Menus and Bonus Features for Transformers: The Movie from Shout! Factory

For whatever reason, even though I pre-ordered over a month ago, I won't get my copy of the movie from Amazon until Wednesday.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:For whatever reason, even though I pre-ordered over a month ago, I won't get my copy of the movie from Amazon until Wednesday.

I guess Amazon doesn't think the movie is "cool enough" to offer release date shipping like they do for other things?

I'm really conflicted on getting this. I had the VHS I bought the DVD, I have 20th anniversary DVD and I've seen the movie so many times I don't ever need to watch it again. Do I really need a new "bonus feature" with flint dillie saying for the millionth time "well we killed Optimus prime because he was just a toy and he wasn't on the shelves anymore. That's all he was, a toy. We didn't think kids would be locking themselves on their rooms over it"?

yeah, the real selling point for me is the quality. Now that we all have bigger TVs, getting the high def version of the film seems like it needs to happen.

The Japanese cover is also a huge bonus to me. That cover is beautiful.

Randomhero wrote:I've seen the movie so many times I don't ever need to watch it again.

Nonsense!...you can never see this movie too many times

chuckdawg1999 wrote:For whatever reason, even though I pre-ordered over a month ago, I won't get my copy of the movie from Amazon until Wednesday.

really? Mine is coming tomorrow the blueray with steelbook and the DvD

Will the Blueray and Steelbook Blueray have features that the DVD version will not have or will they all have the same features on all of the versions?
I ask because the Walking Dead season 6 DVD doesn't have the unedited Megan scene so I was wondering if something similar would occur with this.
Thank you for any and all help!

I've basically bought every version of every format of this film released in the UK (and a couple that weren't) and the one thing I really, really, really want is for the few glaring instances of miscoloured characters to be corrected.

Hell, even just colouring one of the two Frenzys as Rumble (you know which shot I mean) would be enough to make it the best version, in my eyes.

BlackCharger wrote:Will the Blueray and Steelbook Blueray have features that the DVD version will not have or will they all have the same features on all of the versions?
I ask because the Walking Dead season 6 DVD doesn't have the unedited Megan scene so I was wondering if something similar would occur with this.
Thank you for any and all help!

Not aware of any differences between the two special feature wise - this is based on the info from Shout Factory's website

Kyleor wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:For whatever reason, even though I pre-ordered over a month ago, I won't get my copy of the movie from Amazon until Wednesday.

I guess Amazon doesn't think the movie is "cool enough" to offer release date shipping like they do for other things?

chaosalphaandomega wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:For whatever reason, even though I pre-ordered over a month ago, I won't get my copy of the movie from Amazon until Wednesday.

really? Mine is coming tomorrow the blueray with steelbook and the DvD

I emailed them several times today because I wanted to know what was going on. The pre-order DID have day of release delivery, that's what all their movies and CDs offer. They did explain how things are shipped and I did get a free month of Prime.

I got the steel book version on Saturday, Shout Factory shipped it early! I must say I have the Australia version Blu Ray disk and this set blew that one away! The quality on this blu ray was amazing. I was watching this on a Samsung 55 inch LED TV and I have NEVER seen this movie look so vibrant, full of color and background details are truly amazing. The only negative was there are only a few new bonus features and they show you how they cleaned up the film and the process of the 4K transfer which was very cool. The bonus materials are from the 25th Anniversary disc but still overall I was very happy with this purchase. The poster that comes with the Blu Ray set is very nice as well but you have to order directly from Shout Factory to get it. It is very nice to see the amount of effort that went into this project from Shout Factory. Hot Rod looks amazing, when Megatron is transformed into Galvatron you can see a huge difference in the purple lines used to transform him , the Earth scenes with Hot Rod and Daniel are bright and colorful. Sound quality was also good. If you watch this film in a dark room like you would in a movie theater, I think you will be very impressed with it. A lot of scenes were cleaned up, removing imperfections etc and you can see the difference very clearly! This Blu Ray made my day! Thank you for restoring a wonderful piece of animation history!

Is the movie in surround sound?

Anybody having issues transferring the digital copy to an iPad or iPhone?

9adam83 wrote: Hot Rod looks amazing,

Any chance of a screen capture (or even just snapping a pic of the screen with a camera)? Hot Rod looking right (as opposed to how he did on the 20th DVD) takes this from a "meh, I'll probably get it eventually" to "oh man, I better snap this up as soon as possible)

So...on my lunch break I decided to check out Best Buy (they had the best price for Civil War between themselves, Target & Wal-Mart...) I knew the 2 big chains would not have TF:TM..but thought Best Buy might...

No such luck...but I was close enough to a non-chain media store...low and behold they had it! $20. No need to pre-order weeks/months in advance, just walk on in and buy it...Ahh I miss the good old days.

o.supreme wrote:So...on my lunch break I decided to check out Best Buy (they had the best price for Civil War between themselves, Target & Wal-Mart...) I knew the 2 big chains would not have TF:TM..but thought Best Buy might...

No such luck...but I was close enough to a non-chain media store...low and behold they had it! $20. No need to pre-order weeks/months in advance, just walk on in and buy it...Ahh I miss the good old days.

Local Walmart had the DVD + Digital Copy but not the Blu-ray. Luckily my Blu-ray/DVD/Digital Copy is sitting in my mailbox

cool...but then again Wal-Marts in my area have always been bad when it comes to media selection.

hey canadians, for those who have not pre-ordered and are looking to find one in the stores, have any of you had any luck?
The local Best Buy in my area has informed me that there are no copies in Ontario or Canada for that matter.
Is there a shortage of this going around that I don't know about?
This is bogus!

mesh wrote:Is there a shortage of this going around that I don't know about?
This is bogus!

I'll trade you a copy of the TF:TM Blu Ray I found in store for a CW Computron you can find in store

So is this available in stores or is it an online only thing? I stopped in TRU, target, walmart & bestbuy today but no one had it. Going to be passing by a different target & bestbuy tomorrow but if its not in stores i wont bother stopping.

see above...itscramtastic found it a t a local Wal-Mart. I found mine in a non-chain media satore. They are out there...But I can almost guaranty TRU & Target wont have it. If you have a Frys or FYE in your area...try those.

Fun fact, this release is also available on iTunes. The release appears to include all the bonus features as on the Blu Ray. If all the ruckus about the digital copy thats included with the disc being nothing but trouble, then for those looking for a digital solution, this is here!

o.supreme wrote:see above...itscramtastic found it a t a local Wal-Mart. I found mine in a non-chain media satore. They are out there...But I can almost guaranty TRU & Target wont have it. If you have a Frys or FYE in your area...try those.

Nope got nothing like that in my area, few chain stores and a comic shop everything else closed down years ago. Plus i wouldnt use FYE if they were still around, had a bad experience with them and vowed never to use them again. But i checked out the other best buy and they had a single copy of the steelbook version, thats the only version they got in and it was the last copy in the area. Surprised target doesnt have it, i got Escape From NY from them and thats a hell of a lot less popular than transformers.

Megatron Wolf wrote: Surprised target doesnt have it, i got Escape From NY from them and thats a hell of a lot less popular than transformers.

Less popular than the Paramount Movie franchise YES. Less popular than TF:TM itself...no

We as fans love TF:TM..but outside our niche, its not really well known. I was fortunate . The guy I was asking about it could not even find it in the directory...he kept thinking I was looking for one of the Bay Films...He didn't even know there was a "cartoon movie"...it was only by chance a younger female clerk overheard my conversation as I kept saying "30th anniversary edition" over and over again...she found it in their system and where it would be in the store.

Glad you found one though. The clerks at my Best Buy had no clue.

Places I've seen it for sale. Wasn't specifically looking for it, just happened to see it.

FYE had all 3 versions, Steelbook for like $32 (I think), regular BR for 22 (Again I think) and DVD for $10 (that I'm sure of).

Meijers only had the DVD (at least I didn't see the BR) for a buck less than FYE.

For those of you with the movie, I highly recommend the new feature about the history of the movie. It really covers aspects of the film that I feel were overlooked in the past, especially when it comes to the music, although that could've gone a little more in-depth. I also would've liked some mention of the film's history as a midnight movie.

Here's the copy/paste of my review. Let's just say I wasn't as happy as when the mail arrived today:

I really thought that Shout! Factory was going to FINALLY give this film the treatment it deserves. I was pumped, and enthralled that the 30th anniversary of this 1986 film was finally seeing a Blu-ray release in the USA from an official source.

I put the disc in. Nice animated menu. Went to the Bonus section and watched the new videos, paying close attention to the one about the "restoration." It was fascinating to see the actual process. Well, what they were allowed to show that is. There were some screens blurred out and such, probably containing industry secrets. Okay, back out to the nice menu, and started the film. They didn't address the gate weave? Okay, so they didn't. Ooh, this background looks nice! Then, more scratches. Did they paint ANY of them out like they claimed in the video? I was starting to get a bit concerned. Once you see errors on something so important to you, you can't UNsee them. Then it happened. 8:36. Eight minutes and thirty-six seconds. Through to 8:44. Some of the WORST video I have seen on an official release. It's like someone hit a switch that dropped the quality to VHS while another person was trying, and failing, to give the scene a 3D conversion gone horribly wrong. There's suddenly two outlines of Hot Rod and my eyes actually tried to cross when this happened. I couldn't believe it.

I haven't been this disappointed since my marriage. I was so jarred by that short little bit of the scene that it just took me out of the experience all together. I just kind of skimmed the rest and, aside from the usual scratches and gate weave (I thought this was a newly sourced print?), I just ejected the disc and put it away. I honestly don't know if I'm going to be keeping this. Maybe that horrible error, as well as the usual suspects, can finally be addressed in the Super-Deluxe This Is It Folks.... No, Seriously Edition in five or ten years. One additional note about the audio. It's better, yes. But still needs a LOT of work. There are moments that you think the events on screen will blast you out of your chair, then it gets unusually quiet in the middle of the action. One bot punches another, they return the blow and it sounds like they were recorded from two different eras. Very jarring.

I know that this movie is something that will never be "perfect", but it really looks like a rush job. I gave a lot of low grades on this, and I wish that I didn't have to. Video received a 2.5 for the gate weave (Really, there is no excuse for this. Fan editors and students can remove it for crying out loud) and scratches. Audio received a 2.5 as well due to being uneven and jarring to the point of becoming disinterested. Extras I gave a 1.5. Terrible. The new video was nice, but Shout! Factory didn't port over all of the extras from the Sony 20th anniversary extras. Instead, they included just a few, not upscaled. I always say, if you're gonna port them over, port them ALL. So, with that we end up with a 2.5 overall. Pretty bad for such a long wait.

Pictures in the link below.

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Yeah, I noticed the fuzziness in the first scene with Hotrod and thought it might just be my player acting up. Too bad...btu I wont let that ruin the experience. I wonder if it is that way on the widescreen verison as well? I'll have to check. But overall I did enjoy watching . For someone who has seen this film hundreds of times, I did actually notice some improvements. But siome of the dirt/imperfections were still there. As someone who actually works in QC (granted for mortgage, not media) it wasn't perfect...but it was an improvement.

What I actually wanted to comment on here was something Zi don't think has been brought up.

SUBTITLES. S!F has been criticized in the past for not offering subtitles for the deaf/hard-of-hearing. Now this doesn't effect me personally, but we have become accustomed to watching many movies with subtitles as they initially assisted my daughter in learning to read.

This is the first release ever of TF:TM with subtitles. Bravo to S!F for the attempt. however I myself typed up the dialogue of the movie myself 20+ years ago (when all we had was VHS). Now would *think* that S!F would have had a copy of the script to go by, and I do understand some characters such as Blurr, Wreck-Gar and Wheelie deliver some lines that are difficult to translate, but I did notice a few errors, and surprisingly a few lines of dialogue that apparently I had wrong all this time, now finally brought to light. I think however they may have just gotten fan-script" online and didn't QC it very well. Here are a few things I noticed:

general observations:
Anytime a character transforms it appears as: [robotic pulsing]
I don't think the spelling of the Universal Greeting will ever be agreed upon until we see an original screipt


Errors:
1. in the beginning Arblus is incorrectly named "Orbulus"
2. During the attack of Autobot City, Kickback's line "delicious eh Shrapnel?" is incorrectly translated as "delicious eh Scrap-mate?"
3. When the near-dead Decepticons are pushed out of Astrotrain, someone says "Brothers, Don't!" the word "Brothers" is omitted from the subtitling
4. A lot of Blurr's Dialogue is truncated. Often repeated words only appear once, and some dialogue is absent altogether.
5. When a line of dialogue starts with a conjunction, it is sometimes omitted- Unicrons line "...But very well, I'll Provide you with a new body..." and Scourges line "But remember, we belong to HIM"... in both cases the "But" is removed, there are other examples of this.

*possible* errors* as stated earlier, some characters lines are hard to distinguish unless you have the original script here are some that I have a difference of opinion with, but again I may be wrong, maybe like some song lyrics, I've just bearing hearing it wrong all these years:

1.Wheelies line when he reveals the Quintesson ship I always thought was "Dipster, over there" (referring to a junk car, or in this case, a junky space ship), but on the subtitles it translates as "Give stare, over there", which makes more sense I admit, but it doesn't sound anything like that to me.

2. Wrteck-Gar's line after Hot Rod says "We have to Destroy Unicron"...I always heard as "Yes Friends act now...destroy unicron" (like a call to action a telemarketer would use)

instead they have it as "Yes friends, and now, Destroy Unicron"...which makes no sense to me, but whatever.

3. Another line from Wreck-Gar when the Junkion ship is fired upon by Unicron, I always heard as "Friends get it now...resist fire, rain and corrosion for up to 5 years..." (again a telemarketer pitching a product)

but it reads onscreen "Framed in Enamel, resist fire, rain and corrosion for up to 5 years" which *could* make sense...it just doesn't sound like that to me.

4. lastly is Unicrons last line I've ALWAYS heard it as "It's too late, you cannot, destroy...my destiny!!(head blows off)... which to me makes way more sense than-

what it translates as ""Destiny... you cannot, destroy...my destiny!!(head blows off)...now to me there is no way, other than them both being 3 syllables "It's too late" sounds like "Destiny"...but then again I remember the end of the Transformers Armada PS2 game, Unicron saying the same thing, thinking it was just an "odd variation" of the TF:TM line, it sounds nothing like that to me, but could it be I've just heard it wrong all these years...?

There may have been a few other oddities/errors I missed. I also thought it was interesting, perhaps even the author of the subttles didn't even know what wreck-gar was saying at times as it shows up as *speaking alien language* heh...

lastly, the TF Theme by Lion has fully translated lyrics in both the opening and closing credits, none of the other songs during the film however are translated.

o.supreme wrote:1.Wheelies line when he reveals the Quintesson ship I always thought was "Dipster, over there" (referring to a junk car, or in this case, a junky space ship), but on the subtitles it translates as "Give stare, over there", which makes more sense I admit, but it doesn't sound anything like that to me.

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4. lastly is Unicrons last line I've ALWAYS heard it as "It's too late, you cannot, destroy...my destiny!!(head blows off)... which to me makes way more sense than-

what it translates as ""Destiny... you cannot, destroy...my destiny!!(head blows off)...now to me there is no way, other than them both being 3 syllables "It's too late" sounds like "Destiny"...but then again I remember the end of the Transformers Armada PS2 game, Unicron saying the same thing, thinking it was just an "odd variation" of the TF:TM line, it sounds nothing like that to me, but could it be I've just heard it wrong all these years...?

For these two, I always heard "Give stare, over there" and "Destiny... you cannot... destroy... my... destiny!!" every time I watched the movie.

For the rest of the "possible errors", without double checking the movie, I'm not sure about #3 but I'm pretty sure you're right in thinking #2 is erroneous.

I wasn't watching the time but the scene by the lake with Hot Rod and Daniel features some horrible blur until we get the close up on Daniel. I haven't had a chance to watch the whole movie but I've skipped to my favorite scenes and they look ok, I really am not one who can judge quality

8:36 to 8:44.