1986 Transformers The Movie Soundtrack Reissue Pre-Order Available

For $50 it better be more than just a reissue.

47$ for a single disc record press is absolutely ridiculous. It should be around 30$ max, even with a colored vinyl. A 47$+ asking price is for pressings with at least 2 discs. This is insane.

50 bucks ? What kind of crack are they smoking ? You could probably find the vintage record in a thrift store for a dollar. Or more likely in a vinyl store for under 20 bucks. I used to DJ. Even the rarest records could be bought for under 20 bucks once CD turntables were invented by Numark.

anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Rated X wrote:50 bucks ? What kind of crack are they smoking ? You could probably find the vintage record in a thrift store for a dollar. Or more likely in a vinyl store for under 20 bucks. I used to DJ. Even the rarest records could be bought for under 20 bucks once CD turntables were invented by Numark.

Vinyl collector they buy it wouldnt think twice for someone like us who buys stuff like this http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11788&mode=retail same person will say samething 80. For toy to keep in box not to be taken out or display on shelf to collect dust depends on person

shajaki wrote:anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Based on the Amazon.com order page, there's nothing that justifies this price point. I'm not angry about it, and I'm just not buying it.

Records and toys are different in my mind. I'll happily spend up to $15 on an LP, maybe even $20 depending on what I'm buying and where. $50 doesn't even make sense. I've never seen a price tag that high for something brand new and for something not being sold in secondary markets like eBay.

It Is Him wrote:

shajaki wrote:anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Based on the Amazon.com order page, there's nothing that justifies this price point. I'm not angry about it, and I'm just not buying it.

Records and toys are different in my mind. I'll happily spend up to $15 on an LP, maybe even $20 depending on what I'm buying and where. $50 doesn't even make sense. I've never seen a price tag that high for something brand new and for something not being sold in secondary markets like eBay.

Granted it's been ages since I've dealt with the music market but back when I was building up my Metallica music library, I wouldn't have (and often didn't) think twice about dropping that kind of change down for vinyl and that was back when most of you 'bots still had training wheels. If it wasn't for the fact that I still have my cassette and original CD of this soundtrack, I'd probably drop the 50 creds for the vinyl now but I just don't feel the need to have a version I can't even listen to.
Y'all should know better by now than to scoff at the prices of various collectibles. Audiophiles are even fussier and hungrier creatures than those folks dependent on their "plastic crack" addictions and the markets operate on two entirely different wavelengths.

Kind of a hefty pricetag. That Deathconsciousness reissue isn't even $30.

dragons wrote:

Rated X wrote:50 bucks ? What kind of crack are they smoking ? You could probably find the vintage record in a thrift store for a dollar. Or more likely in a vinyl store for under 20 bucks. I used to DJ. Even the rarest records could be bought for under 20 bucks once CD turntables were invented by Numark.

Vinyl collector they buy it wouldnt think twice for someone like us who buys stuff like this http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11788&mode=retail same person will say samething 80. For toy to keep in box not to be taken out or display on shelf to collect dust depends on person

I collect vintage hip hop and old school vinyl from the 70's and 80's. I am well aware of the collector's value of LP's. The price is unacceptable and a total joke. This is not a vintage Elvis or Beatles LP. I would place the value of the original vintage 1986 LP at around $10-15 in any used vinyl shop. Maybe $20-25 would be the retail "gotta have it" price. Theres a few of them on e-bay for over $40. But they are listed "buy it now" so that means nobody agrees with the sellers appraisal.

CrankyOldTruck wrote:

It Is Him wrote:

shajaki wrote:anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Based on the Amazon.com order page, there's nothing that justifies this price point. I'm not angry about it, and I'm just not buying it.

Records and toys are different in my mind. I'll happily spend up to $15 on an LP, maybe even $20 depending on what I'm buying and where. $50 doesn't even make sense. I've never seen a price tag that high for something brand new and for something not being sold in secondary markets like eBay.

Granted it's been ages since I've dealt with the music market but back when I was building up my Metallica music library, I wouldn't have (and often didn't) think twice about dropping that kind of change down for vinyl and that was back when most of you 'bots still had training wheels. If it wasn't for the fact that I still have my cassette and original CD of this soundtrack, I'd probably drop the 50 creds for the vinyl now but I just don't feel the need to have a version I can't even listen to.
Y'all should know better by now than to scoff at the prices of various collectibles. Audiophiles are even fussier and hungrier creatures than those folks dependent on their "plastic crack" addictions and the markets operate on two entirely different wavelengths.

You missed the point entirely. You're comparing a $50 brand new LP to records found in a secondary market, which is not dictated by input costs or marketing costs.

X-Rated is right that this price point doesn't make sense.

If you go to CCmusic.com it is $32.63 with coupon code Nov1420

Hmm...$50 for an archaic (and in my opinion, extremely obsolete) format, or the price of $5 (or free if you have an Amazon Prime membership, as I do) for MP3.





And the TL,DR part about the whole vinyl thing from my perspective based on my admittedly limited experience with vinyl (I've listened to records plenty of times, even on 'high-end' stereo equipment, but I've never owned my own record player):

That 'warm' sound (a suspiciously frequently used term to describe the sound of vinyl by its proponents) is not worth 10X the price in my opinion. I've heard live bands, even bands recording in studios but and while I have heard some digital representations (CDs, lossless WMAs, MP3s, ATRAC3s etc.) that sounded pretty close to live, never have I heard a record player replicate anything close. It does give it a different quality to the sound, and I'm sure that many enjoy that quality, but in my opinion it's no closer to the real thing than a decent quality digital recording (isn't most music recorded directly to digital these days anyway? Though of course that probably wasn't the case back in the mid-80's when this was recorded). Reel-to-reel is supposed to be the 'real deal' when it comes to audio accuracy anyway, not vinyl. Besides, I think a decent set of speakers and well adjusted equalizer will have a far greater impact on sound quality than the medium used for playback. I mean naturally the bitrate needs to be decent, otherwise it can have that 'tinny' sound to it, but other than that there should be little to no impact unless there's some information I'm unaware of such as some sort of limitation of digital recordings and playback media with regards to the ranges/frequencies/whatever that they're capable of recording/playing back/replicating, but I've never heard of any such limitations; again, especially nowadays since most retail music is recorded digitally in the first place, which would make an analogue conversion a step down, while a high quality (e.g. 'lossless') digital copy would theoretically be flawless/the closest you could possibly get to the source.

I'm no audiophile, but the combination of being a special edition import, limited to only 1000 numbered copies, and being on clear blue vinyl sounds like a $50 high end collectable rather than a second hand find to me.

Emerje

New and reissued records can actually be pretty pricey. If you go into Guitar Center, Hot Topic or any store that sells reissued records now a days, unfortunately that is around the price you will pay (in stores of course). I am sure eventually you will be able to find it cheaper online but that's the way things are going, everything is getting more and more expensive.

ScottyP wrote:

xRotorstormx wrote:Vinyl records sound SO much better than CDs or cassettes IMO. The sound quality is a lot deeper and almost larger than life when cranking some top notch produced albums.

I have a huge collection of 80's vinyl but never got into getting newer albums on vinyl but this is a must have!

I need you to recommend me a record player. Got rid of my DJ turntables years ago and don't have a way to play vinyl at all since then.

I used to use my parents old record player. Can't remember what it was called...actually that reminds me, I should ask them and see if they still have it

Emerje wrote:I'm no audiophile, but the combination of being a special edition import, limited to only 1000 numbered copies, and being on clear blue vinyl sounds like a $50 high end collectable rather than a second hand find to me.

Emerje

shajaki wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm no audiophile, but the combination of being a special edition import, limited to only 1000 numbered copies, and being on clear blue vinyl sounds like a $50 high end collectable rather than a second hand find to me.

Emerje

Where is this information in the listing that its's limited to 1000, and is a japanese import? I didnt see that. Color shouldn't affect pricing, though.

It Is Him wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm no audiophile, but the combination of being a special edition import, limited to only 1000 numbered copies, and being on clear blue vinyl sounds like a $50 high end collectable rather than a second hand find to me.

Emerje

Where is this information in the listing that its's limited to 1000, and is a japanese import? I didnt see that. Color shouldn't affect pricing, though.

Check the very beginning of this thread. Also, read closely: only the first 1,000 pressings will be on clear blue vinyl.

Meh...

Using blue dye in the plastic when pressing a record doesnt cost the record company any more than it costs takara to get the colors right after hasbro slaughters them...

And limiting a pressing to 1000 copies is the politically correct way of saying theyre scared to print more because they might get stuck with them. We see this all the time with "limited" 3rd party repaints that are too niche. This vinyl re-release is very niche...

I have collected vinyl on and off since I was a teenager. I never felt that "warm" ambience that vinyl enthusiasts claim to hear. All I hear is a bunch of popping in the background like when you pour a can of soda. The reason I got into vinyl is because in the DJ world there are so many promotional remixes that are never made available to the public on CD. Thats common with synthesized music. I do know its not the same concept in the world of live music such as rock bands. People who enjoy live music seem to hear things differently. Since I dont listen to rock or other forms of live music, ill probably never get it or hear what they hear.

Either way, the price of this reissue is total BS and doesnt reflect the current value of LPs in the collectors market.