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Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer

Transformers News: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer

Wednesday, June 15th, 2016 9:59AM CDT

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While waiting for the Seibertron gallery of the Transformers Club's Spinister, fellow Seibertronian Chuckdawg1999 has a video review for us. Spinister is a repaint of the Combiner Wars Alpha Bravo mold and is the 3rd figure for Thunder Mayhem to be released behind Grabuge (Ruckus) and Needlenose. You can also read the bio of this character here. Before we get to the review, here are some words from the bio's writer, Protoman:

Did a lot of fan wank writing for this one, mentioning his brief Dreamwave Armada comics appearance, his obscure Generations toy 2-pack and more. Nice to finally update a G1 character with a toy that does him justice.


The Generations Spinister referred to above is this figure.

Now onto the review!


Credit(s): chuckdawg1999

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Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1797954)
Posted by Down_Shift on June 15th, 2016 @ 10:31am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Protoman:

Did a lot of fan wank writing for this one, mentioning his brief Dreamwave Armada comics appearance, his obscure Generations toy 2-pack and more. Nice to finally update a G1 character with a toy that does him justice.




PROTOMUS... OUT!
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1798059)
Posted by Zeedust on June 15th, 2016 @ 4:57pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:And this goes on ebay while I wait for the rest of the FSS.


Something made me change my mind about this and keep him, and I'm glad I did.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1798412)
Posted by kurthy on June 17th, 2016 @ 11:36am CDT
I'm getting a little frustrated with FunPub at the moment. I haven't gotten Ramjet yet and I'm keep leaving messages on the TCC website but no one is responding in the last week.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1798413)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 17th, 2016 @ 11:41am CDT
kurthy wrote:I'm getting a little frustrated with FunPub at the moment. I haven't gotten Ramjet yet and I'm keep leaving messages on the TCC website but no one is responding in the last week.
Have you tried calling them? Both Karen and Angie are nice and helpful.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1798435)
Posted by G.B. Blackrock on June 17th, 2016 @ 12:10pm CDT
kurthy wrote:I'm getting a little frustrated with FunPub at the moment. I haven't gotten Ramjet yet and I'm keep leaving messages on the TCC website but no one is responding in the last week.


Joe Con is in progress (June 16th-19th). No one's around for a few more days yet.

A lot of folks still haven't gotten Ramjet yet. It's early to start worrying.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1798474)
Posted by gothsaurus on June 17th, 2016 @ 1:51pm CDT
That makes sense. Those are the two weeks they're out of pocket... Botcon & Joecon.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1798653)
Posted by Decepticon619 on June 17th, 2016 @ 11:22pm CDT
I'm one of the one's who has yet to receive their Ramjet, but I thought I'd ask around before worrying too much! The cutoff was in March if I do recall correctly? I wasn't sure so I figured I'd ask, how long are (were?) Memberships good for? I believe I signed up for TFSS 4.0 (+Membership) around end of August 2015, so I thought they were good for at least a year, I should be good right? I'd definitely like to get Skywarp and complete the set as best as possible as well, the head mold won't go perfectly but I imagine he'll look nice beside Armada Starscream and Takara Super Mode Starscream (AKA Thundercracker if I'm not wrong in calling him that!)
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1799164)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on June 20th, 2016 @ 5:30pm CDT
When does the fourth figure ship out?
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1799174)
Posted by RNSrobot on June 20th, 2016 @ 6:46pm CDT
Oh god, so sexy.

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Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1800585)
Posted by Zeedust on June 25th, 2016 @ 4:19pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:When does the fourth figure ship out?


When they were about to start shipping, they said it would be one every three weeks, but for the first three figures it was one every two weeks. Maybe they went back to the three-week time frame they originally intended?
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1800593)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on June 25th, 2016 @ 4:54pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:When does the fourth figure ship out?


When they were about to start shipping, they said it would be one every three weeks, but for the first three figures it was one every two weeks. Maybe they went back to the three-week time frame they originally intended?


the delay might have been due to JoeCon. since it was last weekend and all. I'm kinda glad since it also means a delay in the last installment being due. hope we hear some news from the club on when to expect that last payment hitting
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1802526)
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 1st, 2016 @ 3:43pm CDT
The next subscription figure should be coming in soon. I got mine today and surprise surprise it's windsweeper. I'm going to be honest this is the guy I was least excited for going into this but having him in hand he's really nice. There's a lot of paint on him and unlike ruckus there's no obvious blemishes. I would take pictures but I'm lazy.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1802529)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 1st, 2016 @ 3:51pm CDT
Got mine in today. Looks perfect. This year has been a home run.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1802536)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 1st, 2016 @ 4:24pm CDT
Just got mine, he looks great, and the Matrix of Malice looks pretty cool to
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1802652)
Posted by Zeedust on July 2nd, 2016 @ 2:08am CDT
Is there anything Windsweeper can actually do with the Matrix of Malice?
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1802713)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 2nd, 2016 @ 11:33am CDT
Zeedust wrote:Is there anything Windsweeper can actually do with the Matrix of Malice?

not that I can tell, cant hold it i think its meant to be held by the combined form
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1802721)
Posted by Flux Convoy on July 2nd, 2016 @ 12:07pm CDT
What is the hold up with putting Skywarp and the Almost Human figures up for order?
:BOT:
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1802858)
Posted by Zeedust on July 2nd, 2016 @ 10:24pm CDT
grimdragon2001 wrote:not that I can tell, cant hold it i think its meant to be held by the combined form


Thanks.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803637)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:08am CDT
Well, I got charged for the last two figures. Impactor and Bludegon, away!
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803662)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 6th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CDT
still quite curious what the surprise figure is. Hoping for Quake to complete the trio.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803703)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 6th, 2016 @ 3:15pm CDT
Quake might be nice, but im still hoping for Eagle Eye to round out Serpent OR's team
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803704)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 6th, 2016 @ 3:18pm CDT
Whoever it is might probably be the fifth component of Wreckage, as Alpha Bravo and Offroad were meant to be replacement limbs people could use if they only got TFSS 5.0 but not TFSS 4.0.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803755)
Posted by Zeedust on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:27pm CDT
The matrix of Malice feels die-cast to me. Am I losing my mind?

Sabrblade wrote:Whoever it is might probably be the fifth component of Wreckage, as Alpha Bravo and Offroad were meant to be replacement limbs people could use if they only got TFSS 5.0 but not TFSS 4.0.


If that's the case, I suspect it'll be Rotorstorm from Blades, so he can say "Wreckers, Combine!" and MEAN it.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803756)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:29pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:The matrix of Malice feels die-cast to me.
Yeah, it's the MP-10 Matrix mold. Die-cast and all.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803758)
Posted by Zeedust on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:40pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:The matrix of Malice feels die-cast to me.
Yeah, it's the MP-10 Matrix mold. Die-cast and all.

Thanks. I don't tend to pay much attention to MPs.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1803894)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 7th, 2016 @ 10:37pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:The matrix of Malice feels die-cast to me.
Yeah, it's the MP-10 Matrix mold. Die-cast and all.

Thanks. I don't tend to pay much attention to MPs.


At least it's not the version that came with TFC-00 Convoy again, the one with the chain. I wonder how that one would look on Thunder Mayhem.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804014)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on July 8th, 2016 @ 2:06pm CDT
I'm interested to see who the bonus figure will be, but the pressing question for me is who's next.

Place your bets, people! Impactor or Bludgeon! ;) :michaelbay:
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804022)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 8th, 2016 @ 2:34pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm interested to see who the bonus figure will be, but the pressing question for me is who's next.

Place your bets, people! Impactor or Bludgeon! ;) :michaelbay:


I'm thinking Bludgeon is next, simply because the bonus figure may be easier to package with Impactor.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804045)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 8th, 2016 @ 3:06pm CDT
Touche, Grimdragon. I hadn't thought of that. You're probably right on the money. :BOWDOWN:
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804061)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on July 8th, 2016 @ 4:02pm CDT
grimdragon2001 wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm interested to see who the bonus figure will be, but the pressing question for me is who's next.

Place your bets, people! Impactor or Bludgeon! ;) :michaelbay:


I'm thinking Bludgeon is next, simply because the bonus figure may be easier to package with Impactor.


Hmm, yeah. That does make the most sense. :APPLAUSE:
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804125)
Posted by RNSrobot on July 9th, 2016 @ 12:13am CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm interested to see who the bonus figure will be, but the pressing question for me is who's next.

Place your bets, people! Impactor or Bludgeon! ;) :michaelbay:


I vote bludgeon. It makes sense to finish the combiner and as noted Bludgeon's box will be big. Easier to fit two deluxes in the last box.

So take this with a pound of salt, but a friend of mine knows some club people and apparently he saw a promo pic of the exclusive and it's bluestreak.

I don't vouch for his info at all, just reporting from. Reasonable source.r
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804142)
Posted by Zeedust on July 9th, 2016 @ 2:50am CDT
grimdragon2001 wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm interested to see who the bonus figure will be, but the pressing question for me is who's next.

Place your bets, people! Impactor or Bludgeon! ;) :michaelbay:


I'm thinking Bludgeon is next, simply because the bonus figure may be easier to package with Impactor.


It would also mean they could show Wreckage on Impactor's instructions without ruining any surprises.

RNSrobot wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:So take this with a pound of salt, but a friend of mine knows some club people and apparently he saw a promo pic of the exclusive and it's bluestreak.

I don't vouch for his info at all, just reporting from. Reasonable source.r

If that turns out to be the case, color me disappointed.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804568)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 11th, 2016 @ 10:02am CDT
Have to say that while I'd be a little disappointed to not complete the Decepticon targetmaster lineup... if that is indeed the exclusive I'd be SUPER pleased.

This is exactly what the club should be for. Completing "mandatory" lineups like the seeker trio, etc. There needs to be a place to get those toys out when they fall through the cracks.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804599)
Posted by G.B. Blackrock on July 11th, 2016 @ 12:00pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:
grimdragon2001 wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm interested to see who the bonus figure will be, but the pressing question for me is who's next.

Place your bets, people! Impactor or Bludgeon! ;) :michaelbay:


I'm thinking Bludgeon is next, simply because the bonus figure may be easier to package with Impactor.


It would also mean they could show Wreckage on Impactor's instructions without ruining any surprises.

RNSrobot wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:So take this with a pound of salt, but a friend of mine knows some club people and apparently he saw a promo pic of the exclusive and it's bluestreak.

I don't vouch for his info at all, just reporting from. Reasonable source.r

If that turns out to be the case, color me disappointed.

For me, of the ideas I've heard tossed around, this is the one I actually like the best, although that comes with the caveat that I don't think the CW mold is an especially good Fairlady-bros body type.

I'll be perfectly happy if I learn that it's an idea I've not seen considered yet (assuming that it's a good idea, of course).
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1804601)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 11th, 2016 @ 12:03pm CDT
Yeah, I agree it's not the best match... between why-didn't-they-shave-these-off sirensand the chest-is-not-made-of-a-car-hood robot mode. But I'd still have been seriously disappointed if they didn't crank out the third one of the trio.

Makes me think. Who else from the original Ark cast have they left out of the new combiner line? Hmmmm. >:oP
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805351)
Posted by Autobot N on July 13th, 2016 @ 8:38pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I agree it's not the best match... between why-didn't-they-shave-these-off sirensand the chest-is-not-made-of-a-car-hood robot mode. But I'd still have been seriously disappointed if they didn't crank out the third one of the trio.

Makes me think. Who else from the original Ark cast have they left out of the new combiner line? Hmmmm. >:oP
Besides Bluestreak, there's Jazz, Sideswipe, Hauler, and the mini-vehicles.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805481)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 14th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
Hoist would be an easy season 2 repaint. Since Hauler wasn't a major player (and we don't have a mold for Inferno/Grapple) I'm okay knowing we won't see him.

Would love all the mini bots though. If they re-did them as nicely as Wheelie....
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805488)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on July 14th, 2016 @ 9:13am CDT
So I'm gonna guess end of July/beginning of August for the next one. As for the possible bonus figure? I'd be down with that. :D He was my first-ever transformers toy back in the day.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805516)
Posted by RNSrobot on July 14th, 2016 @ 10:53am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Hoist would be an easy season 2 repaint. Since Hauler wasn't a major player (and we don't have a mold for Inferno/Grapple) I'm okay knowing we won't see him.

Would love all the mini bots though. If they re-did them as nicely as Wheelie....


I simply wish they'd re-used First Aid as either Ironhide or Trailbreaker.

Hoping for Bludgeon before July is out. I have four limbs longing for a torso lol.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805519)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 14th, 2016 @ 11:05am CDT
RNSrobot wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Hoist would be an easy season 2 repaint. Since Hauler wasn't a major player (and we don't have a mold for Inferno/Grapple) I'm okay knowing we won't see him.

Would love all the mini bots though. If they re-did them as nicely as Wheelie....


I simply wish they'd re-used First Aid as either Ironhide or Trailbreaker.

Hoping for Bludgeon before July is out. I have four limbs longing for a torso lol.


Dont you have a sad and lonely Cyclonus to hold Bludgeon's place til he arrives? Spinister does make a nice Fusion Cannon arm :-D
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805525)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 14th, 2016 @ 11:22am CDT
hey RNSrobot,

I'm a little confused. They did already release a Trailbreaker and Ironhide based on that First Aid body style. Not sure what you're wanting... (?)

Sorry if I've missed something here.

:???:
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805529)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on July 14th, 2016 @ 11:33am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:hey RNSrobot,

I'm a little confused. They did already release a Trailbreaker and Ironhide based on that First Aid body style. Not sure what you're wanting... (?)

Sorry if I've missed something here.

:???:


I think he means the Ambulance/SUV version that First Aid was instead of the basic truck version that Offroad was. Retools can make this more tricky
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805531)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 14th, 2016 @ 11:38am CDT
oh yeah. there was a camper-back to that version of the mold. Agreed. I wish they had thought to do that. With the similarities with arms/legs, etc. I forgot all about the pick-up truck style back.

Maybe a third party will come out with a camper top.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805584)
Posted by RNSrobot on July 14th, 2016 @ 1:44pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:oh yeah. there was a camper-back to that version of the mold. Agreed. I wish they had thought to do that. With the similarities with arms/legs, etc. I forgot all about the pick-up truck style back.

Maybe a third party will come out with a camper top.


Yeah, I think ironhide or trailbreaker would have been fun with the first aid version of the mold. I REALLY like the first aid tooling.

Albeit I REALLY like trailbreaker. The new forearms go a long way to giving him character and the black is just so slick.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805635)
Posted by G.B. Blackrock on July 14th, 2016 @ 3:23pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:So I'm gonna guess end of July/beginning of August for the next one. As for the possible bonus figure? I'd be down with that. :D He was my first-ever transformers toy back in the day.


At this stage of FunPub's final year, I'm less concerned about the timing of the remaining 4.0 figures, and even of the timing of 5.0 (since we've already ordered it), and more for when they're going to get orders for the Joe crossover set, Skywarp, and the Only Human figures up.

We're running out of time....
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805669)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on July 14th, 2016 @ 5:31pm CDT
G.B. Blackrock wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:So I'm gonna guess end of July/beginning of August for the next one. As for the possible bonus figure? I'd be down with that. :D He was my first-ever transformers toy back in the day.


At this stage of FunPub's final year, I'm less concerned about the timing of the remaining 4.0 figures, and even of the timing of 5.0 (since we've already ordered it), and more for when they're going to get orders for the Joe crossover set, Skyward, and the Only Human figures up.

We're running out of time....

Good point. Yeah, that is worrying.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805750)
Posted by Zeedust on July 14th, 2016 @ 10:43pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:This is exactly what the club should be for. Completing "mandatory" lineups like the seeker trio, etc. There needs to be a place to get those toys out when they fall through the cracks.


I'd have to disagree there. I think those are better suited to store exclusives or online shared exclusives (Like Brake-neck, Quickslinger, and deluxe Groove). The club makes a better venue for further-out stuff like Toxitron that would never be even considered otherwise.
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805767)
Posted by Zeedust on July 15th, 2016 @ 2:32am CDT
grimdragon2001 wrote:Dont you have a sad and lonely Cyclonus to hold Bludgeon's place til he arrives? Spinister does make a nice Fusion Cannon arm :-D


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Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805836)
Posted by RNSrobot on July 15th, 2016 @ 9:39am CDT
grimdragon2001 wrote:
RNSrobot wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Hoist would be an easy season 2 repaint. Since Hauler wasn't a major player (and we don't have a mold for Inferno/Grapple) I'm okay knowing we won't see him.

Would love all the mini bots though. If they re-did them as nicely as Wheelie....


I simply wish they'd re-used First Aid as either Ironhide or Trailbreaker.

Hoping for Bludgeon before July is out. I have four limbs longing for a torso lol.


Dont you have a sad and lonely Cyclonus to hold Bludgeon's place til he arrives? Spinister does make a nice Fusion Cannon arm :-D


I've given them a lonely Scattershot. The limbs didn't really WANT to, I mean... Betatron? ;)

Cyclonus, on my shelf, is Cyclonus & the F***** Trucks. All four trucks are all four limbs. :michaelbay:
Re: Video Review of Transformers TFSS 4.0 Spinister and Comments from Bio Writer (1805837)
Posted by gothsaurus on July 15th, 2016 @ 9:48am CDT
Hey Zeedust.

Yeah, I think my point is that the club is a place for these toys(like Bluestreak) only AFTER they have fallen through the cracks.

But exactly as you said, the FIRST place I want to see them is store exclusives. But when Hasbro can't find a store to direct those toys to... and the line is over, THEN club is a great place to direct those "lost" characters we'd otherwise never get.

Of course, I ALSO really want to see the club do super-rare and random, wild characters from comics, lore, etc. The unreleased prototype characters are a great example. Those are probably the figures I've been most surprised and pleased by.

I guess bottom line, I think the club is a place for a MIX of figures. And I think they've done a great job of this... throwing a bone to fans of animated, G1, action masters, beast wars, diaclone, G2, Shattered Glass, UK comics, and even pretenders.

I hope Hasbro can take notice of how deeply TFCC dug and researched. I'd be really disappointed if we started getting convention exclusives that were just night/arctic Bumblebee/Prime repaints and chrome versions of characters... instead of new characters that show someone on the team did some serious homework to come up with and produce.

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