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Posted by Quantum Surge on July 27th, 2021 @ 11:46pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2021 @ 12:01am CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:Wouldn't count it as news but I [i]do[i] get the idea of Cyberverse being a line for kids. It's just a shame they feel less impressive than the other stuff meant for kids back then like the Unicron Trilogy, Animated, or the Fast Action Battlers of the first two movies.
I think we should leave that for the kids to decide.
Posted by Lore Keeper on July 28th, 2021 @ 12:44am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Quantum Surge wrote:Wouldn't count it as news but I [i]do[i] get the idea of Cyberverse being a line for kids. It's just a shame they feel less impressive than the other stuff meant for kids back then like the Unicron Trilogy, Animated, or the Fast Action Battlers of the first two movies.
I think we should leave that for the kids to decide.
Mine did. They went straight from Rescue Bots to Generations because they think Cyberverse toys are junk.
Posted by noctorro on July 28th, 2021 @ 1:11am CDT
I for one love the Cyberverse show as a 36 year old. It felt more G1 than a lot of shows from recent memory. I enjoyed it soo much more than Earthrise and Siege and that was made for me.
I also like the Cyberverse toys enough to collect most of the line. I'm probably one of the small group of adult collectors who likes non-complex transformations. That's why I do have a lot of movie bots but am not enjoying them like Combiner Wars and up.
Can't wait for one of my kids to be old enough to notice and enjoy Transformers!
Posted by Mistaken_Table on July 28th, 2021 @ 2:07am CDT
Yeah, I can look at the Cyberverse line, judge it next to the other lines and give them a hard pass. They need to be simple for kids to work out/remember, have little-no accessories so there's less to lose/swallow and need to be the right ratio of being as durable as possible while being lightweight. I swear my '96 Optimus Primal could make short work of windows.
Right now we have Kingdom, generation selects, 2 separate studio series lines, masterpiece, R.E.D, and I'm probably missing some. Maybe we shouldn't be too upset at a toyline that features toys.
Posted by Sherlock Zero on July 28th, 2021 @ 2:49am CDT
Mind you that any kids I do have will not be introduced to Kiss Players. But I also expect them to not be a Rewind like I tend to be. Because it is more fun thinking about them having Optimus Primal be the protector of a Lego city. Or even have Black Zarak's deluxe Headmaster form go against Monkey D. Luffy since both look like pirates (and not because both have X-shaped scars on their chests).
Man... Now I also hope that Transformers (or something like it) will be around in the future.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2021 @ 4:32am CDT
Narrow sighted people who get off on hate and complaining.
I'm really, REALLY glad that Cyberverse and Rescue bots are a thing. Because not many toddlers or 5 years old can jump straight to Generations and have fun. The kids will make precious memories, then maybe move on to Generations as they get older. Then they enter the pre-teen years and they will think that "toys are for BABIES" and move away from the fandom. Then they become adults. Those Cyberverse/Rescue Bots memories will come back... And then, start collecting again but this time, Generations, MP, 3P, and so on.
I bet that's the story for many of us. Too bad so many forgot it.
Posted by Mistaken_Table on July 28th, 2021 @ 6:51am CDT
https://www.sportsdirect.com/transformers
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2021 @ 7:11am CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:Also, while I remember, Sports Direct in the UK is doing discount Transformers, including Top Gun Crossover Jet for £25
https://www.sportsdirect.com/transformers
Wrong thread for this. Unless that's specifically about Cyberverse toys.
Please repost in the U.K sightings thread:
united-kingdom-transformers-sightings-t42.php
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on July 28th, 2021 @ 7:18am CDT
If I was a kid now I would be into Transformers:Prime but definitely not Cyberverse. I would be collecting Generations & ignoring baby crap like Cyberverse or Bumblebee Adventures.
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:00am CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Quantum Surge wrote:Wouldn't count it as news but I [i]do[i] get the idea of Cyberverse being a line for kids. It's just a shame they feel less impressive than the other stuff meant for kids back then like the Unicron Trilogy, Animated, or the Fast Action Battlers of the first two movies.
I think we should leave that for the kids to decide.
Mine did. They went straight from Rescue Bots to Generations because they think Cyberverse toys are junk.
How old were they when they went from Rescue Bots to Generations? My 3 year old tried generations (like T30 Roadbuster) but found it too hard. So he went from Rescue Bots to Cyberverse. He really likes the quick conversion since he can replicate what he sees in either the G1 show/movie or the Cyberverse show and they are more show accurate than Rescue Bots (Rescue bots keeps messing with the alt modes).
noctorro wrote:I for one love the Cyberverse show as a 36 year old. It felt more G1 than a lot of shows from recent memory. I enjoyed it soo much more than Earthrise and Siege and that was made for me.
As do I. And yes, it feels very G1. It was very telling that the creators developped a show that took place before the autobots in the ark woke up and then did a time jump, skipping all the Autobots vs Decepticons on Earth stuff to get to the War on Cybertron. It's like they are having the G1 show serve as the adventures that happened during that time and don't rethread on it, which I find pretty cool.
And I really like Cyberverse's approach to integrating many different continuities within a unified G1 type story and cast. So you get Cheetor, Skybyte, Lockdown and even an homage to Tarn all in the same show, along with new characters.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:01am CDT
It goes further back than that, when Machine Wars was out at the same time as Beast Wars.Mistaken_Table wrote:As far as I remember, there was always just 1 line of transformers out at a time. Then universe/classics happened.
Posted by Quantum Surge on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:02am CDT
Posted by Starbuck14 on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:05am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:17am CDT
Starbuck14 wrote:Wait, adults are complaining about the cyberverse line being made for children??? Really??
I could understand if that was the ONLY toy line produced. But as you point out, the "adult" options far outweigh the kids ones.
So to me, the complainers are either oblivious people who miss the entire point, or they are really egotistical.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:18am CDT
Well, it is the only toy line for the characters depicted in the show.-Kanrabat- wrote:Starbuck14 wrote:Wait, adults are complaining about the cyberverse line being made for children??? Really??
I could understand if that was the ONLY toy line produced.
Posted by william-james88 on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:28am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It goes further back than that, when Machine Wars was out at the same time as Beast Wars.Mistaken_Table wrote:As far as I remember, there was always just 1 line of transformers out at a time. Then universe/classics happened.
Mistaken Table was referring to mainline toys. Machine Wars was retailer exclusive.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well, it is the only toy line for the characters depicted in the show.-Kanrabat- wrote:Starbuck14 wrote:Wait, adults are complaining about the cyberverse line being made for children??? Really??
I could understand if that was the ONLY toy line produced.
That show us a "kid show" so it's irrelevant.
Plus, the DELUXES exist. There is no excuse.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 28th, 2021 @ 9:44am CDT
Every TF show with a toyline is a kid show. Always have been, even back in the advancely articulated days of the Beast Era.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, it is the only toy line for the characters depicted in the show.-Kanrabat- wrote:Starbuck14 wrote:Wait, adults are complaining about the cyberverse line being made for children??? Really??
I could understand if that was the ONLY toy line produced.
That show us a "kid show" so it's irrelevant.
Plus, the DELUXES exist. There is no excuse.
And the Deluxes are selective and limited in this character choices. Anyone who wants a normal figure of Shadow Striker with standard articulation is up the creek.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 28th, 2021 @ 10:04am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 28th, 2021 @ 10:09am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Regardless of any Cyberverse toy, Kingdom Cheetor is pretty mediocre in its own right.
That appears to be the consensus, even in the Kingdom thread, as I can't speak to it because I have no desire to own one.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2021 @ 10:21am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Regardless of any Cyberverse toy, Kingdom Cheetor is pretty mediocre in its own right.
That appears to be the consensus, even in the Kingdom thread, as I can't speak to it because I have no desire to own one.
I can't say K. Cheetor is "mediocre" but there's room for improvement. Play-wise, Cyber Cheetor looks definitely better.
Posted by Cyber Bishop on July 28th, 2021 @ 2:07pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:So to me, the complainers are either oblivious people who miss the entire point, or they are really egotistical.
I have heard some crap from locals and to me it sounds the latter. Remember it is a clown world and everyone is butt-hurt about anything and everything.
I am just glad that it is 2021 and there are still Transformers products out for us to buy.
Posted by Treetop Maximus on July 28th, 2021 @ 2:39pm CDT
When I was 4 years old I had Beast Wars B'Boom and I could get it between beast and robot just fine.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 28th, 2021 @ 5:57pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It goes further back than that, when Machine Wars was out at the same time as Beast Wars.Mistaken_Table wrote:As far as I remember, there was always just 1 line of transformers out at a time. Then universe/classics happened.
I only saw machine wars at K-B toys, was it exclusive or do I not remember things very well
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2021 @ 6:02pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It goes further back than that, when Machine Wars was out at the same time as Beast Wars.Mistaken_Table wrote:As far as I remember, there was always just 1 line of transformers out at a time. Then universe/classics happened.
I only saw machine wars at K-B toys, was it exclusive or do I not remember things very well
It was I believe, may be one of the reasons the line didn't do too well. It would have been interesting had it been more well recieved, and led to later waves, would they have been further repaints or would it have tied into Beast Wars We'll never know...
Posted by Emerje on July 30th, 2021 @ 1:26am CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:And I couldn't stand the Filmation MOTU cartoon. In 81 MOTU was aimed towards teens but in 83 the cartoon dropped it from teen to toddler. As a kid I loved the more mature realistic cartoons like Transformers, GI Joe, M.A.S.K., Robotech & vehicle Voltron.
All of this stuff was made for little kids under 10, including the 81 MOTU comics. Nobody made action figures and cartoons (for US TV) for teens and adults in the 80s. "More mature realistic cartoons".
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 30th, 2021 @ 5:18am CDT
Emerje wrote:Nemesis Reformatted wrote:And I couldn't stand the Filmation MOTU cartoon. In 81 MOTU was aimed towards teens but in 83 the cartoon dropped it from teen to toddler. As a kid I loved the more mature realistic cartoons like Transformers, GI Joe, M.A.S.K., Robotech & vehicle Voltron.
All of this stuff was made for little kids under 10, including the 81 MOTU comics. Nobody made action figures and cartoons (for US TV) for teens and adults in the 80s. "More mature realistic cartoons".
Emerje
Forgot to react to that because I facepalmed so hard, I knocked myself out.
As a young child in the 1980's, I never saw those show as "mature". At all. Because I've seen "mature". See, as a Québécois, our Saturday mornings at Radio Canada was filled with "cartoons" imported from France. France was really into anime hardcore so in Québec, we got so many anime by extension. The "toy commercials" cartoons were relegated to the other one French language channel out of 3. Those shows didn't last for long because Karens went to war against those and won.
Anyway, back to Radio Canada's anime. Those anime were filled with mature themes and they never shied to show actual DEATHS on screen. Goldorak (U.F.O Robo Grendizer), Albator (Captain Herlock), Le Petit Castor, Astro le Petit Robot (Astroboy), Demetan, Cat's Eye, and so on. Those shows were awesome and they made me a weeb decades before "weeb" was a term. Japan don't treat their children like idiots and it shown.
Then, after around 1987, Radio Canada ditch ALL anime and the Saturday mornings literally turned into the Disney Chanel. No "toy commercial" cartoons" either at the other chanel, and the Karens even killed the French dub of the WWF. At 12, I felt like a nostalgic old fart...
Speaking of old farts, kids these days are damn lucky. Because we were too poor to have Cable as a child, I was stuck with only 3 French channels. A 4th one appeared when I was 11 though. That new channel only shown old show at it's beginning so I watch a lot of Flintstones (dubbed in Québécois French). I didn't knew a single English word at the time so I never watched the 2 English channels we had. That 5 or 6 chanel total.
Kids these days have an infinity of options with a million chanel and the internet at their fingertips. So they are not stuck at watching subpart shows or shows they don't like.
These days, if kids want to watch Transformers, they can watch any shows at any time however they want, whenever they want.
Karens be damned.
Posted by o.supreme on July 30th, 2021 @ 9:45am CDT
While I do agree that all the toy-based animated series from the 80's were marketed towards younger children, I could see some of them at least being enjoyed by teens and even adults, even if they weren't the target audience.
I mean I know pop culture overall would like to place villains such as Megatron, Cobra Commander, Skeletor, and Mumm-Ra in the same villains old folks home. However, while they all had silly moments at times, I'd say Skeletor was by far the silliest. I remember my Dad complaining about how awfully silly he was, not so with some of the other villains.
The same could be said today. I've shown my kids a TON of older shows, but they have their own interests. I can enjoy some of the shows my kids watch. Others I just have to leave the room, because clearly, they aren't intended for me.
Also to be fair, the OP mentioned Robotech and Vehicle Voltron. Those shows had to be edited quite a bit to remove the more violent aspects of their original anime counterparts (Macross, Southern Cross, Mospeada) and for VV (Dairugger XV which IMHO is absolutely amazing and highly underrated). But with Robotech, I know the romance angle still came through quite a bit. But that is to be expected, even from an edited anime- a different culture that doesn't dumb down shows for kids as often.
Just as a brief example- Try watching the Dungeons and Dragons animated series vs He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (both premiered in 1983). Yes they are both for kids, but there is defintely a tonal difference.
Posted by TFfan1 on July 31st, 2021 @ 5:00pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 31st, 2021 @ 5:12pm CDT
TFfan1 wrote:Ah, reminds me of when I was a wee sprog with my Armada figures. I'm glad the target demographic enjoys the toys. As someone who grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I'll always be able to appreciate simple figures with fun gimmicks, although I do wish Hasbro would cut down on collector-aimed content and focused on the kids, I feel like it isn't fair they get the short end of the toy quality stick.
I wouldn't say the short end per se, ever compared them to other toys of the same age range?
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 31st, 2021 @ 7:27pm CDT
do they think kids nowadays are less capable of playing with more complicated toys?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 31st, 2021 @ 7:36pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:well g1 was also geared towards kids as was everything else in transformers up until playschools gobots and now rescue bots
do they think kids nowadays are less capable of playing with more complicated toys?
It's easy to think so, but I like to think it more as "more accessible" by lowering the difficulty bar. From One-Step to the Deluxes, and the option to "upgrade" to Generations, there's something for every difficulty and comfort level... like most of G1 did, really, not counting the My First Transformers range.
Speaking of Gobots...
Sabrina-Online #271: "He could just play with the packaging instead"
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 31st, 2021 @ 7:43pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:do they think kids nowadays are less capable of playing with more complicated toys?
Know what? I think so.
Fisher Price Little People were 3X smaller back then in the late 1970's early 1980's. The Tonka trucks were made out of steel. Transformers at the time were quite complex for a kid so the "Rescue bots" equivalent were Gobots. But even then, metal and tiny parts galore. I played with a mechanical robotic arm that you control with 2 joysticks. It was hard but fun.
Also, playing "dangerous" games outside at recess and out of school was a thing.
But in current year, even grown adults are treated (and act) like toddlers . A result for overprotecting our children since at least 3 generations.
Siiiiiigh.................
Posted by o.supreme on July 31st, 2021 @ 10:50pm CDT
Some 9 year olds might enjoy Cyberverse, and some might be into WFC, and some might be into SS.
Posted by william-james88 on August 1st, 2021 @ 6:45am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:well g1 was also geared towards kids as was everything else in transformers up until playschools gobots and now rescue bots
do they think kids nowadays are less capable of playing with more complicated toys?
Was all of G1 geared towards 3-5 year olds? I dont think so. With Cyberverse, you cover a younger audience and you can replicate the speed of transformation seen on screen with the one steps. Plus, G1 also had super simple toys too like the jumpstarters. Optimus prime and Bumblebee were ridiculously simple toys too. Cyberverse is bringing that spirit of easy transformations that some G1 toys had but standardising it per class and ensuring greater cartoon accuracy.
o.supreme wrote:I tend to agree. I mean I remember I was 9 when Jetfire came out in 1985, and my 11 year old friend got him. It was complicated, but not beyond our ability to enjoy.
The generations lines is 8 years old + these days and the toys are more complex than G1 Jetfire. So theres no indication that they are dumbing things down for kids of the ages you mention. They just have a wider variety of product for a bigger age range from birth to pre adolescence.
The cyberverse line isnt meant for 8 year olds or over.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 1st, 2021 @ 9:14am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 1st, 2021 @ 10:11am CDT
Also if Cyberverse isn't for 8 year olds who is it for? 6-7 that's a pretty small range considering Rescue Bots is 3-5.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 1st, 2021 @ 10:34am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I've not seen any WFC toy that is more complicated than the original Jetfire. That Macross Valkyrie design is pretty great from an engineering point of view. Only Masterpiece and 3P have I seen that are more complex.
Also if Cyberverse isn't for 8 year olds who is it for? 6-7 that's a pretty small range considering Rescue Bots is 3-5.
It has over lap with rescue bots.
Posted by william-james88 on August 1st, 2021 @ 12:30pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I've not seen any WFC toy that is more complicated than the original Jetfire. That Macross Valkyrie design is pretty great from an engineering point of view. Only Masterpiece and 3P have I seen that are more complex.
Also if Cyberverse isn't for 8 year olds who is it for? 6-7 that's a pretty small range considering Rescue Bots is 3-5.
5 is pretty old for rescue bots, 4 is borderline. They are ideal for 2-3. Cyberverse is 3-7, some classes work for younger kids, some for older. It has overlap with rescue bots. The boy in the video posted was 3.
And lots of generations toys (including the SS line) are more complicated than G1 Jetfire. Any Jetfire released in those lines was either as complex or more complex. Feel free to ask that question in either of those discussion threads for further discussion or confirmation.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 1st, 2021 @ 6:01pm CDT
Cheetor looks really good, I am very excited for him. He looks great! and a lot bulkier and more show accurate. Lovin' it.
Meteorfire is strangely fun, i still enjoy him, and the show did a good job of making me like him too.
Iaconus is not very good, but I am happy to have him. I am going to call my Kingdom ark bot Iaconus after this war titan.
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2021 @ 10:33pm CDT
In the US, things are starting really slow with the first items coming to shelves being the reviled scout class figures. Reports come from all across the US. They are all rereleases with nothing new, but they do include Ramjet who some liked since he does give the illusion of fully transforming from one mode to the next. More are bound to come, especially since they are appearing in Canada.
If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.
Posted by ScottyP on August 6th, 2021 @ 12:51pm CDT
Obviously this is all anecdotal and potentially localized, but I've been collecting for a long time and brick and mortar has never been this devoid of TF product. I don't blame the stores or even Hasbro, stuff is just clogged up.
Posted by Emerje on August 8th, 2021 @ 7:03am CDT
ScottyP wrote:The reality of how messed up supply chains are right now hit me when some local Targets did their late summer toy reset and didn't even have Cyberverse stuff to fill the space with. Not finding desirable stuff is typical, but usually there's at least plenty of kid product when these hit. Not this time.
Obviously this is all anecdotal and potentially localized, but I've been collecting for a long time and brick and mortar has never been this devoid of TF product. I don't blame the stores or even Hasbro, stuff is just clogged up.
It's been the same here, especially after both Walmart and Target clearanced out the 1 Step figures. All that's left is some peg warming Deluxe figures (mostly Megatron and Shockwave). I've also been surprised by how empty the Rescue Bot section is. Though one of my local Walmarts did restock a bunch of RB Optimus and Bumblebee figures (vehicles, not the current Dino stuff), but put them on the Cyberverse 1 Step pegs. Oops, let's see how long it takes for those to get moved, if ever.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 8th, 2021 @ 10:23pm CDT
Still for what they are, they are well worth the 13$CAN each toys.
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 9th, 2021 @ 12:05pm CDT
https://www.thetoyshop.com/action-toys- ... 4605_E3522
Seems okay for what it is. Flattest feet ever though?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 9th, 2021 @ 4:02pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:I'd not seen Jazz yet
https://www.thetoyshop.com/action-toys- ... 4605_E3522
Seems okay for what it is. Flattest feet ever though?
It's a re-shell of Prowl
Posted by william-james88 on August 11th, 2021 @ 5:01pm CDT
Enjoy the pics and the review along with this video showing the gimmick.
First impression: He's okay.
The Negatives: The primary auto-transform, which is his big selling feature, is on a hair-trigger. This made him a bit of a pain to transform into truck. Plus, the auto-transform still requires a bit of shoulder manipulation. Also, those legs are both immobile and can do the splits. Pretty crazy.
The Positives: Upper body was more flexible and articulated than I expected. His head sculpt is a gorgeous show accurate representation, and his head can pivot! I love his weight. He feels very solid. I can imagine 8-year old me going crazy over the light and sound clips (very short though). The sword and claws are a nice touch, although I'm not a fan of the chest armor. He sizes pretty well with my one large Cyberverse Megatron.
Overall: Good toy. Fun. Probably could have waited for him to go on sale for $45 or $40 though. For what he is, I'm super-glad I got him.
Posted by william-james88 on August 11th, 2021 @ 11:06pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Cyberverse line has always given us new and inventive ways to transform and play with our Transformers, the Roll and Change line is no different. Optimus Prime features lights and sounds as well as some snap-on Energon blue body armor. The included sword is a great weapon but is also used as a lock to the changing gimmick. While the price might be a bit high for most, the toy is a solid, beefy, fun figure.
If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.
Posted by william-james88 on August 12th, 2021 @ 2:10pm CDT
Enjoy!