ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3

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Just hours before the worldwide release of Transformers Revenge of the Fallen hit the theatres, Transformers movie scribes Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman chatted with i09.com about certain robots being anatomically correct and returning for the 3rd film.

Although they couldn't remember the origins of Devastator's testicles. Orci thought that Bay had demanded "a big pair of testicles." But Kurtzman reminded him that it was actually co-writer Ehren Krueger's idea, when the three of them were holed up for a few months writing the script after the writers' strike. "The testicles are in the script," Kurtzman said. "Well, it's a construction machine, so you of course have wrecking balls. And Michael, immediately, of course, loved it."

The interview then goes on to cover the challenges the writers had to endure just to make the script for the second installment of the Transformers movie franchise and shut down rumors that they may not be returning for the third film. Check out the complete interview by clicking here.

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Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942161)
Posted by Peter Bilt on June 25th, 2009 @ 11:44am CDT

He definitely had Balls of Steel.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942166)
Posted by Mkall on June 25th, 2009 @ 11:52am CDT

Oddly enough, when I saw them I first thought "I wonder if Hasbro will give us a Wrecking Ball constructicon?"

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942172)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 25th, 2009 @ 11:59am CDT

So they're not signed for TF3? Good. I hope they won't write it.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942181)
Posted by Ultra Magnus on June 25th, 2009 @ 12:15pm CDT

There is really an Interview about Devastator's Robo-Jewels? Devastator HAS Robo-Jewels? What's going on here? I mean, really. What the <bleep> is really going on here?

#-o

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942186)
Posted by Phenotype on June 25th, 2009 @ 12:33pm CDT

I wouldn't have minded the "testicles" joke as much if it wasn't the THIRD testicles joke they did in the film.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942190)
Posted by Covenant on June 25th, 2009 @ 12:35pm CDT

Its sad the one use for Devastator that successfully hit me was 'comic relief' in that I didn't know about and wasn't expecting giant balls dangling, so I laughed. Sure, I shook my head and buried my face in my hand momentarily, but it started off as a laugh.

Rodimus Prime wrote:So they're not signed for TF3? Good. I hope they won't write it.

Me too. A third and final installment of this needs to be something epic with the fat & farts cut away, and I don't think they have it in them to pull that off. What the last film needs is a quality writer that gives a great pace and doesn't sacrifice precious time to meandering schooldays humor. Don't get me wrong, I laughed at plenty of things like the rest of the crowd, but that's not what the last flick needs to be at all. Problem is, whoever it may be to write, they gotta get past Bay's ironfist, and what he'd do with that ironfist on screen..

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942194)
Posted by skwerl on June 25th, 2009 @ 12:42pm CDT

I swear to god this is the tenth time this story has been in my RSS feed (and i only have this, TFlamb, io9, and Gizmodo that report on transformers). Can it go away now? they really dont say ANYTHING of interest. so Ehren made up the testiculator joke. did he make up the other five testicle joke/references too? does anyone actually care? really?

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942205)
Posted by kirbenvost on June 25th, 2009 @ 12:57pm CDT

I gotta say, this was one of the worst moments of the film. Really, they could have given the movie some humor without it being so low-brow. :roll:

I still chuckled a bit, but mainly groaned when they were dangling and clanging together... lame.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942215)
Posted by Ramune on June 25th, 2009 @ 1:11pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:So they're not signed for TF3? Good. I hope they won't write it.

I agree. I think I like their movies despite the scripts they write.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942231)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 25th, 2009 @ 1:28pm CDT

This movie could've been a LOT better without the excessive, unnecessary innuendo. I mean, sure the first movie have some potty humor, but this movie just went overboard.

This is just one of those rare occasions that proves that sometimes cleaner is better.

Remember, there is a difference between being funny and dirty.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942260)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on June 25th, 2009 @ 1:58pm CDT

I really hope they're not on for the 3rd one. Maybe if we get some real writers on board they'll have the "balls" to tell bay "your idea sucks we're not doing it" & we'll get a good movie. As for Devastators "balls of steel" i think it was unneeded. There was so much crude infantile humor in this movie it was retarded.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942271)
Posted by Wheeljack144 on June 25th, 2009 @ 2:09pm CDT

I'm sorry to say, but this actually represents the cleverest of the movie's bathroom-esque humor. It was so unnecessary at times.

Mr. Bay, keep making things explode. Subtle humor is what this movie needed, and it was in such short supply.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942290)
Posted by Mr. Autoboto on June 25th, 2009 @ 2:53pm CDT

Devastator balls, along with the dog and Wheelie humping moments, just nearly ruined the entire damn film for me. If those kind of scenes were left out, or at least minimalized, this movie could have been way better.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942296)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 25th, 2009 @ 3:04pm CDT

Mr. Autoboto wrote:Devastator balls, along with the dog and Wheelie humping moments, just nearly ruined the entire damn film for me. If those kind of scenes were left out, or at least minimalized, this movie could have been way better.

The balls were on-screen for less than 10 seconds, the dog humping less than 15 seconds.

You mean that in the 9,000 second movie, that those 25 seconds or so (0.27%) almost ruined it?

Are we exaggerating or being serious here?

(I could have done without them as well, but the other 8,975 estimated seconds out-weighed it for me.)

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942300)
Posted by Robinson on June 25th, 2009 @ 3:10pm CDT

you know in 2 years of being on this site and seeing new people come in all i hear is "seibertrons's got nuts" but the second devie get's some everyones in an uproar.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942303)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 25th, 2009 @ 3:13pm CDT

Robinson wrote:you know in 2 years of being on this site and seeing new people come in all i hear is "seibertrons's got nuts" but the second devie get's some everyones in an uproar.

Touche'

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942309)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on June 25th, 2009 @ 3:16pm CDT

Robinson wrote:you know in 2 years of being on this site and seeing new people come in all i hear is "seibertrons's got nuts" but the second devie get's some everyones in an uproar.

WIN!

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942312)
Posted by LiKwid on June 25th, 2009 @ 3:21pm CDT

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Robinson wrote:you know in 2 years of being on this site and seeing new people come in all i hear is "seibertrons's got nuts" but the second devie get's some everyones in an uproar.

WIN!

Devastator's "Decepticles" = Win

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942364)
Posted by Autobobby1 on June 25th, 2009 @ 4:10pm CDT

I'm glad they'll be gone. The epic action scenes are Bay's doing, not the innuendo and outright sexual content. Hopefully we'll get some writers that actually know how to handle a good sci-fi epic with giant robots.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942430)
Posted by TheSuperUngieReport on June 25th, 2009 @ 5:24pm CDT

When I went to go see this movie, there was like 5 six year olds there. This was way innapropriate for them, the balls made it worse. I did think it was a little funny

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942500)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 25th, 2009 @ 6:56pm CDT

Let's see, there was:

The dog on dog scene
Another dog on dog scene
close up of Simmons' butt as he yanks his pants off
Leo's pants dropping
Jetfire farting parachutes
Wheelie on Mikaela's leg
Mikaela on top of Leo
Said scene has him saying she's crushing his balls
Devastator's scrotum

Any others?

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942525)
Posted by Covenant on June 25th, 2009 @ 7:35pm CDT

TheSuperUngieReport wrote:When I went to go see this movie, there was like 5 six year olds there. This was way innapropriate for them, the balls made it worse. I did think it was a little funny

If a six year old boy doesn't know what balls are, I'd say there's trouble.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942562)
Posted by Orin_Thomas on June 25th, 2009 @ 8:59pm CDT

Did people who didn't like the writing in TF2 hate the writing in Star Trek? It was written by the same guys (Orci and Kurtzman) and I saw very few complaints about Star Trek's pacing or plot.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942566)
Posted by Robinson on June 25th, 2009 @ 9:06pm CDT

Orin_Thomas wrote:Did people who didn't like the writing in TF2 hate the writing in Star Trek? It was written by the same guys (Orci and Kurtzman) and I saw very few complaints about Star Trek's pacing or plot.

Thats why I posed this question.

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Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942568)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 25th, 2009 @ 9:07pm CDT

Orin_Thomas wrote:Did people who didn't like the writing in TF2 hate the writing in Star Trek? It was written by the same guys (Orci and Kurtzman) and I saw very few complaints about Star Trek's pacing or plot.

Star Trk did not have this much (if any at all) potty humor.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942633)
Posted by Roadbuster on June 25th, 2009 @ 10:33pm CDT

you know... I don't know what's sadder, the fact that people are not realising Bay did this on purpose to get a rise out of fanboys like the post "lubrication scene" did. Or the fact that this thread is mostly focused on a robot's "wrecking balls."

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942637)
Posted by Orin_Thomas on June 25th, 2009 @ 10:36pm CDT

Star Trek also wasn't aimed at pre-teen boys. In the cinema I was in with my son, the potty humor went off like a firecracker. So rather than lack of talent, I would suggest that it was targeting a very specific audience.

As I mentioned in the poll thread - my six year old has the attention span of a mayfly with ADHD and he came out of the movie raving about it - wanted to get every toy we don't already have. Favorite characters? Prime, Bumblebee, Skids and Mudflap. As much as I like a sophistocated Transformers story, the only place we will get that is in the pre-AHM comics.

I didn't think it was a great movie, but I'm also not the target audience. It was enjoyable and I'm glad I saw it because damn if Michael Bay didn't blow up a lot of stuff.

Besides, it would almost be impossible to make a bigger movie on earth than this one. Transformers 3 has to have Unicron because that is the only way that Michael Bay can make a bigger movie than Transformers II.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942664)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 25th, 2009 @ 11:03pm CDT

Orin_Thomas wrote:Besides, it would almost be impossible to make a bigger movie on earth than this one. Transformers 3 has to have Unicron because that is the only way that Michael Bay can make a bigger movie than Transformers II.

Not true there is one character that is far more powerful, far more larger, far more evil than Unicron. He was made quite recently, actually. He's the primary antagonist in the Alternity fiction and is the most evil character of all Transformers fiction.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942719)
Posted by Orin_Thomas on June 26th, 2009 @ 12:48am CDT

Hytherion is invisible! Kinda hard for Michale Bay to make an invisible villain more cinematically spectacular than a planet sized Transformer. Sure we are told that Hytherion is a bigger badass, but we haven't really seen any fiction to supports that. Given that Unicron destroys universes, the idea that hytherion is more badass reeks of hyperbole.

Compare the two hypothetical trailer scenes:

Unicron rips the moon in half.

Optimus Prime makes a speech about a dangerous invisible thing from the alternity dimension that is going to kick our butts.

Which do you think Michael Bay would go for?

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942731)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 26th, 2009 @ 1:02am CDT

The dog on dog scene - funny
Another dog on dog scene - funny
close up of Simmons' butt as he yanks his pants off - gross
Leo's pants dropping - it was necessary for him to tase himself, which was funny
Jetfire farting parachutes - dumb
Wheelie on Mikaela's leg - the worst
Mikaela on top of Leo - whatever
Said scene has him saying she's crushing his balls - so?
Devastator's scrotum - very dumb

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (942760)
Posted by astig on June 26th, 2009 @ 2:41am CDT

they probably added devastator to the rotf lineup just to make that testicle joke. #-o

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (943098)
Posted by Autobobby1 on June 26th, 2009 @ 3:01pm CDT

The dog on dog scene - pointless
Another dog on dog scene - even worse
Sam's dad slapping his mom on the butt - perverted and out of character
Sam's mom mentioning Sam wanting to "pop his cherry" - humiliating
Every scene with Alice - unbearable and totally out of place
close up of Simmons' butt as he yanks his pants off - unexpected, therefore a little bit funny
Leo's pants dropping - worth it for him to taze himself
Leo tazing himself - hilarious
Jetfire farting parachutes - kind of funny
Wheelie on Mikaela's leg - make it stop!
Mikaela on top of Leo - pointless
Said scene has him saying she's crushing his balls - also pointless
Devastator's scrotum - I chuckled, but I knew it was coming

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (943115)
Posted by Counterpunch on June 26th, 2009 @ 3:36pm CDT

You guys sure do talk about balls a lot.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (943186)
Posted by cybercat on June 26th, 2009 @ 5:55pm CDT

See, I lump all that testicular humor in with the mandatory midget joke and the upskirt Alice shot as Stuff That Guys Like and Women Don't Quite Get. (Seriously, what the hell is it with you guys and little people?!?)

What got funny to me wasn't all the nut-jokes, but the fact that there were so many--I was laughing less at the joke (because, other than John Turturro's most of them were pretty lame), than the fact that there was yet another testicle joke.

Freud would say that *someone* is overcompensating.

HK, not overcompensating.

Re: ROTF: Orci & Kurtzman talk "wrecking balls" & TF3 (943204)
Posted by LiKwid on June 26th, 2009 @ 6:09pm CDT

Any scene where Leo injured himself was great.. The movie could have done without him. Any other scene was just fine, balls and all...

The 2 theaters I have seen this movie in had a fair share of youngsters , but the movie is rated PG-13... Not pg-6... Parents should know to expect some "potty humor"