Previously Leaked Hound Might be Coming in a Gen Selects Multipack

Even now, three years after Kingdom, Hasbro just couldn't resist giving us yet another release of that Earthrise Wheeljack mold, as if we haven't already had plenty of releases that shelfwarmed to here and back.

Worth noting that's the same product code as the Autobot multipack listing we got back in August, so that's seemingly the same set as this and there's still a 3-pack who's contents are a mystery.

Well I definitely won't be getting this Hound then. I have all the other ones. I hate these multi-packs. I'll stick with the siege mold.

Unless the Hound included in that pack is a genuine new mold, that set will be an easy pass for me.

Still, for all of those who have missed out on at least 2 or 3 of the other included toys, this set will certainly be worth it.

The only one I'd really want from the set is sunstreaker
I'm fine with siege Hound
Don't really care about trailbreaker I have Hoist and like him better
And I don't really like that wheeljack. I was tempted with bee movie wheeljack but im holding out hope a Prime version of the character is released in a few years

-Kanrabat- wrote:Unless the Hound included in that pack is a genuine new mold, that set will be an easy pass for me.

Still, for all of those who have missed out on at least 2 or 3 of the other included toys, this set will certainly be worth it.

JTPrime says Hound should be the same Earth mode figure from the cancelled Target two-pack as in the render posted. Pretty sure that's expected to be retooling of Siege rather than completely new.

I'm thrilled to be getting a proper Hound even if I'm not thrilled about the release, since I have the others. I know a lot of people missed out on Sunstreaker in particular, and he had opportunities for improvement, so maybe that will be justified. There could be other minor variations, like opaque windows (for a cartoon look, like with SS86 and BB re-releases) or toy decals (like the last five-pack giftset of the Stunticons.) I've doubled up on a lot of G1 figures recently, so maybe I'll find someone who wants an incomplete set of G1 updates.

Dammit, I was actually looking forward to this one. I don't need all five of those figures.

Sigh, I really don't want to pay $120+ just to get a CHUG version of G1 Hound.

If the price is right and there's some effort put into it, this might be the best-selling Generations Selects release to date. If Hasbro follows the trend of removing the clear plastic then Jazz will be a huge improvement. The other three need to include proper weapons and their extra accessories from the bonus pack properly painted to be worthwhile.

Spider5800 wrote:Dammit, I was actually looking forward to this one. I don't need all five of those figures.

Sigh, I really don't want to pay $120+ just to get a CHUG version of G1 Hound.

You could sell off the others. Or maybe find someone here to split the set and share the cost.

I'm happy to take Trailbreaker off someone's hands ... as long as you don't try to stooge me, the conversion rate will be painful enough.

At least these will sell unlike all the Disney merchandise crowding Disney discount warehouses nationwide.

Good. Now Hatchet existing with Hound when?

Quantum Surge wrote:Good. Now Hatchet existing with Hound when?

Maybe never

Ouch, yeah, seeing as I already have gotten the rest of these figures separately, I guess I'm gonna have to hope ol' Hound gets rereleased somewhere else down the line, or probably when he gets another new mold. I already really enjoy this retool thanks to Detritus, but I definitely don't need everything else this multipack is offering just to get the guy who was supposed to have it first!

Ouch, this is a five pack now?!
IDK, I just don't need another Jazz or Wheeljack, and in truth I could probably do without Trailbreaker since I've got Hoist. I just though since he appeared in a few episodes he'd be neat to have but I'm running out of room quite fast. And I'm honestly not totally digging that Hound, feels a bit too light in color for starters and it's not quite as "Hound" to me.

I'll probably just pass.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Ouch, this is a five pack now?!
IDK, I just don't need another Jazz or Wheeljack, and in truth I could probably do without Trailbreaker since I've got Hoist. I just though since he appeared in a few episodes he'd be neat to have but I'm running out of room quite fast. And I'm honestly not totally digging that Hound, feels a bit too light in color for starters and it's not quite as "Hound" to me.

I'll probably just pass.

I have them all (except for Hound obviously) and I DESPISE Legacy Detritus. Detritus is one of the worst repaint/remold I've ever seen. They actually REMOVED parts from Siege Hound and made him more hollow and cheap. The bot looks like some AliExpress KO and that jeep is just sad looking. I never bought that aptly named Detritus.

That pass is not just easy for me, it's mandatory.

I'm looking forward to this set just for Sunstreaker alone.
Since I'm not a huge fan of a lot of the Autobot characters, my critiques are usually more tame because I just don't care as much.
While this new Hound probably could and should be better, what's seen in the image is definitely good enough for me.
Like Sunstreaker, I never saw Trailbreaker, and I actually like his design more than Hoist's, on top of being a figure that will add a little visual variety to the shelf.
As a couple others have mentioned, if Wheeljack and Jazz are made with all solid plastic, that's a win. If this pans-out, I have a plan for a diorama where the current versions of these two may be disassembled, customized, and used as destroyed, random bots; unfortunate victims of Tarn and Jhiaxus teaming-up and going on a rampage.

I'm a little surprised that Wheeljack and Jazz have been included over others that were past exclusives like Sideswipe, Bluestreak, or even Red Alert. But this set does tell us that Hastak is aware of and/or heard enough chatter about those difficult-to-find ER waves. And I can appreciate that.
Even if these figures end up having clear plastic, I'm still in for this set.
I'm so close to retiring from the collecting game that I don't expect to see new versions of any of these characters before I bow-out. I think it's fair to say that almost all of the recent and semi-recent figures of G1 characters are very close to if not definitive versions.
Whatever small improvements could possibly be made to most of these probably won't be worth the price increase 3-5 years from now anyway.

I have no strong opinions either way because there are not in my range of collection. However I am glad the Earth mode Hound is getting some sort of release. Seems like the cancellation of the Buzzworthy line was probably put in place a while ago. ER Sunstresker, and Trailbreaker were hard to find,.so that's good for fans who missed out, but Wheeljack and SS86 Jazz were in a abundance. The bad thing is that this could have been a SS86 set and get a lot of characters that had brief appearances in the film, but Trailbreaker makes that not possible. So this is just a random set of 84 bits. 1 is new, 2 were previously hard to find, and 2 nobody really needs. I know they kind of do this on purpose with multipacks. Putting a couple gems in with common stuff, but it still doesn't make it any less frustrating for collectors.

This will probably be on Pulse for around $125 USD. Most fans will probably wait for a sale, or be willing to pay $30 or even $40 from the sellers that split them up on eBay as opposed to paying the full 125

Really wasnt fussed about hound, classics is still the go to but if sunstreakers yellows are done right then I might pick this set up. I need jazz anyaways, trailbreaker is fine for something to repaint into another diaclone color and wheeljack is...really, really unwanted.

I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Like Sunstreaker, I never saw Trailbreaker, and I actually like his design more than Hoist's, on top of being a figure that will add a little visual variety to the shelf.

That's another reason why I wanted Trailbreaker, to add a bit of variety to the shelf in a sea of red and white bots. So far I only have Brawn, Cosmos, Hoist and Tracks to beak up all that sameness. I just didn't want him badly enough to pay full price.

I do wonder why they chose a 5-pk bundle though, they have to know that only 1-2 are going to appeal to the masses. That said, I assume they will be slight different deco like the blue windowed CliffJumper etc.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm so close to retiring from the collecting game that I don't expect to see new versions of any of these characters before I bow-out. I think it's fair to say that almost all of the recent and semi-recent figures of G1 characters are very close to if not definitive versions.
Whatever small improvements could possibly be made to most of these probably won't be worth the price increase 3-5 years from now anyway.

I'm pretty close to this point as well, and is one reason why I wanted a few Bots done in a timely manner as in real soon.

Till-all-R1 wrote:That's another reason why I wanted Trailbreaker, to add a bit of variety to the shelf in a sea of red and white bots. So far I only have Brawn, Cosmos, Hoist and Tracks to beak up all that sameness. I just didn't want him badly enough to pay full price.

Agreed... Especially in my case, I'm going to have the mini bots on their own shelf. So right now it's really only Grapple and Hoist that give a visual break to all of the white and red.
Sunstreaker, Trailbreaker and Hound will all help a bit.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I do wonder why they chose a 5-pk bundle though, they have to know that only 1-2 are going to appeal to the masses. That said, I assume they will be slight different deco like the blue windowed CliffJumper etc.

I've wondered this as well; For a while now I've thought that even leader class figures can be a tough sell. Even for some collectors. But for the average kid or parent, dropping $55+ for one toy... That's steep.
And this set will have to be at least $100, and possibly a lot more depending on what's included (even before tax). Other than solid plastic and painted windows, I don't think these need much altered in terms of the deco.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm pretty close to this point as well, and is one reason why I wanted a few Bots done in a timely manner as in real soon.

I said a while back that if Hastak wants much more of my money, they are going to need to keep some G1 characters in the mix, and push those out sooner than later.
For a while now all I've really had on my want list was the 5 main Dinobots and the 3 main Insecticons. So everything else has been icing.
Sure, there are a few more I'd like to have, but I'm not real worried either way. My plan after this year is to keep an eye and ear out, but I'll essentially be done after this year.
I will be very interested to see what Hastak does for the 40th Anniversary of the '86 movie in 2026. But I'm committing to that being the last year that I'll buy any TF.
I've already been surprised at how much I am going to get this year, but I'm assuming and hoping that 2025 will basically be a year-long hiatus.
This is the most materialistic thing in my life, and I'm pretty ready for it to be over.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I do wonder why they chose a 5-pk bundle though, they have to know that only 1-2 are going to appeal to the masses. That said, I assume they will be slight different deco like the blue windowed CliffJumper etc.

I've wondered this as well; For a while now I've thought that even leader class figures can be a tough sell. Even for some collectors. But for the average kid or parent, dropping $55+ for one toy... That's steep.
And this set will have to be at least $100, and possibly a lot more depending on what's included (even before tax). Other than solid plastic and painted windows, I don't think these need much altered in terms of the deco.

But that's just it: this pack isn't intended for "the masses." It's likely to be an online and fan-channel exclusive. It's not targeting the "average kid or parent" because it won't be available widely at major retailers. Points of comparison are the Studio Series four- and five-packs, and the Menasor gift set. I know the last one did go on sale, but all of those moved pretty quickly.

The Generations line is designed to appeal to traditional and fandom consumers, but that doesn't mean every release is equally dependent on both of those markets.

If it's part of a set, then it's an easy pass. I'm fine with the old Henkei mold.

Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Worth noting that's the same product code as the Autobot multipack listing we got back in August, so that's seemingly the same set as this and there's still a 3-pack who's contents are a mystery.

I am now hoping that 3-pack is a SS Dreads pack

o.supreme wrote:This will probably be on Pulse for around $125 USD. Most fans will probably wait for a sale, or be willing to pay $30 or even $40 from the sellers that split them up on eBay as opposed to paying the full 125

I'm hoping they do Target pricing which was basically buy 3 get one free. That would put the price closer to $100.

o.supreme wrote:

Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

Not even SS86?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

Not even SS86?

The closest they've come is SS86 Perceptor into Legacy Evolution Magnificus.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

Not even SS86?

The closest they've come is SS86 Perceptor into Legacy Evolution Magnificus.

Emerje

I can't believe I forgot that one.
So that mean any SS86 can be "selected." But maybe not those with licenced vehicle modes.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

Not even SS86?

The closest they've come is SS86 Perceptor into Legacy Evolution Magnificus.

Emerje

I can't believe I forgot that one.
So that mean any SS86 can be "selected." But maybe not those with licenced vehicle modes.

Probably. This 5 pack includes SS86 Jazz so they aren't against using SS86 molds at least, they just wont package them as such.

Emerje

o.supreme wrote:

Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.

Coptur wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.

But again...

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

Coptur wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.

But again...

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

We've had multiple Studio Series molds in the specialty sub lines, including Magnificus, Jackpot, and BB Arcee. Based on the product listing this won't have SS86 on the box, but it could be Legacy or generic Generations. Meanwhile, the inside of the box can contain whatever Hasbro wants it to, and it could easily be in the spirit of SS86 even if it doesn't have the branding. I think we're all getting a little precious about marketing labels.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Coptur wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.

But again...

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

We've had multiple Studio Series molds in the specialty sub lines, including Magnificus, Jackpot, and BB Arcee. Based on the product listing this won't have SS86 on the box, but it could be Legacy or generic Generations. Meanwhile, the inside of the box can contain whatever Hasbro wants it to, and it could easily be in the spirit of SS86 even if it doesn't have the branding. I think we're all getting a little precious about marketing labels.

If it's not going to be labeled Studio Series 86, chances are high its contents aren't going to be in the vein of Studio Series 86.

Why are you so insistent on even wanting a dead Trailbreaker, anyway?

Sabrblade wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Coptur wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Blackstreak wrote:I can see this multi-pack being from the Studio Series '86 toyline.

Trailbreaker wasn't in TF:TM.

well seeing as they've introduced the idea of concept designs being in the toylines.

this could be 'dead' Trailbreaker from the TF:TM storyboards.

But again...

Emerje wrote:And Selects doesn't do Studio Series.

Emerje

We've had multiple Studio Series molds in the specialty sub lines, including Magnificus, Jackpot, and BB Arcee. Based on the product listing this won't have SS86 on the box, but it could be Legacy or generic Generations. Meanwhile, the inside of the box can contain whatever Hasbro wants it to, and it could easily be in the spirit of SS86 even if it doesn't have the branding. I think we're all getting a little precious about marketing labels.

If it's not going to be labeled Studio Series 86, chances are high its contents aren't going to be in the vein of Studio Series 86.

Why are you so insistent on even wanting a dead Trailbreaker, anyway?

I personally don't want one and I don't think we'll get one. I just don't think whether it's SS86 or Legacy or a plain cardboard box matters. Assuming the rumors hold up, and they're reliable, the most likely outcomes are either:
1) Opaque windows a la the SS86 Bumblebee and Kup releases (and also dead Prowl and Ironhide), in which case this set will be a nice companion to those, or
2) Some other kind of redeco like toy designs, like the Menasor gift pack

I don't think either are more or less likely based on which molds or product codes are used. Or maybe it'll be something else entirely. We're all grasping at straws, and speculation can be fun, but I don't think there's any evidence to rule anything in or out.

^ Sorry 'bout that "insistent" part. I thought I was talking to the same user as before.

Sabrblade wrote:^ Sorry 'bout that "insistent" part. I thought I was talking to the same user as before.

No worries, everyone's excited about the five pack here. I'll find some chill once it finally comes out.

Sabrblade wrote:Even now, three years after Kingdom, Hasbro just couldn't resist giving us yet another release of that Earthrise Wheeljack mold, as if we haven't already had plenty of releases that shelfwarmed to here and back.

Somebody at Hasbro freakin LOVES Wheeljack. Find someone who loves you like whoever it is at Hasbro that loves Wheeljack.

^ . That is a nice sentiment. However I don't think personal like/dislike of a character would override good business decisions (I know Hasbro isn't often known for those lately but...) I know its often *debunked* that later releases are not just extra units that were never sold, but in this case you really have to wonder. Same goes for SS86 Jazz. There's really no other reason why you would bring those 2 back. Sure maybe much of what was sold to retail finally got clearenced out, or send to discount chains. But what if Hasbro had several thousand that were manufactured, but just never ordered by a retailer? This would certainly be a good way to get them out of whatever where house they were in. All Companies hate old product sitting around.

I thought the rumour was they would be solid plastic, not 1 for 1 re-releases. Regular re-releases of those figures is going to dampen my enthusiasm. I have all those guys, just need the Hound - but if yhey're in 'cartoon colors' which Hound is supposed to be, then I can make a determination as to which ones to use as my 'main' version.

Part of the reason I said the above is because there reaslly is zero reason to be releasing that Wheeljack again, particularly with the Legacy Origin version coming.

sol magnus wrote:I thought the rumour was they would be solid plastic, not 1 for 1 re-releases. Regular re-releases of those figures is going to dampen my enthusiasm. I have all those guys, just need the Hound - but if yhey're in 'cartoon colors' which Hound is supposed to be, then I can make a determination as to which ones to use as my 'main' version.

Part of the reason I said the above is because there reaslly is zero reason to be releasing that Wheeljack again, particularly with the Legacy Origin version coming.

I don't believe they've done any box sets that were just straight repacks of of the normal retail figures. The three movie box sets had color adjustments (Devastator even added dirt) and the Stunticons used toy colors. I think it's safe to say every figure in this set will be different from the retail versions in some way, either a lot or a little.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:I thought the rumour was they would be solid plastic, not 1 for 1 re-releases. Regular re-releases of those figures is going to dampen my enthusiasm. I have all those guys, just need the Hound - but if yhey're in 'cartoon colors' which Hound is supposed to be, then I can make a determination as to which ones to use as my 'main' version.

Part of the reason I said the above is because there reaslly is zero reason to be releasing that Wheeljack again, particularly with the Legacy Origin version coming.

I don't believe they've done any box sets that were just straight repacks of of the normal retail figures. The three movie box sets had color adjustments (Devastator even added dirt) and the Stunticons used toy colors. I think it's safe to say every figure in this set will be different from the retail versions in some way, either a lot or a little.

Emerje

As much as I want these to be just screen accurate with all solid plastic, being the 40th anniversary, I could see these having extra paint apps to more closely match the original toy versions.
This isn’t what I want, but for some this could make Wheeljack, Jazz, and therefore the entire set, more enticing.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:I thought the rumour was they would be solid plastic, not 1 for 1 re-releases. Regular re-releases of those figures is going to dampen my enthusiasm. I have all those guys, just need the Hound - but if yhey're in 'cartoon colors' which Hound is supposed to be, then I can make a determination as to which ones to use as my 'main' version.

Part of the reason I said the above is because there reaslly is zero reason to be releasing that Wheeljack again, particularly with the Legacy Origin version coming.

I don't believe they've done any box sets that were just straight repacks of of the normal retail figures. The three movie box sets had color adjustments (Devastator even added dirt) and the Stunticons used toy colors. I think it's safe to say every figure in this set will be different from the retail versions in some way, either a lot or a little.

Emerje

As much as I want these to be just screen accurate with all solid plastic, being the 40th anniversary, I could see these having extra paint apps to more closely match the original toy versions.
This isn’t what I want, but for some this could make Wheeljack, Jazz, and therefore the entire set, more enticing.

Nothing would surprise, this could be the Autobot answer to the Stunticon set.

You know, it would be super wrong, but after they eventually do Deluxe Windcharger they should do a box set of Earthrise Prime with Trailer, SS86 Jazz, Kingdom Sideswipe, Kingdom Mirage and Windcharger with vehicle modes done up in Stunticon colors, but still retain mostly normal Autobot colors in bot mode since they can't exactly make those bots look like the characters they're pretending to be. I know it's dumb, but I kinda want it.

Emerje

According to the Trailbreaker I saw, we're definitely getting solid plastic Cartoon-esque models this time, so there's the value in that pack for me - but the set is gonna be 110 bucks.

Supposedly the figure seen on the left in this photo is the new Trailbreaker for the Autobot 5-pack.
Could be legit, and from what I can see this looks good.

I'm much more interested in Sunstreaker and Jazz, if they're done well I'll get the set.

We thank Sowndwave76 for letting us know of an image that popped up online as a leak. It is an image of Earthrise Trailbreaker in toon colours with no more use of clear plastic. This would be from the upcoming Autobot 5 pack within the Generations Selects line, the same 5 pack which includes Hound. That means that the other figures in the pack, like Sunstreaker and Wheeljack, would also be in toon colours. Let us know if this news helps lessen the blow of buying the 5 pack for Hound.

sol magnus wrote:According to the Trailbreaker I saw, we're definitely getting solid plastic Cartoon-esque models this time, so there's the value in that pack for me - but the set is gonna be 110 bucks.

A $15 savings, I'm fine with that.

Emerje

The pack should be cheaper IMO, especially if they're going to inflict the smegging Happy Meal toy windows on the figures.

Ugh, I guess the only good thing about this pack is that the people who for some reason like their Transformers to look like cheap Happy Meal toys might unload their good Trailbreakers and Sunstreakers.