88 wrote:Hahaha, I might make a lit when all is said and done for this show. But it would be a top 5. And so far, while i love Jon, Optimus wodl not be number 1

I think we can all agree this Megatron wins it all

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.

Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.

You did read the posts I was referring to? Frame rate etc etc are all part of the package in a CGI flick. Whether it be BW Prime or Adventure. Just sit down, watch and be entertained is the gist of my post. Not counting the frame rate or how "limited" the lip synch etc etc. Storywise, the show is just starting, lot's more to know like those movie serials Spielberg and Lucas grew up on.

Framerate is a very legitimate thing to argue about when it's slow to the point of being distracting and detrimental to the product. We're not meticulously counting every frame of each second; the frames are so few in number we can literally see them. That's not a good sign.

As for the story 'just starting', the series is about halfway through.

And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

1st 20 minutes of intros? Halfway already? How many episodes are we in for anyway?

And again with the production values. The moment Hb contracted the company to animate the story in serial format should already have given hints on how much budget was allocated to the show.

The company may want to have added more but if the budget they were given is limited (Hb being skinflints?) so corners are sure to be cut. Which goes back to my Pixar analogy. Lower your expectations. Eat the popcorn and enjoy (or hate the show). Heck, this kind of reminds me of Takara's TFGo! Compare that to this, which is better?

fenrir72 wrote:1st 20 minutes of intros? Halfway already? How many episodes are we in for anyway?

Eight. Eight episode of five minutes in length.

fenrir72 wrote:And again with the production values. The moment Hb contracted the company to animate the story in serial format should already have given hints on how much budget was allocated to the show.

The company may want to have added more but if the budget they were given is limited (Hb being skinflints?) so corners are sure to be cut. Which goes back to my Pixar analogy. Lower your expectations. Eat the popcorn and enjoy (or hate the show). Heck, this kind of reminds me of Takara's TFGo! Compare that to this, which is better?

Go! is. Go! has a vastly better framerate for its robot characters than this show does, and the sad thing is that both this show and Go! were animated by the exact same company, Tatsunoko Production, who has previously done countless animated works of animation quality ranging from good to amazing. This show, however, has incredibly choppy animation for all of its robot characters, with only the backgrounds and camera movement being the only things decently animated in this. When everything except the characters that a show focuses on looks decently animated, then there's something wrong there.

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

The guy on the right looks like the guy form Big Bang Theory who has the comic book store. I wonder if the reason why CW had 10 characters was just so they could make this list

Poor Mistress of Flame didn't make it over a character that had one line , then died

So basically...if these guys were in charge of the NFL...30 of the 32 teams would make it in the playoffs each season

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.

Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.

You did read the posts I was referring to? Frame rate etc etc are all part of the package in a CGI flick. Whether it be BW Prime or Adventure. Just sit down, watch and be entertained is the gist of my post. Not counting the frame rate or how "limited" the lip synch etc etc. Storywise, the show is just starting, lot's more to know like those movie serials Spielberg and Lucas grew up on.

Framerate is a very legitimate thing to argue about when it's slow to the point of being distracting and detrimental to the product. We're not meticulously counting every frame of each second; the frames are so few in number we can literally see them. That's not a good sign.

As for the story 'just starting', the series is about halfway through.

And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

1st 20 minutes of intros? Halfway already? How many episodes are we in for anyway?

And again with the production values. The moment Hb contracted the company to animate the story in serial format should already have given hints on how much budget was allocated to the show.

The company may want to have added more but if the budget they were given is limited (Hb being skinflints?) so corners are sure to be cut. Which goes back to my Pixar analogy. Lower your expectations. Eat the popcorn and enjoy (or hate the show). Heck, this kind of reminds me of Takara's TFGo! Compare that to this, which is better?

I did lower my expectations though. Like I said after the first episode; I wasn't expecting to be blown away by it, I wasn't expecting anything amazing, I was just expecting something mildly decent and entertaining and I didn't even get that.

o.supreme wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Poor Mistress of Flame didn't make it over a character that had one line , then died

Correction, two characters that had one line then died. (Maxima, Computron), plus one that had a couple lines then died (Menasor)

To be honest, when they said 10 was Maxima, I thought "Really? Her?" but then I thought "Hey, maybe this is the chance to gain some more backstory or info on her" but nope. We know now exactly what we knew before: She's a throw-away character who had tons of wasted potential.

I know most people think Computron is dead, but I thought the flickering in his eyes at the end of the episode was indication he is still alive somehow...of course this would be the series not to answer that question. I know Rodimus mentioned Computron's demise, (how he would know about this...I don't get either) but then...why the flickering lights? *signs of life* IMHO.

The frame rate issue is really perplexing. Sometimes it's fine, then it goes all wonky. Too late to fix it now, it's all rendered and in the can.

I really liked the dialogue with Megatron. It's like he's a normal guy having a conversation with a couple of drama queens.

As the for the Steve and Larson thing, it looks more like a promo thing more than anything. They're still funny guys though, I usually enjoy their other Top 10s.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:1st 20 minutes of intros? Halfway already? How many episodes are we in for anyway?

Eight. Eight episode of five minutes in length.

fenrir72 wrote:And again with the production values. The moment Hb contracted the company to animate the story in serial format should already have given hints on how much budget was allocated to the show.

The company may want to have added more but if the budget they were given is limited (Hb being skinflints?) so corners are sure to be cut. Which goes back to my Pixar analogy. Lower your expectations. Eat the popcorn and enjoy (or hate the show). Heck, this kind of reminds me of Takara's TFGo! Compare that to this, which is better?

Go! is. Go! has a vastly better framerate for its robot characters than this show does, and the sad thing is that both this show and Go! were animated by the exact same company, Tatsunoko Production, who has previously done countless animated works of animation quality ranging from good to amazing. This show, however, has incredibly choppy animation for all of its robot characters, with only the backgrounds and camera movement being the only things decently animated in this. When everything except the characters that a show focuses on looks decently animated, then there's something wrong there.

Nothing is really "wrong" based on the situation you mentioned. Again back to the most important thing. Budget. Budget allocated for this "advertisement". If Hb committed let's say $ 5,000,000 then we get that much worth of visual bliss. If Hb committed $10,000,000 then we get that same amount in production values etc etc.

Tatsunoko even back during the original Macross also subcontracted and cut corners. Hence we got a mix bag in the SDF Macross saga in terms of animation quality (had some errors in the editing too during the first few episodes, the uncensored non Macek versions). Same with the legendary Gatchaman. The first season had minimum corners cut while 2nd and 3rd had a lot of reusing etc etc.

Tatsunoko was more or less subcontracted for the cheapest services they could offer and TF seems not to be their "in house" love child.

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.

Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.

You did read the posts I was referring to? Frame rate etc etc are all part of the package in a CGI flick. Whether it be BW Prime or Adventure. Just sit down, watch and be entertained is the gist of my post. Not counting the frame rate or how "limited" the lip synch etc etc. Storywise, the show is just starting, lot's more to know like those movie serials Spielberg and Lucas grew up on.

Framerate is a very legitimate thing to argue about when it's slow to the point of being distracting and detrimental to the product. We're not meticulously counting every frame of each second; the frames are so few in number we can literally see them. That's not a good sign.

As for the story 'just starting', the series is about halfway through.

And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

1st 20 minutes of intros? Halfway already? How many episodes are we in for anyway?

And again with the production values. The moment Hb contracted the company to animate the story in serial format should already have given hints on how much budget was allocated to the show.

The company may want to have added more but if the budget they were given is limited (Hb being skinflints?) so corners are sure to be cut. Which goes back to my Pixar analogy. Lower your expectations. Eat the popcorn and enjoy (or hate the show). Heck, this kind of reminds me of Takara's TFGo! Compare that to this, which is better?

I did lower my expectations though. Like I said after the first episode; I wasn't expecting to be blown away by it, I wasn't expecting anything amazing, I was just expecting something mildly decent and entertaining and I didn't even get that.

People have differing levels of satisfaction. Some are easy to please other aren't. Same old same old. That's what being human is.

fenrir72 wrote:Nothing is really "wrong" based on the situation you mentioned. Again back to the most important thing. Budget. Budget allocated for this "advertisement". If Hb committed let's say $ 5,000,000 then we get that much worth of visual bliss. If Hb committed $10,000,000 then we get that same amount in production values etc etc.

Tatsunoko even back during the original Macross also subcontracted and cut corners. Hence we got a mix bag in the SDF Macross saga in terms of animation quality (had some errors in the editing too during the first few episodes, the uncensored non Macek versions). Same with the legendary Gatchaman. The first season had minimum corners cut while 2nd and 3rd had a lot of reusing etc etc.

Tatsunoko was more or less subcontracted for the cheapest services they could offer and TF seems not to be their "in house" love child.

Being done on the cheap doesn't excuse the framerate from still looking bad.

Cyber Missions had a vastly better framerate than this and look at how stupidly cheap and unflattering it looked (there isn't even any mouth movement, even for those who have visible mouths, like Megatron with his mouth stuck being always hung open):

Computron was created by Grimlock?

I've never been able to come to terms with this.


Even if Grimlock just has a speech impediment,
In no way can he pull that off.

What am I missing?
Savant syndrome?

Tell me!

I've read quite a bit of flame about how Windblade is nothing like her IDW counterpart.
How all of a sudden she's grumpy, powerful and swings a blade like a badass.
She's not the sweet, optimistic girlbot we all supposedly know from the comics.




Has it never occurred to anyone that maybe we don't know her all that well?
Maybe she was chosen for not only her compassion and empathy?
Hotshot is supposedly a City-speaker, and he has never been portrayed as anything but a pew-pew, fight, punch, kick guy.
A WARRIOR.



AND
people change.
Especially when something happens that pushes one too far.
Something that makes one mean and angry.

She seems mean
And angry.

Something's changed.
Something has happened.
She is not the girl we knew.

She isn't attending to Metroplex.
She isn't being attended by Chromia.
She isn't who we thought we knew.
She's been hurt by something horrible.

All we can do is wait
And see.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Nothing is really "wrong" based on the situation you mentioned. Again back to the most important thing. Budget. Budget allocated for this "advertisement". If Hb committed let's say $ 5,000,000 then we get that much worth of visual bliss. If Hb committed $10,000,000 then we get that same amount in production values etc etc.

Tatsunoko even back during the original Macross also subcontracted and cut corners. Hence we got a mix bag in the SDF Macross saga in terms of animation quality (had some errors in the editing too during the first few episodes, the uncensored non Macek versions). Same with the legendary Gatchaman. The first season had minimum corners cut while 2nd and 3rd had a lot of reusing etc etc.

Tatsunoko was more or less subcontracted for the cheapest services they could offer and TF seems not to be their "in house" love child.

Being done on the cheap doesn't excuse the framerate from still looking bad.

Cyber Missions had a vastly better framerate than this and look at how stupidly cheap and unflattering it looked (there isn't even any mouth movement, even for those who have visible mouths, like Megatron with his mouth stuck being always hung open):

In an ideal world we would have wished that but tell that to the renderers.

You do realize that the cost to render Cyber missions a year or so ago has increased? Prices/costs don't remain static. That's what you call inflation. You also have to factor the change in foreign exchange rates


I'm imagining this setting...........

Tatsunoko: Hey peeps (manager who will assign the in house group who will render the show), we's got a contract from gaijin Hb to animate their combiner war product

Manager: 'sama.....how much we gonna get out of this? What's the budget?

Tatsunoko: Contract has it for US$ 5,000,000

Manager: $ 5,000,000 only? I guess it's team Shoshinsha who'll handle it. No need to bother the in house senmonka.

Tatsunoko: Make sure those whippersnappers don't go the full monty. Budget is only $ US 5,000,000. If we get a second season and a higher budget maybe we could add more bells and whistles......

The only thing I basically like about this Combiner Wars show is the character modeling. The characters look like I feel they should.

The dialogue is bad. G1 tv-show bad. Maybe worse. The voice actors' tones do not react properly to one another. Megatron's delivery is great, but it has no impact on the other characters.

The fight action makes no sense, physics-wise. This show's physics makes less sense than a six-year-old throwing their toys around.

And why the bleep-boop-bleep for the Constructicon voices? Are they that profane?

Z3ROhour wrote:Computron was created by Grimlock?

I've never been able to come to terms with this.


Even if Grimlock just has a speech impediment,
In no way can he pull that off.

What am I missing?
Savant syndrome?

Tell me!

The G1 episode it happened in featured an accident where Grimlock got a ton of information and intelligence flown straight into his brain. He later created the Technobots and, to go back to his status quo, transferred the intelligence to them and Computron and went back to his usual self.

Lorekeeper wrote:The only thing I basically like about this Combiner Wars show is the character modeling. The characters look like I feel they should.

Yeah, what I find really awesome is how some of the designs are pulled straight from the toys. You literally see some of your toys come to life. I especially felt this when Rodimus was conversing with Starscream, you can see your MP 09 Rodimus toy just walking about.

william-james88 wrote:

Lorekeeper wrote:The only thing I basically like about this Combiner Wars show is the character modeling. The characters look like I feel they should.

Yeah, what I find really awesome is how some of the designs are pulled straight from the toys. You literally see some of your toys come to life. I especially felt this when Rodimus was conversing with Starscream, you can see your MP 09 Rodimus toy just walking about.

At least, until his arms break and fall off, that is.

Z3ROhour wrote:Computron was created by Grimlock?

I've never been able to come to terms with this.

...Tell me!

--Watch the Original Series episode "Grimlock's New Brain" it's pretty straight forward.

william-james88 wrote:

Lorekeeper wrote:The only thing I basically like about this Combiner Wars show is the character modeling. The characters look like I feel they should.

Yeah, what I find really awesome is how some of the designs are pulled straight from the toys. You literally see some of your toys come to life. I especially felt this when Rodimus was conversing with Starscream, you can see your MP 09 Rodimus toy just walking about.

I feel exactly the same way about the "Devastation" video game that came out a while ago. I have absolutely 0 interest in the game itself, but the character models (mostly all based off of Masterpiece) Are really really cool. I think I even said something like that on here when the trailer first dropped.

Anyway, yeah. I enjoy the character models, they had a lot of potential. Unfortunately it got dragged down by the Dialogue, Mouth sync ( ), and pacing.

I feel like the only person on this website who doesn't have any issues with the animation framerate. It seems fine to me.

That Bot wrote:I feel like the only person on this website who doesn't have any issues with the animation framerate. It seems fine to me.

I haven't had an issue with the animation or anything, and my original complaints are being ironed out with the story going forward, especially thanks to Megatron

That Bot wrote:I feel like the only person on this website who doesn't have any issues with the animation framerate. It seems fine to me.

framerate seems fine here.

In spite of its flaws, I am looking forward to each episode. I wish they were longer....

So far Megatron is the best part of the series. He had character, his lines were delivered with avidity, and he had some enjoyable quips in his scenes, a nice change from the angst-filled 'protagonist's' recycled complaints of combiners' apparent ruination.

Sunstar wrote:framerate seems fine here.

In spite of its flaws, I am looking forward to each episode. I wish they were longer....

Myself as well, if they were longer there would be more time for a healthy combination of exposition and action, and more time to introduce the characters.

Whifflefire wrote:So far Megatron is the best part of the series. He had character, his lines were delivered with avidity, and he had some enjoyable quips in his scenes, a nice change from the angst-filled 'protagonist's' recycled complaints of combiners' apparent ruination.

Sunstar wrote:framerate seems fine here.

In spite of its flaws, I am looking forward to each episode. I wish they were longer....

Myself as well, if they were longer there would be more time for a healthy combination of exposition and action, and more time to introduce the characters.

You probably normal "joes" who just wants to focus on the important things in life like story content etc etc......

Find more here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfectionism_(psychology)

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-psycholog ... see-world/



......framerates.........

Hey fenrir72, no need. Ta.

fenrir72 wrote:

Galactic Prime wrote:This show still isn't any better. The animation I think was worse in this episode than it's been all along. Megatron's mouth movements made no sense and didn't fit his words.

Windblade is just.... Ugggghhhh.... So terrible.

Megatron was better acted than anyone so far, but his lines are awful. The writer of this show can't write, at ALL, they should find a new job, because writing isn't for them.

I was so looking forward to this series and so hoping it would be on the quality of G.I.Joe Resolute and it simply isn't even close.

We're halfway through the show and we still have no idea WTF is really going on or why things are the way there are.

So much potential, so crappy.

IDW did a better job and their books are almost as bad as the G1 Marvel garbage....

You could do better?

I certainly could write something better by far. So yeah, with proper animation people, and GOOD voice actors, I could do better, A LOT better.

Bronzewolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Lorekeeper wrote:The only thing I basically like about this Combiner Wars show is the character modeling. The characters look like I feel they should.

Yeah, what I find really awesome is how some of the designs are pulled straight from the toys. You literally see some of your toys come to life. I especially felt this when Rodimus was conversing with Starscream, you can see your MP 09 Rodimus toy just walking about.

I feel exactly the same way about the "Devastation" video game that came out a while ago. I have absolutely 0 interest in the game itself, but the character models (mostly all based off of Masterpiece) Are really really cool. I think I even said something like that on here when the trailer first dropped.

Anyway, yeah. I enjoy the character models, they had a lot of potential. Unfortunately it got dragged down by the Dialogue, Mouth sync ( ), and pacing.

It's always great to see animation models that accurately reflect the toys or vice versa. Makes it feel more genuine to me personally and like you are a part or have a piece of the action as well.

That Bot wrote:I feel like the only person on this website who doesn't have any issues with the animation framerate. It seems fine to me.

You got to admit though that their animation style is a little choppy at least? I mean I see why people are criticizing it. It isn't very smooth totally. I think the reason for this though is more a stylistic and possibly rendering choice though.

Whifflefire wrote:So far Megatron is the best part of the series. He had character, his lines were delivered with avidity, and he had some enjoyable quips in his scenes, a nice change from the angst-filled 'protagonist's' recycled complaints of combiners' apparent ruination.

Sunstar wrote:framerate seems fine here.

In spite of its flaws, I am looking forward to each episode. I wish they were longer....

Myself as well, if they were longer there would be more time for a healthy combination of exposition and action, and more time to introduce the characters.

Going to take in that bolded part of the quote for a moment due to my fanaticism for Megatron.

*breathes in deeply*

There we go...

That's actually my complaint, I wish the episodes were longer and had a bit more exposition and action to them. The story is pretty straight forward in the way they're telling it when its not just random bouts of action. Since they changed the continuity for this it wouldn't hurt for them to add a bit more exposition to carry it though.

Tyrannacon wrote:

That Bot wrote:I feel like the only person on this website who doesn't have any issues with the animation framerate. It seems fine to me.

You got to admit though that their animation style is a little choppy at least?

No I don't. Aside from the mouth animations, the motion looks fine. Stiff, sometimes, but not choppy or lacking in frames or anything. I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing, and I'm okay with that.

That Bot wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:

That Bot wrote:I feel like the only person on this website who doesn't have any issues with the animation framerate. It seems fine to me.

You got to admit though that their animation style is a little choppy at least?

No I don't. Aside from the mouth animations, the motion looks fine. Stiff, sometimes, but not choppy or lacking in frames or anything. I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing, and I'm okay with that.

Alright then. Sorry about that.

Mostly I was seeing the choppy-ness in the actual fighting and movement of the 'bots rather than the speech.

so far ive been enjoying if combiner wars is successful i hope they move onto titans return, im enjoying windblades character definatlly a nice change from say arcee or arachnea, i do find it odd that the combiners dont seem to be as in control as they did in the g1 cartoon,and starscream playing nice is an odd yet interesting take on his character.

The animation is fine, and the plot is beginning to make more sense now that we've seen more of how this storyline is going, but if the episodes were longer, we would have understood the tone earlier and most of the complaints for this series would be mitigated. People's dissatisfaction with the episodes seem to all come from the limited timespan of them.

Gotta admit, that episode was better. Windblade is still annoying but Megs is great. Definitely the shows MVP thus far.

Episode 5 - https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_76d339377a884aab97be734ad7cb9343

Was actually kinda okay for the most part. All that's to be said about the acting and framerate has already been said time and again, but neither seemed quite as bad this time around (or maybe I'm just getting used to it).

Megatron and Starscream continue to remain the best characters so far, though Rodimus seems to have improved as he's no longer the one who's considering the hasty and hostile decisions (that'd be the Mistress of Flame now, who now seems the most like the show's main "villain", if there needed to be one) and is instead siding with Starscream on trying to seek methods of reason and peace.

Though, there was a very odd moment during the battle scene. When Windblade was slicing at one of the cannons, there was this deep disembodied voice who told her "Don't... let this happen." Who said that?! And why was this a thing? It's never brought up again in the episode, nor even really acknowledged that much by Windblade when she hears it. It was just really weird.

And then... a random Devastator appears! Uh... okay?

Though, I chuckled a bit at his tearing Rodimus's arm off, what with Rodimus being modeled after his MP-9 toy.

New week, new Tuesday, new episode of the Machinima animated series Transformers: Combiner Wars! The fifth episode is titled Homecoming, and is currently available for US viewers via Verizon's go90 streaming service here. Later today, we will update this story with the Machinima official YouTube link, which works for viewers outside of the US - though not all regions, somehow. Also coming later, our regular review of the episode, so keep your optics tuned on Seibertron.com!

UPDATE: YouTube clip embedded.

Just watched episode 5. If this was a longer series, this would have been a good scene. I know many people were hating on this series from frame 1, but I wanted to give a fair chance. After 5 episodes, I don't hate it, but I just don't like the overall story. Its direction, the world surrounding it....which is sad because I had such high hopes for it. Combiners and other large Transformers are literally my favorite characters in the franchise overall, its sad that 32+ years into this, they are very rarely portrayed in a way that seems accurate, if ever.

Sabrblade wrote:this deep disembodied voice who told her "Don't... let this happen." Who said that?! And why was this a thing? It's never brought up again in the episode, nor even really acknowledged that much by Windblade when she hears it. It was just really weird.

I'm guessing/hoping for Metroplex, or some Titan, but at this point who knows. Based on some Q&A from the developers, I'm about 90% certain the final scene of the last episode will contain some kind of teaser of something to come. Unfortunately I don't think there ever will be a follow up to this based on how poorly it is being received.

Also yeah, the whole "we need to make a combiner". I wasn't aware that the enigma was like a genie lamp you could just rub and have one pop up out of nowhere. I guess the individual combiner components really aren't going to be acknowledged at all...again very sad.

Yay for Devastator I guess...and its sad to say, but this does seem like a shameless attempt from an adult who hated Rodimus back in 1986, to "kill him" just because. Yes maybe several of us thought that way 30 years ago, even acted it out with our toys...but now it just seems silly.

o.supreme wrote:Just watched episode 5. If this was a longer series, this would have been a good scene. I know many people were hating on this series from frame 1, but I wanted to give a fair chance. After 5 episodes, I don't hate it, but I just don't like the overall story. Its direction, the world surrounding it....which is sad because I had such high hopes for it. Combiners and other large Transformers are literally my favorite characters in the franchise overall, its sad that 32+ years into this, they are very rarely portrayed in a way that seems accurate, if ever.

Sabrblade wrote:this deep disembodied voice who told her "Don't... let this happen." Who said that?! And why was this a thing? It's never brought up again in the episode, nor even really acknowledged that much by Windblade when she hears it. It was just really weird.

I'm guessing/hoping for Metroplex, or some Titan, but at this point who knows. Based on some Q&A from the developers, I'm about 90% certain the final scene of the last episode will contain some kind of teaser of something to come. Unfortunately I don't think there ever will be a follow up to this based on how poorly it is being received.

Also yeah, the whole "we need to make a combiner". I wasn't aware that the enigma was like a genie lamp you could just rub and have one pop up out of nowhere. I guess the individual combiner components really aren't going to be acknowledged at all...again very sad.

Yay for Devastator I guess...and its sad to say, but this does seem like a shameless attempt from an adult who hated Rodimus back in 1986, to "kill him" just because. Yes maybe several of us thought that way 30 years ago, even acted it out with our toys...but now it just seems silly.

If critical reception was the only thing that mattered then we would never have gotten a movie after revenge of the fallen. Online media is based on views and advertisement. Just because a bunch of adult fans are so vocally negative doesn't mean this won't get to finish what they're planning with Titans Return and part 3.

Not much to say other than Rodimus finally feeling natural. This feels like a more matured version of the character now who's learned to be cautious and kept his good morals intact; like a natural progression of the character in the G1 cartoon and other incarnations years later. Dunno where this Rodimus was in Episode 2, it's a complete 180.
Which is nice for me since Rodimus is probably my favourite Transformers character at this point.