Update on i-Gear PP-05

Update on i-Gear PP-05

Thursday, May 26th, 2011 2:48am CDT

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3rd Party and KO toy producer i-Gear have updated their Facebook profile with a new teaser image of their upcoming PP-05. The image is collage of CGI renders showing a few key parts of the project we've all known to be Ironhide, these also confirm that the figure will also be repainted/remolded into Ratchet.
Click the image to see the original posting on Facebook.
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Credit(s): metaphorge, i-Gear


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Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228648)
Posted by Dead Metal on May 26th, 2011 @ 2:50am CDT
So far it looks to be an original mold, I am impressed i-Gear, you can still design something yourself.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228650)
Posted by OlivusPrime on May 26th, 2011 @ 2:55am CDT
Looking good, but it'll probably end up too expensive for me. I may get Ratchet though, purely because the Universe figure usually costs an entire planet.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228671)
Posted by Sodan-1 on May 26th, 2011 @ 4:29am CDT
So IDW heads, G1 accessories and movie style weapons? Quite the chimera. From what we can see of the figure; it looks.... interesting. And not in a good way. Oh well. Will wait and see I guess.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228677)
Posted by Warbreaker on May 26th, 2011 @ 5:13am CDT
I see Inferno's shoulder hinge on Ironhide. Are Ironhide and Ratchet extensive retools of the Universe Inferno mold?

Other than that, these are the first Igear stuff I'm really interested in, the retooled seeker/conehead molds aside.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228683)
Posted by Dai_Ceefax on May 26th, 2011 @ 5:52am CDT
Well this looks rather nice, I've wanted a decent Ironhide toy for far too long. Does anybody here have their convoy KOs? What's the consensus on the quality of iGear's MP figures?

These + Takara's MP-10 are looking to make my 2011 somewhat pricey....
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228698)
Posted by Cardformer on May 26th, 2011 @ 6:35am CDT
I just love what some of these third-party people do.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228699)
Posted by Dead Metal on May 26th, 2011 @ 6:35am CDT
Warbreaker wrote:I see Inferno's shoulder hinge on Ironhide. Are Ironhide and Ratchet extensive retools of the Universe Inferno mold?


Good eye, it does look a lot like the Universe Inferno shoulders, and upon closer inspection the upper arms look almost exactly the same, ether they use a similar transformation or it's a retooling of Universe Inferno.
So i-Gear might not have returned to creating their own stuff.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228701)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on May 26th, 2011 @ 6:44am CDT
If it's Inferno it's heavily modified. But it would make sense. I could see iGear doing that.

This is not for me. Henkei Ironhide isn't perfect, but he's good enough. There's other TFs I want more than to ry and buy the "perfect" Ironhide.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228708)
Posted by --B-- on May 26th, 2011 @ 7:14am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:
Warbreaker wrote:I see Inferno's shoulder hinge on Ironhide. Are Ironhide and Ratchet extensive retools of the Universe Inferno mold?


Good eye, it does look a lot like the Universe Inferno shoulders, and upon closer inspection the upper arms look almost exactly the same, ether they use a similar transformation or it's a retooling of Universe Inferno.
So i-Gear might not have returned to creating their own stuff.



The part of the chest that is shown kinda looks like Robot Masters Prime's chest.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If it's Inferno it's heavily modified. But it would make sense. I could see iGear doing that.

This is not for me. Henkei Ironhide isn't perfect, but he's good enough. There's other TFs I want more than to ry and buy the "perfect" Ironhide.


I think for me it's about the "perfect" Ratchet. He's such an important character that hasn't gotten a regular release figure that is really good.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228719)
Posted by Dead Metal on May 26th, 2011 @ 7:57am CDT
--B-- wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Warbreaker wrote:I see Inferno's shoulder hinge on Ironhide. Are Ironhide and Ratchet extensive retools of the Universe Inferno mold?


Good eye, it does look a lot like the Universe Inferno shoulders, and upon closer inspection the upper arms look almost exactly the same, ether they use a similar transformation or it's a retooling of Universe Inferno.
So i-Gear might not have returned to creating their own stuff.



The part of the chest that is shown kinda looks like Robot Masters Prime's chest.


Yea it does. Now this might be a super extensive retooling of Universe Inferno, but then again it might be an all new figure that took inspiration from Inferno's engineering.

Ether way, I'll wait till they show us more before I cast an opinion.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228727)
Posted by ae_productions on May 26th, 2011 @ 8:17am CDT
*SIGH*

Takara, Hasbro have no interest in anything BUT movie toys. Their fumble of distribution over their RTS/GENERATIONS line is proof. There were more DOTM sightings BEFORE the street date of those toys than many of the RTS figures that were out for months prior. Sure, they blame the retailers. But Hasbro is in a unique position with their own website and own supply. Bottom line, if they wanted, ALL these figures would have been consistently available on their website for distribution. For more than 5 minutes anyway. I can go on and on, but the point is made.

Takara has no interest in doing anything but milking molds. 10 Masterpiece figures and how many of them are Convoy? How many are Starscream? That leaves us with only 3 other molds since 2004.

iGear is stepping up to the plate and delivering product to a market neither Hasbro nor Takara intend to satisfy.

There seems to be a lot of confusion here. PP-01 faith leader is a figure designed to be scaled down to fit in the Masterpiece line. He's perfectly to scale with MP Grimlock and Starscream*. He is to scale with Classics. Many of course, will cry that this is not true. This is partly due to the consistent lack of scale in Transformers since it was initially created. Of course, the Alternity and Binaltech lines are the exception to that. But no other Transformer line has EVER been to scale. Some will still say PP-01 is NOT to scale with classic figures. And they are wrong. It's elementary physics. A semi truck will not turn into a robot the same size as a robot which turns into a sports car. The classic line and PP-01 are roughly 1:32 scale. It's of course not true scale. But it's as close as Transformers fans get.

(*Starscream is about 1/60 scale, so he would have to be nearly TWICE the size he is now to be to scale with PP-01. Note the key word there was ABOUT. The PP-01 Robot and MP Starscream Robot is to "scale" with each other in respects to the G1 cartoon. But again, in that cartoon, a 30 foot robot can turn into a boom box that a 6 foot human can hold in their hand. Scale is always an issue with Transformers.)

From what I have been told about Ironhide/Ratchet is they will be to scale with the PP-01 Prime, and NOT the MP-01. Which means Ironhide/Ratchet will fit into the classics line perfectly. 1:32 scale-ish. Since they are vans, which are larger than sports cars, it will be larger than a deluxe. Probably Voyager class. Of course, I have not seen this figure yet, but it gives an approximation.

There's a lot of iGear bandwagon hate here. People on the internet always need to complain about something. They lack moral integrity, because they are not passionate about what they are fighting for/complaining about. The same people who cry IP infringement also own a City Commander. These badnwagoners are all in the closet. Once in a while, one will poke their head out. They will let their passive-aggressive cry of hate slip into how tempting Ramjet is. Or Dirge, or Thrust. Oh, if iGear would only release the mini-Megatron...but they HATE iGear, all that iGear stands for, they hope iGear burns in the mouth of hell. I assure you a very large percentage own 3rd party products, and will break down and buy iGear's stuff.

Like it or not, if you collect non-movie TF's, 3rd party is the ONLY game in town.

As for QC issues, it happens with ANYTHING that is mass produced.

Look at the Takara seeker Jets. I know A LOT of fans who have wings with stress joints, or that broke. Some even opened their box to find a broken MP Megatron. Or a Megatron that later would get "cosmic rust." Even MP Convoy and Rodimus Prime ALL HAD EXTREME QC ISSUES. Any mass produced product will have QC issues. Especially something as overly engineered as MP toys, ESPECIALLY products that use translucent plastic, which does NOT have the durability of other plastics. The difference is, if you live outside of Japan, and have an issue with your MP Takara toy, well...too bad for you.

IGear stands behind their product. Even to international customers. All you have to do is contact them and they WILL send you replacement parts. In some cases, it's too bad they won't send you a whole replacement toy. Still, sending out new parts is BETTER service than you will EVER get from Takara. Even Hasbro took 17 emails and nearly 6 months to fix a defective Star Wars toy I bought from them.

And...let's face it. The Classics/Henkei Ratchet/Ironhide is a bit of a let down. Parts of the toy are cool. The robot modes are okay. But overall, it's a major disappointment.

Ironhide and Ratchet are two Classic Characters (not including the movie versions) that do NOT get much treatment. It's great to FINALLY get these two characters in a form that will be worthy of the MP title, or in iGear's realm, the PP title.

This figure could be re-tooled with new parts and heads to be Trailbreaker. Or Hoist. Maybe Skids, or Swerve, or Brawn. Figures who have NOT gotten a proper Classic treatment.

Yes, we may see more Classics from Hasbro. Roughly 3 years from now. That seems to be the time frame Hasbro allows for their movie toys before indulging fans. Even then, if Hasbro fumbles the ball like they did with the RTS/Generations line, good luck finding any of them.

I think 3rd party is the prayer fans have been waiting for. Even if they are in the closet about it.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228737)
Posted by ae_productions on May 26th, 2011 @ 8:26am CDT
[/quote]

Ether way, I'll wait till they show us more before I cast an opinion.[/quote]

That is highly logical. Spread your wisdom. From reading these posts, many are allowing their blind assumptions of a product they know nothing about to paint a picture of abstract...well, bullshit.

It would be dubious to have any other preconceived notions prior to obtaining a single morsel of fact. And...I suddenly feel like Shockwave.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228747)
Posted by Dead Metal on May 26th, 2011 @ 8:41am CDT
ae_productions wrote:Snip

The thing people, like me, complain about with i-Gear is that they call themselves a 3rd party company, while most of their products are bootlegs of official product/and or kitbashes.
We do not complain and hate them for producing custom toys based on TF characters, we bash them for steeling other people's designs.
The Faith leader is a scaled down MP Prime KO, with a scaled down KO of someone's garage kit replacement hands and head.
Their Seekers are retooled KOs of the MP Starscream mold, with the retooled parts being reproductions of someone else's kitbashes. And their upcoming PP trailer, is a KO of the original MP trailer, with up-scaled versions of the THS Prime Roller and ion-blaster.
This is even more annoying since they started out making interesting self designed products.

And the reason that RTS has such a bad distribution in the US is simple, the US dollar is currently almost worthless, in Europe prices are higher while the money is worth more which means Hasbro makes more money by sending product over to Europe. Plus these are the final waves of those particular lines before the DOTM line hits shelves, which makes more money so retailers will want to carry that instead of the lines that have no big blockbuster to support them.
And we'll see new G1 inspired stuff by next year the latest, Hasbro loves putting Classics figures into the second half of the Movie line.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228752)
Posted by Rated X on May 26th, 2011 @ 8:44am CDT
Are these for the classics versions ???
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228753)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on May 26th, 2011 @ 8:44am CDT
--B-- wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:If it's Inferno it's heavily modified. But it would make sense. I could see iGear doing that.

This is not for me. Henkei Ironhide isn't perfect, but he's good enough. There's other TFs I want more than to ry and buy the "perfect" Ironhide.


I think for me it's about the "perfect" Ratchet. He's such an important character that hasn't gotten a regular release figure that is really good.

Everything I said about Ironhide applies to Ratchet as well. I'm pretty happy with what i have when it comes to ironhide/Ratchet ... that hole has been filled. Gimme a new character, iGear.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228793)
Posted by Requiem Prime on May 26th, 2011 @ 10:23am CDT
This is becoming exciting. Yeah, it looks like they'll use elements of other designs, but Ironhide's chest shows enough to say it'll probably be a unique build as a whole. I'm loving the alternate cartoon style heads, and I hope this means Ratchet is getting a unique loadout of extras. Speaking of which, it seems Ironhide's getting quite a... recognizable mix of parts. It's like iGear is developing their own "aligned continuity" in plastic. He'll be definitive on so many levels.

My only real issue with iGear is their pricing. They push around $100 every time whether its a really really fancy KO or a fairly decent deluxe class. It's only made worse since Hasbro is playing coy with if we're ever getting either MP-09 or 10 for a much more reasonable price.

At this point, depending on what I see, I may forgo MP-10 for Ratchet and Ironhide. Ball's in your court iGear; impress me.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228829)
Posted by gothsaurus on May 26th, 2011 @ 10:52am CDT
As much as I hate that iGear reuses Hasbro/Takara's work... I KNOW I'm never going to see an official Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet, or Sunstorm masterpiece release... ever ... especially stateside.

I do appreciate that they're taking a STAB at doing some original molds and sculpts. I hope this continues... I think it will give iGear some more reputability with the fans/less bashing. I'd also note, the quality and detail has been fantastic on their toys. No complaints there.

Like it or not, we are facing a third "drought" while the movie toys saturate the market for 1-3 years. And for the lot of us who hate the Bayverse toys... and flat, underdeveloped (due to human screentime), not to mention racial stereotype characters)... we turn our attention to 3rd party to fill the gap.

Mind you, I'm not knocking those that LIKE the Bayverse. It's just a different universe and characters. I know it appeals to kids, and I feel like he at least got Prime right... even if he can't get anyone's colors right. LOL.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1228865)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on May 26th, 2011 @ 11:46am CDT
I'm interested to see more.. but I'm more interested in the Impactor head.
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1229223)
Posted by Ddave on May 26th, 2011 @ 10:45pm CDT
Just saw this post by iGear on their FB page.

It is about 19CM, 7.5in

referring to the (not)Ironhide & (not)Rachet figures.

@ work atm, so does anyone want to shop up a possible size comparrion with current MP figures?
Re: Update on i-Gear PP-05 (1229381)
Posted by Requiem Prime on May 27th, 2011 @ 8:04am CDT
Ddave wrote:Just saw this post by iGear on their FB page.

It is about 19CM, 7.5in

referring to the (not)Ironhide & (not)Rachet figures.

@ work atm, so does anyone want to shop up a possible size comparrion with current MP figures?


That's a decent voyager size. Perfect classic-verse scale.

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