Video Review of Transformers: Power of the Primes Tailgate
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Check it out, and let us know what you think of this second use of the mold. Do you prefer this version over the first? Would you prefer a more IDW styled toy? Is this an upgrade compared to the previous Generations toy in the Thrilling 30 line? Join in the discussion down in the Energon Pub!
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Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 14th, 2018 @ 1:21pm CST
Same here. I guess they wouldn't look as cool as TFC Toys' Poseidon but I would buy them if doesn't screw up totally.bodrock wrote:Terrorcons, Horrorcons -- what about the Seacons?! I'd love a Tentakil update.
bodrock wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if they were an exclusive boxset later on....
That's pretty likely if they make them at all.
Snap Trap - Sky Lynx retool
Overbite - Rippersnapper recolor
Tentakil - Blot retool
Nautilator - Sinnertwin retool
Skalor - Rippersnapper retool
Seawing - Cutthroat retool or more just using the transformation scheme and assembling the beast mode backwards
Posted by Skritz on January 14th, 2018 @ 1:39pm CST
Albatross250 wrote:Does everyone kept waiting for Apeface and Snapdragon as of now?
Not for PotP, but I suppose it would not be impossible for them to be released as figures in a later Generations line. Either with or without their Headmaster gimmick intact, in the former's case they would simply have compatible engineering with previous Titan Masters.
I'll repeat myself but it still bugs me that in a line with mandatory headmaster and triple-changers at a Voyager class we never got Horrorcons. Hasbro was smoking some weird shit when they decided to skip these guys.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 14th, 2018 @ 1:47pm CST
There's a possibility to get them in PotP. They could treat them like Sky Lynx.Skritz wrote:Not for PotP, but I suppose it would not be impossible for them to be released as figures in a later Generations line. Either with or without their Headmaster gimmick intact, in the former's case they would simply have compatible engineering with previous Titan Masters.Albatross250 wrote:Does everyone kept waiting for Apeface and Snapdragon as of now?
PotP alt mode = G1 vehicle mode
PotP robot mode = G1 beast mode
PotP combiner mode= G1 robot mode
Or they swap robot and beast mode which would be pretty cool. Just imagine a combiner gorilla and a combiner dragon.
Skritz wrote:I'll repeat myself but it still bugs me that in a line with mandatory headmaster and triple-changers at a Voyager class we never got Horrorcons. Hasbro was smoking some weird **** when they decided to skip these guys.
I totally agree.
Posted by RodimusRex on January 14th, 2018 @ 2:43pm CST
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Btw, I read somewhere that Blot is a retool of Rippersnapper... I don't see any pieces in common at all, do you?
Ok, I'll grant you the hips, the upper legs and the Combiner port, anything else?
Yeah, I read the same thing on TFWiki. Strangely both times they called Blot a heavy retool of Rippersnapper even though they would have been designed at the same time so who can really say which was made first? And that's really all I see, the entire upper legs from the knees to the hips, the combiner peg, and the peg cover. Seems more like a case of parts sharing than anything like retooling.
Emerje
TF Wiki seems to have very idiosyncratic ideas about retool terminology. Guessing maybe it’s Walky’s preferences manifesting?
For example, there are cases of pretooling or shared tooling but they always treat the first released figure as the “original”. Even if it isn’t the first DISPLAYED figure or is obviously a redeco of a later figure obviously designed first.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 14th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CST
RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Btw, I read somewhere that Blot is a retool of Rippersnapper... I don't see any pieces in common at all, do you?
Ok, I'll grant you the hips, the upper legs and the Combiner port, anything else?
Yeah, I read the same thing on TFWiki. Strangely both times they called Blot a heavy retool of Rippersnapper even though they would have been designed at the same time so who can really say which was made first? And that's really all I see, the entire upper legs from the knees to the hips, the combiner peg, and the peg cover. Seems more like a case of parts sharing than anything like retooling.
Emerje
TF Wiki seems to have very idiosyncratic ideas about retool terminology. Guessing maybe it’s Walky’s preferences manifesting?
For example, there are cases of pretooling or shared tooling but they always treat the first released figure as the “original”. Even if it isn’t the first DISPLAYED figure or is obviously a redeco of a later figure obviously designed first.
The pieces from their crotches to their knees seem all to be the same.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 14th, 2018 @ 3:34pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:RodimusRex wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Btw, I read somewhere that Blot is a retool of Rippersnapper... I don't see any pieces in common at all, do you?
Ok, I'll grant you the hips, the upper legs and the Combiner port, anything else?
Yeah, I read the same thing on TFWiki. Strangely both times they called Blot a heavy retool of Rippersnapper even though they would have been designed at the same time so who can really say which was made first? And that's really all I see, the entire upper legs from the knees to the hips, the combiner peg, and the peg cover. Seems more like a case of parts sharing than anything like retooling.
Emerje
TF Wiki seems to have very idiosyncratic ideas about retool terminology. Guessing maybe it’s Walky’s preferences manifesting?
For example, there are cases of pretooling or shared tooling but they always treat the first released figure as the “original”. Even if it isn’t the first DISPLAYED figure or is obviously a redeco of a later figure obviously designed first.
The pieces from their crotches to their knees seem all to be the same.
I.e. the upper legs. With the Combiner Peg that's all they share. Ugh, I'll put them together anyway as part sharers, it's possible they share some we don't immediately see like the joints.
The term is a mess anyway, no need for discussion about it in this thread and derail it once again.
Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
Posted by Rated X on January 14th, 2018 @ 3:38pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:00pm CST
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:01pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:12pm CST
That was Swerve.Black Hat wrote:Oh old Tailgate, with his iconic scene where he appears, gets stood on by Trypticon and never does anything again!
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:18pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
There isn't any. Just paint
Posted by MECHdirge on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:23pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:36pm CST
MECHdirge wrote:I really like this Tailgate. I have a recent third party version, but I just received a G1 Tailgate for Christmas, one of the last inexpensive figures from the first three years I was missing. Anyway, I think this is a nice addition to the line and is better than the Combiner Wars version. Just my take.
What combiner wars version?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:39pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
And you are so right, just paint and stickers. Just goes to show how different Windcharger and Tailgate look on first sight.
william-james88 wrote:MECHdirge wrote:I really like this Tailgate. I have a recent third party version, but I just received a G1 Tailgate for Christmas, one of the last inexpensive figures from the first three years I was missing. Anyway, I think this is a nice addition to the line and is better than the Combiner Wars version. Just my take.
What combiner wars version?
I think he means the T30 one. The CW one is his retool Windcharger.
Yup, T30 to CW went in the opposite direction
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:41pm CST
william-james88 wrote:MECHdirge wrote:I really like this Tailgate. I have a recent third party version, but I just received a G1 Tailgate for Christmas, one of the last inexpensive figures from the first three years I was missing. Anyway, I think this is a nice addition to the line and is better than the Combiner Wars version. Just my take.
What combiner wars version?
I guess he means the Thrilling 30th one or its recolor Combiner Wars Windcharger.
Speaking of Minibots, Beachcomber's alt mode is pretty big compared to Brawn.
Posted by DMSL on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:42pm CST
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 14th, 2018 @ 4:44pm CST
DMSL wrote:It must be a headmaster otherwise the trio will just look lame together. They can easily retool Grotusque. Just remove the tail and wings, give him a new head and hind legs and you are done.
Remove the tail? So you want a Repugnus without legs in robot mode
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 14th, 2018 @ 5:02pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
And you are so right, just paint and stickers. Just goes to show how different Windcharger and Tailgate look on first sight.
No stickers just paint.
Posted by Randomhero on January 14th, 2018 @ 5:18pm CST
Skritz wrote:Albatross250 wrote:Does everyone kept waiting for Apeface and Snapdragon as of now?
Not for PotP, but I suppose it would not be impossible for them to be released as figures in a later Generations line. Either with or without their Headmaster gimmick intact, in the former's case they would simply have compatible engineering with previous Titan Masters.
I'll repeat myself but it still bugs me that in a line with mandatory headmaster and triple-changers at a Voyager class we never got Horrorcons. Hasbro was smoking some weird **** when they decided to skip these guys.
What do you mean?? There was the huge news post about an employee from amazon who said there will be beast wars box sets with Optimus Primal using the POTP ape face mold but not a headmaster and Megatron using the POTP Snapdragon mood also not being a headmaster and there would be 5-6 figures per box! The guy who claimed all this even saw pictures even though that’s not how that works in the slightest!
Oh wait that was a whole bunch of lies once we found out POTP line main gimmick was combiners. God I still think about that and how full of it that whole thing was.
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on January 14th, 2018 @ 5:21pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:DMSL wrote:It must be a headmaster otherwise the trio will just look lame together. They can easily retool Grotusque. Just remove the tail and wings, give him a new head and hind legs and you are done.
Remove the tail? So you want a Repugnus without legs in robot mode
Nah. Just switch the pointy tail-bits with nubs so that it is more of an insect-abdomen.
Posted by Cobotron on January 14th, 2018 @ 6:45pm CST
THIS! Took the ideawords right out of my brainmouth.DecepticonFinishline wrote:[Nah. Just switch the pointy tail-bits with nubs so that it is more of an insect-abdomen.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 14th, 2018 @ 6:48pm CST
Cobotron wrote:THIS! Took the ideawords right out of my brainmouth.DecepticonFinishline wrote:[Nah. Just switch the pointy tail-bits with nubs so that it is more of an insect-abdomen.
Now all we need is a third Battle Beast to be his head
Posted by Skritz on January 14th, 2018 @ 7:46pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:Speaking of Minibots, Beachcomber's alt mode is pretty big compared to Brawn.
What do you expect? It's Brawn.
Posted by bodrock on January 14th, 2018 @ 8:15pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:Same here. I guess they wouldn't look as cool as TFC Toys' Poseidon but I would buy them if doesn't screw up totally.bodrock wrote:Terrorcons, Horrorcons -- what about the Seacons?! I'd love a Tentakil update.bodrock wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if they were an exclusive boxset later on....
That's pretty likely if they make them at all.
Snap Trap - Sky Lynx retool
Overbite - Rippersnapper recolor
Tentakil - Blot retool
Nautilator - Sinnertwin retool
Skalor - Rippersnapper retool
Seawing - Cutthroat retool or more just using the transformation scheme and assembling the beast mode backwards
I like your ideas, Lunatic Prime -- all the above would work, without a doubt.
And TFC's Toys Poseidon was definitely godly -- they made the entire Seacon crew look as cool as they should be, since they're all basically sea mutants.
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The upcoming Legends Tailgate looks good; I'll be picking him up, no doubt. I wonder when wave2 will start appearing....
Posted by william-james88 on January 14th, 2018 @ 9:06pm CST
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2018 @ 9:29pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:YupAlbatross250 wrote:Does everyone kept waiting for Apeface and Snapdragon as of now?
Hoped for them to be the Titans Return wave 06 Voyagers...
I guess we won't get them or as some kind of exclusive. Either in two different box sets like Twinbots or like Arcee, Grotusque, Blast Off and Repugnus.
We've been told that since the Titan Master engineering already exists they plan on going back to it after the Prime Wars Trilogy. They've probably saved the pair for that line's Voyager class as well as the smaller '88 Headmasters for Deluxe class and Titan class Scorponok. Probably also see the Autobot Targetmasters and the rest of the double Targetmasters at that time as well.
Emerje
Posted by MECHdirge on January 14th, 2018 @ 9:45pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 14th, 2018 @ 9:52pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Cobotron wrote:THIS! Took the ideawords right out of my brainmouth.DecepticonFinishline wrote:[Nah. Just switch the pointy tail-bits with nubs so that it is more of an insect-abdomen.
Now all we need is a third Battle Beast to be his head
I vote this one!
Posted by Rated X on January 14th, 2018 @ 10:36pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:That was Swerve.Black Hat wrote:Oh old Tailgate, with his iconic scene where he appears, gets stood on by Trypticon and never does anything again!
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on January 14th, 2018 @ 11:05pm CST
Cobotron wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Cobotron wrote:THIS! Took the ideawords right out of my brainmouth.DecepticonFinishline wrote:[Nah. Just switch the pointy tail-bits with nubs so that it is more of an insect-abdomen.
Now all we need is a third Battle Beast to be his head
I vote this one!
Real-talk. I'm down. Gimme a giraffeeboi.
Posted by bodrock on January 14th, 2018 @ 11:45pm CST
And to go with Cary's suggestion from earlier, the Nu Battle Beasts could have a Prime for their rubsign!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 15th, 2018 @ 1:12am CST
Rated X wrote:I hated that damn IDW tailgate. I was also upset that we never got one from the scout class Windcharger mold. So its great Tailgate finally gets some justice. Now all we need is a proper Huffer/Pipes original mold instead of a crappy prime repaint.
And a proper Warpath Legends class mold too! He needs his classic chest "cannon."
Posted by leokearon on January 15th, 2018 @ 5:06am CST
Posted by Emerje on January 15th, 2018 @ 6:44am CST
steals_your_goats wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Back to Tailgate, he looks decent. Good call on retooling the chest as well as the head.
I don't see any retooling of the chest.
And you are so right, just paint and stickers. Just goes to show how different Windcharger and Tailgate look on first sight.
No stickers just paint.
Technically it's paint and tampographs which are made with ink and a stamp so you're both wrong.
Emerje
Posted by Rated X on January 15th, 2018 @ 8:21am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Rated X wrote:I hated that damn IDW tailgate. I was also upset that we never got one from the scout class Windcharger mold. So its great Tailgate finally gets some justice. Now all we need is a proper Huffer/Pipes original mold instead of a crappy prime repaint.
And a proper Warpath Legends class mold too! He needs his classic chest "cannon."
Well for me Warpath is a grey area. Im a toon accuracy guy who puts scale first. So in my mind Warpath got a proper figure a long time ago with his deluxe mold. He was portrayed as being the same size as an autobot car in the cartoon consistently. While I would welcome a tank not shaped like an "H" if it wasnt deluxe scale Id be pissed. Then the KO guys would have to do him justice.
Also, Powerglide went back and forth in the cartoon from being smaller to being regular sized in different episodes. But theres a high quality upsized KO of powerglide that is on par with the quality of the original. So I have the best of both scales on display.
Posted by Rated X on January 15th, 2018 @ 8:36am CST
leokearon wrote:I want a Pipes which has Pipes not Blue Huffer
Im with you on that. But you gotta get the base mold right before you do the retool. Using a smaller scale Prime on the sole basis that he was a truck was a total fail. With Huffer/Pipes the main difference wasnt the pipes but actually his hood. Making them both cartoon accurate while using the same base mold might be difficult. I suppose you could retool the lower arms with fake "pipes" but where would they go in truck mode?
Posted by Marcdachamp on January 15th, 2018 @ 9:18am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on January 15th, 2018 @ 10:24am CST
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That was Swerve.Black Hat wrote:Oh old Tailgate, with his iconic scene where he appears, gets stood on by Trypticon and never does anything again!
Hey, not my fault the late-G1 Minibots were so utterly forgettable in the cartoon.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 15th, 2018 @ 10:59am CST
Rated X wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Rated X wrote:I hated that damn IDW tailgate. I was also upset that we never got one from the scout class Windcharger mold. So its great Tailgate finally gets some justice. Now all we need is a proper Huffer/Pipes original mold instead of a crappy prime repaint.
And a proper Warpath Legends class mold too! He needs his classic chest "cannon."
Well for me Warpath is a grey area. Im a toon accuracy guy who puts scale first. So in my mind Warpath got a proper figure a long time ago with his deluxe mold. He was portrayed as being the same size as an autobot car in the cartoon consistently. While I would welcome a tank not shaped like an "H" if it wasnt deluxe scale Id be pissed. Then the KO guys would have to do him justice.
Also, Powerglide went back and forth in the cartoon from being smaller to being regular sized in different episodes. But theres a high quality upsized KO of powerglide that is on par with the quality of the original. So I have the best of both scales on display.
I dunno. I think Warpath is at least inconsistent in size, like with Powerglide. He looks pretty diminutive compared to Hound and Prowl in this shot, even if there is some bad layering going on. Legends sized Warpath is preferable to me.
Posted by william-james88 on January 15th, 2018 @ 11:06am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 15th, 2018 @ 11:19am CST
Here's a bigger gallery of screencaps for Warpath that may show his cartoon size better.Wolfman Jake wrote:Rated X wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Rated X wrote:I hated that damn IDW tailgate. I was also upset that we never got one from the scout class Windcharger mold. So its great Tailgate finally gets some justice. Now all we need is a proper Huffer/Pipes original mold instead of a crappy prime repaint.
And a proper Warpath Legends class mold too! He needs his classic chest "cannon."
Well for me Warpath is a grey area. Im a toon accuracy guy who puts scale first. So in my mind Warpath got a proper figure a long time ago with his deluxe mold. He was portrayed as being the same size as an autobot car in the cartoon consistently. While I would welcome a tank not shaped like an "H" if it wasnt deluxe scale Id be pissed. Then the KO guys would have to do him justice.
Also, Powerglide went back and forth in the cartoon from being smaller to being regular sized in different episodes. But theres a high quality upsized KO of powerglide that is on par with the quality of the original. So I have the best of both scales on display.
I dunno. I think Warpath is at least inconsistent in size, like with Powerglide. He looks pretty diminutive compared to Hound and Prowl in this shot, even if there is some bad layering going on. Legends sized Warpath is preferable to me.
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 15th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CST
Marcdachamp wrote:So what are the odds we'll get Blast Off in G2 colors, too? Slim, right?
I'd say very slim. That would be the kind of thing that would be perfect to release as part of the Transformers Fan Club, but that seems to have been killed off before it even began. I was hoping they would use the club to release obscure things like that, but alas.
Posted by no-one on January 15th, 2018 @ 1:35pm CST
And you can use his little dino arm as a sword sheath.
Posted by Cobotron on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CST
Well played good sir! Well played.
Laser Prime is now in charge of my TR shelf, and since my 3 year old lost regular TR Prime's head ( ) I have an extra set of weapons up for grabs.
The gun is actually pretty spot on for ol' Grimsocks!
Also,
DINO DUMMIES!!!!
Posted by no-one on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:35pm CST
Yup, sometimes you just gotta know how to have fun and not take them too seriously.Cobotron wrote:Well, somebody knows how to get the most out of their action figure and accesories.
Well played good sir! Well played.
Also,
DINO DUMMIES!!!!
Derp recognized derp
Posted by Cobotron on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:36pm CST
That looks SO stupid! I love it!
Posted by no-one on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CST
With his head tilted he's like "whatcha looking at?"Cobotron wrote:DERP UNITE!
That looks SO stupid! I love it!
I think we can officially declare PotP as a fun toy-line
I am not amused...
Posted by william-james88 on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:55pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Laser Prime is now in charge of my TR shelf, and since my 3 year old lost regular TR Prime's head ( ) I have an extra set of weapons up for grabs.
You never know when you might find it again. I was missing a voltron missile one year ago (from the set you got me actually) and I eventually found it months later near my mailbox when the snow finally melted
Posted by Cobotron on January 15th, 2018 @ 4:04pm CST
The mailbox?!?! Did it shoot all the way out there?!william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Laser Prime is now in charge of my TR shelf, and since my 3 year old lost regular TR Prime's head ( ) I have an extra set of weapons up for grabs.
You never know when you might find it again. I was missing a voltron missile one year ago (from the set you got me actually) and I eventually found it months later near my mailbox when the snow finally melted
I'm sure I'll find Diac some day. He's gotta be in the house somewhere. I'm sure 3 years from now I'll be cleaning up some mess the kids made and find it.
Posted by o.supreme on January 16th, 2018 @ 10:02am CST
Black Hat wrote:Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That was Swerve.Black Hat wrote:Oh old Tailgate, with his iconic scene where he appears, gets stood on by Trypticon and never does anything again!
Hey, not my fault the late-G1 Minibots were so utterly forgettable in the cartoon.
...and practically non existent in the Marvel Comics