New In-Hand Images of Transformers Subscription Service Double Pretenders Optimus Prime and Megatron
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The in-hand images show that it is difficult to get Megatron into his shell and includes the instructions for how he is supposed to work. We've included Puma's comments as he attempted to make the shell work.
Check out all the images and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
And we have our Pretender Shells! But those aren't the weapons for the Megatron/Grand Max shell we first saw. Boo!
Also, these instructions. Wow. That Megatron sure likes like Grand...
Also, these instructions. Wow. That Megatron sure likes like Grand...
So yea. That gray part attaches to the chest and is supposed to hold Spacewarp in the shell. Sadly, looking at it wrong makes it pop off.
Then it slots into these guys in the front shell and Spacewarp fitting in. I haven't figure out how to get legs to fit in the back shell.
Got it! Make him squat!
Grand/Fort Max's head will fit inside. The shells are identical.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 27th, 2017 @ 5:59pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:14pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:20pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:28pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:For clarity, those bio cards aren't mine. I just saw those pics of them and shared'em here.
It wouldn't let me leave the pictures so I couldn't see which Facebook it was from. Can you clarify and I will update?
Posted by Flashwave on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:29pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:38pm CDT
I dunno whose Facebook they were from, I just found them embedded in a post on The Allspark. Maybe they're from that user's Facebook.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:For clarity, those bio cards aren't mine. I just saw those pics of them and shared'em here.
It wouldn't let me leave the pictures so I couldn't see which Facebook it was from. Can you clarify and I will update?
I didn't expect the pics to get news'd.
Posted by Break on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:56pm CDT
It does give me the idea how they could explain away why Transformers would have Pretenders shells...it could be a way to protect them from an overdose of radiation ala Beast Wars.
These make me wonder how much it costs to subscribe, as I like the looks of both.
Posted by RAR on April 27th, 2017 @ 6:58pm CDT
Or are they ancient moulds someone found in storage somewhere ?
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 7:01pm CDT
The monkey shell is just a redeco of Oilmaster's shell that was made wholecloth by Boss Fight Studios for BotCon 2015.RAR wrote:So I really want to know where they got those shells from did Takara reproduce them for a planned reissue of Grand Maximus and then not release it so the shell mould was going spare ?
Or are they ancient moulds someone found in storage somewhere ?
The Grand Max shell... I think was explained somewhere before, but I don't remember. Might have been unearthed when Takara did Encore Fort Max, but obviously wasn't gonna be used for that figure since Fort Max didn't have a Pretender shell.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 7:06pm CDT
This is unrelated to what Hasbro is currently doing at retail. Fun Pub took this initiative on their own.Break wrote:I had been wondering if Pretenders were coming soon, what with first the Combiners ala year 3 of G1, and then rebranded Headmasters ala year 4 of G1. Not a large scale thing, but nice to see.
The fiction made for these toys already explained that Optimus and Megatron used these forms to hide themselves on Earth from Thunder Mayhem, with Megatron hiding as a human civilian and Optimus as a city zoo gorilla named "Garry".Break wrote:It does give me the idea how they could explain away why Transformers would have Pretenders shells...it could be a way to protect them from an overdose of radiation ala Beast Wars.
Unfortunately, the window for this subscription service ended last summer. These figures are a long time coming.Break wrote:These make me wonder how much it costs to subscribe, as I like the looks of both.
Posted by WreckerJack on April 27th, 2017 @ 7:14pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 7:25pm CDT
Spacewarp is a preexisting character who was originally planned for release in the old 2003 Universe line as a Toys'R'Us exclusive redeco of the Armada Jetfire toy.WreckerJack wrote:The colors on Spacewarp and the helm shape remind me of Skyshadow (Blackshadow) from Titans Return. I thought that it may have been the same character but upon further inspection, Spacewarp is a she. The one thing on her card I don't understand is how she can smirk with that battle mask on. (Well ok, maybe we just can't see it.)
Though the originally-planned figure was never picked up by any store chain, the toy was eventually released in a modified form as Astrotrain, a 2007 Club Store exclusive by the Transformers Collector Club, with a new headsculpt and new redecos of the Giant Planet Mini-Con Team instead of redecos of the Space Mini-Con Team.
Years later, the TCC Facebook fiction of 2014-2016 would bring back the original Spacewarp concept and reinvented it as a female Unicron Trilogy character who went on all kinds of crazy adventures in outer space.
She gained a fan following through her official Facebook fiction titled "Spacewarp's Log", in which she spun tales of her wild adventures to the readers. Her popularity led to the Club finally giving her a chance to have an official toy in the Club's last hurrah of toy releases. Thus, we have this TFSS Spacewarp toy, with Megatron's bio containing references to Spacewarp's Log, ensuring us that she's still that same character despite being paired with a version of G1 Megatron.
Posted by Kurona on April 27th, 2017 @ 8:08pm CDT
I want more characters like her honestly. She was so cool and her log was so great.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 9:15pm CDT
The author of this bio likes to think that the Doctor whom Spacewarp encountered was the Ninth Doctor.Name: Spacewarp
Function: Adventurer
Motto: “All I ask is a neutrino wind at my back, a nebula to dodge, and the flung spray and blown spume of a supernova, and you'll find me a satisfied wanderer.”
STRENGTH: 2 INTELLIGENCE: 8 SPEED: 10+ ENDURANCE: 5 RANK: 4 COURAGE: 10 FIREBLAST: 10+ SKILL: 9
Bio: A card-sharping, engex-guzzling, rough-and-tumble Cybertronian, Spacewarp has been everywhere, seen everything, done everything. She's plied the spaceways as a pirate, found work as a soldier-for-hire, even engaged in the occasional bout of freelance peacekeeping. She loves spinning yarns of her past exploits, and her tales grow with each telling. To hear her tell it, she's broker a peace between angry gods, saved the galaxy three and a half times, charmed tribes of primitive Cybertronians on long-lost colony worlds, accidentally destroyed an entire solar system, won all the gold the Galran Khanganete on a single roll of the dice, and even gone toe-to-toe with not one but two of the Thirteen. She claims her current, Mini-Con stature is but a temporary impediment, the legacy of a run-in with a time traveler wielding a Tissue Compression Eliminator device.
Regardless of her size, she's a force to be reckoned with. When binary bonded with Megatron, whom she finds fascinating in a case-study-of-a-tyrant way, she can utilize his connection to a black hole to power a space bridge to anywhere in the universe. In her spaceship configuration, she can achieve FTL velocity and even, under the right circumstances, pierce the dimensional veil between universes. Her most versatile form, the Transwarp Blaster rifle, can rewrite the fundamental properties of reality itself, tear a hole in space and time, or simply unleash a massive geyser of energy able to overwhelm all but the most heavily-shielded of targets. Despite her potent capabilities, or perhaps because of them, she tends to be overconfident; her physical strength is low, and she's not quite as clever as she thinks she is. She enjoys her partnership with Megatron, who has proved invaluable in extricating herself from the situations she blithely walks into. She's aware that he sees her as a tool, and intends to skedaddle should he ever push her too far. For now, though, she believes her abilities make her too valuable for him to carelessly exploit. She just may be right about that.
Posted by Ultra Markus on April 27th, 2017 @ 9:18pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on April 27th, 2017 @ 9:26pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Here's an unpublished bio that was written just for the little Spacewarp figure in this set, but ultimately didn't make it into the final product:The author of this bio likes to think that the Doctor whom Spacewarp encountered was the Ninth Doctor.Name: Spacewarp
Function: Adventurer
Motto: “All I ask is a neutrino wind at my back, a nebula to dodge, and the flung spray and blown spume of a supernova, and you'll find me a satisfied wanderer.”
STRENGTH: 2 INTELLIGENCE: 8 SPEED: 10+ ENDURANCE: 5 RANK: 4 COURAGE: 10 FIREBLAST: 10+ SKILL: 9
Bio: A card-sharping, engex-guzzling, rough-and-tumble Cybertronian, Spacewarp has been everywhere, seen everything, done everything. She's plied the spaceways as a pirate, found work as a soldier-for-hire, even engaged in the occasional bout of freelance peacekeeping. She loves spinning yarns of her past exploits, and her tales grow with each telling. To hear her tell it, she's broker a peace between angry gods, saved the galaxy three and a half times, charmed tribes of primitive Cybertronians on long-lost colony worlds, accidentally destroyed an entire solar system, won all the gold the Galran Khanganete on a single roll of the dice, and even gone toe-to-toe with not one but two of the Thirteen. She claims her current, Mini-Con stature is but a temporary impediment, the legacy of a run-in with a time traveler wielding a Tissue Compression Eliminator device.
Regardless of her size, she's a force to be reckoned with. When binary bonded with Megatron, whom she finds fascinating in a case-study-of-a-tyrant way, she can utilize his connection to a black hole to power a space bridge to anywhere in the universe. In her spaceship configuration, she can achieve FTL velocity and even, under the right circumstances, pierce the dimensional veil between universes. Her most versatile form, the Transwarp Blaster rifle, can rewrite the fundamental properties of reality itself, tear a hole in space and time, or simply unleash a massive geyser of energy able to overwhelm all but the most heavily-shielded of targets. Despite her potent capabilities, or perhaps because of them, she tends to be overconfident; her physical strength is low, and she's not quite as clever as she thinks she is. She enjoys her partnership with Megatron, who has proved invaluable in extricating herself from the situations she blithely walks into. She's aware that he sees her as a tool, and intends to skedaddle should he ever push her too far. For now, though, she believes her abilities make her too valuable for him to carelessly exploit. She just may be right about that.
Authorial intent though it may be, was it 9 or 10 that ended up shrinking Death's Head?
*goes to Wiki to look*
EDIT: Neither. Death's Head encounterz Doctor #7 in The CrossRoads of Time who uses a TCE on him to shrink DH to human size. (The Doctor seemingly was hoping for a little more...)
Still, its a nice nod in Spacewarp's bio to obscure muktifandom canon
Posted by Kurona on April 27th, 2017 @ 9:34pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 9:46pm CDT
The reason the author picked the 9th Doctor is, simply, because that's the author's favorite Doctor.Flashwave wrote:Authorial intent though it may be, was it 9 or 10 that ended up shrinking Death's Head?
*goes to Wiki to look*
EDIT: Neither. Death's Head encounterz Doctor #7 in The CrossRoads of Time who uses a TCE on him to shrink DH to human size. (The Doctor seemingly was hoping for a little more...)
Still, its a nice nod in Spacewarp's bio to obscure muktifandom canon
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 27th, 2017 @ 10:17pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The reason the author picked the 9th Doctor is, simply, because that's the author's favorite Doctor.Flashwave wrote:Authorial intent though it may be, was it 9 or 10 that ended up shrinking Death's Head?
*goes to Wiki to look*
EDIT: Neither. Death's Head encounterz Doctor #7 in The CrossRoads of Time who uses a TCE on him to shrink DH to human size. (The Doctor seemingly was hoping for a little more...)
Still, its a nice nod in Spacewarp's bio to obscure muktifandom canon
I'm very fond of the 10th and 11th myself
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2017 @ 11:10pm CDT
Never really got into Doctor Who, myself, but I'm aware of Tennant's popularity as the Tenth, and recognize his talents in the stuff I have seen him in.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The reason the author picked the 9th Doctor is, simply, because that's the author's favorite Doctor.Flashwave wrote:Authorial intent though it may be, was it 9 or 10 that ended up shrinking Death's Head?
*goes to Wiki to look*
EDIT: Neither. Death's Head encounterz Doctor #7 in The CrossRoads of Time who uses a TCE on him to shrink DH to human size. (The Doctor seemingly was hoping for a little more...)
Still, its a nice nod in Spacewarp's bio to obscure muktifandom canon
I'm very fond of the 10th and 11th myself
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 28th, 2017 @ 1:36am CDT
Posted by leokearon on April 28th, 2017 @ 1:48am CDT
Posted by Zeedust on April 28th, 2017 @ 2:09am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That Optimus Prime has to be ultimate fandom in-joke produced, I love it! Megatron based on unrealised concepts (Spacewarp, the G2 Hero redeco) is good too. I can't place the weapons though...
Titans Return Voyager Optimus Prime and Sentinel Prime.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 28th, 2017 @ 2:20am CDT
Zeedust wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That Optimus Prime has to be ultimate fandom in-joke produced, I love it! Megatron based on unrealised concepts (Spacewarp, the G2 Hero redeco) is good too. I can't place the weapons though...
Titans Return Voyager Optimus Prime and Sentinel Prime.
Thanks!
Posted by Amelie on April 28th, 2017 @ 4:14am CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 28th, 2017 @ 4:40am CDT
Emerje
Posted by Big Grim on April 28th, 2017 @ 5:07am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 28th, 2017 @ 8:03am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The reason the author picked the 9th Doctor is, simply, because that's the author's favorite Doctor.Flashwave wrote:Authorial intent though it may be, was it 9 or 10 that ended up shrinking Death's Head?
*goes to Wiki to look*
EDIT: Neither. Death's Head encounterz Doctor #7 in The CrossRoads of Time who uses a TCE on him to shrink DH to human size. (The Doctor seemingly was hoping for a little more...)
Still, its a nice nod in Spacewarp's bio to obscure muktifandom canon
I'm very fond of the 10th and 11th myself
3rd, 5th, 11th and 12th for me.
The Prime looks kinda fun but I wouldn't want it as Prime but the colours particularly in vehicle mode appeal to me so much more than when it was Swerve.
Posted by mazingaspidey on April 28th, 2017 @ 8:23am CDT
Amelie wrote:Very sad I couldn't get these. They're awesome. Looks like they're going to have to be a very expensive eBay purchase for myself this Christmas time...
I am actually thinking of selling my Megatron if you're interested PM me.
Posted by o.supreme on April 28th, 2017 @ 9:19am CDT
To me these look horrible, but If those that purchased them truly enjoy them, then more power to you. I never thought a new line based on Pretenders would ever happen or work, but it seems as if there is at least some basis for a possible resurgence.
I guess the positive way to look at it is...if POTP decides to re-introduce Pretenders, it will make some fans happy, and it will make my wallet happy also with less toys I would want to buy.
Posted by TF_JW on April 28th, 2017 @ 9:25am CDT
I'm not sure why the factory weren't also able to use the Fort/Grand sword & rifle. The Titans Return weapons that they found as replacements probably do look a little more appropriately "lethal" for a Megatron to wield though.
Here's how you can transform Megatron to fit into the shell and not rock back and forth:
https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857747983533846528
You can also just fold the legs up behind him G1 PMOP style if you find it too finicky to get the legs sandwiched in while in the yoga pose.
Posted by Powered Convoy on April 28th, 2017 @ 2:23pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:The colors on Spacewarp and the helm shape remind me of Skyshadow (Blackshadow) from Titans Return. I thought that it may have been the same character but upon further inspection, Spacewarp is a she. The one thing on her card I don't understand is how she can smirk with that battle mask on. (Well ok, maybe we just can't see it.)
Spacewarp is the small space shuttle figure and not the Pretender shell (if there was some confusion), I believe it has a face unlike the large Spacewarp (which I own).
Randy
Posted by Emerje on April 28th, 2017 @ 5:30pm CDT
That aside, it's a great set. My Prime does have slightly loose legs and the shell has trouble holding the weapons right thanks to his big thumbs being in the way. Hi-Q doesn't really plug into the shell well, he just falls right out. I do find Prime easier to get into the shell if you lay him on the door (basically on his back) first as the fins can be a pain to line up if you stick him in the shell first. I've never owned the Megatron mold before, can't say I'm too crazy about it. The shoulders keep untabbing and it's hard to overlook the big fists on the tank. He does look good holding that giant sword, though. Pretty clever figuring out how to stuff Megatron inside the shell, but I find that gray piece to be useless, Spacewarp falls off of it pretty easily.
But yeah, these guys are going to look great on the shelf.
Emerje
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on April 28th, 2017 @ 6:06pm CDT
Got my set, love them a lot. I'm gonna have to print out that bio of Spacewarp and put it with the card. Thanks for that, sabrblade.
Posted by Zeedust on April 28th, 2017 @ 6:59pm CDT
Megatron falls into the category of "great idea, didn't quite work". Plus mine has some problems (Spacewarp's wings seem to be on crooked as the right one gets caught up on the body during transformation, and one of the pegs on the connector piece broke), so I might have to talk to someone, though I doubt there'll be options.
No prob. Glad I could help.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Thanks!
Posted by mazingaspidey on April 28th, 2017 @ 8:31pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on April 28th, 2017 @ 9:36pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 28th, 2017 @ 9:55pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on April 29th, 2017 @ 1:53pm CDT
Anyway...
Got my boxset in yesterday, but didnt get to it until last night.
As you have all read, or skipped, I really had no interest in this set. I have no love for Pretenders or need tiny versiins of the Leaders. I just wanted the minicons.
But I pulled the Gorilla out of the box, and I was genuinely excited about him. This was my first experience with the mold, so maybe it was newness, or because its something the Club made, I dont know. But a figure I was so sure I would put on Ebay suddenly was waiting for me to find a shelf to Display him on.
Megatron, alrhough less so, really went the same way. I have no ibterest in Pretneder Shells suddenly but for a one-off exclusive I am surprised how excited I actually am about these two. Prime and Megs will probably be permanently inside their shells, while Hi-Q and Spacewarp will be joinging their Voyager or Leader Class counterparts. Still, I offer my congratulations, FunPub, you won this guy over.
Unrelated topic: for some reason, when I try to type on Seibertron with my phone, the text lags, types all at once, and then the next key I type erases everything that was written by the lag. Seibertron is the only site that is foing this and it does it all the time. I actuzlly wrote this in a Note app and copied it in. Could be my phone, but its seriously annoying.
Posted by Zeedust on April 29th, 2017 @ 10:11pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:But a figure I was so sure I would put on Ebay suddenly was waiting for me to find a shelf to Display him on.
I know how that goes. That's how I felt about Ramjet. Dunno why I opened him, but glad I did.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 29th, 2017 @ 10:24pm CDT
Conversely, I do not have this problem with the hexagonal holes on the backpack of my Oilmaster's Pretender shell.
Posted by mazingaspidey on April 29th, 2017 @ 10:29pm CDT
Posted by joevill on April 30th, 2017 @ 11:41pm CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on May 1st, 2017 @ 1:04pm CDT
I just don't have much of a need or want for Prime in this form. The referential nature of the design doesn't really further any of the collections I have and in a way, makes Oil Master less unique as a figure.
Megatron is a curiousity. I like most all of the design, but I really dislike the contortion required to get him in the shell. I understand the reasons it's the way it is, but still. :/
Posted by mazingaspidey on May 1st, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on May 1st, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on May 1st, 2017 @ 3:06pm CDT
How long will it take this time? --I'm sure most fans that pre-ordered these wanted both, but I feel sorry for any who only wanted one of them. the time/effort to be charged for both, then to sell the other *hoping* to get your money back is such a pain.
I think the *real* screwjob will come for anyone who has pre-ordered both Counterpunch & Toxitron...think you're going to get that 7th *bonus* figure without additional cost?...Think again.
Posted by mazingaspidey on May 1st, 2017 @ 4:00pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:So, this answers one question, but raises another. We now know it'll be Toxitron and Counterpunch in the last box. Now the new question is, who's the final bonus figure?
I didn't get the last two issues of the fan comic, but there's not really any indication that I can tell, other than it's a "head not used in the U.S." That's pretty specific though. We can rule out the new molds used for Takara's Computron and Bruticus, since why would they advertise a new head and not a new mold? I think that leaves us with either the seeker head from UW Grand Galvatron, or Thrust from the same set. I'd imagine we won't get Starscream out of the set, but any number of other seekers are likely.
Posted by Zeedust on May 1st, 2017 @ 7:47pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:I've decided to end up selling off Prime and keep Megatron.
I just don't have much of a need or want for Prime in this form. The referential nature of the design doesn't really further any of the collections I have and in a way, makes Oil Master less unique as a figure.
I never got my hands on Oilmaster, so for me the situation is the reverse, and to me, Pretender Optimus is new, unique, and impressive.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 1st, 2017 @ 9:20pm CDT
mazingaspidey wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:So, this answers one question, but raises another. We now know it'll be Toxitron and Counterpunch in the last box. Now the new question is, who's the final bonus figure?
I didn't get the last two issues of the fan comic, but there's not really any indication that I can tell, other than it's a "head not used in the U.S." That's pretty specific though. We can rule out the new molds used for Takara's Computron and Bruticus, since why would they advertise a new head and not a new mold? I think that leaves us with either the seeker head from UW Grand Galvatron, or Thrust from the same set. I'd imagine we won't get Starscream out of the set, but any number of other seekers are likely.
Don't forget the statement could include unrevealed or unused heads, including:
- "Brawl" or "Ironclad" for Rook
- "Hoist" for the Trailbreaker addons of Offroad.