Robots in Disguise Minicon 4 Packs Found at Burlington

Too bad I don't have one near me. I want undertone to put with RiD Ratchet. Also the spines on his sphere mode look neat.

Here's a thing....seeing as with at least some of these figs is basically two things connected together to form one bigger thing in Combiner Force....do you think that we'll ever get Overlord? now i know the obvious answer from you guys will be NO! coz we're getting a Titans Return one, but we have had a few characters that are in both franchises..Bumblebee, Optimus & Soundwave to name but a few(granted not the same Bee, Optimus & Soundwave....but at least by name)

Here's what I think: https://twitter.com/Scotty__P/status/825539410460549120

The weak T-Rex alt mode on it is exhibit B. Like that's the mode that got sacrificed for the other functions.

ScottyP wrote:Here's what I think: https://twitter.com/Scotty__P/status/825539410460549120

The weak T-Rex alt mode on it is exhibit B. Like that's the mode that got sacrificed for the other functions.

Would you mind taking a few other pics please? We could make a new post out of that. And I dont think any of us have seen the Trex mode yet, at least not from in hadn images. When you have a moment.

ScottyP wrote:Here's what I think: https://twitter.com/Scotty__P/status/825539410460549120

The weak T-Rex alt mode on it is exhibit B. Like that's the mode that got sacrificed for the other functions.

When I saw this, I immediately agreed. It could be like a Prime Abominus affair where the toys combine but they aren't mentioned to until much later, and considering how big Grimlock would be to be to be the entire bottom half of the combiner, this would make sense.

And yeah, we've only seen this thing in packaging. We have yet to see it out of the packaging, so pics are welcome!

Hmmm.....interesting but he is supposed to form the legs of Bumblecron(btw who thinks up these names )

Stuartmaximus wrote:Hmmm.....interesting but he is supposed to form the legs of Bumblecron(btw who thinks up these names )

According to the image we got of the Bee combiner, yes, he's the entire bottom half of the combiner.

And Bumblecron was Scotty's name for the combiner. we have no official name yet

Edit: here http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... sed/37156/

Found this today at a Target:





Have weaponizers been found in US retail yet?
I also found some TR Soundwavea, but I'm pretty sure those were found in the US already.

I believe those came out last year.

DestronMirage22 wrote:Found this today at a Target:

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Have weaponizers been found in US retail yet?
I also found some TR Soundwavea, but I'm pretty sure those were found in the US already.

Btw i've got that Optimus weaponizer...it's pretty cool, the Grimlock one is nice too

Yes, all 6 were released in the US. I have Sideswipe and Grimlock and love both of them. Bee looked too plain and I didn't really want Prime due to his truck mode, and the Strongarm/white Sideswipe didn't appeal to me either. But they were still fantastic little sets

I'm on the fence with those, actually, but only because I like the add-on armor/weapons concept I'm especially eyeing Grimlock, Strongarm and both Sideswipes because of their elemental alignments, (Fire, water, wind & lightning), but Prime and Bumblebee... not so much

Good little scouts - only lacking for a bit of paint really

I just threw out Bumblecron as the name because of Bumblecron, one of the ancient Transformers memes:


And I appreciate the picture requests but likely do not have the time this week. Actually, a good way to make me not do several pics of something is to ask, makes it feel like a chore

...the heck is that thing...?!

At least if Ultra Bee needs that 3-step Grimlock, it will give me an excuse to buy my first ever 3-step

Sigma Magnus wrote:...the heck is that thing...?!

ScottyP wrote:Bumblecron, one of the ancient Transformers memes

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:now....whether like William James said that it's just random merch or already existing merch? is hard to determine from this pic.

I can tell you what it is, its die cast cars, thats what that company does. These arent from hasbro but instead from a licensed toy company that makes non transforming toys:





Those characters are non transforming figures.

Funnily enough....check this out
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/01/31/simb ... m=facebook

While we're on the subject of whether or not these RiD characters are supposed to be new characters or reimagined characters, can someone please explain to me what the deal with Kickback is? I'm pretty sure he died in the Beast Hunters comics, but now he's suddenly alive and well (and with a car mode, too).

Back on topic, that RiD Soundwave is gorgeous! I can't wait to get a hold of the guy. It blends my two favorite versions of Soundwave together rather well.

Also, any idea of a release date for Bludgeon? I ain't settling for Blastwave.

BombshellDaBug wrote:While we're on the subject of whether or not these RiD characters are supposed to be new characters or reimagined characters, can someone please explain to me what the deal with Kickback is? I'm pretty sure he died in the Beast Hunters comics, but now he's suddenly alive and well (and with a car mode, too).

Back on topic, that RiD Soundwave is gorgeous! I can't wait to get a hold of the guy. It blends my two favorite versions of Soundwave together rather well.

Also, any idea of a release date for Bludgeon? I ain't settling for Blastwave.

Best guess is that this is a totally different Kickback. Though it's also worth bearing in mind the 'aligned' continuity isn't very good at aligning.

BombshellDaBug wrote:While we're on the subject of whether or not these RiD characters are supposed to be new characters or reimagined characters, can someone please explain to me what the deal with Kickback is? I'm pretty sure he died in the Beast Hunters comics, but now he's suddenly alive and well (and with a car mode, too).

Not the same Kickback, just as Sideswipe and Grimlock are different individuals from the Sideswipe and Grimlock who fought in the war.

To anyone who has spotted the new 3-Steps aka "Hyper Flip Heroes": could anyone locate and post the product code? If it ends in "B0067Asst.", the name is a lie, it's still the same 3-Step Changer line.

I was in Sainsbury's yesterday and spotted something very strange - they had a case they'd just put out of RID Combiner Force Warriors - but I noticed something odd - the new Characters (including white Drift) have new item code numbers on the barcode - while the re-packs like Grimlock & Strongarm - even though they are in the exact same packaging do not - they have the old code.

So there is two distinct Barcode numbers for items in the same case - I found that very weird for a European released item.

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I wasn't able to find the rumoured Crash Combiners for £8.00 unfortunately in Wilko - they didn't have any. I'd be very happy to pay that price for them - not so much £16.99

RAR wrote:I was in Sainsbury's yesterday and spotted something very strange - they had a case they'd just put out of RID Combiner Force Warriors - but I noticed something odd - the new Characters (including white Drift) have new item code numbers on the barcode - while the re-packs like Grimlock & Strongarm - even though they are in the exact same packaging do not - they have the old code.

So there is two distinct Barcode numbers for items in the same case - I found that very weird for a European released item.

Not as weird as you may think. Despite being advertised as "new product" with a new subline header, the re-releases are still the same product as before and identified as such via barcode, simply for ease of logistics: no double items. Even Hasbro does that by retaining product ID's for re-releases in different sublines, as long as the basic assortment remains the same. Compare the codes above/below the bar code between first release Legion Optimus Prime, and the Combiner Force one. They should match.

Question for you guys, is RID Warrior Bumblebee better than Deluxe Classics Bumblebee?

william-james88 wrote:Question for you guys, is RID Warrior Bumblebee better than Deluxe Classics Bumblebee?

As a representative of Bumblebee in general?

POSSIBLY!!

I really like him. He's fun to toss around, satisfying to transform, my only problem is his head has popped off a few times and it looks like the plastic around the back of his neck is stressed

I have both, and it's a toss up. Classics Bee is much more solid to me and less kibbly, but RiD Bee looks so much better, being more streamlined and the aesthetic is one I like more than the classics. Plus RiD Bee has the better car mode IMO

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I have both, and it's a toss up. Classics Bee is much more solid to me and less kibbly, but RiD Bee looks so much better, being more streamlined and the aesthetic is one I like more than the classics. Plus RiD Bee has the better car mode IMO

I feel they are the same kibble or RiD is LESS. I'm crazy. I'm also getting used to 'Bee being a muscle car....what the heck..

itscramtastic wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I have both, and it's a toss up. Classics Bee is much more solid to me and less kibbly, but RiD Bee looks so much better, being more streamlined and the aesthetic is one I like more than the classics. Plus RiD Bee has the better car mode IMO

I feel they are the same kibble or RiD is LESS. I'm crazy. I'm also getting used to 'Bee being a muscle car....what the heck..

I mean, the back is alright, though I wish the wings were a bit more prominent compared to the trunk lid, and then the whole roof being on the back of the legs can be a bit of a pain sometimes, at least to me

I can see you both have the similar internal struggle as me. I am working on the top 5 list for Bee. Its not hard, except for when it comes to those 2. They have the same pro/con balance even though they are such different toys. And I feel like saying one is better than the other really doesnt do jutice to the other. I guess I will keep both tied for 4th place.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I have both, and it's a toss up. Classics Bee is much more solid to me and less kibbly, but RiD Bee looks so much better, being more streamlined and the aesthetic is one I like more than the classics. Plus RiD Bee has the better car mode IMO

I feel they are the same kibble or RiD is LESS. I'm crazy. I'm also getting used to 'Bee being a muscle car....what the heck..

I mean, the back is alright, though I wish the wings were a bit more prominent compared to the trunk lid, and then the whole roof being on the back of the legs can be a bit of a pain sometimes, at least to me

I can see you both have the similar internal struggle as me. I am working on the top 5 list for Bee. Its not hard, except for when it comes to those 2. They have the same pro/con balance even though they are such different toys. And I feel like saying one is better than the other really doesnt do jutice to the other. I guess I will keep both tied for 4th place.

Ah the roof calf. I forgot about that, as the figure is just so awesome. Let's put it this way, I have Hasbro MP21, Takara MP21G, and RiD warrior Bumblebee out to have fun with. The others are in the bin, awaiting their fates!!

EDIT: And AoE deluxe Bumblebee, and the legend class he came with..and G2 Bumblebee..ok THAT'S all of them out for play.

Well problem solved, here is what will be frontpaged some day down the line:

4. TIE between Classics Bumblebee and Robots in Disguise Bumblebee

While these are very different toys, they end up having the ame amount of Pros and Cons each meaning that making any of them surpass the other a disservice the other. In the end, both are as good, here is a breakdown from two of our own members:

D-Max: I have both, and it's a toss up. Classics Bee is much more solid to me and less kibbly, but RiD Bee looks so much better, being more streamlined and the aesthetic is one I like more than the Classics. Plus RiD Bee has the better car mode IMO. But there's the kibble. The back is alright, though I wish the wings were a bit more prominent compared to the trunk lid, and then the whole roof being on the back of the legs can be a bit of a pain sometimes, at least to me

Itscramtastic: I really like RiD Bumblebee. He's fun to toss around, satisfying to transform, my only problem is his head has popped off a few times and it looks like the plastic around the back of his neck is stressed. I feel they have the same kibble problem or RiD has it LESS. Sure, there is the roof calf but I forgot about that, as the figure is just so awesome. I'm also getting used to 'Bee being a muscle car....what the heck. Let's put it this way, I have Hasbro MP21, Takara MP21G, and RiD warrior Bumblebee out to have fun with. The others are in the bin, awaiting their fates!!

william-james88 wrote:Well problem solved, here is what will be frontpaged some day down the line:

4. TIE between Classics Bumblebee and Robots in Disguise Bumblebee

While these are very different toys, they end up having the ame amount of Pros and Cons each meaning that making any of them surpass the other a disservice the other. In the end, both are as good, here is a breakdown from two of our own members:

D-Max: I have both, and it's a toss up. Classics Bee is much more solid to me and less kibbly, but RiD Bee looks so much better, being more streamlined and the aesthetic is one I like more than the Classics. Plus RiD Bee has the better car mode IMO. But there's the kibble. The back is alright, though I wish the wings were a bit more prominent compared to the trunk lid, and then the whole roof being on the back of the legs can be a bit of a pain sometimes, at least to me

Itscramtastic: I really like RiD Bumblebee. He's fun to toss around, satisfying to transform, my only problem is his head has popped off a few times and it looks like the plastic around the back of his neck is stressed. I feel they have the same kibble problem or RiD has it LESS. Sure, there is the roof calf but I forgot about that, as the figure is just so awesome. I'm also getting used to 'Bee being a muscle car....what the heck. Let's put it this way, I have Hasbro MP21, Takara MP21G, and RiD warrior Bumblebee out to have fun with. The others are in the bin, awaiting their fates!!

You sneaky quoter!!!

itscramtastic wrote:You sneaky quoter!!!

Thanks, I am proud of it too. It will add a lot of authenticity to the lists

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:You sneaky quoter!!!

Thanks, I am proud of it too. It will add a lot of authenticity to the lists

I was also SUPER late to RiD, and I've already sold ONE version of Classics Bumblebee (the RTS version, which was the only one I had). I wouldn't sell RiD Bumblebee though. He's special.

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:You sneaky quoter!!!

Thanks, I am proud of it too. It will add a lot of authenticity to the lists

I was also SUPER late to RiD, and I've already sold ONE version of Classics Bumblebee (the RTS version, which was the only one I had). I wouldn't sell RiD Bumblebee though. He's special.

Takara agrees with you, they are very proud of that toy.

Notice how there is technically no reason in the design for him to have to turn his waste during transformation. The same look could be achieved if he was face down like Sideswide, Strongarm and the others, and like his "cyberverse" version. But Takara wanted his back to face the floor instead while inc ar mode just so that you would have to twist the waste as part of the transformation, making it more dynamic. That means they were not just thinking of how to get from one mode to the next elegantly, but also about how our hands move while transforming it and what motions are more fun than others. So making his transformation both steamlined and dynamic. Its really cool.

Walmart finally dropped him down to a price I couldn't resist.

OK... either Hasbro goofed with something, or something is really off.

Remember how the two Warrior Starscream releases, Clash and Combiner Force are completely identical? I just got back from window shopping at Toys 'R Us, and checked the codes on the boxes of both:

Clash: B7958/B7935Asst.
Combiner Force: C0929/B0070Asst.

Two codes for the same toy? I guess it's all because of the different assortment code, but should there at least be some difference? I should have gotten the Combiner one and checked the code stamped on it... Or maybe I'm overthinking this.

Yes I raised this issue before. the same is true in the UK too.
Two Starscreams two different packaging designs and two prices but the exact same toy. where as the New packaging on the Warriors is just a cosmetic change (like it also was with the previous Minicon Weaponiser packets) - the difference there though was that the new items didn't have a new bar code and yet they do have a new bar code this time.

I just think it would make more sense to change them all or non and not part of a case.

Perhaps I need to double check the barcode both the new and reissued/repacked 1 step changers too now. I never thought to check the numbers on the repacked ones I already had - the new characters are different number to last year's though.

RAR, I think we're looking at two different things. You're looking at bar code number, while I look at the Hasbro product codes directly above or below them. Both serve the same purpose for identifying product, but the former is more for store logistics, and the latter for Hasbro. I did notice that "Transformers" bar code numbers, at least in the US, always start with "30509" regardless of line: even Combiner Force Starscream and Legion Springload started with that number.

The Warrior RiD Bumblebee mold is fantastic. 9 versions is not enough.

I put the weapons from the Weaponizer Dragonus (Thanks WilliamJames88!) on the Shining Dragonus and it turned out really neato:

ScottyP wrote:

And I am now blind.

ScottyP wrote:The Warrior RiD Bumblebee mold is fantastic. 9 versions is not enough.

I put the weapons from the Weaponizer Dragonus (Thanks WilliamJames88!) on the Shining Dragonus and it turned out really neato:

Looks like a jewel! And glad to know they arrived. That was quick!

Cobotron wrote:I dunno, I think Dragonus makes a great familiar.

This post came up when I was google searching Tricerashot for some reason. I never saw it before, but you should know that this picture is excellent

Why thank you Mr. P. Thank you very much.

And I like your sparkly magic dragon.

william-james88 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:The Warrior RiD Bumblebee mold is fantastic. 9 versions is not enough.

I put the weapons from the Weaponizer Dragonus (Thanks WilliamJames88!) on the Shining Dragonus and it turned out really neato:

Looks like a jewel! And glad to know they arrived. That was quick!

Actually, he's a separate character called Dragonblaster. Works out as Dragonus is nominally a Decepticon. And it's uncanny how the yellow from two different releases work together so well.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:RAR, I think we're looking at two different things. You're looking at bar code number, while I look at the Hasbro product codes directly above or below them. Both serve the same purpose for identifying product, but the former is more for store logistics, and the latter for Hasbro. I did notice that "Transformers" bar code numbers, at least in the US, always start with "30509" regardless of line: even Combiner Force Starscream and Legion Springload started with that number.

We have Character cases sent out to some retailers they have stickers applied at the factory ontop of the normal barcode so they ring up by characters - typically this applies to online retailers who sell by character like the entertainer - sometime they put their own sticker on the outside instead that is nothing to do with Hasbro codes.

I've never checked if there is any relationship between the single character numbers on UK stock and the US numbers .. i'll have the check that out.

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Anyway all of the NEW Warrior class (new mould and new packaging) share a number.

All the old Warrior class (New packaging old product) share he same number.

So all 3 packaging variations of Grimlock have the same number.

But that same number is also the same number on Strongarm as well (or Optimus. Drift, Windblade whatever) basically just those repacks got the old generic deluxe barcode that applies to a lot of previous toys and just the new moulds (& white drift) get a new number.

So you pick up two warrior class combiner Force cards if it's Strongarm and Grimlock they have one number. if it's any of the other it's another number.

The assortment only barcodes are typical for most retailers (but not all) - the American way of having a unique number for each character is becoming a little more common.

But in some case they don't even have a proper way of identifying them like with the Minicon multi-packs.

I don't know about the item codes - if they changed them - as i've not actually checked if they did that one the last Grimlock release either (since Green coloured Warrior Grimlock is now out in 3 different kinds of packaging style now) I'd not be surprised if it's the same or different. Though VERY have put to listings up for the same toy depending on the packaging.

I'll be interested to see what TRU do when they get that stock as they must be scratching their head a bit about why they now have two identical Starscream's with different stock identities - and that applies as much in the US too.

I didn't think to look at Starscream's barcode so I didn't notice which code they gave him the normal Warrior code or the new code like White drift.

While the fandom is desperately searching for Titans Return preorders, the Robots in Disguise line has some to offer. Entertainment Earth just listed a preorder for the 11th wave of figures. This is the second wave from 2017 and it will include the hotly aniticpated figures like Soundwave and Blurr. Sicne the preorder is for the whole case, we can know who is included in this wave and who is shotpacked:

1x TRA RID WARRIOR GRIMLOCK
1x TRA RID WARRIOR SKYWARP
2x TRA RID WARRIOR WINDBLADE
2x TRA RID WARRIOR SOUNDWAVE
2x TRA RID WARRIOR BLURR

As you can see, the new molds are not shortpacked. And neither is Windblade who is a redeco with a new face mask.

These are to be released in March.

Woo hooooooooooooooo!!! Great news WJ!!

A thought's just occured to me - is it possible that RiD is making most of it's Decepticons Vehicles now because Titans Return has some beast Decepticons?