Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10
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Episode 9 Shadowstriker
Synopsis: Bumblebee revisits memories of his archnemesis Shadowstriker and learns there's more to being a hero than just knowing how to fight.
What you liked best about episode 9
I like how this show cements the fun premise that this show will be told out of order and that questions will be answered. We had seen Shadowstriker before for a very short time and she was acting like Frankenstein's monster, presumably with no reason given. And now we see why. I like that. Plus it's a good origin story to the rivalry between Bumblebee and his new nemesis. I also love whenever Shockwave is used properly and we see how important he was to the war effort here, being the mad scientist he is. There is also some great Transformers imagery here involving Optimus in a similar pose to the famous Wolverine cover by Mark Silvestri. - William-James88
I liked the fact that this episode gave depth to one of the completely new characters for the franchise, Shadow Striker. Up to now we didn't know a lot about her or why she looked the way she did. By shining the spotlight on her, we got to see her a lot better. -ZeroWolf
The episode, once again, is very serious and considerably darker than other episodes. The episode has a great overall mood and well-written story. This episode explains the story behind Shadow Striker, the bounty hunter lad. I don't want to get into spoilers, let’s just say, she's a bit traumatized, eh? There is a funny scene, where her Seeker guards' were having a conversation about nothing. Literally nothing. It's actually pretty funny. -notirishman
Fleshing out Shadowstriker the way they did. They kind of took a more original path with her, making her one of the best Decepticons who is ruthless and really good. And then they have the main character accidentally blow her up, and the end result is she is the core spark of her former self, but with a freakish appearance from the reconnected body parts of her subordinates, who can no longer physically do what she used to and must make do, and as make do in a very angry way. They made her scary, but with reason. Used to be good, but now struggling to make do and fueled by vengeance. They made her a good character, and this was basically her spotlight. -D-Maximal_Primal
What you liked least about episode 9
It was a tad bit confusing at times and I do not know how Windblade knows certain things if she is not part of those memories we are seeing. - William-James88
Honestly, they could have just left out the wrap around with Windblade sparring with Bee. The time could be used better to add to Shadow Striker's parts. -ZeroWolf
When Shadow Striker blames Bumblebee for her life, he seems very angry at Shadow Striker trying to shoot him, despite she clearly losing a lot more? Also, how exactly did Shadow Striker get Optimus? -notirishman
I would not have minded if Shadowstriker looked a little more Frankenstein like. I feel she could have done with a little bit more in the patchwork department, especially since she's a car and her subordinates were seeker jets (that we saw). This could have provided some fun moments too, if she had jets in her boots from the other's parts and she could jump really high or even fly. -D-Maximal_Primal
Your overall thoughts on episode 9
I love rivalries in fiction and it's fun to see a new one within the Transformers lore involving Bumblebee. Plus more Shockwave experiments are always fun and this show further proves that it can handle darker subject matters (though not as dark as destroying Bumblebee's voice box). - William-James88
This was a strong episode, showing what Shockwave won't hesitate to do, and what's motivating Shadow Striker. I can see more encounters with Bee and friends. Will she remember his act to spare her? Or is she going to take any chance to take him out.-ZeroWolf
A very entertaining, well-written episode! Definitely the best after episode, or well... second. -notirishman
Great episode, this one feels like a great origin story, and as a whole the series feels like it's getting some good legs in under it. I enjoyed the banter between Bee and Shadowstriker, and I enjoyed the pity Bee feels while also still finding her an enemy. They have a pretty decent dynamic, and it can set up for some great moments to be explored later on. -D-Maximal_Primal
Episode 10 MacCadam's
Synopsis: Bumblebee remembers MacCadam's, his favorite hangout on Cybertron, at three different points in its storied history.
What you liked best about episode 10
DEADLOCK!!!!!!! Not that Drift/Deadlock is that much of a favourite of mine, but more that this show (both the show Cyberverse and this particular episode) is the most steeped example of new IDW Transformers lore put on screen. There is a lot more that reminds me of James Robert's G1 here, such as seeing Megatron in the Macadams bar before the war, plus the story not being told linearly and that becoming a plot point in and of itself. And we get to see Soundwave show off some great dance moves. - William-James88
Everything, well not quite everything (see below) but this was the best episode I've seen yet. I loved the first memory, showing again how everyone got along before the war, seeing Wheeljack and Shockwave being friendly was hilarious. I want to see more of that time period, what other friendships were destroyed? -ZeroWolf
This episode is just... really crammed with Transformers lore! While I won't delve into it too much, I will say that this is in fact, the first time Maccadam appeared in an animated cartoon! He sneakily appears in the title sequence for the whole season! One thing in the episode I liked was that you could see the effect of the war on the bar and its customers. It was something you didn't really see in Transformers cartoons, and was very nice to see! Also am a fan of the IDW universe references, namely Chromia pleading Windblade to return to their world Caminus, and Deadlock (Drift), finding safe passage in Maccadam's. -notirishman
The entire Maccadam's setting. It is so cool to see this public fun location over the course of 3 very different time periods, and what this place means to those assembled and present. It is cool to see how the characters all interacted before they became mortal enemies, with the Shockwave and Wheeljack friendship, and the dancing Soundwave and seekers as examples. It was fun! It was enjoyable! And no matter if it was in peace or in war, the place was nice to view, and it was also great because we got moments where fighting wasn't allowed, so everyone had to interact peacefully. -D-Maximal_Primal
What you liked least about episode 10
I guess the only thing I would like at this point is for them to drop the Bumblebee radio voice gimmick in the present, but that's old news. There wasn't much to complain about here aside from that it was too short and I want more pre/early war stories. - William-James88
We didn't get any longer in the pre-war memory. Even this us a minor quibble. -ZeroWolf
Deadlock didn't talk at all, which is fine, so, I mean, this episode really had little wrong in my eyes! -notirishman
I feel like this episode really didn't have a weak spot. It was all around strong in so many ways, and between the characters, the setting, and the jump around in time, it was paced well and enjoyable! So there really isn't something I did not like, or at least liked the least, in this episode. -D-Maximal_Primal
Your overall thoughts on episode 10
Best episode in the series so far and a nice deep cut within Transfomers lore for fans of all ages to enjoy. - William-James88
More like this please. The nods to other continuities was great, and it was nice to see macadams finally animated and to get a look at this version of the character, whose face looks a little like a ships psychiatrist from an IDW series that's ending. I think it's because of the eyes. It was also a fun cameo from Deadlock, from the point where he's trying to join the Autobots, so maybe Drift is in Cyberverses future? So far this is the high point of the show for me, let's wait and see now what the next batch bring. -ZeroWolf
This was my favorite episode in the show; it was well written, was jammed full of lore, and was very entertaining. -notirishman
Excellent episode, probably one of the best we have gotten over the course of the past few years in Transformers cartoons. It's certainly up there in terms of quality, has lots of good Easter Eggs, has a lot of fun, and shows us a great look at Cybertron through time. It even finally gives characterization to its longtime bartender and owner, and I like this version of Maccadam. It's really cool and it's 11 minutes of your life you really need to watch and enjoy. -D-Maximal_Primal
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Posted by Ig89ninja on October 29th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 29th, 2018 @ 7:55pm CDT
As a small but cool note, the false memory Ark features Deadlock as an Autobot, and the first TV appearance of Rack'n'Ruin! But as this is a false memory, it is unclear as to whether either bot was on the Ark, and if Deadlock is still Deadlock, or has taken a new Drift-y form.
You can check out both clips below, and let us know what you think of these upcoming episodes in the comments section below!
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 30th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CDT
Posted by Short Circuit on October 30th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 31st, 2018 @ 12:13am CDT
"Red rust".Short Circuit wrote:Now, in Terminal Velocity, did the infected drone/worker say general mumble, "RedRot," or "Reh-Rah"?
Posted by PerfectVision on November 1st, 2018 @ 3:43pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on November 1st, 2018 @ 11:18pm CDT
You do know that the Seekers in this show are led by a female, right? And at least one or two of them that we've seen beneath the leader are female, too. And Shadow Striker's another female.PerfectVision wrote:i didn't watch the two last épisode because i follow the french diffusion,i can already say it's a feminist propagande with overpowered female.And underpowered seekers,they can't even aim...Wait,it was like that since the first TV serie?!
If anything, the Decepticons have shown more of their female members than the Autobots so far.
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:48am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You do know that the Seekers in this show are led by a female, right? And at least one or two of them that we've seen beneath the leader are female, too. And Shadow Striker's another female.PerfectVision wrote:i didn't watch the two last épisode because i follow the french diffusion,i can already say it's a feminist propagande with overpowered female.And underpowered seekers,they can't even aim...Wait,it was like that since the first TV serie?!
If anything, the Decepticons have shown more of their female members than the Autobots so far.
It change none of my words.The second part is to remind how incompetent the sbires usually are.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 8:43am CDT
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 9:58am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:How is Windblade overpowered?
She solve everything,telepathie is an extra detail for that.i'm still waiting for Optimus and Megatron to show their force in duel but following this logic,it may never happen.And who else is powerful?Genderless Soundwave?.Shadow striker is better at catching Bee than the seekers who have a female lead by the way.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 3:46pm CDT
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:12pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Is this the Windblade who was very easily beaten by Thundercracker and in every fight since has had to rely on brains to win? She's shown to be smart but not smarter then Shockwave. Also the series is about bumblebee... So you might see prime vs Megatron in a memory.
Intelligence is part of power(her magical helix?).Do you know the TV serie MENTALIST where the detective is god like and his targets dumb?That doesn't mean i'm into live action much.Shockwave has never looked smart with his cannon arm useless for someone who use keyboards and precision items.I feared an overpowered Bee longtime ago but it still can happen.
EDIT
He is as powerful as a child right now.I can't wait for the plot twist where we learn his parents are Optimus and Windblade.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:19pm CDT
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:40pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:41pm CDT
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:A character isn't overpowered if they're constantly struggling against every opponent they go up against.
"A" and "they"?
It still lack plurialism.
"struggling"...Maybe CYBERVERSE épisodes are too short.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:55pm CDT
Yes, "A" character of the gender-neutral "they". But if you wanna be nitpicky about it then, fine, I'll rephrase my statement just for you:PerfectVision wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A character isn't overpowered if they're constantly struggling against every opponent they go up against.
"A" and "they"?
Windblade isn't overpowered is she's constantly struggling against every opponent she goes up against.
She would be overpowered if she was defeating every opponent with ease and no struggle at all, but that isn't the case because she does struggle every time.
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:57pm CDT
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:59pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yes, "A" character of the gender-neutral "they". But if you wanna be nitpicky about it then, fine, I'll rephrase my statement just for you:PerfectVision wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A character isn't overpowered if they're constantly struggling against every opponent they go up against.
"A" and "they"?
Windblade isn't overpowered is she's constantly struggling against every opponent she goes up against.
She would be overpowered if she was defeating every opponent with ease and no struggle at all, but that isn't the case because she does struggle every time.
It's not pluriel,it would be"The characters aren't"or"if he is".
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 5:01pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:In my opinion, Windblade is more powerful than Bumblebee, but only because she isn't missing any memories. For 'Bee, it's like he was just born and is trying to learn about the universe he lives in. Windblade on the other hand, knows about the Decepticons and what they're capable of and is trying to remind 'Bee about this. Also intelligence is NOT a superpower. If having a brain is a superpower, then Energon is the best cartoon ever made.
I know we're having a discussion but saying that about Energon is a step too far don't you think
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 2nd, 2018 @ 5:03pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Decepticon Stryker wrote:In my opinion, Windblade is more powerful than Bumblebee, but only because she isn't missing any memories. For 'Bee, it's like he was just born and is trying to learn about the universe he lives in. Windblade on the other hand, knows about the Decepticons and what they're capable of and is trying to remind 'Bee about this. Also intelligence is NOT a superpower. If having a brain is a superpower, then Energon is the best cartoon ever made.
I know we're having a discussion but saying that about Energon is a step too far don't you think
Well as long as having a brain isn't a superpower, I think we'll be safe.
Posted by notsoalex on November 4th, 2018 @ 11:55am CST
The episode has aired in Canada and Cartoon Network for US airing, as well as the Cartoon Network mobile app and their website.
Check out our roundtable review of this episode and the last episode, "Shadowstriker," here.
Posted by Ig89ninja on November 4th, 2018 @ 2:09pm CST
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 4th, 2018 @ 2:20pm CST
Ig89ninja wrote:Let’s be honest now, we all know who the Maccadam is referring to at the end
A King Dinosaur...... Must be Joey the Lemur.
Posted by Flashwave on November 4th, 2018 @ 2:37pm CST
Ig89ninja wrote:Let’s be honest now, we all know who the Maccadam is referring to at the end
I'm not so sure it is Grimlock. I'm sure that's who they're going to go in at finding, but something tells me king of the dinosaurs is more of a reference to a place or a sign that's going to point towards the ark. Either that or it's Grimlock trapped in an animatronic alt mode. He did say he is rather groggy and angry when he comes out of stasis so maybe somebody found them in assume he's just a robot.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 4th, 2018 @ 4:05pm CST
Posted by PerfectVision on November 4th, 2018 @ 6:35pm CST
I hope Grimlock come with someone else it would speed up this slug.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 4th, 2018 @ 6:56pm CST
Posted by PerfectVision on November 4th, 2018 @ 7:22pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Given the hints, I would think that macadams is perfectly powered I mean Primes are pretty powerful (IDW fiction aside where everything is and always has been... Shockwaves fault)
But he is just a barman?
Posted by Sabrblade on November 4th, 2018 @ 7:24pm CST
The guy's been rumored to be one of the Thirteen since 2004. More recently that rumor has pegged him as Alchemist Prime, but remains a rumor despite his design in this show being very much based on Alchemist's design.PerfectVision wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Given the hints, I would think that macadams is perfectly powered I mean Primes are pretty powerful (IDW fiction aside where everything is and always has been... Shockwaves fault)
But he is just a barman?
Posted by william-james88 on November 4th, 2018 @ 7:38pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:The guy's been rumored to be one of the Thirteen since 2004. More recently that rumor has pegged him as Alchemist Prime, but remains a rumor despite his design in this shown being very much based on Alchemist's design.PerfectVision wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Given the hints, I would think that macadams is perfectly powered I mean Primes are pretty powerful (IDW fiction aside where everything is and always has been... Shockwaves fault)
But he is just a barman?
Does it depend on the particular continuity?
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:20am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 5th, 2018 @ 7:12am CST
Does what now?william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The guy's been rumored to be one of the Thirteen since 2004. More recently that rumor has pegged him as Alchemist Prime, but remains a rumor despite his design in this shown being very much based on Alchemist's design.PerfectVision wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Given the hints, I would think that macadams is perfectly powered I mean Primes are pretty powerful (IDW fiction aside where everything is and always has been... Shockwaves fault)
But he is just a barman?
Does it depend on the particular continuity?
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 6th, 2018 @ 7:12am CST
Posted by o.supreme on November 6th, 2018 @ 9:05am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Does what now?
I believe he is referring to the true identity of MacCadam. (Does his identity depend on the continuity), to which I'd say yes. In the original Marvel UK I believe he was simply *just a bartender*, but recently he's been retconned to be a Prime (Alchemist?). Although going by the references to time, and him being able to help BB in his stored memories I thought he would have been Vector prime, but oh well.
Rodimus Knight wrote:I just want to say, the best part was Soundwave and the seekers dancing in the bar.
Trying not to color this forum with too much negativity. But...That scene got an audible groan from both myself, AND my 12 year old son. It's not often we are on the same page but, let's just say, there are way more negatives to this series from my point of view than positives. Still, I've been a Transformers fan since day one, and I feel obligated to watch pretty much anything for completion sake. My son has been a fan for pretty much his entire life as well, but he's gotten to the age that if he doesn't like something, (i.e. this series), he simply wont watch it. Sometimes, I envy him.
Posted by william-james88 on November 6th, 2018 @ 9:12am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Does what now?william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The guy's been rumored to be one of the Thirteen since 2004. More recently that rumor has pegged him as Alchemist Prime, but remains a rumor despite his design in this shown being very much based on Alchemist's design.PerfectVision wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Given the hints, I would think that macadams is perfectly powered I mean Primes are pretty powerful (IDW fiction aside where everything is and always has been... Shockwaves fault)
But he is just a barman?
Does it depend on the particular continuity?
Does Macadam's identity depend on the partcular continuity?
Posted by Sabrblade on November 6th, 2018 @ 12:28pm CST
Maccadam is Maccadam. That's all that matters. Anything beyond that is officially supposed to be mystery, rumor, and/or "nudge nudge, wink wink".william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Does what now?william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The guy's been rumored to be one of the Thirteen since 2004. More recently that rumor has pegged him as Alchemist Prime, but remains a rumor despite his design in this shown being very much based on Alchemist's design.PerfectVision wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Given the hints, I would think that macadams is perfectly powered I mean Primes are pretty powerful (IDW fiction aside where everything is and always has been... Shockwaves fault)
But he is just a barman?
Does it depend on the particular continuity?
Does Macadam's identity depend on the partcular continuity?
Posted by PerfectVision on November 11th, 2018 @ 9:19am CST
SPOILER
They get rid of her?Really?
Posted by Ig89ninja on November 11th, 2018 @ 10:58am CST
SPOILER
I feel like Slipstream should have sent the ship as far away from Windblade when she had the chance
Posted by Sabrblade on November 11th, 2018 @ 12:03pm CST
And here's Episode 12 "Teletraan-X" a week early - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wzazg
Posted by o.supreme on November 12th, 2018 @ 9:11am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Episode 11 "Sabotage":
The one time Beastie Boys wouldn't have seemed overused, and they didn't go for it
Sabrblade wrote:And here's Episode 12 "Teletraan-X" a week early -
...And I'll be skipping this episode intentionally for fear of my head exploding from all the mispronunciation.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 12th, 2018 @ 9:18am CST
No one mispronounces it in this episode.o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And here's Episode 12 "Teletraan-X" a week early -
...And I'll be skipping this episode intentionally for fear of my head exploding from all the mispronunciation.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 12th, 2018 @ 6:47pm CST
Y'all see this show's design for Deadlock:
Apparently it was based on a piece of fan art drawn by Guido Guidi, who made a retro-styled design of Deadlock based on the G1 cartoon design of Springer:
I'm doubting it was done with Guidi's consultation, as that very piece of fan art is the first image that comes up in a Google Image search for the G1 Transformer Deadlock:
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 12th, 2018 @ 7:06pm CST
The episode also features a few pretty cool cameo appearances, including our very first look at Rack'N'Ruin in a non-comic book appearance!
Check out the episode below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 12th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CST
PerfectVision wrote:I saw the last two épisode,it finally feel like something very important is happening,i hope it won't fall flat.I can say you can begin watching if you haven't alrady.
SPOILER
They get rid of her?Really?
Nope, Windblade's still alive. She's the focus of the next episode
Also, it took us 12 episodes to see a human. That is a really long time. Sure, Beast Wars took a whole season (Was it Season 2 or 3 when we see Proto-humans?) And Beast Machines took all the way until Thrust's backstory, but this was pretty long.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 13th, 2018 @ 2:07am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 17th, 2018 @ 11:17pm CST
Episode 14 "Siloed" - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xd0s3
Posted by ThunderThruster on November 18th, 2018 @ 7:30am CST
Posted by Ig89ninja on November 18th, 2018 @ 1:10pm CST
SPOILER:He looks like Glados from portal
Posted by PerfectVision on November 18th, 2018 @ 1:27pm CST
Ig89ninja wrote:Teletraan x is on YouTube
SPOILER:He looks like Glados from portal
Or a probe from STARCRAFT,Bee has an electric sword like a zealot.Why not cyberpsychic abilities?Because ONLY Windblade will recieve them.
One sentence for this whole TV serie:"Bee play videogames while Windblade do all the hard work like a mother".Does the targeted audience is the single moms?That's child abuse by the way.I'm open to anything,plurialism would help.
EDIT
They already have psychic attacks,like in the duel beetween Starscream and Optimus.