TFCC exclusives SG Cyclonus 40% sold and Punch / Counterpunch 50% sold in first 24 hours

I'm pretty shocked by the sales numbers so far! I figured they'd go quick but not this quick.

Have they posted pictures of Punch/Counterpunch in robot mode yet?

Supreme Convoy wrote:Have they posted pictures of Punch/Counterpunch in robot mode yet?

Not yet.

I wish you could do a pick up at the actual club. Where they are located is only a few hours away and I have friends there as well..Would be nice to just be able to pick it up and see my buds too....Oh well..It's wierd how they don't offer combinable shipping..I would think that would be mandatory at most online retailers..Then again they are just now getting online registration for botcon

^Try Collecting Masters of the Universe Classics. If you have a subscription, but want to buy extras regularly you can't combine shipping, and that happens every month. Mattel is run by bad bad people.

Ordered 2 P/CP's and one Cyclonus. A couple of days earlier than I wanted to, but I don't want to miss out on these.

I have a feeling of concern over not seeing more than a possibly photo-shopped image of P/CP in vehicle mode and I was not thrilled about paying for a pre-order upfront. Neither feeling deterred me from ordering P/CP. Soon I will have an Idol of the greatest poster in Siebertron history. It shall have a position of prominence on my mantle of honor.

Protecticus Maximus wrote:I just joined the club before the deadline, and I only needed 1 Dion. But if the pre-orders sell out, and I don't preorder cyclonus and P/CP, does that mean that's it? Or will they produce a few afterwards? Cause I don't know if a "pre-order" means a figure or if it just will give you the first ones. And if 20% allready sold out......

I would second this question, considering that they never ran out of Airazor or Astrotrain.
Also. Doesn't it seem fishy that they set up a pre-order for a toy you haven't even seen yet? AND you have to pay for it now rather than later... Also, these guys F-A-I-L at head designs which is the main feature of said toy.

My conclusion:
It's a SCAM!!!
Chances are that the head is either junk or non existent. And the "50% sold out" is probably bull**** just to get people to buy the darn thing!

And, for those of you whom think I don't have a right to an opinion. I am a member and I have bought Airazor and Astrotrain and am enjoying at least one of them. I've bought Fan Toys, I pre-ordered Ultra Magnus, Defender and the Crossfire sets! I buy overpriced Japanese Armored Core and Gundam figures for God's sake!

But one thing I've never done is buy anything I havent seen before I paid for it. It isn't just about the money.

No see head, no buy toy. Simple as that.

I have no desire for Dion or Cyclonus, they just don't do it for me. But if the spare funds become available I would love to have that Counterpunch seeing as I don't have any version of that mold. LOVE THE KREMZEEK

Vicalliose wrote:No see head, no buy toy. Simple as that.

Seriously??? I don't think I've ever NOT bought a toy just because of the head sculpt. I mean, really--how badly could they have farkled this thing up to make it not worth the pre-order?!?!? This is a sweet exclusive! Besides, we already know the mold itself is solid.

Pre-order! No like head, display in alt mode!!

chuckdawg1999 wrote: Soon I will have an Idol of the greatest poster in Siebertron history. It shall have a position of prominence on my mantle of honor.

My ego just leveled up AND gained a Prestige Class.

Vicalliose wrote:

Protecticus Maximus wrote:I just joined the club before the deadline, and I only needed 1 Dion. But if the pre-orders sell out, and I don't preorder cyclonus and P/CP, does that mean that's it? Or will they produce a few afterwards? Cause I don't know if a "pre-order" means a figure or if it just will give you the first ones. And if 20% allready sold out......

I would second this question, considering that they never ran out of Airazor or Astrotrain.
Also. Doesn't it seem fishy that they set up a pre-order for a toy you haven't even seen yet? AND you have to pay for it now rather than later... Also, these guys F-A-I-L at head designs which is the main feature of said toy.

My conclusion:
It's a SCAM!!!
Chances are that the head is either junk or non existent. And the "50% sold out" is probably bull**** just to get people to buy the darn thing!

And, for those of you whom think I don't have a right to an opinion. I am a member and I have bought Airazor and Astrotrain and am enjoying at least one of them. I've bought Fan Toys, I pre-ordered Ultra Magnus, Defender and the Crossfire sets! I buy overpriced Japanese Armored Core and Gundam figures for God's sake!

But one thing I've never done is buy anything I havent seen before I paid for it. It isn't just about the money.

No see head, no buy toy. Simple as that.

Air Razor and Astrotrain were the first club exclusives they did. Obviously they overestimated how many people would buy these figures. Try getting either of the second round of exclusives. Nightbeat and the Seacons are totally sold out.

As for paying for a preorder up front, doesn't TFSource do that? If they don't now they at least used to. I've never felt shafted by the club at all. They put out quality figures and I've never been disappointed in any of the Botcons I've gone to. These preorders are not a scam.

Oh, and you totally have a right to an opinion.. I just don't agree with your opinion.

The only Club exclusive figure I was bummed with was Astrotrain ... and that's because it had a crappy head. It was also the only one that had a crappy head though one could argue that Nightbeat's head was a bit of a disappointment due to the lack of antennae, but it wasn't a deal breaker for sure. All of the convention exclusives have looked great as well. We've also seen the design for the head so assuming they get the sculpt right from the design, we should be golden.

I actually really like that Astrotrain.

Geekee1 wrote:I actually really like that Astrotrain.

Really? His eyes are so f'ed up though!

I'm really happy I was able to order two Punch/Counterpunch's this morning so I can display one in both factions.

Also, I was wonder how many are they actually making?

Seibertron wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:I actually really like that Astrotrain.

Really? His eyes are so f'ed up though!

I don't know man, it works for me though. I think it's more that I like the overall figure and not just the headsculpt. I can see where you're coming from.

And it looks like P/CP is somewhere around 1600 figures, going from various posts.

Geekee1 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:I actually really like that Astrotrain.

Really? His eyes are so f'ed up though!

I don't know man, it works for me though. I think it's more that I like the overall figure and not just the headsculpt. I can see where you're coming from.

And it looks like P/CP is somewhere around 1600 figures, going from various posts.

Astrotrain's definitely not the worst. I was just bummed how the actual sculpt came out. If you look at the original design of his head, it looks much, much better.

Does anyone have a scan of what Astrotrain's head was supposed to look like from the Club comic? I can't find an image of it on Google images. Perhaps one of you have the image?

Seibertron wrote:Does anyone have a scan of what Astrotrain's head was supposed to look like from the Club comic? I can't find an image of it on Google images. Perhaps one of you have the image?

I'm not sure there was something like that. Originally, Space Warp (the unproduced Armada toy that Astrotrain was made off of) had Jetfire's head.


and...I went ahead and ordered a 3rd. It had to be done.

Counterpunch wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Does anyone have a scan of what Astrotrain's head was supposed to look like from the Club comic? I can't find an image of it on Google images. Perhaps one of you have the image?

I'm not sure there was something like that. Originally, Space Warp (the unproduced Armada toy that Astrotrain was made off of) had Jetfire's head.


and...I went ahead and ordered a 3rd. It had to be done.

It's a design drawing, similar to the one for Punch / Counterpunch. I've got 2 ordered ... I was tempted for 3, but couldn't do it. I may sell one but I had to have two for the gallery.

Vicalliose wrote: these guys F-A-I-L at head designs which is the main feature of said toy.

Really? So you're saying:
Airazor
Alpha Trion
Astrotrain (don't own)
SG Blurr
Cheetor
Chromia (don't own)
Deszaras (don't own)
Dreadwind
Flak
Flareup (don't own)
Goldbug
Heatwave
Ironhide (don't own)
SG Jazz
Kup
Megatron Pre BW
SG Megatron
Nightbeat (don't own)
Optimus Primal
Razorclaw
Ratchet (don't own)
Ricochet
Scourge
Sweeps
and Tigatron are all failures?
There's no pleasing some folks I guess. I own nearly all of these and have no real issues with any of them. I think they're actually quite good.

Rated X wrote:I was just flexing my sense of humor. Honestly, Ive never done a repaint in my life. I saw a Wheeljack custom on here before. Nice work if it was yours. I just feel if for once collectors chose to let these figures purposely bomb in sales, even the smaller companies would drop the prices a bit. The fans have the power...but not the will power unfortunatley...

Actually, I believe that Hasbro has already proved you wrong. Hasbro has stated time and time again that fans make up a small portion of their revenues but people still don't believe. They attempted to work directly with the fans when they produced Special Edition Dragstrip, Overkill, Megatron. They produced them at a smaller run (my guess is 4000-5000) but with nice packaging and they were charging $16. The 1st 1000 sold out in a fair amount of time but once fans realized Hasbro had made more then that they waited for it to go on clearance. A year later, when the entire batch disappeared from HTS instead of clearancing people started panicking and buying it from scalpers at $24-$40 before realizing that HTS just sent it's extras to Marshalls.

So. . .because of the bombs in sales, we're not getting a Special Edition red mirage or updated cliffjumper for $16.

TFBuyer wrote:

Vicalliose wrote:No see head, no buy toy. Simple as that.

Seriously??? I don't think I've ever NOT bought a toy just because of the head sculpt. I mean, really--how badly could they have farkled this thing up to make it not worth the pre-order?!?!? This is a sweet exclusive! Besides, we already know the mold itself is solid.

Pre-order! No like head, display in alt mode!!

The head is the central attraction to this item! Sorry but I agree with Vicalliose on this one, If there is no clear view of the head sculpt that specificly makes this exclusive what it is then I'm not making that investment.

And no, this mold is not as solid as when it started. My Sideswipe is very finicky compared to Sunsteaker and lord only knows what terror Red Alert is.

I say let's see the head sample first, then I'll cast my vote. If it pre-orders out of stock before then, so be it.

Flux Convoy wrote:

Vicalliose wrote: these guys F-A-I-L at head designs which is the main feature of said toy.

Really? So you're saying:
Airazor
Alpha Trion
Astrotrain (don't own)
SG Blurr
Cheetor
Chromia (don't own)
Deszaras (don't own)
Dreadwind
Flak
Flareup (don't own)
Goldbug
Heatwave
Ironhide (don't own)
SG Jazz
Kup
Megatron Pre BW
SG Megatron
Nightbeat (don't own)
Optimus Primal
Razorclaw
Ratchet (don't own)
Ricochet
Scourge
Sweeps
and Tigatron are all failures?
There's no pleasing some folks I guess. I own nearly all of these and have no real issues with any of them. I think they're actually quite good.

The Ironhide/Ratched head is horrible and my least favourite aspect of the whole figure. But the rest you listed apart from Nightbeat look really nice.

TFBuyer wrote:Seriously??? I don't think I've ever NOT bought a toy just because of the head sculpt. I mean, really--how badly could they have farkled this thing up to make it not worth the pre-order?!?!? This is a sweet exclusive! Besides, we already know the mold itself is solid.

Pre-order! No like head, display in alt mode!!

Are you crazy, or are you just messing with me? 'Display the toy that I bought specifically for the new gimmick head in it's alt mode...' wtf.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Air Razor and Astrotrain were the first club exclusives they did. Obviously they overestimated how many people would buy these figures. Try getting either of the second round of exclusives. Nightbeat and the Seacons are totally sold out.

As for paying for a preorder up front, doesn't TFSource do that? If they don't now they at least used to. I've never felt shafted by the club at all. They put out quality figures and I've never been disappointed in any of the Botcons I've gone to. These preorders are not a scam.

Oh, and you totally have a right to an opinion.. I just don't agree with your opinion.

With what you said in mind, I went ahead and checked every single head sculpt manufactured by Fun Publications. To be honest, I'm not that impressed. Especially with the Kup they did last year. Yes I do still like Airazor and many of the other Fun pubs releases look quite good. But that's not the whole point.

What is more important is that the entire reason for buying this toy is the head sculpt. Whether fun pubs can do good work or not doesn't change the fact that all I've seen of this toy is what appears to be nothing more than a photoshopped picture! You always get to see the Botcon Exclusives before you buy them don't you?

Vicalliose wrote:

TFBuyer wrote:Seriously??? I don't think I've ever NOT bought a toy just because of the head sculpt. I mean, really--how badly could they have farkled this thing up to make it not worth the pre-order?!?!? This is a sweet exclusive! Besides, we already know the mold itself is solid.

Pre-order! No like head, display in alt mode!!

Are you crazy, or are you just messing with me? 'Display the toy that I bought specifically for the new gimmick head in it's alt mode...' wtf.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Air Razor and Astrotrain were the first club exclusives they did. Obviously they overestimated how many people would buy these figures. Try getting either of the second round of exclusives. Nightbeat and the Seacons are totally sold out.

As for paying for a preorder up front, doesn't TFSource do that? If they don't now they at least used to. I've never felt shafted by the club at all. They put out quality figures and I've never been disappointed in any of the Botcons I've gone to. These preorders are not a scam.

Oh, and you totally have a right to an opinion.. I just don't agree with your opinion.

With what you said in mind, I went ahead and checked every single head sculpt manufactured by Fun Publications. To be honest, I'm not that impressed. Especially with the Kup they did last year. Yes I do still like Airazor and many of the other Fun pubs releases look quite good. But that's not the whole point.

What is more important is that the entire reason for buying this toy is the head sculpt. Whether fun pubs can do good work or not doesn't change the fact that all I've seen of this toy is what appears to be nothing more than a photoshopped picture! You always get to see the Botcon Exclusives before you buy them don't you?

You may not like the headsculpts and you may not want to buy P/CP before you see the head. My real point is this is not a scam.

I have 2 sideswipes and 2 sunstreakers. All of them were fine figures.. No issues with "mold degradation." I also got Henkei Red Alert. That figure is great! I don't think anyone needs to worry about the mold being bad.

Vicalliose wrote:But one thing I've never done is buy anything I havent seen before I paid for it. It isn't just about the money.

No see head, no buy toy. Simple as that.

On principal, I agree with what you're getting at.

In execution, you're being heavy handed and possibly short-sighted.

The toy will, with little doubt be quite good. The head should be similar if not exact to the promotion art. This toy will be very expensive on the secondary market once it sells out.

The Club does a lot of stuff wrong/annoying from a business stand point. Their most loyal members/supporters are always begging for table scraps of information rather than having it served up with ease for their consumption. So, in regards to your principal stance of "They should not be rewarded for this behavior." I 100% agree.

However, considering the inevitable price the Punch figure will command, not getting one now will equate to cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Seibertron wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Does anyone have a scan of what Astrotrain's head was supposed to look like from the Club comic? I can't find an image of it on Google images. Perhaps one of you have the image?

I'm not sure there was something like that. Originally, Space Warp (the unproduced Armada toy that Astrotrain was made off of) had Jetfire's head.


and...I went ahead and ordered a 3rd. It had to be done.

It's a design drawing, similar to the one for Punch / Counterpunch. I've got 2 ordered ... I was tempted for 3, but couldn't do it. I may sell one but I had to have two for the gallery.

I'm up to 5 myself, can't seem to stop preorderig them, looking forward to havig 2 on display, possibly making sweet, sweet love. I'll stop at 7. Might have Punch getting his chasis kicked by Counterpunch.

Preordered. I have yet to be burned by the Club. Only getting one though so I can randomly change which shelf it's on and see if anyone else notices. Probably not but still.

Alright, 1 Punch and 6 Counterpunches is my limit! How many of these were made?

I went ahead and pre-ordered it, I was going to buy it anyway, since it doesn't cost extra to pre-order, why not?

And if I don't like the head molds, I will sell it to someone who does.

Yes it's a $70 gamble, but why not?!

How limited is the run and is there any pics on the packaging for p/cp???

Counterpunch wrote:

Vicalliose wrote:But one thing I've never done is buy anything I havent seen before I paid for it. It isn't just about the money.

No see head, no buy toy. Simple as that.

On principal, I agree with what you're getting at.

In execution, you're being heavy handed and possibly short-sighted.

The toy will, with little doubt be quite good. The head should be similar if not exact to the promotion art. This toy will be very expensive on the secondary market once it sells out.

The Club does a lot of stuff wrong/annoying from a business stand point. Their most loyal members/supporters are always begging for table scraps of information rather than having it served up with ease for their consumption. So, in regards to your principal stance of "They should not be rewarded for this behavior." I 100% agree.

However, considering the inevitable price the Punch figure will command, not getting one now will equate to cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Your the huge P/PC fan, and you of all people can see where I'm coming from!?
I must say I'm... surprised.

You are right though, the proper words would not be "It's a SCAM!!!" as I said before, but that it 'looks like a scam.' in a sense that I do not feel comfortable with Fun Pubs, or any other business operating in such an odd manner.

I just know I'll be banging myself on the head later if I don't order it though.
After all, it is the whole reason I joined...

But not until July? Why would I want to make a payment on something that far away?! It's ridiculous that they even have the pre-orders up! I was gonna buy Drift, Seaspray, Thrust, and perhaps even some of the Powered Cores! I already ordered the crossfire sets!

Now I've got to start crunching numbers on what's more important.

BTW it wasn't very clear when I checked their site, so would it cost me a percentage to cancel one of the pre-orders?

Vicalliose wrote:

TFBuyer wrote:Seriously??? I don't think I've ever NOT bought a toy just because of the head sculpt. I mean, really--how badly could they have farkled this thing up to make it not worth the pre-order?!?!? This is a sweet exclusive! Besides, we already know the mold itself is solid.

Pre-order! No like head, display in alt mode!!

Are you crazy, or are you just messing with me? 'Display the toy that I bought specifically for the new gimmick head in it's alt mode...' wtf.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Air Razor and Astrotrain were the first club exclusives they did. Obviously they overestimated how many people would buy these figures. Try getting either of the second round of exclusives. Nightbeat and the Seacons are totally sold out.

As for paying for a preorder up front, doesn't TFSource do that? If they don't now they at least used to. I've never felt shafted by the club at all. They put out quality figures and I've never been disappointed in any of the Botcons I've gone to. These preorders are not a scam.

Oh, and you totally have a right to an opinion.. I just don't agree with your opinion.

With what you said in mind, I went ahead and checked every single head sculpt manufactured by Fun Publications. To be honest, I'm not that impressed. Especially with the Kup they did last year. Yes I do still like Airazor and many of the other Fun pubs releases look quite good. But that's not the whole point.

What is more important is that the entire reason for buying this toy is the head sculpt. Whether fun pubs can do good work or not doesn't change the fact that all I've seen of this toy is what appears to be nothing more than a photoshopped picture! You always get to see the Botcon Exclusives before you buy them don't you?

Look, dude, I'm neither crazy nor messing with you. (Ok, maybe the "display in alt mode" was a bit of a joke...) You get all warm and fuzzy over the head sculpts?? FINE. Don't order it, but then good luck on e-bay when they're gone and it ends up looking good. Criminy, for as much as you're "not that impressed" by basically any head sculpt FunPub has ever done, why not go into the head-sculpting business so you can finally be happy? Life is too short!

Look, I'm really just trying to say that I think you safely have enough to go on this time that if you really want the figure you should go ahead and pre-order it. By and large, the mold is good. The head sculpt sketches look solid. Will I be disappointed if I get my figure and they stuck a frickin' Lego head on top with a face on either side? YES! But I don't want to be left out on this one, not with this figure. If the figure itself isn't that big of a deal to you, I see where you'd want to wait it out. I did the same with the exclusive Nightbeat, and I'm really not that disappointed that I don't have it. If all else fails, throw it on e-bay if you're not happy and someone will pay top dollar for it.

Honestly, what you want to do is what you want to do--I can't really understand why either of us is getting so worked up over this...

The problem I have is that I dunno if the club wants the money up front for the pre-orders, or if they bill my card when they ship.

The problem with paying now is that I won't have the money to pay for it until next weekend. Should be a non-issue for Dion because I renewed my membership when I bought the version of Wings of Honor that has his MTMTE bio. (Since it was well before the 16th, I should be getting Dion as this year's free figure anyway.) But for the other two... Meep.

The problem with not getting billed for these figures until they ship is that they may ship late in the month the club has them available to send out. There's no telling if this'd actually happen or not until the figures actually ship, but I don't wanna bounce any checks...

Unless they have changed how they operate since last year's exclusives they bill up front.

TFBuyer wrote:Look, dude, I'm neither crazy nor messing with you. (Ok, maybe the "display in alt mode" was a bit of a joke...) You get all warm and fuzzy over the head sculpts?? FINE. Don't order it, but then good luck on e-bay when they're gone and it ends up looking good. Criminy, for as much as you're "not that impressed" by basically any head sculpt FunPub has ever done, why not go into the head-sculpting business so you can finally be happy? Life is too short!

What I meant is that it's been 'hit & miss' with their head sculpting. I 'do' know a few that I believe were very good though.

ShGarland_1383 wrote:The problem I have is that I dunno if the club wants the money up front for the pre-orders, or if they bill my card when they ship.

Nah, it's upfront. And that's exactly what bothers me about it.

Edit: I still think that the price on this is way too high. Cyclonus even more so (seriously he costs more than Airazor?) but I didn't plan on getting him anyway.

I just pre-ordered my second P/CP, one for each faction. Passed on SG Cyclous since I don't have any of the other SG figures and not really planning on ever getting them. I'll get Dion for free so I'm all set.

Pete@Botcon has updated the sales percentage of Punch/Counterpunch on the Transformer's Collectors Club forum. Punch/Counterpunch is now over 82% gone! Pete@Botcon has also revealed that the total run of P/CP is about 1800. Which means there are approximately less than 300 left!

So if you haven't ordered Punch/Counterpunch, you should probably do so quickly before they are all gone. Click the link below to order yourself a Punch/Counterpunch if you still need one before they are gone and be sure to check out Shattered Glass Cyclonus and Elite Guard Dion as well.

Shattered Glass Cyclonus



Classics Punch / Counterpunch



2010 Club Exclusive Dion

Yikes.. going fast. I'm tempted to order 5 more, but don't want to be a Jacka$$. So, to to those last few individuals who get thier order in on time, you can thank me later

Crap

Dear Pete, could you have picked a different week than one that Dadwas in the hospital to release P/CP? As it is, I'm gonna miss out on the one I want, because the guy who's name is on the credit card is laid up. I have money, but no card. Oh well.

Crap.

Remember demand talks money and money talks re-issues. If Counterpunch is so hot, what makes you think Hasbro or even Takara wont pay off TFCC to mass produce ??? Do you think TFCC can afford to turn down a million dollar deal ??? Or even $500,000 or $250,000 ???

No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Maybe, but Thrust will took 3 years to make mass produced status in the US since his first appearance. It's also been said (and confirmed) that TFCC destroys the molds it uses to prevent KOs appearing in the future.

So I'm not holding my breath; and even if P/CP does make mass release, I'll have gottem my enjoyment from the fig.

Mkall wrote:

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Maybe, but Thrust will took 3 years to make mass produced status in the US since his first appearance. It's also been said (and confirmed) that TFCC destroys the molds it uses to prevent KOs appearing in the future.

So I'm not holding my breath; and even if P/CP does make mass release, I'll have gottem my enjoyment from the fig.

Not only that, but if/when P/CP makes a 'traditional' release, if ever, it won't be exactly like the TFCC release, just like Thrust wasn't. In this case, that's a guaranteed new head sculpt.

I'd be right in line for that reissue also.; just like Thrust. Maybe Hasbro/TT would scuplt some new hands. 3rd party makers have an opportunity here. I wondering how long before those appear in the market?

Rated X wrote:Remember demand talks money and money talks re-issues. If Counterpunch is so hot, what makes you think Hasbro or even Takara wont pay off TFCC to mass produce ??? Do you think TFCC can afford to turn down a million dollar deal ??? Or even $500,000 or $250,000 ???

No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

TFCC licenses product from Hasbro, not the other way around. If Hasbro wanted to make more, they'd tell TFCC, "We're making more." I'd be shocked if Hasbro/Takara would ever do that, though, without telling the TFCC "you're through." Sure, they'd re-sculpt possibly, but never straight out reissue the club's exclusive works.

Well since I joined the club in January, I may be pleased. It looks like the numbers for p/CP are low, less than 2000, maybe about 1600 made. In the HWC/RLC we had cars that were in the 10,000 range. But the ones under 2000 were worth the money.

Mkall wrote:

Rated X wrote:No disrespect to anybody but I see this figure making a comeback. Just like Thrust.

Maybe, but Thrust will took 3 years to make mass produced status in the US since his first appearance. It's also been said (and confirmed) that TFCC destroys the molds it uses to prevent KOs appearing in the future.

So I'm not holding my breath; and even if P/CP does make mass release, I'll have gottem my enjoyment from the fig.

That's my opinion as well. I've been enjoying Thundercracker, Thrust, and Dirge from the GoD set for three years now. Making the set well worth the price I paid for the Iacon package.

I can't believe I've just done this, but I've preordered my Punch/Counterpunch... spur of the moment decision. Thank Primus for club prices, though...

Preordered Cp... So help me though that lil bugger best not appear magically on BBTS in a month or so cheaper...

too bad they went up so late in the month. i'd really like to at least get one of these two guys, but since they're going so fast and they want the money up front...i think i'm kinda fraked over here.

meep.