Michael Bay and the Edit of Transformers
Saturday, July 14th, 2007 7:37PM CDT
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Posted by Zeds on July 14th, 2007 @ 7:49pm CDT
Posted by Bouncy X on July 14th, 2007 @ 7:59pm CDT
and i'm willing to bet there will be an autobot and decepticon cover to make the hardcore collectors buy it twice..lol
Posted by Myriagon on July 14th, 2007 @ 8:47pm CDT
Posted by Zeds on July 14th, 2007 @ 9:22pm CDT
Myriagon wrote:man i really wanna get teh dvd just to see the movie frame after frame after frame and again, lol.
QFT! That will fast become a past time for me when the DVD is in-hand.
Posted by Kalon on July 14th, 2007 @ 10:21pm CDT
Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi on July 14th, 2007 @ 10:37pm CDT
Kalon wrote:I know how he edited the movie, I don't need to read a story about it. He did it just like shown in my sig.
don't see how nor agree with the edit did that to the Transformers. Have you read the article to see how much effort was invovled or do you simply dismiss it because this film wasn't to your taste?
Posted by Kalon on July 14th, 2007 @ 10:47pm CDT
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Kalon wrote:I know how he edited the movie, I don't need to read a story about it. He did it just like shown in my sig.
don't see how nor agree with the edit did that to the Transformers. Have you read the article to see how much effort was invovled or do you simply dismiss it because this film wasn't to your taste?
Having worked as an editor(Trained in Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premier and Avid Xpress) I know the process. The movie was a waste of film.
Posted by Robinson on July 14th, 2007 @ 10:48pm CDT
Posted by xxaMaxx on July 14th, 2007 @ 11:00pm CDT
Kalon wrote:Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Kalon wrote:I know how he edited the movie, I don't need to read a story about it. He did it just like shown in my sig.
don't see how nor agree with the edit did that to the Transformers. Have you read the article to see how much effort was invovled or do you simply dismiss it because this film wasn't to your taste?
Having worked as an editor(Trained in Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premier and Avid Xpress) I know the process. The movie was a waste of film.
Funny, I'm not trained in video yet feel that I am more than capable of evaluating this movie myself. It's not going to win Oscar's, but it is entertaining.
Posted by Phenotype on July 14th, 2007 @ 11:34pm CDT
Kalon wrote:Having worked as an editor(Trained in Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premier and Avid Xpress) I know the process. The movie was a waste of film.
There's really no pleasing you is there? I guess you'll just have to cry yourself to sleep again tonight.
Posted by KoH4711 on July 14th, 2007 @ 11:41pm CDT
“I watched the first episode of the [1984] TV series just to get a flavor”, says Rubell. “I didn't want to be influenced beyond that. None of the editors are fan-boys, so we were often taken to the Bay woodshed for cutting out some important reference to the original series.
I found that bit of the article pretty interesting. It would be nice if they did an extra showing some of these homages that might be missed the first time through.
Posted by on July 14th, 2007 @ 11:42pm CDT
Kalon wrote:Having worked as an editor(Trained in Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premier and Avid Xpress) I know the process. The movie was a waste of film.
Just because you've worked as an editor and used editing software does not make you an expert. I can cite a friend of mine who has done direction and loved the movie.
Posted by Liege Evilmus on July 14th, 2007 @ 11:46pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on July 14th, 2007 @ 11:49pm CDT
Posted by on July 14th, 2007 @ 11:57pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Knock it off guys. Kalon has the right to his opinion
My apologies, Mkall. I was just trying to say that claiming that working as editor does not make his opinion more valid.
Certainly, my statement was not intended to state that he no right to his opinion.
Posted by demarcusgd on July 15th, 2007 @ 12:14am CDT
Good article, though I didn't care for the flick, I liked the technical info. And this isn't a dig, but jeez, I bet Bay can be a nightmare to edit for, his style seems like murder... I thought a rather odd tidbit was that the editors were "taken to the woodshed" by Bay, for editing out material that referenced the series, there's a joke in there somewhere.
Posted by atatcommander on July 15th, 2007 @ 12:33am CDT
Posted by Lord_Megatron on July 15th, 2007 @ 12:48am CDT
atatcommander wrote:Very interesting article, and awesome movie. Can't wait for the sequel.
I couldn't agree with you more!
Posted by Ravage XK on July 15th, 2007 @ 1:24am CDT
Why on earth would they edit out stuff the core fans would appreciate? It makes no sense I tell you!
Posted by Megatron Wolf on July 15th, 2007 @ 2:15am CDT
Ravage XK wrote:Stuff the DVD, I need Blu Ray.
Why on earth would they edit out stuff the core fans would appreciate? It makes no sense I tell you!
Because Bay didnt want to make a toy movie and he had no clue bout TF to start with. That and he had to make a movie that evrey one would like not just the core fans. Even though i think he could've made a G1 movie and evrey one would've still liked it. Im suprised half the G1 reffrences made it in. Im sure there was alot that got cut that was based on G1. I liked the movie. It wasnt the best thing to come from TF but it sure as hell is better than what we've had for the past 5 years or so. For all of those that say "oh the movie sucked it ruined TF" go and watch the hole armada, and cybertron series back to back then watch the movie and tell me that its the worst thing in the TF universe.
Posted by Fireblast on July 15th, 2007 @ 7:01am CDT
Megatron_Wolf wrote:Ravage XK wrote:Stuff the DVD, I need Blu Ray.
Why on earth would they edit out stuff the core fans would appreciate? It makes no sense I tell you!
Because Bay didnt want to make a toy movie and he had no clue bout TF to start with. That and he had to make a movie that evrey one would like not just the core fans. Even though i think he could've made a G1 movie and evrey one would've still liked it. Im suprised half the G1 reffrences made it in. Im sure there was alot that got cut that was based on G1. I liked the movie. It wasnt the best thing to come from TF but it sure as hell is better than what we've had for the past 5 years or so. For all of those that say "oh the movie sucked it ruined TF" go and watch the hole armada, and cybertron series back to back then watch the movie and tell me that its the worst thing in the TF universe.
No, Cybertron didn't ruin Transformers. The only bad thing wrong with it was Hasbro trying to make it tie into Armada and Energon. Energon was terrible. What was really bad was Beast Machines. It had good writing but the whole Transformers race is organic didn't sell on me. I think the movie was a plus and a minus. It's a plus because the interest in Transformers is an all time high. The minus is well, Hasbro, since the designs have thousands of moving pieces it would be impossible to ever make a movie accurate Transformer. Toywise what is debatable that ruined Transformers is those pathetic Animorphs toys that transformed when Beast Machines was out and Star Wars Transformers which a majority sit on stores shelves here.
Posted by Kayevcee on July 15th, 2007 @ 9:52am CDT
-Nick
Posted by Low Convoy on July 15th, 2007 @ 10:16am CDT
Kayevcee wrote:I'll tell you what ruined Transformers. Message boards. Think about it. When was the last time you heard someone moaning about how TF was doomed while it was actually selling by the trolley-load before you discovered the internet?
-Nick
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER
Nuff said.
Posted by Kayevcee on July 15th, 2007 @ 11:57am CDT
-Nick
Posted by Phenotype on July 15th, 2007 @ 12:30pm CDT
Kayevcee wrote:I'll tell you what ruined Transformers. Message boards. Think about it. When was the last time you heard someone moaning about how TF was doomed while it was actually selling by the trolley-load before you discovered the internet?
-Nick
WELL SAID. Nick FTW!
Posted by The Paragon of Virtue on July 15th, 2007 @ 5:04pm CDT
Low Convoy wrote:Kayevcee wrote:I'll tell you what ruined Transformers. Message boards. Think about it. When was the last time you heard someone moaning about how TF was doomed while it was actually selling by the trolley-load before you discovered the internet?
-Nick
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER
Nuff said.
This page in particular is especially true: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Fans
Posted by Cybertron Optimus on July 15th, 2007 @ 5:28pm CDT
g1transformers wrote:Can't wait for the DVD release of this movie with all the extras and the dirctor's cut and all that other savory stuff that makes my mouth water!
Same here, dude
Posted by Phategod1 on July 15th, 2007 @ 5:59pm CDT
Kalon wrote:I know how he edited the movie, I don't need to read a story about it. He did it just like shown in my sig.
Your sig is halarious I tried to post a review Weeks ago but for some reason this website has some type of timer and I took like Three hours writing it and when I hit post it did not go threw and every thing was lost. But your sig pretty much sums up my feelings.
Posted by i_amtrunks on July 15th, 2007 @ 7:17pm CDT
having a different editor to edit for different components of the film... interesting and actually quite smart!
I would love to see how all 5 editors would have edited the entire film if the had the chance.
Posted by D-340 on July 16th, 2007 @ 5:24am CDT
The Paragon of Virtue wrote:Low Convoy wrote:Kayevcee wrote:I'll tell you what ruined Transformers. Message boards. Think about it. When was the last time you heard someone moaning about how TF was doomed while it was actually selling by the trolley-load before you discovered the internet?
-Nick
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER
Nuff said.
This page in particular is especially true: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Fans
Wow, those sum up some people around here to a T. I LMAO
Posted by on July 16th, 2007 @ 5:30am CDT
These were the best:
The most important thing for the brand to do is release homages of Generation 1 characters over and over and over and over and over.
Any homage of a Generation 1 character which is not given the name of the original character is a direct insult to all fans.
Any character which is given the name of a Generation 1 character which is not an homage to the original character is a direct insult to all fans.
Any character which is given the name of a Generation 1 character and is also an homage of the same character but who doesn't behave exactly like the Generation 1 character is a direct insult to all fans.
Because all fans have an inalienable right to own every toy, toys which would never be released under normal circumstances should never be given a chance at release through exclusive channels. It would be better for the toy to never be released at all than for some people to get to enjoy it.
God, I am so sick of G1.
Posted by Anubis Prime on July 18th, 2007 @ 5:05am CDT