TFCC 2013 Membership Incentive Figure Depthcharge Art

bvzxa wrote:

LiKwid wrote:

Wheeljack35 wrote:Well this is disappointing.It makes me NOT want to re-up on my membership

So you make that call based on a free figure? Puzzling....

I'll re up for this and the other tasty figures to come..

It's not "free", if you did not pay for said subscription to 6 15-page magazines, there would be no figure. Oldest sales trick in the book. at least the Hot Wheels Red Line Club admits to the "free" car never really being free, so I don't see the difference.

If they didn't offer an "incentive" (which it is) then people probably would laugh at the $65 or or $45 you spend for basically a shiny newsletter.

Also they don't use a totally new mold, it's a repaint or repaint/head swap. So really what it costs them to reproduce from the mold with a few minor changes actually doesn't hurt them at all.

I didn't join in 2011 because I did not like Rodimus Sideburn. So I missed a whole year and did not get the G2 Ramjet. So if he does not like what he sees he's smart not to re-up for early-inside information that would only be revealed within a few more days anyway.

Can't blame dude at all for the dislike.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Hold up. I think I found a small loophole. Remember how the subcribtion deadline for Runamuck was extended to around 20th March due to their systems crashing? So, say someone signed up on 18th march this year, and got a Runamuck. So it expires 18th March 2012 and he gets another Depthcharge?

Dayum, I should have thought of that before i eagerly signed up in January.

Vicalliose wrote:

gavinfuzzy wrote:Hold up. I think I found a small loophole. Remember how the subcribtion deadline for Runamuck was extended to around 20th March due to their systems crashing? So, say someone signed up on 18th march this year, and got a Runamuck. So it expires 18th March 2012 and he gets another Depthcharge?

Dayum, I should have thought of that before i eagerly signed up in January.

They added a month onto my subscription once due to an inconvenience. It doesn't work that way.

Anyway, I'm still not resigning myself to conformity. Y'all are just easily bought.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:Thats right buddy. You're a nonconformist, just like EVERYONE else.

Alpha Weltall wrote:This looks pretty decent and I wouldn't mind getting it at all.

However, I think that the Emperor Palpatine/Imperial Shuttle would make a much better Depthcharge. The white version would be very easy to work with and you could probably use the head from a BW Depthcharge. Not to mention it would be closer to the size of the Beast Wars toy too.

Vicalliose wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:Thats right buddy. You're a nonconformist, just like EVERYONE else.

I'm hardly a "nonconformist" in general, I won't lie. I'm just not tolerant of the club anymore. I was hoping they would die after this year's debacle, but it seems plenty of people are ready to jump back on the bandwagon after they showed off their exclusives.

Counterpunch wrote:Question: But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?

Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?

I mean, good on me. I have a group of figures who will welcome a new addition (after five years since Airrazor). But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?

Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?

Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?

I mean, good on me. I have a group of figures who will welcome a new addition (after five years since Airrazor). But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?

Answer: Because Depthcharge was a a cool character. Its like why are people excited about a classics breakdown when, A) the others aren't likely to see release (except for dragstrip who actually came out) And B) they can't combine. Combining is a pretty important part to the stunticons. They just want the bloody toy. What do you care?

Counterpunch wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?

Answer: Because Depthcharge was a a cool character. Its like why are people excited about a classics breakdown when, A) the others aren't likely to see release (except for dragstrip who actually came out) And B) they can't combine. Combining is a pretty important part to the stunticons. They just want the bloody toy. What do you care?

First off, your comparison does not work.

This is a BW character who has been given a non-beast alt. It would be like getting a Breakdown who turns into, oh let's say a woodpecker. Now you have exactly one G1 figure with a new beast alt mode. Give him a whole shelf to himself. The combination aspect has nothing to do with it.

Just "wanting the bloody toy" is a perfectly reasonable excuse. I just asked a question that was calling the Club's decision into question, not other people's personal tastes. So, do me a favor and get agro somewhere else.

xyl360 wrote:I guess if Hasbro/Takara can make Dark Steel (i.e. BW Quickstrike) then the club can make Depth Charge.

A lot of people dig on Depth Charge, so I can see why they picked him, especially given that this mold (and even its weapon in a way, given that a trident has more to do with the sea than the air) very much resembles Depth Charge.

Kibble wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I guess if Hasbro/Takara can make Dark Steel (i.e. BW Quickstrike) then the club can make Depth Charge.

A lot of people dig on Depth Charge, so I can see why they picked him, especially given that this mold (and even its weapon in a way, given that a trident has more to do with the sea than the air) very much resembles Depth Charge.

I don't think that they picked him is so much the issue, but more that he's THE incentive figure. Not much of an incentive to many, or dare I say most?

xyl360 wrote:I personally think it's refreshing to see a different line being focused on a bit, rather than rehashing the same G1 characters over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.

Sabrblade wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.

Yes, but neither are the same character as the RiD versions. Both of the Club/BotCon versions are G1 guys homaging the RiD characters.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I personally think it's refreshing to see a different line being focused on a bit, rather than rehashing the same G1 characters over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I guess I don't see it as them rehashing the same characters over and over again from G1 or anywhere else.

Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.

Air Razor was BW homage.

In fact, I don't think the club, minus their foray into Shattered Glass, has redone any characters that have been popularly done over and over from G1.

There giveaways previously were all new characters using Energon combiner limbs.

Runamuck and Runabout have only seen really two homages between them by HASBRO not the club, and those were pretty sucky toys (repaint of Armada Sideswipe, and a repaint of Legends Jazz).

Drift was Shattered Glass.

I'm just not seeing the club focus on G1 that you are, and certainly not in characters that have been rehashed over and over again. If it is G1, it's usually odd ball characters, or characters that they made up like the Star Wars Expanded Universe/Offscreen character pieces.

Overlord and Metalhawk? One release ever, and not even in the US market for G1? Not rehashed rehashes.

The rehashing is the in the club's Shattered Glass universe, which allows them to do easy repaints of existing characters often times without doing anything, but changing the colors.

I'm impressed that the club is going to try a subscription service. I hope it's affordable, and it would be nice to be able to be a part of it without having to ante up for the general membership? Or be able to choose to trade the general membership figure for one of the club subscription figures. I know, too difficult.

I just don't know that this subscription figure is going to be very popular, and that if they really wanted to win folks back into believing in them with the best free exclusive ever... well maybe it should have been a different choice. I think a SCOURGE repaint would have created a lot more interest from the fandom, and probably result in more memberships.

Again, I'm not sure how the subscription service works when compared with membership.

xyl360 wrote:I guess I'm just bored with the whole 'geewun' thing and seeing stuff like this (and even RiD Sideburn and Skybite, though I'm not an RiD fan) are a breath of fresh air to me.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.

Yes, but neither are the same character as the RiD versions. Both of the Club/BotCon versions are G1 guys homaging the RiD characters.

How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.

Counterpunch wrote:But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?

tigertracks 24 wrote:How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.

orangeitis wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.

By the magical system known as retconning.

It's simple. The universe that G1 took place in was never fully explored by G1 fiction. We never saw every single Transformer that existed in said universe. FunPub is taking this opportunity to fill those unexplored areas in with homages of characters which out-of-continuity made after G1 already finished. Nothing in G1 was harmed or altered(I assume), and it gives a nice little home to these homages.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.

By the magical system known as retconning.

It's simple. The universe that G1 took place in was never fully explored by G1 fiction. We never saw every single Transformer that existed in said universe. FunPub is taking this opportunity to fill those unexplored areas in with homages of characters which out-of-continuity made after G1 already finished. Nothing in G1 was harmed or altered(I assume), and it gives a nice little home to these homages.

Yeah, but a character in an explored section of G1 cannot pay homage to a character who comes later in time/contiuity unless they time travel that is what I am referring to.

The continuity for me is all muddled...

tigertracks 24 wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I guess I'm just bored with the whole 'geewun' thing and seeing stuff like this (and even RiD Sideburn and Skybite, though I'm not an RiD fan) are a breath of fresh air to me.

Bw even had G1 show up in it, so it seems to be an inescapable destiny.

xyl360 wrote:attempts to avoid alienating us die-hard fans that grew up on the franchise

orangeitis wrote:Yeah, I think that kinda stopped when they abandoned the original continuity.

orangeitis wrote:I personally think fans would be more than happy if they went on to tell the stories of new primes after Optimus/Rodimus and introduce totally new characters. They could still release new versions of old characters when plot permits(how they brought Optimus back in season 3, for instance)

orangeitis wrote:Buuut it's a mess of continuities now. Oh well, at least they're still robots that turn into things. That has always been the best thing about the franchise.

xyl360 wrote:I think they did that simply to keep from alienating the new generation(s) so they don't need to go back and watch a 1980's TV show and movie in order to get caught up with what the heck is going on.

xyl360 wrote:Now it's a new 'unified' continuity, meaning nothing created can blatantly contradict or conflict with the details written in Hasbro's new Transformers Unified Continuity Bible. That includes Prime and the video games, though that bible itself is based on G1 at its core, at least with regards to core characters and basic elements like Autobots, Decepticons and Cybertron. More specific details are pretty much up for grabs/individual writers' interpretations. Of course, that's also what I hate about it. It's essentially a stripped down re-boot of G1. In my mind it is neither inferior nor superior to G1, but just a derivative of it instead of something more original. It just doesn't offer anything new or very interesting for a fan like me, but I'm probably just being to picky.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Bw even had G1 show up in it, so it seems to be an inescapable destiny.

ssilipino wrote:=While I think it great they are pre-beasting more BW characters, especially Depth Charge, I really don't approve of the mold. Its small, doesn't off any sie comparison to the actual BW Depth Charge mold, minus the head and the trident.=

ssilipino wrote:But at least when G1 showed up in BW, it wasn't a homage, it WAS G1.

ssilipino wrote:While I think it great they are pre-beasting more BW characters, especially Depth Charge, I really don't approve of the mold. Its small, doesn't off any sie comparison to the actual BW Depth Charge mold, minus the head and the trident.

I had originally planned to transform Galaxy Force Soundwave into DOFP Depth Charge, mainly because a majority of the DOFP's set used Galaxy Force molds, and Soundwave has an appropriate head for Depth Charge. Also his chest piece is similar to the (generic) chest piece on the pre-BW body we can sort of see in "Deep Metal".

ssilipino wrote:I had also planned on repainting Galaxy Force Menasor into DOFP's Protoform-X. I felt he offers enough menacing features for him. Any comments?

xyl360 wrote:

ssilipino wrote:But at least when G1 showed up in BW, it wasn't a homage, it WAS G1.

EXACTLY !

ssilipino wrote:While I think it great they are pre-beasting more BW characters, especially Depth Charge, I really don't approve of the mold. Its small, doesn't off any sie comparison to the actual BW Depth Charge mold, minus the head and the trident.

I had originally planned to transform Galaxy Force Soundwave into DOFP Depth Charge, mainly because a majority of the DOFP's set used Galaxy Force molds, and Soundwave has an appropriate head for Depth Charge. Also his chest piece is similar to the (generic) chest piece on the pre-BW body we can sort of see in "Deep Metal".

I could totally see GF SW as a pre-BW DC .

ssilipino wrote:I had also planned on repainting Galaxy Force Menasor into DOFP's Protoform-X. I felt he offers enough menacing features for him. Any comments?

For Protoform-X, I actually just got a Hasbro Rampage (I use a Takara one to actually represent Rampage from the show) and removed all of his kibble. Based on the sillouette you see during the show of him on Cybertron, that's pretty much what he looks like. Just Rampage without the crab kibble. A LOT of the 'Cybertronian' Maximals and Predicons shown during BW and BM seemed to not really have alt modes at all. For those, I actually used a bunch of Action Masters. I just repainted them to make them match the color schemes/patterns I observed during the few occasions they were shown throughout the series (Action Master Bumblebee makes a great Cicadacon with some red and silver paint ).

Bounti76 wrote:I lost interest in the brand in the late 80s/early 90s, and only got re-interested again when the live-action movies came out. So I completely missed Beast Wars, RID, Unicron Trilogy, etc. For that, I'm mostly glad, since the Unicron Trilogy seems completely overloaded with characters and concepts. Too much to focus on. My major point in saying all that is that Beast Wars holds no interest for me, and thus nor does this Depthcharge. I AM however interested in some of the other characters they're going to be releasing for the Subscription service.

Bounti76 wrote:I'm TOTALLY over the moon that they're going to be releasing Slipstream as a remolded and repainted Prime FE Starscream. I love me some fembots, and I've always thought he had a really feminine body shape, so making Screamer's mold into a fembot just saves me the trouble I'm not so thrilled about the color choices they made for her (I'd always seen or imagined her with a G2 Ramjet deco) in Thundercracker blue, Hot Spot blue, silver and black, but I'll take what I can get with fembots.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I lost interest in the brand in the late 80s/early 90s, and only got re-interested again when the live-action movies came out. So I completely missed Beast Wars, RID, Unicron Trilogy, etc. For that, I'm mostly glad, since the Unicron Trilogy seems completely overloaded with characters and concepts. Too much to focus on. My major point in saying all that is that Beast Wars holds no interest for me, and thus nor does this Depthcharge. I AM however interested in some of the other characters they're going to be releasing for the Subscription service.

Fiction-wise, G1 seemed to have more characters than all of the Beast Era, RiD, and Unicron Trilogy shows combined.

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

Flux Convoy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

You should have checked more thoroughly. RID is a far flung continuation of G1. Brave Max is simply Fort Max.

Sabrblade wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

You should have checked more thoroughly. RID is a far flung continuation of G1. Brave Max is simply Fort Max.