Tokyo Wonderfest Images of Transformers Siege Spinister, Rumble, Rung, Omega Supreme, Ratbat, Mirage
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2019 @ 7:39am CDT
When the two other cassettes packs will come out, I'll get them for sure.
Posted by matthewrex on July 28th, 2019 @ 8:27am CDT
Rainmakers:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250675
Micro 10pack:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250678
Ordered the Seekers. Can't wait!
Posted by Microbot on July 28th, 2019 @ 9:29am CDT

Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 28th, 2019 @ 9:40am CDT
matthewrex wrote:Not sure if it's been posted yet, but the new Target exclusives are now available online:
Rainmakers:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250675
Micro 10pack:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250678
Ordered the Seekers. Can't wait!
Thank you!
(And thanks to my wife for ordering them with her Red Card).
Posted by The_Cryptid_Person on July 28th, 2019 @ 9:43am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 28th, 2019 @ 9:54am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Oddly enough I still feel the combined devastator scales about right too; at least as imposing as he was in siege on Autobot City on the movie
See, I've been telling people (and have had many agree) that Devastator and Predaking are proper Combiner scale, and the other combiners are too small. It's why I've had zero issues with either, they are perfectly sized.
I really wish the next Commander would be Thunderwing, but alas, I think it will be Sky Lynx, a shuttle to go with a spaceship sort of thing
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 28th, 2019 @ 9:59am CDT
matthewrex wrote:Not sure if it's been posted yet, but the new Target exclusives are now available online:
Rainmakers:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250675
Micro 10pack:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250678
Ordered the Seekers. Can't wait!
As of this moment, there are no more available online. Not all Target stores carry it, and not all that do have an option for BOPIS. Not sure if I want to drive around checking the stores where it's in stock, drive 3 hours to a store that will hold it, wait to see if more are available online later, or decide I don't actually need five Cybertronian seekers.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 28th, 2019 @ 10:00am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:matthewrex wrote:Not sure if it's been posted yet, but the new Target exclusives are now available online:
Rainmakers:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250675
Micro 10pack:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-s ... A-76250678
Ordered the Seekers. Can't wait!
As of this moment, there are no more available online. Not all Target stores carry it, and not all that do have an option for BOPIS. Not sure if I want to drive around checking the stores where it's in stock, drive 3 hours to a store that will hold it, wait to see if more are available online later, or decide I don't actually need five Cybertronian seekers.
Micromasters are still available, the Seekers are not as this point.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 28th, 2019 @ 10:13am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2019 @ 10:23am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:Oddly enough I still feel the combined devastator scales about right too; at least as imposing as he was in siege on Autobot City on the movie
See, I've been telling people (and have had many agree) that Devastator and Predaking are proper Combiner scale, and the other combiners are too small. It's why I've had zero issues with either, they are perfectly sized.
I really wish the next Commander would be Thunderwing, but alas, I think it will be Sky Lynx, a shuttle to go with a spaceship sort of thing
Yes, Titan Devastator and Predaking are definitely Generations Siege scale. And for the Combiner Wars ones to be in proper scale, they should be titan too. At least in combined mode. However, having voyager scaled CARS and bikes wouldn't make any sense.
As for a proper MP scaled Devastator, each components should be at least MP-10 sise and cost nearly 200$ each. Making for an over 1000$US combiner of epic proportions.
Next HasLab project, perhaps?
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 28th, 2019 @ 10:53am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Yeah, sorry, I meant to specify. None of the stores that online said had Rainmakers in stock actually have any available. Unless they're going to be restocked, this is going to be very hard to find.
Those stores probably have them, just not available/accessible yet. Most stores in my area are holding putting them out until they reset the toy area. Today was actually the date most stores in my area were scheduled to reset. I lucked out and called one near me that said they had 2 in the back and could hold one at customer service for me.
Try calling the stores near you with the DCPI code and ask if they have it in stock. I wasted time driving to 4-5 stores on Wednesday that Brickseek said had stock with no luck. That's when I learned they were tied to resetting the toy section. It also looks like each store may only be getting 2 initially. Friday instead of going to the stores, I called them on my way home from work and went to the one that had 2 in back and would hold one for me. It was one of the stores that Brickseek said had them, so it does seem useful in narrowing down which stores might have them, but it all depends on whether that store is resetting their toy section this week or not.
Posted by Flashwave on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:01am CDT
so Tor like the file compression? FittingSabrblade wrote:His name's Gilthor (he finally has an actual English spelling of his name, straight from Masumi Kaneda himself, but the H is silent so it's still spoken like "Gill-tor").Latebrus-K wrote:and whether the inner robot could be repurposed as a guiltaur
I assume that ia the blast from Last Knight Megatron? Is that the same size as a blast effect or is it close enough to work for some figures?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ready for some Flaming hammers?
Smashdown's effects make for excellent punching visuals!
Transformers: Prime callback
also, Brunt can do this:
(At ridk of running afoul of 3P rules here) there is a guy on Facebook making cast duplicates of the Blast Effwcts from Siege. Most are 1.50 each, the Smashdpwn effect is 3, and he did one of Skyfire's for 9, but in Purple coming from Megatron's fusion cannon it looks AMAZING. If you are really into these things.

He also made and sold a custom Smashdown painted as Mjolner...
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:10am CDT
Flashwave wrote: I assume that ia the blast from Last Knight Megatron? Is that the same size as a blast effect or is it close enough to work for some figures?
Yes, that is from TLK Leader Megs and works with any 5mm port. I found Megs on clearance at Walmart for $13 and got him just for the effects. They are a lot of fun.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:18am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Yeah, sorry, I meant to specify. None of the stores that online said had Rainmakers in stock actually have any available. Unless they're going to be restocked, this is going to be very hard to find.
Those stores probably have them, just not available/accessible yet. Most stores in my area are holding putting them out until they reset the toy area. Today was actually the date most stores in my area were scheduled to reset. I lucked out and called one near me that said they had 2 in the back and could hold one at customer service for me.
Try calling the stores near you with the DCPI code and ask if they have it in stock. I wasted time driving to 4-5 stores on Wednesday that Brickseek said had stock with no luck. That's when I learned they were tied to resetting the toy section. It also looks like each store may only be getting 2 initially. Friday instead of going to the stores, I called them on my way home from work and went to the one that had 2 in back and would hold one for me. It was one of the stores that Brickseek said had them, so it does seem useful in narrowing down which stores might have them, but it all depends on whether that store is resetting their toy section this week or not.
That wasn't from checking shelves, but asking stores to check inventory via DCPI. I don't know why online and store inventory didn't align.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:25am CDT
Flashwave wrote:He also made and sold a custom Smashdown painted as Mjolner...
...I frikkin need that.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:31am CDT
Flashwave wrote:so Tor like the file compression? FittingSabrblade wrote:His name's Gilthor (he finally has an actual English spelling of his name, straight from Masumi Kaneda himself, but the H is silent so it's still spoken like "Gill-tor").Latebrus-K wrote:and whether the inner robot could be repurposed as a guiltaurI assume that ia the blast from Last Knight Megatron? Is that the same size as a blast effect or is it close enough to work for some figures?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ready for some Flaming hammers?
Smashdown's effects make for excellent punching visuals!
Transformers: Prime callback
also, Brunt can do this:
(At ridk of running afoul of 3P rules here) there is a guy on Facebook making cast duplicates of the Blast Effwcts from Siege. Most are 1.50 each, the Smashdpwn effect is 3, and he did one of Skyfire's for 9, but in Purple coming from Megatron's fusion cannon it looks AMAZING. If you are really into these things.![]()
He also made and sold a custom Smashdown painted as Mjolner...
Can you post a link?
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:39am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:50am CDT

Posted by Stargrave on July 28th, 2019 @ 12:00pm CDT
Posted by Ig89ninja on July 28th, 2019 @ 1:41pm CDT
Posted by Unicron Magnus on July 28th, 2019 @ 1:51pm CDT
I still can't figure out how Spinister's transformation works.
Posted by Flashwave on July 28th, 2019 @ 2:20pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Flashwave wrote:so Tor like the file compression? FittingSabrblade wrote:His name's Gilthor (he finally has an actual English spelling of his name, straight from Masumi Kaneda himself, but the H is silent so it's still spoken like "Gill-tor").Latebrus-K wrote:and whether the inner robot could be repurposed as a guiltaurI assume that ia the blast from Last Knight Megatron? Is that the same size as a blast effect or is it close enough to work for some figures?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ready for some Flaming hammers?
*pic*
*pic*
Smashdown's effects make for excellent punching visuals!
*Pic*
Transformers: Prime callback
*pic*
also, Brunt can do this:
*Pic*
(At ridk of running afoul of 3P rules here) there is a guy on Facebook making cast duplicates of the Blast Effwcts from Siege. Most are 1.50 each, the Smashdpwn effect is 3, and he did one of Skyfire's for 9, but in Purple coming from Megatron's fusion cannon it looks AMAZING. If you are really into these things.![]()
He also made and sold a custom Smashdown painted as Mjolner...
Can you post a link?
Grimlock’s Forge Resin casts, firmer than the originals but still have some give to them to avoid fragility,
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Flashwave wrote:He also made and sold a custom Smashdown painted as Mjolner...
...I frikkin need that.
Siege Mjolner:
he’s charging $25 but I figure 6.50 for Smashdown, another 5 for the modified Handle and the blue smash effect, 12 bucks for paint and labor is not an unreasonable ask. I’ve painted Minicons before and the finer details can be tedious. Fun, but tedious.
Posted by Flashwave on July 28th, 2019 @ 2:38pm CDT
Unicron Magnus wrote:Hopefully if we do get a "Frenzy", he keeps the effect ports from "Rumble".
I still can't figure out how Spinister's transformation works.
The feet swivel down 90* sideways and turn to the side. The waist turns 90*, and one leg folds in half in front of the chest, while the other folds in half and goes either under the helicopter or against the back. The feet are sticking out the sides, thats what the guns attach to.
Did you ever have Animated Prowl? the Motorcycle? Same idea
The Tail Boom looks like it might be on a collapsing Z hinge. Lay the back down, and the tail lifts up and swings out. Rotate the head so he;s not looking at the ground in alt mode, and close the back up again.
Posted by ThunderThruster on July 28th, 2019 @ 2:58pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:He also made and sold a custom Smashdown painted as Mjolner...
ZeroWolf wrote:I'd rather someone did a custom Smashdown that was gold... And painted Sixguns big hand combo to match
That's all the excuse I need to get 3 Smashdown's.
Posted by Vic Zanzibar on July 28th, 2019 @ 3:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 28th, 2019 @ 5:42pm CDT
SIEGE Shockblast! I'd like to plead my case for a release of a Green and Black recolor of Brunt: Alright Hasbro, I've been thinking about this ever since the moment I open War For Cybertron: SIEGE Leader Class Shockwave. The Voyager sized center of him is masterfully excicuted, but where in the world did the idea come from to give him "armor" that looks like he canibolized himself?The Galaxy Force armor for Leader Class Optimus Prime was a FANTASTIC idea; pull in multiple eras of the Transformers fan base; very cleaver! You could have done the very same thing with Shockwave by giving him Energeon Shockblast armor, but instead we got... Mutant Zombie Shockwave..? Then, I took a close look at Brunt and realized he's got nearly all the right parts to make Shockblast armor! I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider the possibility that maybe you had this idea from the get-go. If that's true, touché, well played. The only problem is, for Brunt to make perfect Shockblast Armor, instead of Purple and Gray he needs to be Green and Black. I can hardly believe I'm writing this, but recolor... please??? P.S. the deluxe class Weaponizers concept/play pattern is brilliant and tons of fun; I hope to see a lot more new molds of these as well. P.P.S ; The WFC: SIEGE toyline as whole is the best series of figures to date! Keep up the great work!



Posted by Deadput on July 28th, 2019 @ 6:18pm CDT

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Centurion_droid
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 28th, 2019 @ 6:41pm CDT
Vic Zanzibar wrote:I think the Target inventory system has screwed up. Went to two Targets that allegedly had the Rainmakers and Micromasters, but they were unable to locate them. The guy at one said they have had issues like that with some Spider-Man figures too.
I think it may be a situation of physically at the address, but not actually available. One possibility is them being still on a wrapped pallet and not unloaded/separated, or even in storage out on the shipping containers that many stores have on their location.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 28th, 2019 @ 6:43pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Vic Zanzibar wrote:I think the Target inventory system has screwed up. Went to two Targets that allegedly had the Rainmakers and Micromasters, but they were unable to locate them. The guy at one said they have had issues like that with some Spider-Man figures too.
I think it may be a situation of physically at the address, but not actually available. One possibility is them being still on a wrapped pallet and not unloaded/separated, or even in storage out on the shipping containers that many stores have on their location.
As mentioned before, wait for the resets to happen and space to be allocated for them. Any kinks in the system should be worked out by then. Just look for rolling heads

Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2019 @ 7:50pm CDT
Microbot wrote:When the 2nd cassette wave and new micro master combiners suppose to be out for sale?
Christmas 2019
Posted by Flashwave on July 28th, 2019 @ 8:51pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:From Unicron.com:SIEGE Shockblast! I'd like to plead my case for a release of a Green and Black recolor of Brunt: Alright Hasbro, I've been thinking about this ever since the moment I open War For Cybertron: SIEGE Leader Class Shockwave. The Voyager sized center of him is masterfully excicuted, but where in the world did the idea come from to give him "armor" that looks like he canibolized himself?The Galaxy Force armor for Leader Class Optimus Prime was a FANTASTIC idea; pull in multiple eras of the Transformers fan base; very cleaver! You could have done the very same thing with Shockwave by giving him Energeon Shockblast armor, but instead we got... Mutant Zombie Shockwave..? Then, I took a close look at Brunt and realized he's got nearly all the right parts to make Shockblast armor! I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider the possibility that maybe you had this idea from the get-go. If that's true, touché, well played. The only problem is, for Brunt to make perfect Shockblast Armor, instead of Purple and Gray he needs to be Green and Black. I can hardly believe I'm writing this, but recolor... please??? P.S. the deluxe class Weaponizers concept/play pattern is brilliant and tons of fun; I hope to see a lot more new molds of these as well. P.P.S ; The WFC: SIEGE toyline as whole is the best series of figures to date! Keep up the great work!
And I will say what I said on their Facebook post: the Green and Black (specifically on the Cannon) is exactly what is keeping Energon Shockblast from haveing been and continuing to be my de-facto Shockwave. The death ray satillite is to me thr best compromise we had gotten for flying laser gun alt mode. The land tank mode is what it is. Siege Shockwave as is looks great with As is Brunt, I do not want or need to reproduce that green barrel.
Deadput wrote:Such a shame there isn't any possibility of repainting Brunt into green, there is no precedence for such a redeco right?
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Centurion_droid
Now I do very much want this, but I would have called that an Eggshell color, not green.
Posted by Deadput on July 28th, 2019 @ 9:00pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Now I do very much want this, but I would have called that an Eggshell color, not green.
True if we went by that one picture alone however...

Their original G1 colors lend towards the homage better and is more likely the color to be used if Hasbro gave us the Droids.
Posted by Flashwave on July 28th, 2019 @ 9:00pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:Oddly enough I still feel the combined devastator scales about right too; at least as imposing as he was in siege on Autobot City on the movie
See, I've been telling people (and have had many agree) that Devastator and Predaking are proper Combiner scale, and the other combiners are too small. It's why I've had zero issues with either, they are perfectly sized.
I really wish the next Commander would be Thunderwing, but alas, I think it will be Sky Lynx, a shuttle to go with a spaceship sort of thing
Yes, Titan Devastator and Predaking are definitely Generations Siege scale. And for the Combiner Wars ones to be in proper scale, they should be titan too. At least in combined mode. However, having voyager scaled CARS and bikes wouldn't make any sense.
As for a proper MP scaled Devastator, each components should be at least MP-10 sise and cost nearly 200$ each. Making for an over 1000$US combiner of epic proportions.
Next HasLab project, perhaps?
While I dovthinkvthe CW combiners are a tad small, I like the size theu are close to compared to the Titans because of this:
Some of it os proportion, and again the CW Combiner aare a tad small even for this, , but Predaking is HUGE compared to Superion and Defensor
Posted by Vic Zanzibar on July 28th, 2019 @ 10:49pm CDT
Reconfigured my Cons shelf today to put Siege Megs and Screamer in place and also in preparation for the eventual arrival of the other six Siegekers. Took out the four Classics regular mold Seekers. (Left the Coneheads for now.) Kinda felt strange since Classics Screamer and Skywarp were in the very first batch of Transformers I ever bought. It'll be weird to have them replaced, but it was over twelve years ago that I got them. It's definitely time to upgrade and the Siegeker mold sure is an upgrade. I wish the whole chestplate thing hadn't overshadowed Screamer's launch because that mold is pretty killer and I don't think it gets the credit it should.
Posted by Stargrave on July 28th, 2019 @ 10:54pm CDT
The full rundown from Target.com:
"Highlights
BUILD THE ULTIMATE BATTLEFIELD: The Generations War for Cybertron trilogy introduces an expansive ecosystem of collectible figures and weapon accessories. (Each sold separately. Subject to availability)
EXCITING 10pk WITH CLASSIC MICROMASTER COMBINATION: This 10pk includes 5 teams of Micromaster toys that convert and combine to form weapon modes!
CLASSIC G1-INSPIRED CHARACTERS: Adult fans nostalgic for the original Transformers animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns across generations
AWESOME CONVERSION: Each figure in this Micromaster 10pk features simple conversion to micro vehicle modes. For kids and adults 8 years old and up!
COMPATIBLE WEAPON MODE WORKS WITH ALL OTHER FIGURES: War for Cybertron: Siege figures have multiple weapon ports that enable fans to attach the weapon mode of Micromaster figures
Build the ultimate battlefield with Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege collectible figures, featuring classic G1 characters. (Each figure sold separately. Subject to availability). Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the Autobot and Decepticon battle to control Cybertron. The Decepticon resistance army and the Autobot counter-resistance fighters gear up with the universe's most advanced modular weaponry, including the weapon modes of Micromaster figures - sentient bots that become weapons!
Micromaster figures combine to form weapons to equip other Siege figures (sold separately)!
WFC-S58 Ricon and Irontread form Dual-Port Scrapgrinder
WFC-S59 Road-Police and Wheel Blaze form Powershot Plasma Cannon
WFC-S60 Overair and Ground Shaker form Ultra-Sonic Shredder Blade
WFC-S61 Slyhopper and Nightflight form Dual-Edged Soundbreaker Sword
WFC-S62 Cratermaker and Fireline form Gravatronic Rubblemaker Cannon
- Includes 10 Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Micromaster figures and instructions.
- Figure scale: 1.5 inches
- Ages 8 and up
- Warning: Choking Hazard - Small parts. Not for children under 3 years.
Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro.
Dimensions (Overall): 9.49 inches (H) x 10.98 inches (W) x 1.73 inches (D)
Suggested Age: 8 Years and Up
Weight: .88 pounds
Material: Plastic
Number of Figures: 10
CPSC Choking Hazard Warnings: Choking_hazard_small_parts
TCIN: 76250678
UPC: 630509873814
Item Number (DPCI): 087-16-7745"
Enjoy the images and happy hunting. Share your scores and near misses in the forums and stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!




Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:35pm CDT
It's strange... I like all the individual robot mode colors, and most of the alt mode colors... but good lord a lot of those "combined weapons" are eye searing... would make interesting weapons for the Rain Makers.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 28th, 2019 @ 11:37pm CDT
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on July 29th, 2019 @ 12:05am CDT
Keep an eye on your shipping cost, I guess...
**EDIT**
There is a decimal there... Nevermind.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 29th, 2019 @ 12:40am CDT
That illustration was done by someone who was going off the G1 toys side by side without factoring in how underscale the other G1 combiner toys were. Like, the Constructicons and the "Scramble City" types (especially the limbs) are shrimpy even next to their fellow Diaclone-originating robots; the Structies and the Scramble City limbs are practically Legion-class toys and look tiny even next to the likes of G1 Mirage and Bluestreak. Whereas the G1 Predacon toys were made in the same robot mode scale as Hot Rod, Kup, et al.Flashwave wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:Oddly enough I still feel the combined devastator scales about right too; at least as imposing as he was in siege on Autobot City on the movie
See, I've been telling people (and have had many agree) that Devastator and Predaking are proper Combiner scale, and the other combiners are too small. It's why I've had zero issues with either, they are perfectly sized.
I really wish the next Commander would be Thunderwing, but alas, I think it will be Sky Lynx, a shuttle to go with a spaceship sort of thing
Yes, Titan Devastator and Predaking are definitely Generations Siege scale. And for the Combiner Wars ones to be in proper scale, they should be titan too. At least in combined mode. However, having voyager scaled CARS and bikes wouldn't make any sense.
As for a proper MP scaled Devastator, each components should be at least MP-10 sise and cost nearly 200$ each. Making for an over 1000$US combiner of epic proportions.
Next HasLab project, perhaps?
While I dovthinkvthe CW combiners are a tad small, I like the size theu are close to compared to the Titans because of this:
Some of it os proportion, and again the CW Combiner aare a tad small even for this, , but Predaking is HUGE compared to Superion and Defensor
CW Devastator and PotP Predaking are, in combined form, indeed in perfect cartoon scale with regular size figures. However, the tradeoff for this is that the individual Constructicons and Predacons are not, especially the Structies; the cartoon's conceit of combiners swelling up to larger than the sum of their parts is to blame. The standard CW and PotP Combiners are the converse; their individual members are in scale with their peers, but the combined form lacks the daikaiju size from the cartoon (although it's still hefty and towering). It does make one miss the Legion size class for G1 characters; that would resolve things nicely. Well, that and having Supreme/Commander-size Devy and Predaking (Especially Devy, he battled other combiners more than Predaking did; I mean, who can forget "Bruticus devastate Devastator!"?) to scale with the other combiners.
Regarding the Commander class... It had better NOT be Sky Lynx. Thanks to Predaking being done as a Titan-class toy, Sky Lynx (his main rival) absolutely has to be one as well. I still personally think it could be a downsized Omega Supreme (most likely in Guardian Robot colors if so). That would complement Omega Supreme by being a smaller version that scaled better with regular CW and PotP combiners.
Posted by Deadput on July 29th, 2019 @ 1:39am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 29th, 2019 @ 1:44am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Was there a confirmation of the "regular" Off-Road Patrol Release? Is this 10pk release the *recolors* before the official release?
Not yet, for some reason they're pushed back to Wave 4 with Barricade, Mirage and Impactor, even though their numbering places them in Wave 3. Redecos/Retools released before the main retail original has happened before mind you. Speaking of which, they're actually redecos of retools. Sound confusing?
Irontread is based on Ironworks, but the new parts are inspired by Monster Truck Patrol member Big Hauler. Ricon is an all-new character (though he reminded me of Tote), but the new parts follow fellow Patrol Member Hydraulic's design:

Transformers G1 1990 Big Hauler Gallery

Transformers G1 1990 Hydraulic Gallery
Expect them in the next part

Posted by Flashwave on July 29th, 2019 @ 1:45am CDT
Deadput wrote:I think Star Saber as a retool of Jetfire is a possibility.
Nah, for me its a new mold Star Sber with Thunderwing the Co-Tool. But I am pretty sure I would rather have Star Saber as a Leader Class so that they can do Vic Leo as a Weaponizer or Voyager Weaponizer
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 29th, 2019 @ 2:24am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:Was there a confirmation of the "regular" Off-Road Patrol Release? Is this 10pk release the *recolors* before the official release?
Not yet, for some reason they're pushed back to Wave 4 with Barricade, Mirage and Impactor, even though their numbering places them in Wave 3. Redecos/Retools released before the main retail original has happened before mind you. Speaking of which, they're actually redecos of retools. Sound confusing?
Irontread is based on Ironworks, but the new parts are inspired by Monster Truck Patrol member Big Hauler. Ricon is an all-new character (though he reminded me of Tote), but the new parts follow fellow Patrol Member Hydraulic's design:
Transformers G1 1990 Big Hauler Gallery
Transformers G1 1990 Hydraulic Gallery
Expect them in the next part
I thought they looked familiar... couldn't put my finger on it. Looking back at my original collection (thorugh memory) I somehow only have "half" of some of my patrols... wonder if friends over the years wandered off with some.
I really hope we get the hot rod patrol.
also regarding: "It does make one miss the Legion size class for G1 characters; that would resolve things nicely."-Flashwave
I completely agree! I was recently just looking at my legion Seekers and wondering where a lot of the others went (really makes me regret missing a lot of the Movieverse legions (Guzzle and some of others have gotten $$). Mostly just because they're continuing the "all-in" on the "cybertron city" it'd be nice to have everyone to that scale. Even if it technically violates the whole point of "micro masters".
Kind of makes me wonder if they might do Select reissues of some of the leaders like Twin Cast or.... fire Guts God Genrai (or Nucleon quest would be a winner)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 29th, 2019 @ 2:25am CDT
Flashwave wrote:Deadput wrote:I think Star Saber as a retool of Jetfire is a possibility.
Nah, for me its a new mold Star Sber with Thunderwing the Co-Tool. But I am pretty sure I would rather have Star Saber as a Leader Class so that they can do Vic Leo as a Weaponizer or Voyager Weaponizer
Star Saber as a retool of Jetfire wouldn't work that well anyway, at least not if you wanted a real resemblance to the Victory version. Engineering's too different, I'd say.
There are other possibilities for Jetfire, though. They could redeco him into some other Macross-reference livery, probably accompanied by the name Jetstorm or Overcast. Or, given the other Unicron Trilogy referencing that's been going on, they could reference Cybertron Sky Shadow:

Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 29th, 2019 @ 2:25am CDT
Though the PotP leaders seemed to be the best way to tackle that.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 29th, 2019 @ 2:29am CDT
I think you mean Titans ReturnSpikeyTigertron wrote:I would also love if they maybe considered a new class/product for micromaster bases, even if it's the smaller playsets versus the Rocket Base.
Though the PotP leaders seemed to be the best way to tackle that.

Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 29th, 2019 @ 3:07am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think you mean Titans ReturnSpikeyTigertron wrote:I would also love if they maybe considered a new class/product for micromaster bases, even if it's the smaller playsets versus the Rocket Base.
Though the PotP leaders seemed to be the best way to tackle that.The munky, the trukk, and the Rodebago lack real base modes
Oh, true! Though Primal I think is Titan Master compatible? I think I've seen some fan modes of the "evolutions" prime with a "base mode" Though even the TR Power Master base was a bit rough... I'm glad that Omega's tracks have "raised" connections points, since TR PM Prime's base seems to prefer elevated connectors.
Posted by Deadput on July 29th, 2019 @ 3:19am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Flashwave wrote:Deadput wrote:I think Star Saber as a retool of Jetfire is a possibility.
Nah, for me its a new mold Star Sber with Thunderwing the Co-Tool. But I am pretty sure I would rather have Star Saber as a Leader Class so that they can do Vic Leo as a Weaponizer or Voyager Weaponizer
Star Saber as a retool of Jetfire wouldn't work that well anyway, at least not if you wanted a real resemblance to the Victory version. Engineering's too different, I'd say.
Can't remember where I saw this but I saw a couple posts discussing stuff on Jetfire that seems that they could lend themselves towards a Star Saber retool.
Honestly there isn't really anyone else that makes sense to retool him from, straight repaints not included which seem more like Generation Selects type stuff.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 29th, 2019 @ 4:29am CDT

Actually I can see Star Saber as a commander class but only has a two pack with voyager Victory Lio
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 29th, 2019 @ 4:46am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I think we're more likely to see leader Class molds of both Star Saber and Deathsarus, based on the plans Hasbro had for the PotP poll. I also can't see them doing a downsized Omega, unless it's a new mold which has Omega turning into the Arkthe key here is scale since the designers seem so beholden to it.
Actually I can see Star Saber as a commander class but only has a two pack with voyager Victory Lio
A 2 pack with a leader Victory Saber and a voyager Victory Leo could be nice. However, in G1 and the toon, Leo was as big as Saber. So TWO leaders sold separately would be the best option. And if it's 2 leaders a case, a case of one Saber and one Leo would be the way to distribute them.