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Seibertron's 2023 Year End Review: Best Transformers Toys and Media

Transformers News: Seibertron's 2023 Year End Review: Best Transformers Toys and Media

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Seibertron's Year End Review


It's time to look back at 2023 in all things Transformers. Below you will find the picks from staff members Scotty P, D-Maximus Primal, Bounti76 and myself, william-james88, for the toys we found best in various categories along with our favourite bits of Transformers media and what we look forward to most for next. Please let us know your pics too. And now, on with the list!

Best Overall Transformers Toy

Deathsaurus is beyond a shadow of a doubt the toy of the year. While it was indeed much pricier than any toy his size in a Generations line, this toy showed what the designers at Hasbro could do if they had all the budget they needed to make our beloved toys as great as possible. And they didn't disapoint in any way. I love this toy and wish every Transformers fan could experience him. -william-james88

BURNING CHAINCLAW LET'S F****** GO jk it's Haslab Deathsaurus, soaring to the top of my 2023 pile at the very last minute. Part of my brain is screaming at me that this choice is pure recency bias. It may prove to be, but right now I'm more confident than not that it's the correct choice. Deathsaurus reminds me in many ways of the toys we saw from around 2005 - 2010. He's big, is (mostly) made from materials that feel solid, has tons of satisfying, clicky ratchet joints, and generally looks how I personally want Transformers to look. Best of all, and this is what nudged him past Suiken at the last minute, Deathsaurus looks great on a shelf while also including massive amounts of optional, well integrated play value. There's a plethora of stuff to do if you want to, and if you don't, you can slap that stuff on the back of his chair or in most cases, on his back.
Take your Victory lap, Deathsaurus, Eaglebreast and Tigerbreast. You've earned it.
-ScottyP

ROTB Optimus Prime. I managed to get one from Pulse, and he's fantastic. Tabs and fits together well in both modes, and it's fun to transform. -Bounti76

Legacy Armada Optimus Prime - This toy hit my hands, and I knew from there that this was the best things would get this year. He is so good, just so good! The alt mode screams power and bulk, and I love it. Main robot mode is very solid, very good looking, very well painted and molded, it is just lovely. And then the super mode is just so awesome. They could not have nailed this any better. and the fact that he is compatible with the old Overload is just the cherry on top. Well done team, this one was perfection incarnate. -D-Maximal_Primal

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Best Legacy Toy

Sicko-Mode Powerlinx Hot Shot with Jolt. Take a fun Hot Shot, make it three times faster, give it extra guns and finally include a Mini-Con with an Armada toy homage and you get a super fun afternoon. This is the one Armada themed release from this year that tops its forebear in every possible way. -ScottyP

Tarn. I've wanted a toy of Tarn ever since I saw the design. I always appreciated that Alex Milne designed the character in a way that you could see exactly how it would work as a toy and I admit, I thought of getting a third party version many timed (but the total cost was always prohibitive for me). I'm glad I waited, because Hasbro aced it with this version. Looks like the comic character come to life. -william-james88

Tie between Nemesis and Antagony. Nemesis' altmode is straight out of the G1 cartoon, and they managed to make her robot mode look surprisingly good considering the starship was the priority for the toy. And I'm a sucker for obscure fembots, so Antagony definitely fits that bill, while wearing the mold better than Inferno, IMO. -Bounti76

Prime Dreadwing - After the first year of Legacy, the Prime figures were definitely the weakest link, with pretty poor efforts overall. This year, they shined. Skyquake was really good, and a lot of fun, but then they repainted him like Dreadwing, who is one of my all time favorite Decepticons, and I screamed. He is good, he is beautiful, and I am thankful my boy got another toy. -D-Maximal_Primal

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Best Studio Series Toy

SS86: Snarl, Movie SS: Noah Diaz. Snarl is just great, and yes I wish the gold matched the other dinobots, but outside of that I couldn't ask for more from a Generations incarnation of Snarl. Well, maybe a gun, but aside from that, yes, entirely satisfied. It was a tough choice between this and Magnus, but my love of dinobots won out. I wasn't sure how granular answers in this category should be, but Movie SS and SS86 feel like two entirely different toylines, so I'm picking a separate Movie entry and that is Core Class Noah Diaz. Yes, really. This is a fun toy that takes some liberties with the film's exo-suit, but do you care? Not when it's this fun. It even avoids the weird no-face of recent things like the SS86 exo-suit by just painting over the visor. Maybe not an ideal solution, but better than a bad one! The rest of Movie Studio Series was disqualified for not being very fun. - ScottyP

SS Rhinox. This line felt off this year due to having toys based on non final designs for ROTB and making missteps with every single release of the Gamer Edition subline. But voyager Rhinox turned out awesome. Hasbro was able to make a last minute change to the colours right before it hit the stage of mass production, making this the most accurate ROTB toy this year, and thus the epitome of what the line is meant to be, accurate figures from the live action films. -william-james88

SS 86 Brawn. Another "stepped-out-of-the-cartoon" design, with a cool altmode and the perfect size to fit in with the other Deluxe "mini"bots. -Bounti76

This is probably my hardest category this year. SS was super polarizing this year for me, between Mirage AKA my favorite movie character, Gamer Megatron, and SS86 Snarl being my 2 biggest disappointments of the year, yet RotB Bee being the best SS Bee figure, Gamer Prime rocking out, core Noah being far superior to any other core, it was hard. But for me, Leader Scourge will be my pick. I loved Scourge in the movie, and his toy is pretty solid. It has a slenderman feel to it, with that awesome claw and grill chest. He is fun to pose, and he can look menacing in many different ways. He is just good, I liked him a lot. -D-Maximal_Primal

Best Earthspark Toy

Deluxe Nightshade, pick your deco (Hasbro or Takara). Not since Transformers: Prime, at least generally speaking, have the design teams for Transformers toys needed to make sleek, stylistic, potentially impossible character designs into toys. Sometimes these aren't successful but in the case of Nightshade, they knocked them out of the park. It's also been entirely too many years since an owl was used for an alt mode. The combination of novelty from that non-traditional alt mode plus a surprising level of quality and fun makes for the best output of the Earthspark lineup so far. - ScottyP

Warrior Thrash surprised me as it fit the bill of deluxes of old. I really like motorcycle Transformers since they usually give you a sleek robot with an imaginative transformation and that it exactly what we got. -william-james88

Nightshade. Transformation is a bit more intricate than I expected for an Earthspark toy, but they have a decent robot mode, and their owl mode is unusual and unique. -Bounti76

Warrior Jawbreaker - I adore Jawbreaker in the series, and his toy is no exception. It is fun but simple, elegant yet well painted. I adore him, he is cute and fun. They managed to make a great warrior here that wasn't compromised. -D-Maximal_Primal

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Best ROTB Toy

Takara Optimus Primal. The "mainline" for Rise of the Beasts was surprisingly fun, and while not totally devoid of segments overly hampered by one-note gimmicks, it was a big improvement over the Bumblebee movie's tiny, mostly soulless effort. The main standout from the line has to be Takara's $60-ish Optimus Primal, a big rendition of the Maximal leader that fits right in with the "Leader Class" of years gone by and even the Legendary Optimus Prime they put out for the Bumblebee movie. A great sculpt, fun transformation, and even excellent compatibility with the Beast Battle Masters all adds up to what Transformers could be more often, if only they weren't so darn expensive. - ScottyP

Optimus Primal seems to have gotten the preferential treatment in the ROTB line, with most of his figures being the best of their specific class. The voyager, for instance, was the best of the three, and I really like that deluxe sized weaponizer figure. That was an excellent option for younger kids, providing an easy transformation but still providing good old ball joint articulation from the later Beast era. -william-james88

Voyager Optimus Prime - I am an oddball here, but i didn't like the SS (Buzzworthy Bumblebee) voyager that much. but the main movie voyager? That one was super strong. I like him a lot! It has some really nice little cues here and there that make him proportionally a little better looking than the movie model (which needs smaller thighs, more abs, and less square shoulders) and just makes him a superior toy. I love him, he definitely stood out this year. -D-Maximal_Primal

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Best MP Toy

MPG-04 Suiken is the best of the very slim roster of MP toys released in 2023. All of the Trainbots have had a high degree of elegance in their designs, but the execution hasn't always been on par - just search the internet and social media for pictures of Yukikaze's knees. Suiken and the extremely similar Seizan offer both, in my opinion, with Suiken winning out for a unique color scheme and a headsculpt that completely nails the era the character comes from. The backpack kibble may be an issue for some, but for me it's super easy to just take it off and set it to the side if a slimmer profile is desired.
Honorable mention to MP-57 Skyfire, which would have won this if Takara Tomy hadn't designed him with exploding feet in service of a gerwalk mode that we don't need in Transformers because this isn't Macross and this figure doesn't even use the G1 toy design and ohmygodwhatweretheythinking :BOOM:
-ScottyP

MPM Bonecrusher and MP-56 Trailbreaker. I really tried to pick one of them, I did, but I just could not do it, they are so utterly different and accomplish things so completely different. They are just really good. Trailbreaker makes a great cartoon Trailbreaker, with some cool effects and a nice alt mode. Bonecrusher is huge, posable, but perfectly balanced with wonderful flame effects for movie scene recreations as well as a the highly posable claw and weathering. They are both top notch, and they both deserve a mention. -D-Maximal_Primal

Best TF Media

Earthspark, which probably edged out Rise of the Beasts for me just due to length as there's more here to savor. An entire team of totally new Transformers in a show with a decent budget? When do we get more? The villains of this entry scrape the barrel, but the rest is the most fun you can have with Transformers this year. - ScottyP

I really enjoyed the first comic from the new series. You can read my review here: /transformers ... und/47912/ -william-james88

Rise of the Beasts. While not as good as Bumblebee, still a solid follow-up with some actual good character development for the Autobots, and great voice acting work for the Autobots, Terrorcons, and Maximals. -Bounti76

Skybound comics - This one was also a surprise, I really enjoyed Rise of the Beasts, but the new skybound comics are just so strong. I was very wary of them, but then I heard about issue 1, decided to read it, and now I am hooked. This comic is so good you guys, they know what they are doing. It is a blast, and I cannot recommend it enough.
-D-Maximal_Primal

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What you are looking forward to next year?

Titan Tidal Wave, and hopefully, Hasbro CEO Chris C. (whose entire name I can't type because of the profanity filter, which is honestly kind of hilarious) being fired.
-ScottyP

Magmatron, easy. I never had the original figure but always wanted it since I love Dinosaurs. And now I will own the ultimate version of that figure with modern articulation (a big weakness of the original). -william-james88

Honestly, not a lot of what has been revealed so far interests me, so I hope Hasbro has some amazing things coming up for the 40th Anniversary of the brand. -Bounti76

I am gonna say 2 different Masterpiece releases next year, specifically MPG Kaen and MPM Brawl. Kaen will finally complete Raiden, a project I have long been waiting to complete, ever since it was announced really. And Brawl will, with the exception of the Frenzy we really need, complete the MP 07 movie cast, which I am so excited for! Especially since the cons have been really solid, with Bonecrusher proving to be such a solid entry this year. -D-Maximal_Primal

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Re: Seibertron's 2023 Year End Review: Best Transformers Toys and Media (2174955)
Posted by ScottyP on January 6th, 2024 @ 9:41am CST
Idk D-Max, maybe they should do MPM Devastator (the tank from the 2007 movie) before MPM Brawl :lol:
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Posted by Quantum Surge on January 6th, 2024 @ 10:09am CST
Best toy overall for me is a tie between Armada Prime, MPM Bonecrusher, and Takara ROTB Primal. Meanwhile, I loved ROTB the most out of the 2023 media we had. Way better than TLK and Bumblebee while also comparable to the original Bay trilogy.
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Posted by o.supreme on January 6th, 2024 @ 10:47am CST
Best Toy - Haslab Deathsaurus. I do enjoy the MPG Trainbots as well, but until I have the completed Raiden, it is still a "wait and see" to make a final judgement. However the 2 Arms that came out in 2023 (MPG 04 & 05) were definitely improvements of engineering over the Legs.

AS for media...well I guess its RotB by default as its the only piece of TF Media I paid for :lol: (Saw it once in the theater, and purchased the Blu Ray). I have zero interest in Earthspark, and I've heard good things about the new comics. But after 15 years of *mostly* awful IDW (Thankfully I did cut ties in 2018 when the first continuity ended), I'm just not ready to jump back into comics yet.
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Posted by Overcracker on January 6th, 2024 @ 11:37am CST
Armada Prime is definitely the highlight of the year.

I’m sure Deathsaurus is just as good if not better, but being the Haslab option, and unfeasible to get if you don’t live in the US, Canada or the UK, deducts some points.

SS RotB Leader Class Primal is also a lot of fun, imho.

Ultra Magnus is just o.k, but has the benefit of not being as expensive as Prime.


Gamer Edition Prime deserves a mention, just because he was better than the rest of that line by a mile.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 6th, 2024 @ 3:17pm CST
I have to agree with most of the points made here. There were a couple of figures I bought at the end of the year that I haven't been able to experience due to United dropping early. I don't break things down like you guys do so my figure of the year is Core Class Noah Diaz, once a viewer tipped me off to a few hidden features I missed this toy became the best. I'm keeping an eye out for the Takara release to see what they're going to do.

Armada Prime would've probably been #1 but the fiddly base mode took some of the joy out of it for me and, as I mentioned in my review, the cab is a FANTASTIC Optimus Prime but knowing what we know now, the super mode is less Prime and more GaoGaiGar.

2024 is either going to be good or suck harder and worse than any other year in history.
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Posted by Emerje on January 7th, 2024 @ 1:09am CST
Overcracker wrote:Gamer Edition Prime deserves a mention, just because he was better than the rest of that line by a mile.

Shame he never showed up in stores for most of us and therefore sold out fast online. Hopefully he gets repacked.

Emerje
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Posted by Overcracker on January 7th, 2024 @ 9:14am CST
Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Gamer Edition Prime deserves a mention, just because he was better than the rest of that line by a mile.

Shame he never showed up in stores for most of us and therefore sold out fast online. Hopefully he gets repacked.

Emerje


Agreed
Re: Seibertron's 2023 Year End Review: Best Transformers Toys and Media (2175015)
Posted by ScottyP on January 7th, 2024 @ 10:19am CST
Overcracker wrote:Armada Prime is definitely the highlight of the year.
I really thought about it as my pick for Legacy, but the lack of Mini-Con and tacked on base mode made it just come up short. Excellent toy though.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:the super mode is less Prime and more GaoGaiGar.
:???: I see no power tools, lions, drill tanks, trains, stealth bombers or cyborgs.
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 7th, 2024 @ 11:20am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:2024 is either going to be good or suck harder and worse than any other year in history.

The fact that SS86 Swoop is finally going to be released means this year is automatically "good" at least.
For me, when the mix also includes Gears, Origins Wheeljack, SS86 Scrapheap, SS86 Blaster, the newly leaked Autobot 5-pack, SS86 leader class Springer, SS86 CC Prime, and possibly a new leader class G1 Soundwave, this year could be really great.
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 8th, 2024 @ 3:06pm CST
2023 was a pretty solid year for my collection (sorry wallet) and was the year of troop building (sorry again wallet). I really liked that things kind of went all over the place with the pre-war Amazon figures and the unreleased G2 make your eyes bleed decos.

My favorite 3 figures of the year all had a theme of being great on their own, while also a solid improvement over their predecessors at least in my mind. They also all came in December, so there is a good chance of recency bias at play here, but the fiures are great no matter what.

My top figure of the year was Haslab Deathsaurus. Super outstanding to me in every way. While I was satisfied with Victory Saber, Deathsaurus blows him away in the fun department.

Second place for me was Titan Nemesis, who to me is an improvement over the Arkbot Titan with the ship mode being pretty much perfect and the robot mode not suffering because of it.

My third top figure is the GIJoe crossover Soundwave/Thunder Machine. Such an improvment over Megatron and Bee with the best alt mode integration of the 3 as well as the best color pallet for the vehicle no clashing with the robod deco. Same price as Megatron was with a second o-ring figure and a materpiece Ravage? I paid full price with no regrets. I also had the Thunder Machine as a kid, so this hit all the right nostalgia buttons.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 8th, 2024 @ 6:36pm CST
ScottyP wrote:Idk D-Max, maybe they should do MPM Devastator (the tank from the 2007 movie) before MPM Brawl :lol:

oh you :lol: :lol:
Re: Seibertron's 2023 Year End Review: Best Transformers Toys and Media (2175117)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on January 8th, 2024 @ 11:29pm CST
Hey WJ, how about a "Worst" of in 2023 as only you can...? ;)^ :VEHI:
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 9th, 2024 @ 8:33am CST
Nemesis Destron wrote:Hey WJ, how about a "Worst" of in 2023 as only you can...? ;)^ :VEHI:

Worst overall: SS86 Snarl
Worst Legacy toy: Lio Convoy
Worst SS: RotB Mirage
Worst ES: Warrior Skywarp
Worst RotB: beast combiner arcee
Worst MP: MPG Yukikaze
Worst Media: RotB CGI and GI Joe reveal
Least looking forward to next year: having to wonder how I will get a SS Hatchet
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Posted by Nemesis Destron on January 9th, 2024 @ 11:46am CST
Alright D-Maximal that being said EVERYTHING ROTB except SS Bee and SS Exo-Suit! :VEHI:
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 17th, 2024 @ 2:03pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Hey WJ, how about a "Worst" of in 2023 as only you can...? ;)^ :VEHI:

Worst overall: SS86 Snarl
Why do you hate SS86 Snarl so much? o.O What has he done so wrong in your book that you kicked him to the bottom of the list?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Worst Legacy toy: Lio Convoy
Now this one, I get. I find him alright, and would personally give the "worst Legacy toy" spot to the Putzwing reissue nobody asked for (for being a reissue nobody asked for and clogging other figures from getting shelved), but he's definitely not great (even more a pale shadow of the original than Kingdom Primal) and has some odd changes compared to the original (although at least unlike Armada Megs he has shoulder rotation).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Least looking forward to next year: having to wonder how I will get a SS Hatchet
Ah yes, that's going to be "fun". My personal "least looking forward to" however is Titan Tidal Wave.

Best Legacy toy:
Commander-class Optimus Prime. The base mode is definitely diminished, but still has some fun to it. And he's overall an excellent update where the tradeoffs in play value made are even. Very glad I bought him, play with him rather a lot. As far as figures I have personally experienced, he's the best overall.
Honorable mention to Dirge for finally giving us a real release of Earthrise Dirge.

Best Studio Series toy:
SS86 Snarl. I love the G1 Dinobots, he's well-detailed and very well articulated in both robot and dinosaur mode. It's a shame his tail can't be angled up, but that's my only real complaint. He's got an excellent sculpt, he moves well, the weapon storage for his sword is good... The only bad part, was getting hold of him.
Honorable mention to RotB Wheeljack for being a VW bus.

Most looking forward to next year:
Origins Wheeljack, and the possibility of SSROTF reissues (nothing's been announced or leaked, but the timing is right and we could certainly use them... especially the Constructicons...).
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Posted by ScottyP on January 18th, 2024 @ 7:17am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Hey WJ, how about a "Worst" of in 2023 as only you can...? ;)^ :VEHI:

Worst overall: SS86 Snarl
Why do you hate SS86 Snarl so much? o.O What has he done so wrong in your book that you kicked him to the bottom of the list?
I really don't understand the Snarl hate either. Did folks forget what G1 Snarl looks like when setting their expectations for that figure? I just don't get it. Snarl is fantastic. Not perfect, but I really like it.

Also, once all those people got fired that was the worst of the year. Hasbro's reinvestment into profit instead of people is the m.o. for a publicly traded company and while I understand it, I don't have to like it.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 18th, 2024 @ 7:44am CST
ScottyP wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Hey WJ, how about a "Worst" of in 2023 as only you can...? ;)^ :VEHI:

Worst overall: SS86 Snarl
Why do you hate SS86 Snarl so much? o.O What has he done so wrong in your book that you kicked him to the bottom of the list?
I really don't understand the Snarl hate either. Did folks forget what G1 Snarl looks like when setting their expectations for that figure? I just don't get it. Snarl is fantastic. Not perfect, but I really like it.

Also, once all those people got fired that was the worst of the year. Hasbro's reinvestment into profit instead of people is the m.o. for a publicly traded company and while I understand it, I don't have to like it.

Snarl has a lot of problems as a G1 cartoon design, and as a new toy.

1) His cartoon look is missing 2/3 of the tail. Stego's have long tails after the tall back hips. Snarl literally has a bunny tail sticking out his butt. It looks hideous, always has, and it looks especially bad when it's this big.

2) His robot mode proportions are all over the place. His arms, thighs, and waist all feel too small, while his torso is a cartoonish out of proportion size. And the small tail really makes for pathetic back kibble. He is just an eye-sore, like Slug, except worse.

3) his sword is hilariously short, really does not match the robot size(s).

I am more forgiving of the Core because it is only tiny, but a full on leader, I really wish they had tried to fix his proportions instead of highlighting them.

Also, Stegosaurs are my favorite dinosaur, so it extra hurts to see one butchered this badly.
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 18th, 2024 @ 11:11pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Hey WJ, how about a "Worst" of in 2023 as only you can...? ;)^ :VEHI:

Worst overall: SS86 Snarl
Why do you hate SS86 Snarl so much? o.O What has he done so wrong in your book that you kicked him to the bottom of the list?
I really don't understand the Snarl hate either. Did folks forget what G1 Snarl looks like when setting their expectations for that figure? I just don't get it. Snarl is fantastic. Not perfect, but I really like it.

Also, once all those people got fired that was the worst of the year. Hasbro's reinvestment into profit instead of people is the m.o. for a publicly traded company and while I understand it, I don't have to like it.

Snarl has a lot of problems as a G1 cartoon design, and as a new toy.

1) His cartoon look is missing 2/3 of the tail. Stego's have long tails after the tall back hips. Snarl literally has a bunny tail sticking out his butt. It looks hideous, always has, and it looks especially bad when it's this big.
Mmmm... Actually, in the cartoon itself the tail seems to usually be a decent length in dino mode.
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Sometimes better than the original toy, even:
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Now, in robot mode it's definitely laughably stubby compared to the toy:
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I'm disappointed by the shortness of the Studio Series figure's tail too; I kinda feel like it might have been better to leave the back side of it hollow in exchange for more length. But it doesn't bother me to nearly the same degree.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2) His robot mode proportions are all over the place. His arms, thighs, and waist all feel too small, while his torso is a cartoonish out of proportion size.
A lot of that is kinda baked into the G1 Snarl design in general, especially if you want it to transform, and for my money I think he does a decent amount to ameliorate it compared to the original toy (which has so much gut overhang smaller figures can use his chest for an umbrella). Moreso than PotP managed.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:And the small tail really makes for pathetic back kibble.
That, I'll agree on; I think PotP did better there. I would like it to be longer, and jointed so he can aim the spikes in dino mode.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He is just an eye-sore, like Slug, except worse.
I personally think he looks nice. Don't own Slug, but I do wish his tail had been dealt with the same way as PotP. Although at least unlike PotP he has his wings?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:3) his sword is hilariously short, really does not match the robot size(s).
I wouldn't say hilariously, I think it makes a decent shortsword for him. And I like that he can dip his wrists to point it.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am more forgiving of the Core because it is only tiny, but a full on leader, I really wish they had tried to fix his proportions instead of highlighting them.
I feel like they did fix them as much as possible for a retail figure, while keeping him on par with the other SS86 Dinobots size-wise. And from what I've seen, even expensive not-MP figures seem to struggle with full fixing the proportions, so...
Mind you, I'm not super-bothered by kinda weird proportions on Transformers to begin with, as long as they don't get in the way play-wise.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, Stegosaurs are my favorite dinosaur, so it extra hurts to see one butchered this badly.
Ahhhhhhhh. It does hurt to see a favorite butchered. I feel some of the butchery is kinda baked into the G1 design (both in the outdated dino image and in the basic transformation layout), but that probably doesn't do much for your pain.
At least he's got the best articulation of any official G1-based Snarl to date, including an articulated mouth in stegosaur mode?
Re: Seibertron's 2023 Year End Review: Best Transformers Toys and Media (2175506)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 19th, 2024 @ 7:19am CST
Let me put it this way: Fall of Cybertron and Cyberverse did him right, especially FOC. AOE also kinda did him right by the stego and robot designs as well, minus the obvious wonky robot arm-ticulation.

SS86 Snarl very clearly takes many steps back, butchers the Stego mode, and just does not have the presence, feeling more wonky generic than stego brute.
Re: Seibertron's 2023 Year End Review: Best Transformers Toys and Media (2175532)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 19th, 2024 @ 2:02pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Let me put it this way: Fall of Cybertron and Cyberverse did him right, especially FOC. AOE also kinda did him right by the stego and robot designs as well, minus the obvious wonky robot arm-ticulation.
FoC doesn't really count, because the FoC design has never been rendered by HasTak as a transforming toy. The Cyberverse cartoon design looks nice, but do you really feel the toy did him right? I mean, I guess the stegosaurus mode is done well, but the robot mode doesn't live up to the on-screen version. AoE, I'll give you.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:SS86 Snarl very clearly takes many steps back,
Does he really, for a more directly G1 version? Aside from the tail, I feel like he improves the proportions a lot compared to both the original toy and the Power of the Primes one.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:butchers the Stego mode
Aside from the tail (which is disappointing), it's no more "butchered" than Grimlock or Sludge, and is also the most articulated it's ever been by a country mile.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:and just does not have the presence, feeling more wonky generic than stego brute.
He's not as imposing as he'd be with a full-sized tail, but "wonky generic" is going way too far IMO; I think he's still got plenty of presence.

But of course, this is all just words.

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