Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10

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Round Table Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10

Episode 9 Shadowstriker

Synopsis: Bumblebee revisits memories of his archnemesis Shadowstriker and learns there's more to being a hero than just knowing how to fight.

What you liked best about episode 9

I like how this show cements the fun premise that this show will be told out of order and that questions will be answered. We had seen Shadowstriker before for a very short time and she was acting like Frankenstein's monster, presumably with no reason given. And now we see why. I like that. Plus it's a good origin story to the rivalry between Bumblebee and his new nemesis. I also love whenever Shockwave is used properly and we see how important he was to the war effort here, being the mad scientist he is. There is also some great Transformers imagery here involving Optimus in a similar pose to the famous Wolverine cover by Mark Silvestri. - William-James88

I liked the fact that this episode gave depth to one of the completely new characters for the franchise, Shadow Striker. Up to now we didn't know a lot about her or why she looked the way she did. By shining the spotlight on her, we got to see her a lot better. -ZeroWolf

The episode, once again, is very serious and considerably darker than other episodes. The episode has a great overall mood and well-written story. This episode explains the story behind Shadow Striker, the bounty hunter lad. I don't want to get into spoilers, let’s just say, she's a bit traumatized, eh? There is a funny scene, where her Seeker guards' were having a conversation about nothing. Literally nothing. It's actually pretty funny. -notirishman

Fleshing out Shadowstriker the way they did. They kind of took a more original path with her, making her one of the best Decepticons who is ruthless and really good. And then they have the main character accidentally blow her up, and the end result is she is the core spark of her former self, but with a freakish appearance from the reconnected body parts of her subordinates, who can no longer physically do what she used to and must make do, and as make do in a very angry way. They made her scary, but with reason. Used to be good, but now struggling to make do and fueled by vengeance. They made her a good character, and this was basically her spotlight. -D-Maximal_Primal

Transformers News: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10


What you liked least about episode 9

It was a tad bit confusing at times and I do not know how Windblade knows certain things if she is not part of those memories we are seeing. - William-James88

Honestly, they could have just left out the wrap around with Windblade sparring with Bee. The time could be used better to add to Shadow Striker's parts. -ZeroWolf

When Shadow Striker blames Bumblebee for her life, he seems very angry at Shadow Striker trying to shoot him, despite she clearly losing a lot more? Also, how exactly did Shadow Striker get Optimus? -notirishman

I would not have minded if Shadowstriker looked a little more Frankenstein like. I feel she could have done with a little bit more in the patchwork department, especially since she's a car and her subordinates were seeker jets (that we saw). This could have provided some fun moments too, if she had jets in her boots from the other's parts and she could jump really high or even fly. -D-Maximal_Primal

Transformers News: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10

Your overall thoughts on episode 9

I love rivalries in fiction and it's fun to see a new one within the Transformers lore involving Bumblebee. Plus more Shockwave experiments are always fun and this show further proves that it can handle darker subject matters (though not as dark as destroying Bumblebee's voice box). - William-James88

This was a strong episode, showing what Shockwave won't hesitate to do, and what's motivating Shadow Striker. I can see more encounters with Bee and friends. Will she remember his act to spare her? Or is she going to take any chance to take him out.-ZeroWolf

A very entertaining, well-written episode! Definitely the best after episode, or well... second. -notirishman

Great episode, this one feels like a great origin story, and as a whole the series feels like it's getting some good legs in under it. I enjoyed the banter between Bee and Shadowstriker, and I enjoyed the pity Bee feels while also still finding her an enemy. They have a pretty decent dynamic, and it can set up for some great moments to be explored later on. -D-Maximal_Primal


Episode 10 MacCadam's

Synopsis: Bumblebee remembers MacCadam's, his favorite hangout on Cybertron, at three different points in its storied history.

What you liked best about episode 10

DEADLOCK!!!!!!! Not that Drift/Deadlock is that much of a favourite of mine, but more that this show (both the show Cyberverse and this particular episode) is the most steeped example of new IDW Transformers lore put on screen. There is a lot more that reminds me of James Robert's G1 here, such as seeing Megatron in the Macadams bar before the war, plus the story not being told linearly and that becoming a plot point in and of itself. And we get to see Soundwave show off some great dance moves. - William-James88

Everything, well not quite everything (see below) but this was the best episode I've seen yet. I loved the first memory, showing again how everyone got along before the war, seeing Wheeljack and Shockwave being friendly was hilarious. I want to see more of that time period, what other friendships were destroyed? -ZeroWolf

This episode is just... really crammed with Transformers lore! While I won't delve into it too much, I will say that this is in fact, the first time Maccadam appeared in an animated cartoon! He sneakily appears in the title sequence for the whole season! One thing in the episode I liked was that you could see the effect of the war on the bar and its customers. It was something you didn't really see in Transformers cartoons, and was very nice to see! Also am a fan of the IDW universe references, namely Chromia pleading Windblade to return to their world Caminus, and Deadlock (Drift), finding safe passage in Maccadam's. -notirishman

The entire Maccadam's setting. It is so cool to see this public fun location over the course of 3 very different time periods, and what this place means to those assembled and present. It is cool to see how the characters all interacted before they became mortal enemies, with the Shockwave and Wheeljack friendship, and the dancing Soundwave and seekers as examples. It was fun! It was enjoyable! And no matter if it was in peace or in war, the place was nice to view, and it was also great because we got moments where fighting wasn't allowed, so everyone had to interact peacefully. -D-Maximal_Primal

Transformers News: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10

What you liked least about episode 10

I guess the only thing I would like at this point is for them to drop the Bumblebee radio voice gimmick in the present, but that's old news. There wasn't much to complain about here aside from that it was too short and I want more pre/early war stories. - William-James88

We didn't get any longer in the pre-war memory. Even this us a minor quibble. -ZeroWolf

Deadlock didn't talk at all, which is fine, so, I mean, this episode really had little wrong in my eyes! -notirishman

I feel like this episode really didn't have a weak spot. It was all around strong in so many ways, and between the characters, the setting, and the jump around in time, it was paced well and enjoyable! So there really isn't something I did not like, or at least liked the least, in this episode. -D-Maximal_Primal

Transformers News: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10

Your overall thoughts on episode 10

Best episode in the series so far and a nice deep cut within Transfomers lore for fans of all ages to enjoy. - William-James88

More like this please. The nods to other continuities was great, and it was nice to see macadams finally animated and to get a look at this version of the character, whose face looks a little like a ships psychiatrist from an IDW series that's ending. I think it's because of the eyes. It was also a fun cameo from Deadlock, from the point where he's trying to join the Autobots, so maybe Drift is in Cyberverses future? So far this is the high point of the show for me, let's wait and see now what the next batch bring. -ZeroWolf

This was my favorite episode in the show; it was well written, was jammed full of lore, and was very entertaining. -notirishman

Excellent episode, probably one of the best we have gotten over the course of the past few years in Transformers cartoons. It's certainly up there in terms of quality, has lots of good Easter Eggs, has a lot of fun, and shows us a great look at Cybertron through time. It even finally gives characterization to its longtime bartender and owner, and I like this version of Maccadam. It's really cool and it's 11 minutes of your life you really need to watch and enjoy. -D-Maximal_Primal

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Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1991593)
Posted by Ig89ninja on October 29th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CDT
All I want now is to see someone edit the Soundwave dancing scene with meme music :D
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1991652)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 29th, 2018 @ 7:55pm CDT
Thanks to the Cartoon Network youtube channel, we have 2 new clips to show you from the Transformers: Cyberverse TV show. These 2 clips take place over the course of the upcoming episodes 11 and 12, titled "Sabotage" and "Teletraan X". The first clip shows us Shockwave breaking into Bumblebee's memories and placing false memories, posing as Windblade, designed to mislead Bumblebee into thinking he is a Decepticon double agent. The second clip features a Seeker trap set for Bumblebee and Windblade by the seekers, and features a cute and annoying drone from the Ark, apparently named Teletraan X.

As a small but cool note, the false memory Ark features Deadlock as an Autobot, and the first TV appearance of Rack'n'Ruin! But as this is a false memory, it is unclear as to whether either bot was on the Ark, and if Deadlock is still Deadlock, or has taken a new Drift-y form.

You can check out both clips below, and let us know what you think of these upcoming episodes in the comments section below!



Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1991786)
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 30th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CDT
Pretty clever, Shockwave...
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1991798)
Posted by Short Circuit on October 30th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
Now, in Terminal Velocity, did the infected drone/worker say general mumble, "RedRot," or "Reh-Rah"? Because Reh-Rah sounds like "error" backwards, similar to saying "RedRum" for murder. Maybe he witnessed "Exhaust" planting the rust?
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1991839)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 31st, 2018 @ 12:13am CDT
Short Circuit wrote:Now, in Terminal Velocity, did the infected drone/worker say general mumble, "RedRot," or "Reh-Rah"?
"Red rust".
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992061)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 1st, 2018 @ 3:43pm CDT
i didn't watch the two last épisode because i follow the french diffusion,i can already say it's a feminist propagande with overpowered female.And underpowered seekers,they can't even aim...Wait,it was like that since the first TV serie?!
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992127)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 1st, 2018 @ 11:18pm CDT
PerfectVision wrote:i didn't watch the two last épisode because i follow the french diffusion,i can already say it's a feminist propagande with overpowered female.And underpowered seekers,they can't even aim...Wait,it was like that since the first TV serie?!
You do know that the Seekers in this show are led by a female, right? And at least one or two of them that we've seen beneath the leader are female, too. And Shadow Striker's another female.

If anything, the Decepticons have shown more of their female members than the Autobots so far.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992141)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:48am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
PerfectVision wrote:i didn't watch the two last épisode because i follow the french diffusion,i can already say it's a feminist propagande with overpowered female.And underpowered seekers,they can't even aim...Wait,it was like that since the first TV serie?!
You do know that the Seekers in this show are led by a female, right? And at least one or two of them that we've seen beneath the leader are female, too. And Shadow Striker's another female.

If anything, the Decepticons have shown more of their female members than the Autobots so far.


It change none of my words.The second part is to remind how incompetent the sbires usually are.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992161)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 8:43am CDT
How is Windblade overpowered?
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992187)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 9:58am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:How is Windblade overpowered?

She solve everything,telepathie is an extra detail for that.i'm still waiting for Optimus and Megatron to show their force in duel but following this logic,it may never happen.And who else is powerful?Genderless Soundwave?.Shadow striker is better at catching Bee than the seekers who have a female lead by the way.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992242)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 3:46pm CDT
Is this the Windblade who was very easily beaten by Thundercracker and in every fight since has had to rely on brains to win? She's shown to be smart but not smarter then Shockwave. Also the series is about bumblebee... So you might see prime vs Megatron in a memory.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992247)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:12pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Is this the Windblade who was very easily beaten by Thundercracker and in every fight since has had to rely on brains to win? She's shown to be smart but not smarter then Shockwave. Also the series is about bumblebee... So you might see prime vs Megatron in a memory.


Intelligence is part of power(her magical helix?).Do you know the TV serie MENTALIST where the detective is god like and his targets dumb?That doesn't mean i'm into live action much.Shockwave has never looked smart with his cannon arm useless for someone who use keyboards and precision items.I feared an overpowered Bee longtime ago but it still can happen.

EDIT
He is as powerful as a child right now.I can't wait for the plot twist where we learn his parents are Optimus and Windblade.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992250)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:19pm CDT
We'll chalk this one up to different viewpoints but I don't think Windblade is over powered :) with Shockwave, his gun arm is for when his experiments go awry or when people interrupt him. Different media has always shown him use it well, and in IDW, he was able to rationalise the gun arm as something needed in a time of war. He wasn't wrong when you look at Spotlight Shockwave :lol:
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992254)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:40pm CDT
More pluralism would help against overpowerisation,i hate these series with only one useful character.Surprisingly,MAX STEEL didn't gave me this feeling but it's this kind of formula.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992255)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:41pm CDT
A character isn't overpowered if they're constantly struggling against every opponent they go up against.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992257)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:A character isn't overpowered if they're constantly struggling against every opponent they go up against.

"A" and "they"?

It still lack plurialism.

"struggling"...Maybe CYBERVERSE épisodes are too short.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992260)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:55pm CDT
PerfectVision wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:A character isn't overpowered if they're constantly struggling against every opponent they go up against.

"A" and "they"?
Yes, "A" character of the gender-neutral "they". But if you wanna be nitpicky about it then, fine, I'll rephrase my statement just for you:

Windblade isn't overpowered is she's constantly struggling against every opponent she goes up against.

She would be overpowered if she was defeating every opponent with ease and no struggle at all, but that isn't the case because she does struggle every time.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992261)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:57pm CDT
In my opinion, Windblade is more powerful than Bumblebee, but only because she isn't missing any memories. For 'Bee, it's like he was just born and is trying to learn about the universe he lives in. Windblade on the other hand, knows about the Decepticons and what they're capable of and is trying to remind 'Bee about this. Also intelligence is NOT a superpower. If having a brain is a superpower, then Energon is the best cartoon ever made.
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992262)
Posted by PerfectVision on November 2nd, 2018 @ 4:59pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
PerfectVision wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:A character isn't overpowered if they're constantly struggling against every opponent they go up against.

"A" and "they"?
Yes, "A" character of the gender-neutral "they". But if you wanna be nitpicky about it then, fine, I'll rephrase my statement just for you:

Windblade isn't overpowered is she's constantly struggling against every opponent she goes up against.

She would be overpowered if she was defeating every opponent with ease and no struggle at all, but that isn't the case because she does struggle every time.


It's not pluriel,it would be"The characters aren't"or"if he is".
Re: Roundtable Review for Transformers Cyberverse Episodes 9 and 10 (1992263)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 2nd, 2018 @ 5:01pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:In my opinion, Windblade is more powerful than Bumblebee, but only because she isn't missing any memories. For 'Bee, it's like he was just born and is trying to learn about the universe he lives in. Windblade on the other hand, knows about the Decepticons and what they're capable of and is trying to remind 'Bee about this. Also intelligence is NOT a superpower. If having a brain is a superpower, then Energon is the best cartoon ever made.

:shock: I know we're having a discussion but saying that about Energon is a step too far don't you think :-P

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