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Psychography wrote:

Zeedust wrote:We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Liokaiser?

Zeedust wrote:

Psychography wrote:

Zeedust wrote:We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Liokaiser?

I thought we were talking about individual robot heads rather than combiner heads. Sky Lynx's robot head would probably be hard to do anything with, given that it's part of his vehicle mode and there's nobody else who really looks like him, so I don't think that part's likely to change.

The Club magazine arrived today, and they have a spread on the 6 TFSS 5.0 figures.

Notable bits include:
-Registration for 5.0 supposedly opens this week
-The Paradron Medic is called 'Lifeline'
-Toxitron, Fractyl, and Counterpunch are all designated 'Wreckers' and seem intended to combine

There's a bio for Lifeline (and TFSS 4.0 Impactor) towards the end of the magazine, I've included a shot of that as well.

Hellscream9999 wrote:So Wreckers are a mix of and now? That seems a little weird, so who's stuff do they wreck now since they're comprised of a mix of allegiances?

Hellscream9999 wrote:So Wreckers are a mix of and now? That seems a little weird, so who's stuff do they wreck now since they're comprised of a mix of allegiances?

Deadput wrote:It is a Wreckers combiner and the Combiner's name is Wreckage.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either.


But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either. But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Who says it has to be Toxitron,

Hellscream9999 wrote:is that a thing?

Hellscream9999 wrote:As 'Wreckers', I could see using Scattershot or Onslaught, since Onslaught was just used, I think Scattershot with a new head and combiner head and a bunch of guns would have been pretty cool

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

RevTibe wrote:Ohhhh, is there an element of "Motormaster/Optimus mold was already slotted for our use, we cannot practically change the mold in reaction to Takara's Grand Scourge, but we can change the deco."?

Optimutt wrote:Any word on the Ratbat and hologram Megatron toys? Have they given and details about how to get our eager little paws on them?

RevTibe wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

Ohhhh, is there an element of "Motormaster/Optimus mold was already slotted for our use, we cannot practically change the mold in reaction to Takara's Grand Scourge, but we can change the deco."?

G.B. Blackrock wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So Wreckers are a mix of and now? That seems a little weird, so who's stuff do they wreck now since they're comprised of a mix of allegiances?

(EDIT: The bio referencing "Survivors" seems to be a decided nod to the UK stuff)

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Who says it has to be Toxitron,

Who else would they make a mold with an "evil Optimus Prime" head out of when Nemesis Prime is off the table and SG Optimus is no more?

Hellscream9999 wrote:is that a thing?

Yes.

Hellscream9999 wrote:As 'Wreckers', I could see using Scattershot or Onslaught, since Onslaught was just used, I think Scattershot with a new head and combiner head and a bunch of guns would have been pretty cool

Except Scattershot was just used too. For Sea Clamp.

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

megatronus wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

If I were a betting man, I would sure wager on that! Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

If I were a betting man, I would sure wager on that! Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Imagine if this combiner had both Punch and Counterpunch and they were the arms.

"I'm gonna punch you!"
"Then I'll Counter-punch you!"

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either.

But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either.

But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

But if the head was pretooled, why wasn't it used on Grand Scourge?.

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

People said the same about why Slingshot wouldn't be released under combiner wars and, well, he was.

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

People said the same about why Slingshot wouldn't be released under combiner wars and, well, he was.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The point is that the Motormaster tooling has an alternate head built in (that "Nemesis Prime" head. In fact, every CW toy has two heads) that would have gone unused by Hasbro and TakaraTomy, so FunPub decided it would be perfect to use and build a character around it, without going through the expense of making a new one from scratch. Since TakaraTomy already released a Nemesis Prime-like character, using the same base mold (those get tiring... nope, already run down) they used their fallback: Toxitron.

Sabrblade wrote:The Club was gonna make use of the Motormaster mold's alternate headsculpt by turning it into Nemesis Prime, but when Takara made Grand Scourge out of the regular Optimus mold, that made the Club's plans for Nemesis Prime redundant, so they switched the deco into Toxitron instead.

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

RevTibe wrote:
That, and I doubt Optimus #3 is the only pretooled voyager head gone unused in the pretool-happy Combiner Wars line - I'd imagine there'd be interest in unveiling an unused Hot Spot pretool head. These factors left me curious about whether or not FunPub was already "locked" to using the MM/OP mold.

Diem wrote:

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

Was the word "removing" used? Because that seems like a loaded word to me.

Autobot N wrote:

Diem wrote:

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

Was the word "removing" used? Because that seems like a loaded word to me.

Yes. Lifeline (censored so I don't spoil the comic for people that haven't read it) specifically says (and I quote) "We were able to save him only by removing the impaired mode completely."

william-james88 wrote:

-Registration for 5.0 supposedly opens this week

Diem wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Diem wrote:

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

Was the word "removing" used? Because that seems like a loaded word to me.

Yes. Lifeline (censored so I don't spoil the comic for people that haven't read it) specifically says (and I quote) "We were able to save him only by removing the impaired mode completely."

Sounds like a very intentional word choice to me.

Emerje wrote:Can't say I'm a big fan of Punch/Counterpunch having a split personality since he's supposed to be an Autobot doublespy. Counterpunch should still technically be an Autobot despite his outward appearance so removing his Autobot mode would just leave him stuck in his disguise. Even if there was a split personality thing going on (he has one in some stories) I don't really see why the Autobot personality would go with the removed Autobot parts, he only has one brain (and technically only one head with two faces) so the personality should still be there, just dormant.

TF_JW wrote:The idea of Counterpunch being a developing split personality after years of having been a simple alias was started back in 2003 in the MTMTE profile series.

Transformers Universe wrote:PUNCH

ALLEGIANCE: AUTOBOT
FUNCTION: DOUBLE AGENT
FIRST APPEARANCE: -

"In my business, there are no friends, only suspects."

Profile: On the surface, Punch is as cool-headed and well-adjusted a character as you could wish to meet. At times of crisis, he keeps his head and takes command, his authoritative nature and imposing presence helping to calm those around him. Many are the Autobots who have admired his tight-lipped, stoic attitude. But Punch fools himself almost as completely as he fools others. He likes to think that he is a robot of few words because, in his business, to say too much is to invite death. In truth, Punch says little because he distrusts absolutely everyone! His role as double agent, constantly switching his appearance to Counterpunch so as to blend in with the Decepticon forces, has left him a paranoid bundle of neuro-circuits. He hides it well, but Punch is constantly on edge, guarding against possible betrayal (from his fellow Autobots) and discovery (by the Decepticons). Only Autobot leader Optimus Prime suspects that Punch's long undercover operations, taking him into the dark heart of the Decepticon camp, may be having an adverse effect. He sees not the calm, aloof warrior others see. He sees a powder keg, about to explode. Knowing how easily and confidently he walks with the Decepticons, Punch looks at his fellow Autobots, wondering if one of them is actually a Decepticon double-agent. Despite all of this, there is no doubting Punch's courage and dedication. Each time Punch receives another infiltration mission, Optimus Prime gives him the chance to back out with absolutely no loss of face. And each time, Punch remains silent.


COUNTERPUNCH

ALLEGIANCE: DECEPTICON
FUNCTION: DOUBLE AGENT
FIRST APPEARANCE: -

"In my business, there are no friends, only suspects."

Profile: When Punch becomes Counterpunch, he not only changes his outer appearance; his whole personality changes as well. The bizarre fact is, neither Punch nor Counterpunch are aware that there is any mental change. A psychomechanic could make a fortune out of him, because Punch/Counterpunch is one of the best examples of schizophrenia (or split personality). Though, as Counterpunch, he retains his Autobot sensibilities (and carries out his double-agent duties; infiltrating and reporting on Decepticon troop movements and capabilities), he becomes more Decepticon than Autobot. Like Punch, he is tight-lipped and resolute, but where Punch uses mercy and restraint, Counterpunch can be every bit as ruthless as other Decepticons. Even his 'fellow' Decepticons give him a wide berth, knowing him to be volatile and bad-tempered. A casual, jokey remark is often seen as a savage personal attack by Counterpunch, and rarely passes without some form of retribution from him. It can be theorized that perhaps the constant knife-edge pressure has gradually gotten to Punch, and that part of him has been lost, possibly irredeemably. So convincing is Punch's Decepticon alter ego that he was put in charge of the Decepticons' intelligence network, gathering information on the Autobots and controlling the many Decepticon field operatives. This role presents Punch/Counterpunch with a unique problem. How can he maintain his cover and get results, without compromising his fellow Autobots? The great fear is that one day, Counterpunch will take full control of the shared mind, spelling disaster for the Autobots!


Abilities: As both Punch and Counterpunch, he can transform into a sleek, aerodynamic car capable of reaching a maximum speed of 160 miles per hour, with a range of 1200 miles. In Autobot mode, he uses a twin mortar launcher capable of firing its highly-combustible firebombs a distance of 3000 yards. In Decepticon mode, he wields a photon cannon, which emits a high-density stream of circuit-scrambling energy, destroying enemies from the inside out. In order to maintain Punch's cover, all Autobots are fitted with a damper device that reduces the cannon's effect but produces enough fireworks to convince the Decepticons that they have been destroyed. All the Autobots have to do is remember to fall down!

Weaknesses: All of Punch's weaknesses stem from the mental split between him and his alter ego, Counterpunch. He is in constant danger of slipping too fully into his Decepticon role and turning on his Autobot comrades. Should this ever happen, the Autobots would have little option but to stop him. Whether they could do this without harming him remains to be seen. All that is held in check as Punch finds savage release as Counterpunch.

Profile published in: TRANSFORMERS # 71

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

If I were a betting man, I would sure wager on that! Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Imagine if this combiner had both Punch and Counterpunch and they were the arms.

"I'm gonna punch you!"
"Then I'll Counter-punch you!"

megatronus wrote:But if the head was pretooled, why wasn't it used on Grand Scourge?

RevTibe wrote:(Hmmm, Ask Vector Prime mentioned a case of RID Scourge (i.e., Nemesis Prime) being forcefully converted into Toxitron. Wonder if there's a connection...).

Emerje wrote:I suppose this makes Scorponok the sixth member, going to have to see if we can get Scamper to stick to Motormaster's chest in a convincing way.

RiddlerJ wrote:I still never understood why FanPub simply didn't use the originally planned mold (G2 Optimus)to give people the Toxitron toy that was never produced. If they can go as far back as the 2001 RID Megatron mold for this year's exclusive, then why can't they use another old mold?

Sabrblade wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I still never understood why FanPub simply didn't use the originally planned mold (G2 Optimus)to give people the Toxitron toy that was never produced. If they can go as far back as the 2001 RID Megatron mold for this year's exclusive, then why can't they use another old mold?

The G2 Laser Optimus mold, truck and trailer, is much more massive than most anything they've ever offered. It's roughly the equivalent of a Leader class figure, and the Club's never used a mold so big before. It's likely far too expensive for them to use. They'd probably have to use it twice just to offset the cost, like how 3H originally wanted to do for the RiD Optimus mold when they wanted to make Defensor out of it.

Plus with this CW Motormaster remold, we're at least getting a new head made by Hasbro that we otherwise probably wouldn't get, whereas the G2 Laser Optimus mold is nothing new. And we get one more new combiner out of it.

RiddlerJ wrote:Another question. How did they get the Combiner Wars molds so soon? I thought they had to wait a few years before the molds were available.