TakaraTomy Unite Warriors Baldigus (RiD Ruination) Box revealed

That's some gorgeous freakin' art!

this will be mine. oh yaaash. will be my bruticus stand-in, the fact they're using the updated hands and feet tipped the scales in its favour

That is some really nice boxart. All of the UW sets have had great artwork

*Sobs Uncontrollably* Why Takara? Why do you make so many beautiful things that are so expensive? On a side note, do you guys think I should get this? I already have CW Bruticus, but I love the Decepticon Commandos..Any ideas?

I'm really tempted but it's so much money on molds I already have. I just got Liokeiser and I pre-ordered Megatronia so I'm pretty good on Decepticon combiners for now.

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm really tempted but it's so much money on molds I already have. I just got Liokeiser and I pre-ordered Megatronia so I'm pretty good on Decepticon combiners for now.

My thoughts exactly. I really think this set looks good, but I'm not too keen on buying it for the exact reasons you listed. I hope TT does more UW sets though as I'll certainly remain interested and will buy what I like, but coming after Computron and MP Thrust and Soundwave's reissue, and before Megatronia, I decided to sit Baldigus out for the cost.

Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but there hasn't been any info on the fiction for this set yet, right? So, we don't know any teaser info for who or what would possibly be coming next at this time, do we?

Dagon wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:So, we don't know any teaser info for who or what would possibly be coming next at this time, do we?

I for one am hoping and praying for a (properly done) UW Liokaiser....

nycPrime wrote:

Dagon wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:So, we don't know any teaser info for who or what would possibly be coming next at this time, do we?

I for one am hoping and praying for a (properly done) UW Liokaiser....

Me too, but I think that's asking for a whole lot, as it would require new molds. I know UW has produced new molds, and modified existant ones a whole lot, but this would be asking them to develop a two-deluxe torso, and that's a lot of design and development. I'd love to see it too, but I think it may be asking a little too much.

Dagon wrote:

nycPrime wrote:

Dagon wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:So, we don't know any teaser info for who or what would possibly be coming next at this time, do we?

I for one am hoping and praying for a (properly done) UW Liokaiser....

Me too, but I think that's asking for a whole lot, as it would require new molds. I know UW has produced new molds, and modified existant ones a whole lot, but this would be asking them to develop a two-deluxe torso, and that's a lot of design and development. I'd love to see it too, but I think it may be asking a little too much.

Yep I agree. To be honest, I'd even take a UW Liokaiser with Leozack as the torso in the Silverbolt mold. But a few folks here have theorized that TT would unlikely make that sort of move. I do find it ironic that it's Hasbro that would first release a character based on Japanese G1 material, and not TT. My only hope that TT will eventually do it.

nycPrime wrote: I do find it ironic that it's Hasbro that would first release a character based on Japanese G1 material, and not TT. My only hope that TT will eventually do it.

The irony goes both ways. Takara has been going all out on making some fo their toys as IDW specific as possible, like Legends Ultra Magnus and Skids, which is odd since the comics staring them arent even translated yet.

But I dont really think there is as much irony with Hasbro. They had the molds and wondered what other thing they could do to get the mileage out of them. And since Liokaiser had never been released by them (same with G2 Motormaster), they thought it would be a fun and easy way to repackage the molds.

Kurona wrote:With still around four months to go until release, TakaraTomy's website has updated their listing for the upcoming UW-EX Baldigus - RiD Ruination - with an image of the packaging he comes in. With this packaging, we also now know the full title of the figure - Evil Destronger Combiner Combatron Baldigus. Check out the boxart below and leave a comment in the energon pub!

A couple things I want to note:

1) The English title is... odd. But it does show he's independent of either Autobot or Decepticon. "Evil Destronger" refers to the original faction of Car Robots, which became the RiD Predacons, while "Combatron" is the proper sub-group, aka Commandos. While "Combatron" is the Japanese name for the Combaticons, the name was never used as in English, so there's no real overlap.
2) The English title is completely made up, as he retains his original title as "Combat Specialist" in Japanese.
3) The boxart shows an army base, a call back to the place of their birth in the Car Robots anime.

I wish I could walk into a TJ Maxx and find this for 40 bucks, but much as I want it, I'm not paying import prices for something I essentially already have.

I would've been happy if they just redecoed the Silverbolt mold as Leozack and added two ports to attach the Blackjack mold as Jallguar.

RiddlerJ wrote:I would've been happy if they just redecoed the Silverbolt mold as Leozack and added two ports to attach the Blackjack mold as Jallguar.

Actually I find this a much more likely possibility than Takara developing a 2 deluxe torso.

Dagon wrote:Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but there hasn't been any info on the fiction for this set yet, right? So, we don't know any teaser info for who or what would possibly be coming next at this time, do we?

All we know is the teaser we got at the end of the Megatronia comic. Apparently they're working for Unicron, I'm guessing to come collect Galvatron's debt for giving him yet another chance as a combiner.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Dagon wrote:Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but there hasn't been any info on the fiction for this set yet, right? So, we don't know any teaser info for who or what would possibly be coming next at this time, do we?

All we know is the teaser we got at the end of the Megatronia comic. Apparently they're working for Unicron, I'm guessing to come collect Galvatron's debt for giving him yet another chance as a combiner.

Emerje

I meant as in teases of whatever set would be coming next,not anything specific to these guys. I guess not though.

Dagon wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Dagon wrote:Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but there hasn't been any info on the fiction for this set yet, right? So, we don't know any teaser info for who or what would possibly be coming next at this time, do we?

All we know is the teaser we got at the end of the Megatronia comic. Apparently they're working for Unicron, I'm guessing to come collect Galvatron's debt for giving him yet another chance as a combiner.

Emerje

I meant as in teases of whatever set would be coming next,not anything specific to these guys. I guess not though.

The comic for Baldigus may provide teasers like Lynx Master's and Megatonia's have done.

Fellow Seibertronians Black Hat and Cyberpath have pointed us towards the Takara Tomy Mall website, where the new Unite Warriors comic has been posted - featuring the continuation of the Unite Warriors storyline, by Hayato Sakamoto, and the arrival of Baldigus! We've downloaded, exported and mirrored the comic as images below (though obviously still in Japanese), for your viewing convenience, check it out!

Unicron's really in the business of Combiners now, isn't he? First Grand Galvatron, then the Megascream combiner in Deviations, and now he's upgrading Baldigus. Didn't quite think it was his thing.

No silhouettes at the end or anything. Unless there's something in the text it looks like Baldigus might just be the last Unite Warriors release.

There is a "To be continued" there though. Who knows? The combiner train may not be at its final destination yet. Maybe we'll see Liokaiser yet?

Also, did anyone else notice the Autobots were about to execute the Commandos? Not a very Autobot-y thing to do!

I'd like to see this translated.

It looks like the whole RID/CR Scourge/Black Convoy and Grand Scourge thing got a lot more confusing

That was an action packed read that I couldn't actually read! I love those crazy comics

Love the giant combiner port on Unicron's head.

RiddlerJ wrote:Love the giant combiner port on Unicron's head.

I'm guessing the Takara Legends release of Unicron will also continue the comic?

I think Roller and Prime made up, somewhat.

Also, I think the "teaser" in this one was supposed to be Scourge showing up.

Man, I need a translation. That was intense

itscramtastic wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Love the giant combiner port on Unicron's head.

I'm guessing the Takara Legends release of Unicron will also continue the comic?

They are releasing Unicron?

But yeah that combiner port was my favourite part. It looked like it was made of raw energon. And plugging onto that planet reminds me of his look in that old G1 Unicron toy where he really is a head atop of a big planet ball.

It seems...
Black Convoy finally saw Baldigus Reformatted/Upgraded
Dolrailer has a unicron symbol, and that means....

Oh right, in the middle of the End of the pages there were Technobots appeared as a cameo

Black Hat wrote:There is a "To be continued" there though. Who knows? The combiner train may not be at its final destination yet. Maybe we'll see Liokaiser yet?

Also, did anyone else notice the Autobots were about to execute the Commandos? Not a very Autobot-y thing to do!

I guess it's either Liokaiser or Unicron (possibly, due to the combiner peg of his head or something else (still Black Convoy)

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Love the giant combiner port on Unicron's head.

I'm guessing the Takara Legends release of Unicron will also continue the comic?

They are releasing Unicron?

But yeah that combiner port was my favourite part. It looked like it was made of raw energon. And plugging onto that planet reminds me of his look in that old G1 Unicron toy where he really is a head atop of a big planet ball.

I figured they are due to the "Platinum" re-release, and with him all over the place in their comics why wouldn't they? Takara likes money.

I have no idea though. Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeems like it?

Holy cow, this comic is amazing!! Backstory references to Car Robots, Kiss Players Position/15 Go! Go!, The Battle of the Star Gate, and more!

Allow me to try to clear up some confusion regarding the final panels at the end. Grand Scourge shows up wearing a Combatron symbol and when Baldigus sees him, he most likely mistakes Grand Scourge for his old boss Black Convoy.

As to why Grand Scourge is wearing a Combatron symbol, his toy came with several insignia decals, which included one with a Combatron symbol that he could wear in homage to Car Robots Black Convoy. For an in-fiction reason, I guess Grand Scourge can simply change his symbols to look like whatever he wants them to. After all, he is a guy that can cross dimensions and such. Maybe he simply has symbol-changing powers too. As to why he chose to wear the Combatron symbol, maybe he found out about CR Black Convoy's existence and similar appearance to himself, and learned about Baldigus having appeared in this comic's events, and so decided to wear the Combatron symbol so as to trick Baldigus into thinking that Grand Scourge is Black Convoy so that Grand Scourge can use Baldigus for his own purpose, whatever that may entail.

Sabrblade wrote:Holy cow, this comic is amazing!! Backstory references to Car Robots, Kiss Players Position/15 Go! Go!, The Battle of the Star Gate, and more!

Allow me to try to clear up some confusion regarding the final panels at the end. Grand Scourge shows up wearing a Combatron symbol and when Baldigus sees him, he most likely mistakes Grand Scourge for his old boss Black Convoy.

As to why Grand Scourge is wearing a Combatron symbol, his toy came with several insignia decals, which included one with a Combatron symbol that he could wear in homage to Car Robots Black Convoy. For an in-fiction reason, I guess Grand Scourge can simply change his symbols to look like whatever he wants them to. After all, he is a guy that can cross dimensions and such. Maybe he simply has symbol-changing powers too. As to why he chose to wear the Combatron symbol, maybe he found out about CR Black Convoy's existence and similar appearance to himself, and learned about Baldigus having appeared in this comic's events, and so decided to wear the Combatron symbol so as to trick Baldigus into thinking that Grand Scourge is Black Convoy so that Grand Scourge can use Baldigus for his own purpose, whatever that may entail.

Yeah, I thought that was Grand Scourge. Makes sense, he came out as part of the same line (kinda)

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Love the giant combiner port on Unicron's head.

I'm guessing the Takara Legends release of Unicron will also continue the comic?

They are releasing Unicron?

But yeah that combiner port was my favourite part. It looked like it was made of raw energon. And plugging onto that planet reminds me of his look in that old G1 Unicron toy where he really is a head atop of a big planet ball.

I figured they are due to the "Platinum" re-release, and with him all over the place in their comics why wouldn't they? Takara likes money.

I have no idea though. Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeems like it?

What happens in the Platinum line doesn't affect or reflect whatever Takara does with their own lines.

For me one of the most frustrating things about collecting transformers is the lack of equality, especially when it comes to numbered series. Seems like the numbers never end evenly. I know since the very beginning Autobots (though generally smaller and weaker) have outnumbered the larger/fewer Decepticons. If Baldigus were to be the last, that would again leave an unbalance (5 good and 6 bad), but overall and when combined with all other CW, subscription services & exclusives it would be an even 20 (10 and 10), though Devastators disproportionate size would tip the balance slightly in favor of the Decepticons. So if this were truly *the end* of UW I guess I would be ok, though there is a lot of untapped potential. If, as some speculate, we start getting beast combiners near the end of 2017 with whatever line happens after TR ends, perhaps Takara will pick up the line again at that time. An optimum solution would be for TT to release a UW Raiden to scale with Devastator, but then again if a new Omega Supreme Titan class figure is ever made, it will probably be in the 18 inch range, made as Devastators true rival.

Well imagine that, Grand Scourge showed up just like I said he would all along. People said there was no chance since he's an e-Hobby exclusive and his comic was written by someone else so his ability to jump through universes wouldn't apply and it's a different Scourge anyway. Turns out I was right all along.

Interesting that Grand Scourge is suddenly sporting a Combatron symbol (which DID come with the figure). Let's see if Deadlock chases him into this story, too.

Emerje

Although the japanese g1-verse is very confusing it's a lot of fun reading it all tie-in.

Thanks to sabrblade for helping explain the last few panels.

I hope Black Convoy/Scourge and Grand Scourge are kept separate characters but having said that it would explain why Black Convoy/Scourge wasn't present during the combatron execution pages


I also don't want the power of Grand Scourge to nerf that of Unicron...behave takaratomy

Coptur wrote:Although the japanese g1-verse is very confusing it's a lot of fun reading it all tie-in.

Thanks to sabrblade for helping explain the last few panels.

I hope Black Convoy/Scourge and Grand Scourge are kept separate characters but having said that it would explain why Black Convoy/Scourge wasn't present during the combatron execution pages

In Black Convoy's Legends comic, he had escaped from jail into the Legends Universe, seeking help to break Gigatron out of prison.

Just to note that yet again, we still have no explanation for Ironhide and Ratchet being alive.

william-james88 wrote:Just to note that yet again, we still have no explanation for Ironhide and Ratchet being alive.

Correct.

Though, in fairness to Ironhide, he'd previously appeared alive in an e-HOBBY comic set after G-2, so his lacking an explanation for being alive has been in effect for a while now.

william-james88 wrote:Just to note that yet again, we still have no explanation for Ironhide and Ratchet being alive.

They willed themselves back to life because they saw their original toys and couldn't pass into the afterlife without getting better ones.

We really need a translation of this thing, badly. There are a couple of things people are saying about this comic that make it sound like it's altering longstanding perceptions that the fandom has held for quite awhile. Namely things about Galvatron II and about Grand Scourge.

Emerje wrote:Well imagine that, Grand Scourge showed up just like I said he would all along. People said there was no chance since he's an e-Hobby exclusive and his comic was written by someone else so his ability to jump through universes wouldn't apply and it's a different Scourge anyway. Turns out I was right all along.



Emerje

I've come to accept that the surest measure that something can and likely will happen is the degree to which the fandom is vocal about how it won't or can't happen. The greater certainty people have that something can't/won't, the more likely it is/will.

Anyway, I guess this comic addresses my question from yesterday about who or what set will come next . . . I guess? The answer is 'we don't know yet,' but apparently there's a to be continued in there, which means that the end may not be the end and

Sabrblade wrote:

Coptur wrote:Although the japanese g1-verse is very confusing it's a lot of fun reading it all tie-in.

Thanks to sabrblade for helping explain the last few panels.

I hope Black Convoy/Scourge and Grand Scourge are kept separate characters but having said that it would explain why Black Convoy/Scourge wasn't present during the combatron execution pages

In Black Convoy's Legends comic, he had escaped from jail into the Legends Universe, seeking help to break Gigatron out of prison.

Thanks for the info I've read up on it over on tfwiki

What's the theory with grand scourge and galvatron 2?

I'm real curious to see what Optimus and Roller have to say to one another. Or what Roller has to say to Optimus.

I'd pay real money if Wandering Roller's dialogue, if any, is made of the same beeps/whistles as R2D2 (ala original series)

Cobotron wrote:I'm real curious to see what Optimus and Roller have to say to one another. Or what Roller has to say to Optimus.

Me too. As you know, you and I are now grand galvaton twins

o.supreme wrote:I'd pay real money if Wandering Roller's dialogue, if any, is made of the same beeps/whistles as R2D2 (ala original series)

Wrong Roller.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'd pay real money if Wandering Roller's dialogue, if any, is made of the same beeps/whistles as R2D2 (ala original series)

Wrong Roller.

Which Roller is this then? IDW Roller? I thik thats now no longer relatable.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'd pay real money if Wandering Roller's dialogue, if any, is made of the same beeps/whistles as R2D2 (ala original series)

Wrong Roller.

Which Roller is this then? IDW Roller? I thik thats now no longer relatable.

It's IDW Roller, yes. If not the physically the same IDW Roller from the IDW comics proper, then it's another universe version of him, much like how TFSS Chromedome and Rewind were alternate universe versions of IDW Chromedome and Rewind.