Top 5 Best Transformers Triplechanger Toys
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Top 5 Best Transformers Triplechanger Toys
Now a toy that changes from one form to the next is pretty awesome, as you can all attest to. But what about a toy that can change into 3 different forms? Transformers Triplechangers have been around since the G1 era and still thrive today. They are extremely tricky toys to pull off and thus there are very few amazing ones out there. Below are the ones that I feel pulled it off best across different eras and though they all have flaws, they are still pretty remarkable when you think of all the designing and engineering involved. Now all I required for something to be considered a triple changer to me were 3 distinct modes with 3 distinct play patterns.
5. Energon Shockblast
As you can tell from my #5 pick, I am looking at all robots that have three different modes, not just the classically labelled triple changers. Also, it's by looking beyond those that I realized Energon Shockblast does have three distinct forms and they work pretty well. Firstly, it is a gorgeous homage to G1 Shockwave and a much better placeholder in a Classics collection than the Generations figure we eventually got. His heft and size are perfect to represent this imposing robot. His tank mode works fine with a giant cannon that is very indicative of the character. It's also a rather sleek vehicle which hints as having as much speed and maneuverability as power. However, the real standout is the satellite mode. This is a very detailed and intricate third mode that will take anyone by surprise. The tank just splits into a myriad of ends with unfolding panels that give a beautiful sci fi look. The robot mode is very solid while also being sleek and with little kibble so you wouldn't think that he has so much hidden in him and that is why him having two other distinct forms is really surprising and gets him on this list.
4. Titans Return Astrotrain
Titans Return is the reason this list which was started back in 2014 took so long. Just as I was going to publish it, in comes a line which will include several triple changers per wave. So I waited for that one triple changer which really stood out. And it never came. Nothing was earth shattering or groundbreaking, especially when it came to the leaders with base modes which were also labelled as triplechangers. The voyagers had pros and cons all across which al made them about as good from one to the next. The ones with the best robot modes had poor alt modes (Alpha Trion) while there were some toys I found really great once you ignore their plane modes (Optimus and Braodside) which totally defeats the purpose of a triple changer. The one triple changer from all of Titans Return that I did think had redeeming qualities in all three modes was Astrotrain. I love the fluidity of the Transformation which tied back to the Stormbringer design. It is super cool to see older concepts brought to life and finally given a chance (come on Transtech Depthcharge!). Definitely a step up from previous attempts at this transformation scheme. I just find it a very elegant design which gives you an excellent G1 inspired robot mode whos deco rocked no matter which version you got. Plus, while heavily criticized, I think it was pretty cool to see an armoured train concept brought to life in the Transformers brand.
3. G1 Scorponok
Kids must have had a blast with Scorponok in the 80s as he is as fun a toy now, even with everything else that has come out since. Firstly, as a scorpion, his feet move as you roll him across the floor and the pincers have strong ratchets that lets you pick up any pesky autobot. Secondly,he is extremely imposing with his gigantic stature. He was actually the largest Decepticon toy in the G1 era and you can't conceptualize his girth until you see him in front of you, especially in robot mode. He's bigger than Trypticon, and that guy would go up against Metroplex, the CITY! Finally, speaking of cities, he also has a third playset/base mode that is pulled off surprisingly well, better than many of the Return of Convoy toys which also had a base mode as a third mode (especially this guy here). There are ramps for your little cars to roll off of or onto and the middle ramps even has a pushing mechanism so that your car can be pushed off the ramp. Also, the fact that he is a headmaster give you an extra little robot to interact with the base and it's many little interactive areas (like an elevator).
2. G1 Astrotrain and G1 Blitzwing
These are the best G1 triple changers due to the very accomplished alt modes which do not clash with one another. Let's start with Astrotrain. The train is my personal favourite since it looks like an oldschool steam engine and pulls the look off elegantly, if you ignore the boosters in the back. Also, this toy's genius may not be as evident now as it was then but there are two remarkable aspects about this toy that may be forgotten. Firstly, it is the very first Transformer toy to have ball joints (for his arms), and thus extra articulation. Secondly, this toy is from 1985, just three years after the first operational flights of the space shuttle, so it was a very up to date alt mode at the time and a pretty accomplished one despite the more angular middlesection.
Blitzwing on the other hand has so much win since his two alt modes actually look more realized than Astrotrain's. They don't look odd and each of them don't seem to transform into something else aside of a robot. This is the only toy of the character where there is nothing off about the jet mode, unlike the Animated or Generations version. I especially love the simple and elegant folding mechanism that hides away the thread design for the tank. I really couldn't pick between these two and the fact that I find those alt mode combinations more accomplished than their classic updates really means something. They are both great examples of the potential for triple changers and have been so for 30 years.
1. Generations Springer and Sandstorm
What can be said that hasn't been said before. The Springer toy has been voted the best Transformers toy since the brand began back in 1984, and for good reason. All three modes work. The car is beefy while the helicopter is sleek and best of all, nothing obstructs or brings unnecessary kibble to the robot mode which is one of the sleekest designs ever found for a robot. This is undoubtedly the best articulated robot mode on this list, and he is a joy to pose. His robot mode is the best of the three since both alt modes have some flaws. However, it is the fact that all three modes are distinct while finally accomplishing a faithful interpretation of the character, especially the on spot look of Nick Roache's design, with a kickass robot mode that makes this the very best Triple Changer of all time. The Sandstorm figure takes a few more liberties from the character's roots but it all works just as well. While I am not the biggest fan of those giant wheels and how they add kibble to the robot mode, it does give him some nice bulk and I love how they both look like wheels on one side and VTOL propellers on the other. He tabs in even tighter than Springer! In short, these are both fantastic examples of a triple changer and it is a mold everyone should experience.
Honourable mentions: G1 Broadside, ha! Just messing. There is another toy I wanted to talk about but I don't know if he's a triple changer, so I will only mention him here:
Energon Tidal Wave (Shock Wave)
The reason he is an honourable metion and not on the list is because I didn't see Tidal Wave as a triple changer but instead a robot made up of smaller non transforming toys, like Magmatron or ROTF Devastator. However I realized that unlike those toys, these smaller vehicles do not combine to form a robot, they combine to form the robot's alt mode, which is a whole different ball game (of awesome). This makes this an amazing, intricate and unique Transformer with three distinct forms. Let's go through this. Firstly, there are three very different vehicles, and each of them have their own fun gimmick. The aircraft carrier is actually in scale with the actual airplane it comes with and features an elevator for the plane (which also transforms into a little robot). There is also a shuttle (well supposedly it is a troop landing craft) which has one of the cutest gimmicks ever. You open it up and you get an open area with benches for little robots (minicons) to sit. You then have a cosmic battleship with activated turrets once a minicon is plugged, triggering the action feature. These three ships then combine together to form a big warship, that strikes me more as a bigger version of the lego spaceships from the 80s (SPACESHIPS!). And then, this warship (SPACESHIPS!) formed from three seemingly non transforming vehicles actually transforms into a giant robot. It is really impressive, and totally surreal in a way, how you transform the alt mode as if it was one vehicle and not something made up of smaller vehicles. This means that you do not have to disconnect the separate vehicles to form the robot. Everything is in place for you to transform him from one mode to the next, with the combined warship mode serving as an intermediary between the robot mode and the three separate ships. So he is a triple altmode triple transformer (what would Thew call that?)
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Posted by Quantum Surge on January 13th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CST
Posted by Rated X on January 13th, 2018 @ 1:45pm CST
Kinda disagree on Shockblast though. Is that thing really a "satellite" or just a 3rd BS mode they came up with? Even the tank mode barely looks like a vechicle. Might as well call TR Blaster and PM Prime triple changers too if you count the BS 3rd modes Hasbro creates in the name of "playability".
Posted by frogbat on January 13th, 2018 @ 2:12pm CST
Skorponok is a great choice too, though I’d have find it hard to choose between him, trypticon and metroplex. The 2 headmaster triplechangers were always on my wish list but never had the opportunity to acquire them...
Posted by kurthy on January 13th, 2018 @ 2:34pm CST
Is BW optimal Optimus disqualified for having technically 4 modes despite there not being much difference between the flight mode and car mode?
And definitely missing Animated shockwave and Blitzwing.
Posted by DMSL on January 13th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 13th, 2018 @ 4:30pm CST
But since citybots are included, not only should G1 Fortress Maximus be on the list, he should be at the top. I do agree that Generations Sandstorm and Springer should be high on the list as well.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on January 13th, 2018 @ 4:45pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on January 13th, 2018 @ 5:06pm CST
The same gun being the defining trait in each mode kinda makes them feel less distinct, too. I mean, G1 Astrotrain and Blitzwing somehow changed their primary colors around, yet Shockblast's entire upper body is virtually the same in all three of his forms...
I nominate Shuffler (elephant/tank/missile launcher!) and maybe Transquito (he's kinda crappy, but the "attack mode" is actually a whip spider, so bonus points for that)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on January 13th, 2018 @ 5:47pm CST
Personally though, I'd probably bump shock last off simply due to being a bit cumbersome in all his modes- the tank mode especially is a bit daft. I'd also be inclined to knock off the G1 figures, actually
In their place, Titans Return Megatron would definitely get a shot. Amazingly proportioned robot mode, two incredibly solid alt-modes, a fun but if titan master playability, and the closest we've gotten to a mtmte-styled megs yet. I'd begrudgingly concede the position to blitzwing, but personally it's megs any day, while the optimus felt borderline forced from octane, megs utterly owned that mold imo.
Also, flipping thrilled to see the love for tidal wave! He's been one of my fave figured since I was a littl'un, for both his absolute heftitude and his assorted play options. Don't forget the (admittedly ridiculous) powerlinx armour mode! I'd have gone with the hasbro armada deco, but that's just down to personal preference .
Posted by cruizerdave on January 13th, 2018 @ 6:06pm CST
Anyway, keep up the good work !
Posted by Emerje on January 13th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CST
I personally would have replaced him with G1 Doubledealer. I get that technically he only has one alt mode and two bot modes, but that's really splitting hairs, he's still a character with three very distinct modes (unlike Punch/Counterpunch with two humanoid bot modes).
william-james88 wrote:The reason he is an honourable metion and not on the list is because I didn't see Tidal Wave as a triple changer but instead a robot made up of smaller non transforming toys, like Magmatron or ROTF Devastator. However I realized that unlike those toys, these smaller vehicles do not combine to form a robot, they combine to form the robot's alt mode,
Hey now, Magmatron has a third alt mode, too.
You know what? Some things are better left forgotten...
Emerje
Posted by Evil Eye on January 13th, 2018 @ 6:52pm CST
Energon Shockwave/Blast is a nice pick, though I really, really wish his waist locked in properly (and didn't break in half at the drop of a hat ). I personally love the satellite mode, and whilst the big electronic cannon arm is awkward, it sure looks cool. It'd be less of a pain where it not for that worthless waist.
I'd be tempted to add BW Rampage to the list- he's a decent toy, and his third mode (a giant crabby triple-barreled tank) is actually pretty awesome.
Posted by shajaki on January 13th, 2018 @ 7:12pm CST
Here's my list!
This guy would be much higher if it weren't for the issues with the mold. But he makes an eerily good and unique Starscream. And having one myself, I can say he has a real premium feel to him.
You don't think this qualifies? Don't care. It's awesome. That is all
He's G1, and in shocking simplicity pulls off 3 fantastic modes. I was almost tempted to make HIM number one.
He's pretty great, and well deserving after the Generations letdown. Pulls off all modes well, but it was hard choosing between him and Megatron...
Legends Springer. The greatness of this mold doesn't need to be talked about any more, its well known. And while this version has a blindingly bright green, it is the most accurate scheme to date.
Posted by william-james88 on January 13th, 2018 @ 10:44pm CST
kurthy wrote:I don't think you should include city bots or other toys where the 3rd mode is a base mode.
Hasbro made is pretty clear that these toys with base modes are now labeled as triple changers:
Transformers Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime Gallery
Plus, they have been called triple changers since G1:
So not counting them would go against the Transformers brand and my lists are all about seeing how amazing the breadth of this brand is.
Otherwise, I might say G1 PMOP is a better triple changer than G1 Scorponok.
Thats cool! I disagree though, G1 PMOP has a good robot and alt mode but his base mode is pretty terrible.
I also don't like G1 Astrotrain and Blitzwing sharing the same slot. It's not like they're mold mates.
Your right, its not. But I couldnt place one higher than the other. They both had the same positives for me and the same negatives due to them coming from the same era. So while not the same mold, they both embody the very same type of toy and I prefered making the list more varied as opposed to having an arbitrary rank and repeat the same thing twice.
Is BW optimal Optimus disqualified for having technically 4 modes despite there not being much difference between the flight mode and car mode?
Yup, he would be disqualified due to having 4 official modes. Also, I find the car and flight mode quite different. The car mode makes use of the wheel while the flight mode has the arms stretched fowrad and makes use of that impressive winsgpan.
And definitely missing Animated shockwave and Blitzwing.
Animated Shockwave has 4 modes as well and his alt modes are pretty terrible. Blitzwing is easily one of the worst toys from the animated line due to how fiddly he is and the tank threads being so obvious under that jet. I am surprised he is getting this much love. had I known, I would have placed him in my "most overrated toys" list. I really dont like that toy.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, this list should have been thought out a little better as far as the qualifications.
But since citybots are included, not only should G1 Fortress Maximus be on the list, he should be at the top. I do agree that Generations Sandstorm and Springer should be high on the list as well.
I made it as simple as possible, its right there in the intro. And why would Fortress Maximus be at the top of a triple changer list when one of his three modes looks like an afterthought with nothing discernible about it?
Noideaforaname wrote::lol: Starting off the list with Shockwave doing I'm a Little Teapot.
The same gun being the defining trait in each mode kinda makes them feel less distinct, too. I mean, G1 Astrotrain and Blitzwing somehow changed their primary colors around, yet Shockblast's entire upper body is virtually the same in all three of his forms...
I nominate Shuffler (elephant/tank/missile launcher!) and maybe Transquito (he's kinda crappy, but the "attack mode" is actually a whip spider, so bonus points for that)
Excellent points all around. But I like how the shape of the shockblast fundamentally changes from form to form. In robot mode, he's clearly asymetrical due to the arms. And yet in both satelite and tank mode he becomes fully symetrical. I thought that was ver witty of the designers. But yeah, the G1 toys are way better at the change, hence why they are both awesome and both placed at the number 2 spot.
Shuffler is a great nomination and something I clearly did not think about, so thanks for bringing him up!
cruizerdave wrote:Great list, but Titans Blitzwing is so much better than Titans Astrotrain. Heck, Titans Octane (Octone?) is way better than the Astrotrain.
Anyway, keep up the good work !
Thanks so much for the kind words (this thanks goes out to everyone). As you can tell, this list was tough. from what to consider to what was better. Its really hard with these triple changers since one mode is always weaker than the others. TR Blitzwing and Octone are not bad by any stretch and I am glad to have them both but there is stuff that irks me about them. With Astrotrain, they went for a completely new direction so its hard to judge. I think they did very well with what they were aiming for. But with Blitzwing and Octone, they went fully G1 and it meant some sacrifices had to be made (in very different ways).
With Blitzwing, I really hate that fake chest. What bothers me even more is that the fake chest cockpit part ends up right being the actual cockpit in jet mode. It looks dumb as fuck. Plus, unlike the G1 toy, you dont get the cool colour swap and the tank mode has some dumb purple on it (including the canon aaargh!). I personally feel this works better as Megatron but then that defeats the purpose of the mold (plus he has those dumb stickers, wonky QC with the threads in plane mode, half the fusion cannon miscoloured and that weird looking backpack with the canon tip).
Octone just has really bad qc. Either the wings are super loose in robot mode or the plane cockpit wont be flush (due to the thick paint). Or both. But man, if everything was tight, then for sure that would have been on the list. For now though, I actually like him better as Laser Prime and I think he is downright awesome as that, but thats because the plane mode and plane parts are completely ignored (like the wings folding in the back) which definitely defeats the purpose of him being a triple changer.
Basically, both Blitzwing and Octone (and their mold mates) dissapointed me in some level, but Astrotrain was doing his own thing and I wasnt dissapointed.
Posted by leokearon on January 14th, 2018 @ 1:55am CST
Blitzwing on the other hand has so much win since his two alt modes actually look more realized than Astrotrain's. They don't look odd and each of them don't seem to transform into something else aside of a robot.
Except for the fact that Blitzwing has a bloddy Tank Turrent on his undercarriage, which even to his they can't fix. Still good list. Though I wouldn't have put TR Astrotrain, G1 Doubledealer would have been my choice.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 14th, 2018 @ 2:36am CST
I think Titans Return Megatron has to be my fave triple changer cos he looks good in all three modes, all of which have some degree of 'realism' rather than just totally made up sci-fi modes, transforms very nicely and is a fun figure (and I haven't had ANY QC issues with mine at all, not in stickers or anything. Hell I had a bitch of a time trying to peel off the chest stickers cos I didn't want them). Yeah, Blitzwing probably nice too for personal preference but my Megatron is my definitive (for now) G1 Megatron (especially since I put that scaled down KO CW Megatron head on it for a meaner look).
TR Astrotrain doesn't work for me at all. His alt-modes just look goofy and his robot mode has always been a bit dull. Still he's better than Sentinel Prime even just for not being in an eye-burning colour scheme.
And most base modes look like absolute junk even when it's the primary alt-mode of the figure but Scorponok's always did look kinda neat in a way.
Nothing off about G1 Blitzwing's jet mode? Seriously? With all that junk under the wings? And his robot mode was always kinda crappy.
Energon Shockblast just looks far too messy to me. Especially that satellite mode. Me no like.
Posted by Michael Alex Kawa on January 14th, 2018 @ 3:21am CST
I do agree that G1 Scorponok was a valid choice, no matter what others have said. Unlike the other city/base bots, he is a city that changes into a beast, not a battle station, but a scorpion.
But this is also why I think that G1 Doubledealer should been on this list, if you look at the vehicle mode you would never think it could change into that hawk (it is a hawk right ), yes I know it is his "Decepticon" mode, but it still is not a robot mode.
I am surprised that none of the Revenge of the Fallen Triplechangers didn't make the list, like Soundwave or Mixmaster.....I mean really .........just kidding.
I guess I agree with most of the list, besides what I have already mentioned, maybe I would have had Dreadwing from G2 on the list, sure maybe his tank mode is not the best, but he is one AWESOMELY RAD figure, and one of my all time favorites.
Posted by RacerCheetor on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:12am CST
IDW's Beast Wars Sourcebook identified Bigmos as a Triple Changer, despite not having that official title until then.
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 14th, 2018 @ 5:39am CST
I'm guessing my list for two alts 1 robot, no base mode would be this from fun/playability.
1.galvatron g1 (encore cartoon colours release) due to it being one of the largest tripple changers with out a base mode
2.G1 Blitzwing, its just hard to resist transforming or leaving in display in one mode for any length of time
3.Springer
4.bw tm seekers
5.ta blitzwing/tr blitzwing (only have the megatron use of the mold at the mo) both of these toys equally seem to be prone to parts falling off when transforming, if not for that, they would be higher up than springer -ta just because of the 3 faces play feature and its modes are more stand out, dominion tank police style tank to a jet and the tr being a headmaster/can have a pilot in its cockpit.
Honorable mention armada lazerbeak -yes an autobot lazerbeak should be an abomination but it works some how (and probably kept the name trademarked) and lazerbeaks robotic bird is his robot mode anyhoos.
Ehobby magnificus (perceptor) with it having a guy to ride it in tank mode.
My two robots 1 alt tripple changer list would definitely feature these guys:
g1 ultra magnus
mp rodimus prime
ta shockwave
classics punch/counter punch
Posted by X3ROhour on January 14th, 2018 @ 7:17am CST
you forgot something
TRANSMETALS
namely, the awesome coolness of
RATTRAP
TARANTULAS
RHINOX
TERROSAUR
DEPTHCHARGE
&
RAMPAGE!!!!
even the frakkin WASPINATOR ROCKS!
i even chose TRANSMETAL
as my own AltMode.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 14th, 2018 @ 7:58am CST
I don't agree both G1 Astrotrain and Blitzwing should be on the same spot. Because they are not repaint/remolds of one another. Beside, G1 Astrotrain is just PERFECT in every way. G1 Blitzwing is not too good. Unstability in the legs and that huge tank turret hanging off the jet's underside just look out of place.
I never really liked Generations Springer so I got rid of him. However, Generations Sandstorm is amazing. I just love all of his modes.
Finally, G1 Scorponok is one of my best Transformers purchase ever. 405$CAN was a LOT of money for a single toy, but for how perfect my 100% complete one is, that was ironically a deal. G1 Scorponok is imposing and FUN to play with. The bot mode is magnificent, the scorpion is just okay, but where he really shine is his marvelous city mode. G1 really knew how to make bases/city modes look great. Too bad none of the modern Transformers (including third party ones) can pull a half decent base/city mode.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 14th, 2018 @ 8:24am CST
Z3ROhour wrote:IMHO
you forgot something
TRANSMETALS
namely, the awesome coolness of
RATTRAP
TARANTULAS
RHINOX
TERROSAUR
DEPTHCHARGE
&
RAMPAGE!!!!
even the frakkin WASPINATOR ROCKS!
i even chose TRANSMETAL
as my own AltMode.
Ninja'd.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 14th, 2018 @ 9:23am CST
Emerje wrote:I personally would have replaced him with G1 Doubledealer. I get that technically he only has one alt mode and two bot modes, but that's really splitting hairs, he's still a character with three very distinct modes (unlike Punch/Counterpunch with two humanoid bot modes).
Emerje
G1 Doubledealer is one of my favorite G1 Transformers ever. However, that bird mode is far from perfect with his huge ass. Long ago I made a CUSTOM with an accidental rocking bird mode. Even though I built it, that final result was unexpected.
Posted by frogbat on January 14th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CST
Posted by ZeroGFrame on January 14th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 14th, 2018 @ 3:55pm CST
frogbat wrote:Forgot bout doubledealer... awesome toy. Really loved his bot and launcher mode,the bird less so but wouldn’t mind a proper update, even perhaps one where they replaced the bird mode with a plane and not a repaint of a lousy figure]
There's a fan-made bird mode on the CHUG version, plus it wasn't a straight-up repaint, having a remolded head.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on January 14th, 2018 @ 5:05pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2018 @ 9:17pm CST
frogbat wrote:Forgot bout doubledealer... awesome toy. Really loved his bot and launcher mode,the bird less so but wouldn’t mind a proper update, even perhaps one where they replaced the bird mode with a plane
Oh man, I have some great news for you...
and not a repaint of a lousy figure]
Oh wait, scratch that
ZeroGFrame wrote:Ha, the main page image had me going! You've got Generations Blitzwing in there, which I find to be a TERRIBLE toy. Floppy joints, doesn't hold together, awkward bot proportions, and unconvincing alt-modes... I see someone else put Cloud Starscream in their list, and he was a creative reworking, but I just think it's an awful toy...
Yeah, dont worry, I just wanted to have a picture of multiple triple changers in one image without revealing too much of the list. And I agree, its a terrible toy. I greatly dislike it, especially in plane mode with the middle section being so empty. It feels super cheap too with how thin some plastic parts feel. I will definitely concede that the choices on my list are not the obvious things people may be thinking but the more and more I see of the alternatives shared here in the comments, it seems no one can really agree on what the best triple changers are or even what to include in them. It would have been a tough list for anyone to write, but this discussion is fun
As for those who like Octone, thats cool, but man there might have been loads of hate (from myself included) if I would have included it, I was looking online and this is one of the most hated toys of the year.
Z3ROhour wrote:IMHO
you forgot something
TRANSMETALS
Haha, yeah, I know those. And I didnt forget them, I just really felt they were worst examples of triple changers than anthing else I could put. They really feel more like added on modes rather than something fully distinct (which is what their goal was anyway). It is cool that they have dedicated parts, but I feel really weird saying that a gorilla on a surfboard is a different alt mode than simply the gorilla.
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2018 @ 9:58pm CST
blackeyedprime wrote:My two robots 1 alt tripple changer list would definitely feature these guys:
mp rodimus prime
ta shockwave
But both of those have two alt modes.
-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 Doubledealer is one of my favorite G1 Transformers ever. However, that bird mode is far from perfect with his huge ass.
See, I've heard people complain about this before, but to me it's just a very simplified representation of a tail. His "falcon" mode really looks more like a vulture which usually fly with narrow tails rather than the fanning tails a lot of birds have.
Maybe they should have put some feather patters on the bottom of the truck parts/back of the bot legs like some of the other bird parts?
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2018 @ 10:06pm CST
Emerje wrote:really looks more like a vulture which usually fly with narrow tails rather than the fanning tails a lot of birds have.
Thats a fun take on it. Along the same lines, what do you think the giant missile between his legs represents in the bird's anatomy?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 14th, 2018 @ 10:19pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:really looks more like a vulture which usually fly with narrow tails rather than the fanning tails a lot of birds have.
Thats a fun take on it. Along the same lines, what do you think the giant missile between his legs represents in the bird's anatomy?
Not *that*, in case anyone's wondering: most birds don't have one.
And I think that's a minor goof on Hasbro's part, as the front of the missile doesn't fit exactly in the clasp. Instead, I have the missile as one piece on his back, like Doubleclouder.
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2018 @ 10:23pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:really looks more like a vulture which usually fly with narrow tails rather than the fanning tails a lot of birds have.
Thats a fun take on it. Along the same lines, what do you think the giant missile between his legs represents in the bird's anatomy?
A missile like any other bird, what else?
Emerje
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 14th, 2018 @ 11:02pm CST
william-james88 wrote:frogbat wrote:Forgot bout doubledealer... awesome toy. Really loved his bot and launcher mode,the bird less so but wouldn’t mind a proper update, even perhaps one where they replaced the bird mode with a plane
Oh man, I have some great news for you...and not a repaint of a lousy figure]
Oh wait, scratch thatZeroGFrame wrote:Ha, the main page image had me going! You've got Generations Blitzwing in there, which I find to be a TERRIBLE toy. Floppy joints, doesn't hold together, awkward bot proportions, and unconvincing alt-modes... I see someone else put Cloud Starscream in their list, and he was a creative reworking, but I just think it's an awful toy...
Yeah, dont worry, I just wanted to have a picture of multiple triple changers in one image without revealing too much of the list. And I agree, its a terrible toy. I greatly dislike it, especially in plane mode with the middle section being so empty. It feels super cheap too with how thin some plastic parts feel. I will definitely concede that the choices on my list are not the obvious things people may be thinking but the more and more I see of the alternatives shared here in the comments, it seems no one can really agree on what the best triple changers are or even what to include in them. It would have been a tough list for anyone to write, but this discussion is fun
As for those who like Octone, thats cool, but man there might have been loads of hate (from myself included) if I would have included it, I was looking online and this is one of the most hated toys of the year.Z3ROhour wrote:IMHO
you forgot something
TRANSMETALS
Haha, yeah, I know those. And I didnt forget them, I just really felt they were worst examples of triple changers than anthing else I could put. They really feel more like added on modes rather than something fully distinct (which is what their goal was anyway). It is cool that they have dedicated parts, but I feel really weird saying that a gorilla on a surfboard is a different alt mode than simply the gorilla.
However, Transmetal Waspinator turned into a full jet mode. It's brilliant.
Posted by Bradimus on January 14th, 2018 @ 11:11pm CST
My one issue is I don't think G1 Scorponok should be included as I don't consider base modes as part of the definition of a triple changer. I agree with the comment that G1 Astrotrain and G1 Blitzwing should have each held their own spots on the list with G1 Scorponok excluded.
Looking forward to the next one.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 14th, 2018 @ 11:15pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 15th, 2018 @ 12:07am CST
Bradimus wrote:Good list! I completely agree with number one.
My one issue is I don't think G1 Scorponok should be included as I don't consider base modes as part of the definition of a triple changer. I agree with the comment that G1 Astrotrain and G1 Blitzwing should have each held their own spots on the list with G1 Scorponok excluded.
Looking forward to the next one.
The next one is gonna be fun and like nothing I have done before, I am looking forward to sharing it with you.
About G1 Astrotrain and Blitzwing, which do you feel is better and why?
Ultra Markus wrote:you put scorpinok in the #3 spot but dont give Trypticon a notice for honerable mentions at the very least for both TR and G1 versions? no love here
Yeah, I just dont really think Trypticon has 3 good and distinct modes (same with Fort Max). But hey if you enjoy all his modes, then thats awesome!
Posted by bacem on January 15th, 2018 @ 2:42am CST
however, i think TR octane still deserve to be on the list, replacing shockblast. maybe it is the case with mine not having any noticeable QC issue, but i enjoy him a lot. his robot mode looks really good, tanker mode looks quite spot on, and the jet mode is an improvement from laser optimus prime version, IMO.
also agreed that doubledealer should be on the list, but that is mostly due to my strange personal attraction to his overly-manly-bird mode.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:29am CST
Posted by bacem on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:47am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Don't you mean Octane?
yes, octane. my bad, thanks. edited.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 15th, 2018 @ 4:35am CST
bacem wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Don't you mean Octane?
yes, octane. my bad, thanks. edited.
That's Octone, kind sirs.
Posted by Windsweeper on January 15th, 2018 @ 10:07am CST
Neither Astrotrain is great. The Titans Return is bland and disappointingly small.
As much as I love my G1 Scorponok, his base mode is terrible.
I would have added Titans Return to the list. He's great in every mode and you can put figures inside him.
G1 Metroplex, Snapdragon, Doubledealer and Springer are nice too. Though Snapdragon's dragon mode isn't perfect, it did scale nicely with G1 Grimlock giving the latter a suitable opponent.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 15th, 2018 @ 10:11am CST
I don't get what you mean by 3 not good and distinct alt modes there's clearly a difference between the 3william-james88 wrote:Bradimus wrote:Good list! I completely agree with number one.
My one issue is I don't think G1 Scorponok should be included as I don't consider base modes as part of the definition of a triple changer. I agree with the comment that G1 Astrotrain and G1 Blitzwing should have each held their own spots on the list with G1 Scorponok excluded.
Looking forward to the next one.
The next one is gonna be fun and like nothing I have done before, I am looking forward to sharing it with you.
About G1 Astrotrain and Blitzwing, which do you feel is better and why?Ultra Markus wrote:you put scorpinok in the #3 spot but dont give Trypticon a notice for honerable mentions at the very least for both TR and G1 versions? no love here
Yeah, I just dont really think Trypticon has 3 good and distinct modes (same with Fort Max). But hey if you enjoy all his modes, then thats awesome!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 15th, 2018 @ 10:24am CST
Ultra Markus wrote:]I don't get what you mean by 3 not good and distinct alt modes there's clearly a difference between the 3
Fortmax's spaceship mode is basically just him lying face-down.
As for Tripticon, his spaceship mode is the base mode with the "arms" tucked in. Tiny winny wings don't hide that fact.
What make a "true" AND good triple changer is when all modes are completely different from one another.
Posted by kurthy on January 15th, 2018 @ 10:33am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:]I don't get what you mean by 3 not good and distinct alt modes there's clearly a difference between the 3
Fortmax's spaceship mode is basically just him lying face-down.
As for Tripticon, his spaceship mode is the base mode with the "arms" tucked in. Tiny winny wings don't hide that fact.
What make a "true" AND good triple changer is when all modes are completely different from one another.
Basically, compare G1 springer to Generations Springer. G1 Springer has two alt modes, but to get to one from the other one you flip the tires around and add/remove the rotor and you're done. They look very similar, just like Trypticon's base mode and spaceship/battlestation mode. G1 blitzwing and astrotrain have similarly simple changes, but they drastically change the profile.
Posted by william-james88 on January 15th, 2018 @ 10:50am CST
Windsweeper wrote:I would have added Titans Return to the list.
The whole line?
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 15th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:bacem wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Don't you mean Octane?
yes, octane. my bad, thanks. edited.
That's Octone, kind sirs.
Not if you live in Japan. The box states "Octane" in English, and "Oktone" in Japanese.
Posted by Emerje on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:10pm CST
Windsweeper wrote:Neither Astrotrain is great. The Titans Return is bland and disappointingly small.
Do you mean small as in you'd rather he was Leader class or small as a figure because he's one of the biggest Voyagers in the line?
Emerje
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 15th, 2018 @ 8:22pm CST
Yet it's still a better triple changer than every toy on willy's list, except maybe Generations Sandstorm/Springer.-Kanrabat- wrote:Fortmax's spaceship mode is basically just him lying face-down.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 15th, 2018 @ 9:09pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yet it's still a better triple changer than every toy on willy's list, except maybe Generations Sandstorm/Springer.-Kanrabat- wrote:Fortmax's spaceship mode is basically just him lying face-down.
G1 Fortmax's city mode: YES!
The Spaceship mode? No. Just no.
Might as well call all TR Leaders "triple changers".
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 15th, 2018 @ 11:48pm CST
You're entitled to your opinion, even if I vehemently disagree.-Kanrabat- wrote:G1 Fortmax's city mode: YES!
The Spaceship mode? No. Just no.
If they have 3 modes, sure.Might as well call all TR Leaders "triple changers".