Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW

Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW

Tuesday, August 23rd, 2016 11:29pm CDT

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Seibertronians, are you excited? The next episode of the Machinima Combiner Wars series is up, and it's good. Like, properly good. But it's still not without it's faults. Let's break it down:

We open with a dusty Colosseum-style arena. We see what is obviously the Constructicons fighting a mysterious figure, which is revealed to be Megatron himself. He beats them all quickly, and demands another challenger.
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Our First Look at Megatron

Prime arrives, saying he's not here to fight, along with Windblade, who wonders why they came all the way out to a desolate planet for Megatron.
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Windblade Watches from the Bleachers

Her City-speaker ability is again mentioned, this time by Megatron, driving that point home. Megs also mentioned how he's a big fan of her work (the killing part, that is). He rushes Prime, and Optimus has to engage the former Decepticon leader, with some of the usual mixed-in dialogue about how Prime "is nothing without the war", so on and so forth. It's actually very intriguing, as it points out interesting parts of Prime not previously divulged. This is one of my favorite parts of the series so far.
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Just Like the Old Days

Prime has a flashback mid-conversation to the Black-and-white scene we saw in some of the Trailers for the series, when Megatron tells Prime to pull the trigger, and end it. Megs then catches him off-guard with a massive blow. Windblade comes in to try and save him, but Optimus is already back up and fighting.
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Float Like A Fireflight, sting like a Bumblebee

The group talks about the Enigma of Combination for a bit, and Megatron learns that the Council is in possession of it.

Then comes one of the strangest and most out of place scenes in the entire series so far.

Windblade rather randomly and unprovoked walks up and sucker-punches Megatron to the ground. She tells him "Enough." (even though Megatron had already stopped fighting for a good few minutes, and he was making no motions to start again) and that Prime's "telling the truth", (even though Megatron hadn't shown any sign of doubt in what Optimus was saying. Heck, he didn't even have time to before he was suddenly beat to the ground.) She then proceeds to deliver almost the exact same line that Prime had just said, not only once but twice, one after another. And the times she says it sound so similar in tone that it almost seems like they accidentally put two takes of the same line in. Not only does she say it, but she says it in front of the constructicons! She literally puts the entirety of Cybertron singlehandedly in danger by saying basically straight to a combiner the one secret combiners shouldn't know! The Constructicons of course transmit this new info to probably all other combiners right away. This scene simply doesn't make sense. It's actually confusing. It's kind of a train wreck, and drags the whole episode down.

Megatron decides to be a part of the team, and the exit the arena. The old Decepticon leader decides to make fun of Prime's old catch phrase, and gives the order to Transform and roll out. The delivery (and Windblade's reaction to it) seem very out of place, especially after that last scene. It would have been better if it was delivered if Megatron had said "I've waited years to say this: Transform and roll out!" or something of the like.
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And There They go, off into the Sunset. Headed for Cybertron


So some final thoughts. This is a fairly good episode, but the main problem was the pacing. It's been a problem through the series I haven't touched on yet, but in this episode it's absolutely unavoidable. It rears its ugly head with every change of Pace, feeling, tension, or drama.

Voice acting is good in this one. I'm getting used to Windblade, Prime's good, and Megatron's actor gives a great performance, though I wouldn't peg it as Megatron. Speaking of Megs, one thing of note is that this iteration of the character lacks his arm cannon, even though the designs of the characters seem to be heavily based on G1.

The Animation is especially great in this one. It's surprisingly smooth and fluid and looks really really good. Again, there's the mouth movement issues, but I feel we're going to have to move pass those.

One point that I feel hasn't been touched upon enough is the fact that this is the first time it's referenced or shown that a combiner is actually multiple bots. It seems strange, because up until now it's been implied combiners are one, not many. This really hasn't been explained, and I'd like to know the rules.

So, you've read my opinion, make your own by watching it on Go90, and then share in the comments. Is there anything I missed? Tell us!

Credit(s): Bronzewolf


This article was last modified on Wednesday, August 24th, 2016 12:03am CDT

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Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818047)
Posted by Takihiko on August 23rd, 2016 @ 11:50pm CDT
Megatron did have his cannon but it was int he final scene just before they transformed and rolled out, I guess he took it off to fight hand to hand in the arena.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818075)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 24th, 2016 @ 1:15am CDT
Kurona wrote:It's up on Youtube for some non-US viewers



Seems to come out on youtube every Tuesday 5PM GMT


Thanks for the link. Being in Japan, this isn't available for me, so I worked some Google search magic to find a third party solution, ahem.

Btw, could some people help me please? Which countries does the YouTube link work in? Does it work on both mobile and/or "desktop"?

I can confirm that it doesn't work for me on Android and PS3 in Japan, using both mobile and desktop user agents. I suspect that it's probably just Japan and China that it doesn't work in, as Takara owns the rights in those territories?

Anyway, did anyone think that Megatron appeared like King Robert talking to Ned Stark from the first season of GOT? I expected Megs to say "All I want to do is leave Cybertron and the Decepticons and go out and (deleted), (deleted) and drink. To hell with them all, Prime!"
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818082)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 24th, 2016 @ 2:22am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.
Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.


You did read the posts I was referring to? Frame rate etc etc are all part of the package in a CGI flick. Whether it be BW Prime or Adventure. Just sit down, watch and be entertained is the gist of my post. Not counting the frame rate or how "limited" the lip synch etc etc. Storywise, the show is just starting, lot's more to know like those movie serials Spielberg and Lucas grew up on.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818085)
Posted by X3ROhour on August 24th, 2016 @ 2:46am CDT
That Bot wrote:I think he/she said we're wrong.



:lol:
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818108)
Posted by Kurona on August 24th, 2016 @ 5:49am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.
Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.


You did read the posts I was referring to? Frame rate etc etc are all part of the package in a CGI flick. Whether it be BW Prime or Adventure. Just sit down, watch and be entertained is the gist of my post. Not counting the frame rate or how "limited" the lip synch etc etc. Storywise, the show is just starting, lot's more to know like those movie serials Spielberg and Lucas grew up on.

Framerate is a very legitimate thing to argue about when it's slow to the point of being distracting and detrimental to the product. We're not meticulously counting every frame of each second; the frames are so few in number we can literally see them. That's not a good sign.

As for the story 'just starting', the series is about halfway through.

And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818109)
Posted by Burn on August 24th, 2016 @ 5:58am CDT
Kurona wrote:And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

Given we're only 25ish minutes in of what is essentially a new series ... it's really only been one full first episode.

People set their expectations too high.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818110)
Posted by Kurona on August 24th, 2016 @ 6:06am CDT
Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

Given we're only 25ish minutes in of what is essentially a new series ... it's really only been one full first episode.

People set their expectations too high.

But there's only like, 8 episodes. If we're one episode in... there's only two episodes.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818115)
Posted by Burn on August 24th, 2016 @ 6:36am CDT
Kurona wrote:
Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

Given we're only 25ish minutes in of what is essentially a new series ... it's really only been one full first episode.

People set their expectations too high.

But there's only like, 8 episodes. If we're one episode in... there's only two episodes.

Nothing wrong with your maths skills then. :-P
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818156)
Posted by Kurona on August 24th, 2016 @ 9:16am CDT
Fellow Seibertronians, in the wake of the release of Combiner Wars Episode 4 just yesterday; Machinima's Youtube Channel has put out a promotional Top Ten Combiner Wars characters video, as can be viewed below.



Most notable about this is that due to not actually having ten characters yet to make a full top ten list out of, the list includes Devastator and Victorion; hence giving us never-before-seen clips of future episodes, including Victorion landing on a structure and Devastator facing off against Megatron. Take a look and tell us what you think!
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818163)
Posted by bluecatcinema on August 24th, 2016 @ 9:33am CDT
I really enjoyed Megatron's snarky attitude. I didn't even mind the voice. It seemed like a fusion of Frank Welker and Steve Blum.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818204)
Posted by Bronzewolf on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:30am CDT
Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it? :HEADHURTS:
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818208)
Posted by Kurona on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:34am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it? :HEADHURTS:

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818217)
Posted by Bronzewolf on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:43am CDT
Kurona wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it? :HEADHURTS:

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

When do they say he was created by the council in episode 1? They mention he was loyal to them in later episodes, but I wasn't aware they said he was created by them.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818218)
Posted by william-james88 on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:44am CDT
Kurona wrote:Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1

I didnt catch that.

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it? :HEADHURTS:

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

I take personal offense to this [-(

No one cringd at this top 10 list :-D

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... des/34952/
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818219)
Posted by Kurona on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:44am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it? :HEADHURTS:

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

When do they say he was created by the council in episode 1? They mention he was loyal to them in later episodes, but I wasn't aware they said he was created by them.

Must have remembered wrong... in any case, it seems the intention is that they were created by the council, hence why they'd be loyal in the first place and why Menasor would know.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818222)
Posted by Kurona on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:45am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1

I didnt catch that.

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it? :HEADHURTS:

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

I take personal offense to this [-(

No one cringd at this top 10 list :-D

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... des/34952/

Hey now... I said like this. Your top ten lists are great ;)
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818228)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:53am CDT
This... This top-ten characters video is a complete and utter joke! There are literally only eleven characters in this who have any dialogue, and of those eleven, four of them (all the female ones, sadly) are newer ones whom the average G1 Joe wouldn't know of offhand due to their having been made in recent years. And of those four, of course the Mistress of Flame gets omitted for her not being a fighter in this (being a boring politician instead) and having no actual name (just a title), while Windblade's being the central protagonist requires her inclusion, and Victorion's being a more-special-than-special Combiner also requires her own inclusion, which leaves Maxima to be included by mere process of elimination and the need to round out the total to ten. Thus, this video is less of an actual "top-ten" and more of "these seven 1980s G1 characters in the order we remember them from least to most, plus three of the four new girls tossed in for marketing and numbering reasons." >:oP

Also, boo to putting Optimus at the #1 spot. For once, Megatron totally deserved that spot.

And they talked about Megatron turning into a gun in this video when mere moments later they show footage from episode 4 of him turning into a tank! Ugh.
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818232)
Posted by william-james88 on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:59am CDT
Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance ;)
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818235)
Posted by Kurona on August 24th, 2016 @ 11:01am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance ;)

April Fools is only about 7 months away ;)
Re: Machinima's Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 4 REVIEW (1818236)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 24th, 2016 @ 11:02am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance ;)

Or you could dedicate one of your Top 10 lists to ranking the characters that seems like a far better list, only to still have Optimus as #1 :-D

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