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Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017

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After the bizarre up and down news concerning the Hachette Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comic Collection, we have an update by means of PreviewsWorld, confirming that the trial subscription run was successful enough to guarantee a nation-wide (UK) release of the series - the first five issues are as seen below, with pricing, blurb and info!

TRANSFORMERS: THE DEFINITIVE G1 COLLECTION VOLUME 1: TARGET 2006 HC

Special Introductory Price of £1.99! First time in PREVIEWS UK! The classic Marvel UK & Marvel US Generation 1 Transformers storylines, represented together in sequential volumes for the first time ever! Witness the era spanning and ground-breaking ‘Target: 2006’, a mini-epic which spun out of Transformers (The Animated) Movie and changed the course of the UK comic forever. Plus, the essential US stories that followed it, along with new background material created especially for The Definitive Collection, including features on Marvel UK, The Wreckers, Transformers: The Movie and more. Includes a new contextual introduction by series editorial consultant, Simon Furman. Collecting Transformers UK #78-88 and Transformers US #21-23.

HC, FC SRP: £1.99



TRANSFORMERS: THE DEFINITIVE G1 COLLECTION VOLUME 2: STORMBRINGER HC

The IDW Generation 1 storyline in updated chronological order, bringing you the entire span of this masterful reinvention of the classic characters and scenarios. These key Spotlight issues, including the classic Spotlight: Shockwave (featuring the Dinobots), and the pulse-pounding Stormbringer mini-series, all showcase underpinning story beats that continue to influence the ongoing IDW/Transformers-verse. Plus new background material created especially for The Definitive Collection, including Creating The IDW-Verse (with new input from IDW Editor-in-Chief Chris Ryall) and more. Includes a contextual introduction by series editorial consultant, Simon Furman. Collecting Stormbringer #1-4 and Spotlight: Shockwave, Spotlight: Soundwave, Spotlight: Nightbeat, and Spotlight: Hot Rod.

HC, FC SRP: £6.99



TRANSFORMERS: THE DEFINITIVE G1 COLLECTION VOLUME 3: THE PRIMAL SCREAM HC

The classic Marvel UK & Marvel US Generation 1 Transformers storylines, represented together in sequential volumes for the first time ever. Featuring specially colourized (by fan favourite John-Paul Bove) UK stories ‘Race With the Devil’ and ‘Survivors’, the return of Megatron, the rise of Unicron and the honest-to-gosh origin of the Transformers, this volume is a true first, and a must-have for all collectors. Plus, new background material created especially for The Definitive Collection, including a feature on the colourizing process by John-Paul Bove and a contextual introduction by series editorial consultant, Simon Furman. Collecting Transformers UK #198, 213-222 and Transformers US #56-61.

HC, FC SRP: £9.99



TRANSFORMERS: THE DEFINITIVE G1 COLLECTION VOLUME 4: EDGE OF EXTINCTION HC

The classic Marvel UK & Marvel US Generation 1 Transformers storylines, represented together in sequential volumes for the first time ever. This time it’s a bumper feast of US Transformers, with the whole Unicron saga (US issues #68-75) complete in one volume for the first time. This is the storyline that thrilled a generation of readers, and set the bar for every Transformers story that followed. Plus, new background material created especially for The Definitive Collection, including features on Unicron, artist Andrew Wildman (with input from Andrew himself) and more. Includes a contextual introduction by series editorial consultant, Simon Furman. Collecting Transformers US #67-75.

HC, FC SRP: £9.99



TRANSFORMERS: THE DEFINITIVE G1 COLLECTION VOLUME 5: THE WAR WITHIN HC

(W) Simon Furman (A) Don Figueroa

The classic Marvel UK & Marvel US Generation 1 Transformers storylines, represented together in sequential volumes for the first time ever. Before Stormbringer, before the Beast Wars, before even Generation One, there was... The War Within. Four million years before the Transformers came to Earth, civil war rocks their home world of Cybertron, and Optimus Prime faces his first — and greatest — challenge. If you think you know the Transformers... think again! Plus, new background material created especially for The Definitive Collection. Includes a contextual introduction by series editorial consultant, Simon Furman. Collects Transformers: The War Within #1-6.

HC, FC SRP: £9.99


In Shops: (VOL. 1) FEBRUARY 2017 Item Code: DEC16 3227 SRP: £1.99
In Shops: (VOL. 2) FEBRUARY 2017 Item Code: DEC16 3228 SRP: £6.99
In Shops: (VOL. 3) FEBRUARY 2017 Item Code: DEC16 3229 SRP: £9.99
In Shops: (VOL. 4) FEBRUARY 2017 Item Code: DEC16 3230 SRP: £9.99
In Shops: (VOL. 5) FEBRUARY 2017 Item Code: DEC16 3231 SRP: £9.99
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Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1843246)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 25th, 2016 @ 1:35am CST
Cool. I shall grab that cheap first issue when it's out and see what it's like. I'm only interested in the Marvel ones anyways particularly any that have the later black and white strips coloured. :)
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1848878)
Posted by Va'al on December 26th, 2016 @ 11:39am CST
We have an update on the Hachette Partworks Definitive Transformers G1 Collection subscription service, thanks to a fellow robot fan via our Facebook page - the initial run was apparently successful, and the company will be releasing the full project after all! You can check out the confirmation info below, and the original announcement coverage here.

Delivery & Gift Information

As part of our research we tested the first 4 issues of this series in selected locations in the UK and we are excited to confirm that the complete collection is now launching nationally! Issue 1 will be published on 28th December 2016, and your subscription will begin again from issue 1.
We will send you the new editions of issues 1, 2, and 3 free of charge, and of course you will receive your free subscription gifts.
During the test run for this collection, you weren't charged and for security reasons we were not able to hold onto your payment details whether these were credit card details or direct debit details. This means that you will be charged via invoice, however in your first delivery you will receive information about how to switch to card or direct debit payment.
1- Please allow 28 days from the acceptance of your order for delivery.
2- You will receive your first two issues for FREE plus your FREE Transformers keyrings with your 1st delivery.
3- You will receive 2 issues every 4 weeks delivered directly to your door (in exceptional circumstances, the content of your despatches may differ).
4- You will receive another FREE issue with your 2nd delivery plus your FREE Transformers wallet.
5- You will receive your FREE tin plate cover with your 3rd delivery.
6- You will receive your FREE Transformers mug with your 4th delivery.
7- You will receive your FREE Transformers bookends with your 5th delivery.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1848885)
Posted by EagleBot13 on December 26th, 2016 @ 2:43pm CST
Any news on an international release? I live in the US and would love to subscribe.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1848886)
Posted by Va'al on December 26th, 2016 @ 2:47pm CST
EagleBot13 wrote:Any news on an international release? I live in the US and would love to subscribe.


Not yet I'm afraid. :/
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1848895)
Posted by dragons on December 26th, 2016 @ 4:32pm CST
As long they pull this stuff again with international release consider me preorder when it happens
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1849116)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 27th, 2016 @ 10:39pm CST
That G1 battle scene painting is the BOSS! Wish I can score one without the JP or any English characters in front it.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1849382)
Posted by ScottyP on December 29th, 2016 @ 8:12am CST
EagleBot13 wrote:Any news on an international release? I live in the US and would love to subscribe.
Do yourself a favor and grab this if you want to check out the Marvel UK material and haven't before: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Cla ... 600109438/?tag=seibertron07-20&

I know that doesn't really solve what you're asking for here, just throwing that out there in the possible event that you were interested for the material that was "UK only" until the 00's.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1849732)
Posted by starfish on December 30th, 2016 @ 5:33pm CST
Can confirm at least one change between the four trial issues and the 'proper' wide-release issues: as with Hachette's previous Dredd partwork, they've had a re-think about the spine art.

To confirm: the spine art has changed, so if you were thinking of mixing and matching trial issues and the full run, the spines won't match.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1850244)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 3rd, 2017 @ 9:21am CST
Found a copy today and am really happy with it. Mainly buying for the Marvel stuff but a few of the others is fine too.

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And love the poster the 'magazine' unfolds into
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So yeah I went and subscribed for the free merchandise getting issue 3 free with issue 2 and getting them delivered to my door so I don't have to search around for them or pay £6.40 busfare if the only newsagents in this town that does stock it runs out. I hope it lasts at least until all the Marvel stuff is sitting all tidy and neat on my shelf. :)
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1850425)
Posted by Va'al on January 4th, 2017 @ 9:49am CST
London-based Orbital Comics will be holding another signing session with Transformers comics creators, this time to celebrate the full launch of the Hachette Partworks Definitive G1 collection, as reported previously! The guests for the event on Saturday 14th January are Simon Furman, Stephen Baskerville, Jeff Anderson, Lee Sullivan and John-Paul Bove - check out more info below!

To celebrate the launch of Transformers The Definitive G1 Collection from Hachette Partworks, Orbital Comics is pleased to welcome creators from the original Marvel UK Transformers title to the store.

Joining us on Saturday 14th January 2017, from 2-4pm, will be creators Simon Furman, Jeff Anderson, Stephen Baskerville, Lee Sullivan and John-Paul Bove.

We will have copies of the first 3 releases available, which feature classic stories like Target 2006 and The Primal Scream. Hachette Partworks will also be on hand to take subscriptions to the series.

This is the perfect way to start a Transformers comic collection, or the chance to relive favourite childhood stories with the people that created them, don’t miss out!


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Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1850473)
Posted by BattleConvoy on January 4th, 2017 @ 1:54pm CST
Got issue 1 idk if I can get all of them due to pocket money being limited
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1850475)
Posted by BattleConvoy on January 4th, 2017 @ 1:59pm CST
Delivery & Gift Information

As part of our research we tested the first 4 issues of this series in selected locations in the UK and we are excited to confirm that the complete collection is now launching nationally! Issue 1 will be published on 28th December 2016, and your subscription will begin again from issue 1.
We will send you the new editions of issues 1, 2, and 3 free of charge, and of course you will receive your free subscription gifts.
During the test run for this collection, you weren't charged and for security reasons we were not able to hold onto your payment details whether these were credit card details or direct debit details. This means that you will be charged via invoice, however in your first delivery you will receive information about how to switch to card or direct debit payment.
1- Please allow 28 days from the acceptance of your order for delivery.
2- You will receive your first two issues for FREE plus your FREE Transformers keyrings with your 1st delivery.
3- You will receive 2 issues every 4 weeks delivered directly to your door (in exceptional circumstances, the content of your despatches may differ).
4- You will receive another FREE issue with your 2nd delivery plus your FREE Transformers wallet.
5- You will receive your FREE tin plate cover with your 3rd delivery.
6- You will receive your FREE Transformers mug with your 4th delivery.
7- You will receive your FREE Transformers bookends with your 5th delivery.
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AGain, llike I said, I cannot aford this, unless I start a job or selling some of my stuff :-x
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1850760)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 5th, 2017 @ 11:20pm CST
Orbital Comics has let us know that there is an upcoming signing session for the Transformers: the Definitive G1 Collection, and this session includes several major figures! The signing is scheduled for January 14 of this year in Orbital Comics of London, UK, and will feature creators and contributors Simon Furman, Jeff Anderson, Stephen Baskerville, Lee Sullivan, Geoff Senior and John-Paul Bove. You can follow the link above to Orbital Comics Website, and we have mirrored the press release below. So get ready to get a whole bunch of G1 comics signed!

o celebrate the launch of Transformers The Definitive G1 Collection from Hachette Partworks, Orbital Comics is pleased to welcome creators from the original Marvel UK Transformers title to the store.

Joining us on Saturday 14th January 2017, from 2-4pm, will be creators Simon Furman, Jeff Anderson, Stephen Baskerville, Lee Sullivan, Geoff Senior and John-Paul Bove.

We will have copies of the first 3 releases available, which feature classic stories like Target 2006 and The Primal Scream. Hachette Partworks will also be on hand to take subscriptions to the series.

This is the perfect way to start a Transformers comic collection, or the chance to relive favourite childhood stories with the people that created them, don’t miss out!

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Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1852605)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 16th, 2017 @ 7:43am CST
Got the first three volumes now and my subscriber keyrings. Already this collection is getting kinda heavy. I forgot lots of paper weighs muchly lots. :P
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Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1852606)
Posted by starfish on January 16th, 2017 @ 7:49am CST
I see they're offering to re-print issue 1 (Target 2006) due to a misprint on the spine. The art doesn't line up properly...Image
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1852607)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 16th, 2017 @ 7:50am CST
starfish wrote:I see they're offering to re-print issue 1 (Target 2006) due to a misprint on the spine. The art doesn't line up properly...Image



Yep. Think the shop release is coming with issue 7 and the subscribers one sooner? Something like that. Not a huge deal and it's good of them to fix it for free though it's not even bugging my OCD... yet... :P
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1852883)
Posted by BattleConvoy on January 17th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CST
Got 1 and 2, will get the ealry marvel strips and dreamwave when they come out.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1865533)
Posted by Va'al on March 10th, 2017 @ 11:40am CST
You may not have been following the Transformers: Definitive Collection stories that the UK social media world has been posting, but it's worth pointing out some of the perks available to subsribers nonetheless - especially with the reveal of a number of their six Premium prints, by veteran Transformers artists such as Andrew Griffith, Alex Milne, E.J. Su, Joana Lafuente, Casey Coller and Sara Pitre Durocher. Check out the general banner below (with Milne, Su and one hard to read the signature), and the latest reveal (Pitre Durocher's) too!

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Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1865534)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 10th, 2017 @ 11:44am CST
Va'al wrote:You may not have been following the Transformers: Definitive Collection stories that the UK social media world has been posting, but it's worth pointing out some of the perks available to subsribers nonetheless - especially with the reveal of a number of their six Premium prints, by veteran Transformers artists such as Andrew Griffith, Alex Milne, E.J. Su, Joana Lafuente, Casey Coller and Sara Pitre Durocher. Check out the general banner below (with Milne, Su and one hard to read the signature), and the latest reveal (Pitre Durocher's) too!

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Oh well I was paying extra for those but hadn't see what they'd be. I'm likely going to have to cancel my sub anyways. I'm too poor. :/
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1906275)
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 24th, 2017 @ 5:17pm CDT
Coming by way of the Ozformers Facebook page we have learned that the G1 Definitive Comics collection is now out in Australia via Newsagents. There is a bit of a note written by the Ozformers page people to be aware of.

The first issue is $8, while each later issue (every 2 weeks) is $20.
It's a great complete set if you haven't been collecting the comics, but unfortunately, if you only want certain issues, or just the first section containing the original 1980s comics, these are not being released in order - they are being released in a pre-set mixed up order, and you will have to ask your local newsagent if they are able to order in specific volumes (if you only want certain ones). If they can do it, just be careful when asking for specific volumes, as they might be numbered according to their order of release, rather than the numbers on the covers (note that "issue 1" is Volume 6).
By the way... this Definitive Collection is supposed to include for the first time ever, coloured copies of the black and white UK comic stories from the original series - that's almost 30 years for this to finally happen.


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Also please note, if you wish to subscribe to the G1 Definitive Comics Collection you can do so here the caveat is that it is region specific. So if you are in Australia, you pay in Australian pricing, if you are in Italy you would pay UK pricing.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1906294)
Posted by Prime Target on August 24th, 2017 @ 6:34pm CDT
Niiice Might have to look out for this one :D I've never read most of the UK Stories but I really want too! I wanna read the one with the Zombies and Flame :D
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1906296)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 24th, 2017 @ 7:06pm CDT
One day, some sassy company will realise that selling both the UK and US Marvel G1 comics, in the correct order, TOGETHER, without Geo-blocking the release (i.e., at Amazon) is actually a good idea.

Until then, I'll keep my money, thanks.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1906457)
Posted by Prime Nova on August 25th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
So this is just shipping unsold UK stock with stickers on the price
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1978501)
Posted by ScottyP on August 14th, 2018 @ 8:54am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:. After reading both parts, I do hope, at their peak, MTMTE/LL & TAAO/OP are better than this.
Titans Return is generally considered "just ok". Very generally speaking, August - November 2016 was a low point in the IDW run to the extent that the sales never really recovered, some one-off peaks aside.

Plot-wise, Titans Return does set up my personal favorite part of TAAO, in which the undead Titans reach Cybertron. It's the book's second arc/trade and is issues 5-8. Given your preference for visual storytelling, you may be pleased to know it's much lighter in word count than most any recent IDW TF books that I can think of, at least since AHM.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1978534)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 14th, 2018 @ 2:21pm CDT
I never got to read AHM. Was it light on dialogue? That usually makes for a boring story.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1978536)
Posted by ScottyP on August 14th, 2018 @ 2:48pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I never got to read AHM. Was it light on dialogue? That usually makes for a boring story.
Lighter than what Furman had been doing by a good bit! I think less dialogue is just fine if the visual storytelling is up to snuff, but that's a learned skill. It can be very tempting to see a splash page with no/few words and skip right along, but learning to stop and really take it in and actively think about it changed my comics reading world.

That said, if the art is bad, over-simple, or just not doing anything for the story, then yes a lack of dialogue becomes a detriment. I don't think that applies to AHM or TAAO (in places), thankfully.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (1978886)
Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2018 @ 5:12pm CDT
If you're Australian and subscribed to the Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection and were wondering where your latest shipment is, it's because Bissett Magazines, the Australian distributor for Hachette Partworks (the UK publisher of the books) has filed for bankruptcy.

The crew over at OzFormers shared the details and what you should do going forward via a Facebook post.

OzFormers Facebook wrote:Transformers Definitive Comic Collection update.
For those who are subscribed to the Transformers Definitive Comic Collection, and were wondering why they didn't get two volumes sent to them last week, the Australian distributor (Bissett Magazines) has collapsed, and the UK publisher (Hachette Partworks) is still trying to set up a new distributor, as noted on the Subscription website...
http://www.transformerscollection.com/
Hopefully they have the mailing list of subscribers, but just in case, please email Hachette in the UK (customer_service_aus@hachette-service.com) to make sure that they know that you were getting the series, and which volumes you last received (the last two sent out should have been Volume 14 & 43 in the second week of July).
Updates from Hachette will be posted here and on Ozformers website.
The more people here who are known by them, the quicker they might be to find a solution, and the more likely one of us will be updated with some news about if or when the shipments will resume for us in Australia.


Other collectors have received responses from Hachette that they are working to get a new distributor set up so that collectors can resume receiving the books.

Affected by this? Didn't know about the Transformers Definitive Comic Collection? Sound off on our forums!
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2015072)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 18th, 2019 @ 2:08pm CDT
Resurrecting a Dead Thread, for the second time

So lets catch up briefly on what I've been reading.

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Liars A to D and Shadowplay, were two of the newest collections of the Part Work and while some stories were interesting concepts, the overall impression I have of the first 13 (+ annual) issues of the much lauded MTMTE is Underwhelming.

As noted, I tapped out of IDWverse with DoOP. Too far a departure from the Origin to LSoTW era that I found so captivating. To that end I have largely gone into reading these books, particularly as they are the initial arcs, with an unbiased and open mind.
My main point of contention with this series opening is that it could be anything. There is nothing in this series so far that clearly, proudly says 'Transformers'. I've read a lot of comics, of various genres. Without a distinct hook/voice of it's own, a series just becomes lost like a raindrop in the ocean.

Transformers typically has that, by default. The motivations, the world building, the contextualisation of the titular Giant Alien Robots. Most of this series however, is (dense) talking heads. It's like Star Trek, mixed with the humour of Red Dwarf, in Robot Cosplay. I imagine the appeal is akin to the Disney approach to Marvel Movies. Generalise and dilute the source material to make it as accessible to the general audience as possible.

Did I enjoy it? Not particularly. The initial arc "Liars A to D" was naff. The story involving Pharma was interesting , although there is a weird disconnect between the Ratchet of Infiltration and his Grandfather in this book. Shadowplay too was engaging, until the Prime fanwank took centre stage.

The biggest minuses are:
(1)Swerve and Tailgate - Two "chibi" characters that are visually completely incongruous with the rest of the book. As someone with an artistic background, their jarring presence irritated me, to the extent I largely skimmed over their dialogue and scenes.
(2) Whirl - I understand why he is visually different from the rest of the cast, being familiar with the history of his toy, and the way they tried to explain that away in Shadowplay was a nice touch. However, to me he is one of the worst characters in IDWverse, an Extreme 90's archetype that falls flat. So much so I think the book would have been better without him.

Overall both books get a 5/10. As I said, decidedly average and middle of the road by IDWverse stands previously set.


Moving on

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I've previously made it clear that I don't really value Marvel US over Marvel UK, in G1 Transformers. The art and stories of the latter were typically superior in every aspect and I didn't really rate Bob Budiansky as a result of that. Enter: The Underbase Saga

To think some fans complained that half a dozen characters died in The Movie. :shock:

If the level of culling in the Underbase Saga had been present in The Movie, I think Transformers would have ended there. Yet in terms of characterisation and story, this is Budiansky's best work. Ironically his swansong from the series too. The level of death in this book, as someone who champions plot progression over maintaining the status quo, is very impressive. Not to mention the disregard in which it takes place. There simply isn't the opportunity for heroic final moments, Starscream slaughters dozens per panel, unceremoniously. The art of Marvel US however, remains poor. I don't know if this picks up by the end of the series, but everything I've read via the part work to date, I am left somewhat pessimistic about the odds.

This one is an 8/10. A 9.5/10 if the art had been beyond serviceable.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2015535)
Posted by ScottyP on March 21st, 2019 @ 2:52pm CDT
If you didn't like Swerve, Tailgate and Whirl already, you've got a good bit of not liking them in the future I'm afraid. Try imagining Whirl as literally Bender from Futurama and see if that helps? It might not, just a thought.

The art on Marvel US improves from about 69-80 when the Wildman and Baskerville duo takes over almost exclusively. Between where you are and that point, there are some nice Geoff Senior penciled issues in the 60s, but it's mostly still Delbo. Does a really nice job on some of the Matrix Quest stuff though, imo.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2015537)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 21st, 2019 @ 3:06pm CDT
I don't understand how this level of art (in Marvel US) made it to print? I've read comics from the 60's that were better (read: more consistently) drawn. Scale for one thing, is all over the place. Ultra Magnus for example. I'm not even sure how tall he is supposed to be, compared to everyone else in any given book? As it more or less changes from panel to panel.

As for MTMTE, other than those mentioned, I'm also finding the subtext of Rewind and Chromedome strange and somewhat forced. I say subtext, there is no real subtlety to what is being portrayed. I am curious what Blaster's connection to Rewind is in IDWverse, given he doesn't transform into a cassette. Also where is Eject? I am skeptical I will find resolution to these questions though. As Blaster seemed to have become relegated to a "Wallflower" after his Spotlight. Not quite sure why :-?
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2015564)
Posted by starfish on March 21st, 2019 @ 6:38pm CDT
Scale was always a bit of an issue in G1, be it in the cartoons or in the comics. You have to remember - these comics were churned out at high speed, to tight budgets and even tighter deadlines. Furthermore, Transformers wasn’t as illustrious as other Marvel titles, so you can forgive the production staff if they didn’t give it their all. Some of the artists were working on multiple titles simultaneously. The mere fact that the old stuff is as good as it was... well it’s a minor miracle.

As to your other points... well the G1 cast contains literally hundreds of characters. You’re always going to get some (ie Blaster and Eject) who fall by the wayside while others get a lot of focus. The G1 comic was the same - poor old Flamefeather barely got a look in back in the 80s!!!

It’s a difficult balancing act. Some fans bemoan the fact that IDW put so much focus on some of the ‘lesser’ characters such as Tailgate and Rewind, but you also get people complaining when the ‘core’ cast (Prime, Bee, Megs etc.) are overused. You’re never going to please everybody. Besides which, the Blaster spotlight was a relatively early issue. You can’t really blame Roberts for wanting to pursue his own storylines rather than tie up stuff from previous eras.

Besides which, until now, Rewind has almost exclusively been portrayed as an adjunct or underling of Blaster, rather than a character in his own right. Personally I think it was great that he was able to shine and be something more than simply a non-entity.

I agree that the Chromedome/Rewind relationship is about as subtle as a brick, but don’t really see it as ‘forced’; to my mind it evolves naturally as the characters develop. Considering the plot-heavy nature of MTMTE, it’s a wonder that the characters are as well-drawn as they are. Each has a very distinct voice, which can’t always be said for Transformers fiction.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2015611)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 22nd, 2019 @ 11:04am CDT
I say the relationship is forced as it is the most blatantly human element in the entirety of the series I've read so far. The least Transformer-like interaction, if you get my meaning.

Blaster is a strange one. He was introduced in the film, only to disappear past the midway point. Only really Takara even took notice of him after that, with his fatal rivalry versus Soundwave.

The G1 comics used him quite a bit and did a lot with him, in terms of characterisation. Then he largely disappears completely. I'm struggling to think of a cartoon he was anything more than a visual cameo in the past few decades.

You would assume, given the Spotlight, Blaster was going to be up on the frontlines of IDWverse again. But not even Furman used him. It speaks volumes when one of his cassettes gets more recognition than he does.

The only consistent complaint I had against IDWverse since Furman left, was how little of the toybox they made use of. From the -Ations to the Spotlights, Furman brought in Gestalts, Pretenders, Headmasters, Micromasters. Other than Star Saber, Overlord and a brief Sky Shadow cameo, G1 was the order of the day after that. so much potential, squandered. The less said about the insulting treatment of the BW characters in IDWverse, the better.

As for the art of G1, I only compare it to it's sister title (Marvel UK). That book must have been on a similar release schedule, yet the art is crisp and consistent. The contrast is plain as day to see, given the part work often pairs them together.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2015708)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 23rd, 2019 @ 1:55pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The only consistent complaint I had against IDWverse since Furman left, was how little of the toybox they made use of. From the -Ations to the Spotlights, Furman brought in Gestalts, Pretenders, Headmasters, Micromasters. Other than Star Saber, Overlord and a brief Sky Shadow cameo, G1 was the order of the day after that. so much potential, squandered. The less said about the insulting treatment of the BW characters in IDWverse, the better.


To further on my point here, a visual aid:

This Isn't all there is to G1:
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This is:
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Furman's IDW run was the only one in IDWverse that took this seriously.
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2021956)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 19th, 2019 @ 6:17am CDT
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So let's talk TIME WARS.

I've mentioned on a couple of occasions prior to the part work, there were only two G1 stories that I really liked from Marvel. One was 'Peace' (by Richard Starkings/Alan & Robin Smith) which in my view is the only possible ending to the Transformers story that really works, thematically. It is quite funny, reading the wiki, that IDW's James Roberts commented during the original stories release on how bleak the ending is.

The other, 'Rhythms of Darkness!' (by Simon Furman & José Delbo). The story I took as the epilogue to the Mad Galvatron story, presented in Sunbow at the time.

Speaking of MAD Galvatron, back to Time Wars. This is one of the few Time Travel stories I've read in comics done right. Travel back in time? It damages the timestream. Remain in the past and form an alliance with your past self? Time itself begins to collapse!

As is a running theme with G1 comics, the art is iffy in places and I've never really been a fan of Transformers being depicted with teeth.. and spit :???: but it works for the most part within this story, in terms of consistency. As for as power levels are concerned here however, consistency was thrown out the window. Galvatron is.. well, up until a certain point, Galvatron is as much an all powerful engine of destruction as Furman loves to depict him. Megatron, in contrast, gets a bit of a buff in this story. As the G1 stories I've read up until now, don't really show him as being in the same league was Galvatron.

Scourge draws the short straw in that regard (as he seems to in all fiction) when he is essentially taken out in one hit. The final "fight" (pictured above) is fantastic. Because, in a great twist, most of it isn't real. Galvtron, having suffered quite a devastating shot to the head. Alongside his mind deteriorating being alongside Megatron and depicting events through his eyes/memories, goes completely insane by the time Optimus Prime enters the fray. To the extent most of the battle that follows only occurs in Galvatron's shattered psyche.

You can really tell from this story, how much Furman loves Galvatron as a character. That said, despite that love, he does bring his fate to its natural conclusion...

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There are a couple of Marvel US stories after this. One with Mecannibals (which was, weird) and a story debuting the Micromasters, who only manage to come across as obnoxious. Ultimately though, 9/10
Re: Transformers: The Definitive G1 Comics Collection Available at UK Retail in February 2017 (2068019)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 15th, 2020 @ 2:55am CDT
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Wow! So this is what it was supposed to look like?

I've shied away from keeping up with the Part Work on this thread for sometime. Chiefly because it is mostly wrapping up now and the latter IDWverse is covered in most issues now. Which I don't enjoy at all.

There are the occasional surprise GI Joe/Transformers crossover books. Which have some really interesting and unique designs, That of course, will never be made. No HISS Tank Ironhide for you! Here, have a dated generic truck instead.

That said, as I'm working through a small backlog of these at the moment, I decided to look at The Movie one. I know the film, inside out. So I didn't really feel to need to read it. There are two adaptations. The '86 original 3 part mini-series. Which is very.. abridged. Meanwhile a later IDW version that almost feels too slavish an adaptation. Ironically, Blurr is cut from both.

The original caught my attention more, in spite of the clunky exposition. Based on the unfinished Movie script. As it has some concepts and ideas that were new to me. The Matrix is a green "egg". Ultra Magnus has his unedited demise (pictured above) which I would have loved to see in the Movie. However, most interesting of all, Hot Rod was not involved in the conclusion to the Megatron/Prime fight. Megatron simply reached the gun first. Which I think, would have gone over much better in the finished film.

Next to read, I have the "G2" GI Joe/Transformers crossover and what looks like two back to back IDWverse stories - Revolutionaries. I'm not looking forward to it. As it is roughly in the same era as the awful "Starscream The Movie" issue I just finished.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 8th, 2020 @ 9:37am CST
We're approaching the end now.

Confirmation that the part work is indeed coming to an end with Issue #100. Issue #97 and #98 arrived yesterday. 97 contained GI Joe vs Transformers 3.

This mini continuity was interesting. Far more so than what IDW did with the premise. In this we have the finale to the Serpent-O.R. storyline and Unicron gets thrown into the mix too.


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I do wish this Serpent-OR/Serpentor Prime design did exist as a figure. Not just a redeco of a bad Scourge design. Then again, this series had a lot of really cool designs.


The way this story merges the two continuity is where it really shines. Taking something as... out there, as Cobra-La and tying them into a shared history with Unicron makes good use of both. Making Cobra-La a lot more interesting than in the GI Joe Movie. It was a decent finale to the storyline too. Always a concern that crossover endings are a casualty of a rushed deadline. At least, it didn't feel that way.

This story ends the "classic run". Issue #98 is the opening storyline to IDW 2.0. Not really looking forward to that.

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