Reviews and US Sightings of Transformers Cyberverse Roll N Change Optimus Prime and Bumblebee
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TF fan Chico reached out to us to let us know that they found the Transformers Cyberverse Adventures Dinobots Unite Roll and Change Bumblebee at a Walmart in California for $49.67. While they only found Bumblebee, the toy's wavemate is Optimus Prime. These are both big toys that have an auto converting gimmick. Chuckdawg has a video review of the Optimus figure below. and I made a review of the Bumblebee figure, which I really did not like (would not recommend to parents for their kids).
chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Cyberverse line has always given us new and inventive ways to transform and play with our Transformers, the Roll and Change line is no different. Optimus Prime features lights and sounds as well as some snap-on Energon blue body armor. The included sword is a great weapon but is also used as a lock to the changing gimmick. While the price might be a bit high for most, the toy is a solid, beefy, fun figure.
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Posted by william-james88 on August 12th, 2021 @ 2:10pm CDT
Enjoy!
Posted by william-james88 on August 12th, 2021 @ 9:44pm CDT
If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.
This sighting was originally posted here.
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2021 @ 9:44am CDT
If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2021 @ 10:09am CDT
I like that Energon vibes from Grimswoop.
Posted by TulioDude on August 13th, 2021 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by First-Aid on August 13th, 2021 @ 2:08pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2021 @ 2:36pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:I think the TF:Energon combiners had better appearance and articulation. This just seems rushed and gimmicky.
I have many Energon combiners and they CANNOT be compared to the Cyberverse duocons. First, the Energon ones were deluxes. And those deluxes were BIG. The Cyberverse are barely legends scale and they have an automorph gimmick. That design is from years ago in the RiD line. There is a gimmick, but there's no "rush" here. Well, unless you want fast gameplay.
So, apples and oranges, really.
Still, one thing you can compare both to are their weird proportions and the fact that most bots are silly looking. Especially in combined mode. Like, really. Don't tell me that this Swoop/Grimlock combined mode look "good":
It also can't pose at all due to the top-heaviness.
Posted by First-Aid on August 13th, 2021 @ 2:46pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:First-Aid wrote:I think the TF:Energon combiners had better appearance and articulation. This just seems rushed and gimmicky.
I have many Energon combiners and they CANNOT be compared to the Cyberverse duocons. First, the Energon ones were deluxes. And those deluxes were BIG. The Cyberverse are barely legends scale and they have an automorph gimmick. That design is from years ago in the RiD line. There is a gimmick, but there's no "rush" here. Well, unless you want fast gameplay.
So, apples and oranges, really.
Still, one thing you can compare both to are their weird proportions and the fact that most bots are silly looking. Especially in combined mode. Like, really. Don't tell me that this Swoop/Grimlock combined mode look "good":
It also can't pose at all due to the top-heaviness.
That is the exception, not the rule. I meant in general for that line. Ironhide+Jetfire. Rodimus+Prowl. Outside of that Dinobot combiner, all the others in that line are far higher in quality and poseability than these are.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2021 @ 3:17pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Outside of that Dinobot combiner, all the others in that line are far higher in quality and poseability than these are.
Once again, I have to point out that it's an unfair comparison. My initial comment was about those Cyberverse thing to be "in the spirit" of the old Energon combiners. Not "exactly like them".
You point out "poseability" and "quality". "Quality" make no sense because they are pretty solid in hand and the gimmicks work perfectly. Nothing break here. As for posing, you cannot compare these at all because they are not in the same category. If the individual bots of those Cyberverse duocon teams were the same size and the same price as deluxe figures each, then maybe. But here, it's like comparing regular WFC deluxes with the 1 steps Cyberverses.
What's next, comparing oranges to bowling balls?
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2021 @ 3:30pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:That is the exception, not the rule. I meant in general for that line. Ironhide+Jetfire. Rodimus+Prowl. Outside of that Dinobot combiner, all the others in that line are far higher in quality and poseability than these are.
I hate most of the autobot deluxes from Energon. That Hot Shot is one of the worst toys of all time. I preffer this cyberverse Megatron/Slug over him for sure.
Anyways, these Cyberverse toys are more about the combined gimmick and not the individual modes (which I admit, are not good). It was the inverse with the Energon deluxes which don't even have a combiner head.
Also, them being simpler in articulation and design means that a younger audience can appreciate these, despite what it says on the box. While the Energon figures would be too complex (possibly) for 3-4 year olds.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 13th, 2021 @ 5:31pm CDT
That's because they weren't true "Combiners" per se, but were instead a new take on "Powerlinxing", in which one Autobot augmented the other instead of it being a Mini-Con who augmented the Autobot in question. It's like when Optimus Powerlinxed with Jetfire and/or Overload, who augmented Optimus's super mode instead of making a new combined identity. The Energon gimmick was basically "Every Autobot gets a Super Mode with help from someone or something else".william-james88 wrote:It was the inverse with the Energon deluxes which don't even have a combiner head.
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2021 @ 9:16pm CDT
So much bigger than legends size and less than a head shorter than deluxe size.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 14th, 2021 @ 7:47am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Just to guve an idea of the size of these toys, they are 1 step size, exactly.
So much bigger than legends size and less than a head shorter than deluxe size.
So they are not the same size as the previous batch, who were just a re-release and repaints of the RiD Crash Combiners?
Nice for the size increase, but unfortunate for the cross-compatibility.
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2021 @ 11:17am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Just to guve an idea of the size of these toys, they are 1 step size, exactly.
So much bigger than legends size and less than a head shorter than deluxe size.
So they are not the same size as the previous batch, who were just a re-release and repaints of the RiD Crash Combiners?
Nice for the size increase, but unfortunate for the cross-compatibility.
That's ok, they are releasing as many sets of these new ones so they have their own compatibility.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 16th, 2021 @ 7:31pm CDT
Also, Deluxe Slug was revealed today, and dang does he look great! He is both original and a great callback. He made himself all brand new, and I love it. His aesthetic rocks!
Between Ultimate Grimlock, deluxe Slug, and ultra Sludge, we are shaping up to have some great Dinobots from this line
Posted by william-james88 on August 16th, 2021 @ 10:59pm CDT
Since there is no BAF component, this Slag comes with quite the arsenal, including a long cannon and an axe that can be mounted atop the Triceratops mode.
For those wondering, there is a Snarl that will also be coming to the deluxe line and a bigger Sludge figure released in the Ultra class.
The review is from Prime vs Prime.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 16th, 2021 @ 11:02pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Gellar v.2 on August 16th, 2021 @ 11:45pm CDT
Posted by Nexus Knight on August 16th, 2021 @ 11:57pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 17th, 2021 @ 5:28am CDT
Posted by Cheetron on August 17th, 2021 @ 5:41am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2021 @ 7:04am CDT
Cheetron wrote:Im kind of on the fence. I want him to be cool, to be perfect..Especially with not having seen a single new transformer in months....
He won't be perfect, he doesn't have a bicep swivel.
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2021 @ 7:07am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on August 17th, 2021 @ 7:41am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 17th, 2021 @ 7:48am CDT
But I'm done collecting G1-esque Grimlocks and other dinos. The Studio series is their last hurrah for me.
Posted by Nexus Knight on August 17th, 2021 @ 12:39pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:He is G1 enough, while having a more modern design.
Honestly, if they have to keep releasing the same characters, I'd prefer this. I like the idea of modernizing existing designs, allowing the brand to grow and do new things while still banking on nostalgia.
Posted by Cheetron on August 17th, 2021 @ 12:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cheetron wrote:Im kind of on the fence. I want him to be cool, to be perfect..Especially with not having seen a single new transformer in months....
He won't be perfect, he doesn't have a bicep swivel.
Well then, guess he would still be better than anything on these constantly empty shelves I've seen within 100 miles for months
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2021 @ 4:13pm CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:He is G1 enough, while having a more modern design.
Honestly, if they have to keep releasing the same characters, I'd prefer this. I like the idea of modernizing existing designs, allowing the brand to grow and do new things while still banking on nostalgia.
That's what the Cyberverse designs and show are all about.
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2021 @ 4:29pm CDT
Here is a similar toy in concept from Playskool
Posted by PushYouDown on August 17th, 2021 @ 4:30pm CDT
I think he looks good in both modes...where SS86 is kind of boring to me.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 17th, 2021 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by Mistaken_Table on August 17th, 2021 @ 4:54pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 17th, 2021 @ 4:57pm CDT
I may not buy him at full price, but I'll keep an eye open for a sale.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on August 17th, 2021 @ 5:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Due to a lack of reveals, the Cyberverse line has been full of surprises lately with toys that look great and others that are really lacklustre. This news steers more towards the later than the former, sadly.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 17th, 2021 @ 5:07pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 17th, 2021 @ 5:09pm CDT
For me, it's the "Go Go Power Rangers" bit that's bothering me. It's a Wild Force toy, so it oughta say "Guardians of the Earth, United we Roar!"ZeroWolf wrote:Well that really wasn't what I was expecting! I don't mind it though, my eyebrow twitches more looking at the box for the power rangers toy, seeing The wildforce red ranger, green Dino charge Ranger, blue and yellow dino thunder rangers fighting Rita Repulsa
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2021 @ 7:45pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well that really wasn't what I was expecting! I don't mind it though, my eyebrow twitches more looking at the box for the power rangers toy, seeing The wildforce red ranger, green Dino charge Ranger, blue and yellow dino thunder rangers fighting Rita Repulsa
I didn't know you knew your Power Ranger teams ZeroWolf, very cool.
Also, the reactions to this toy here and on facebook are far more favourable than I thought. Seems people are finally getting the idea that this is the kids line.
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on August 17th, 2021 @ 8:04pm CDT
As for this Volcanicus.... It might be ok for kids but don't try to put it next to POTP Volcanicus lol.
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2021 @ 8:39pm CDT
Still, so odd that they would design something feasible for toy form and not make it.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 17th, 2021 @ 10:18pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:He is G1 enough, while having a more modern design.
Honestly, if they have to keep releasing the same characters, I'd prefer this. I like the idea of modernizing existing designs, allowing the brand to grow and do new things while still banking on nostalgia.
That's what the Cyberverse designs and show are all about.
Wasn't that the original goal of the Classics line? Modernizing old characters and designs?
If the new trilogy stuff didn't exist I'd have happily added some Cyberverse toys into my collection.
Posted by Dr. Gellar v.2 on August 17th, 2021 @ 10:21pm CDT
I didn't expect a whole lot when it was said there would be a Volcanicus in Cyberverse. Figured this would be something along the lines of RID Galvatronus, Menasor, and Ultra Bee (or whatever it is called)...which would not have been terrible. Certainly not this.
"Loooook....me Volcanicus now have Sky Lynx-mode!!" (said in G1 Grimlock's voice)
Cyberverse....so much untapped potential. Could'a been really cool...like Transformers Animated, with interesting designs and style, and (mostly) really good toys. Instead, Cyberverse has interesting designs and style, with more or less garbage toys (there are a few exceptions I'm sure).
Now....if they did something like this for Predaking, that could be pretty neat (if done right). Gestalt-mode would be G1 Predaking, while dragon-mode could be Transformers Prime Predaking, or even a tribute to Dragon Beast (what I believe the G1 Predacons (or rather...Anibots) were originally meant to form).
Posted by Ultra Markus on August 17th, 2021 @ 10:44pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 17th, 2021 @ 11:05pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:this looks like skylinx and grimlocks lovechild
(photos from Mr Skram in the Combiner Wars forum)
I like it, I've always thought combiners should be able to combine in any number of ways, doesn't always have to be a big bot. Sure, it'd be nice if it could actually combine, but I've already got two of *whatever the plural of Volcanicus is* I wont miss not getting a third.
Emerje
Posted by Nexus Knight on August 17th, 2021 @ 11:45pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:He is G1 enough, while having a more modern design.
Honestly, if they have to keep releasing the same characters, I'd prefer this. I like the idea of modernizing existing designs, allowing the brand to grow and do new things while still banking on nostalgia.
That's what the Cyberverse designs and show are all about.
And thus why I love Cyberverse, tho I haven't bought any of the toys.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 18th, 2021 @ 1:15am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 18th, 2021 @ 2:29am CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Well that really wasn't what I was expecting! I don't mind it though, my eyebrow twitches more looking at the box for the power rangers toy, seeing The wildforce red ranger, green Dino charge Ranger, blue and yellow dino thunder rangers fighting Rita Repulsa
I didn't know you knew your Power Ranger teams ZeroWolf, very cool.
Also, the reactions to this toy here and on facebook are far more favourable than I thought. Seems people are finally getting the idea that this is the kids line.
Power rangers became a big part of my childhood, and I was able to revisit it when my oldest got into it.
I'm glad the reaction to this has been good, kids will love this, so would I
Posted by william-james88 on August 18th, 2021 @ 6:39am CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:william-james88 wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:He is G1 enough, while having a more modern design.
Honestly, if they have to keep releasing the same characters, I'd prefer this. I like the idea of modernizing existing designs, allowing the brand to grow and do new things while still banking on nostalgia.
That's what the Cyberverse designs and show are all about.
And thus why I love Cyberverse, tho I haven't bought any of the toys.
That's ok, they are on the same level as Rescue bots or slightly higher, so they wouldn't really be enjoyed by us much. The deluxes are similar to deluxes in other lines though and I do wish we had an older kids toy option for many of these great looking designs, like this volcanicus.
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 18th, 2021 @ 11:32am CDT
Liking the design and the beast mode.
Posted by william-james88 on August 18th, 2021 @ 3:29pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:He is G1 enough, while having a more modern design.
Honestly, if they have to keep releasing the same characters, I'd prefer this. I like the idea of modernizing existing designs, allowing the brand to grow and do new things while still banking on nostalgia.
That's what the Cyberverse designs and show are all about.
Wasn't that the original goal of the Classics line? Modernizing old characters and designs?
Yup it was. Hasbro took that idea to heart with the evergreen designs and built more new designs based on that modernized G1 aesthetic for the Cyberverse show. What I find cool is they went beyond G1 with that aesthetic and brought in elements from Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Animated, Bayverse, and Neo G1 (ie Windblade) all in a new unified design that is seen in both a show and toyline.
Posted by First-Aid on August 18th, 2021 @ 4:17pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:He is G1 enough, while having a more modern design.
Honestly, if they have to keep releasing the same characters, I'd prefer this. I like the idea of modernizing existing designs, allowing the brand to grow and do new things while still banking on nostalgia.
That's what the Cyberverse designs and show are all about.
Wasn't that the original goal of the Classics line? Modernizing old characters and designs?
If the new trilogy stuff didn't exist I'd have happily added some Cyberverse toys into my collection.
THis.
It's redundancy. A second, all-different line would probably result in increased sales. I wonder how many Cyberverse sales were lost to WFC and vice versa for this exact reason...