Additional In-Hand Images: Transformers Legends LG02 Optimus Primal
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Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on October 26th, 2014 @ 5:10pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 26th, 2014 @ 5:11pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on October 26th, 2014 @ 5:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 26th, 2014 @ 5:24pm CDT
They're in the second Rattrap gallery.shajaki wrote:the rattrap gallery and some highlights! but i couldnt find any comparisons with hasbros
Posted by Cobotron on October 26th, 2014 @ 5:27pm CDT
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Unfortunately, no battle mask gimmick.
Ya I never liked the mouth hole, even in the show, and the weird demon mask thing was so strange and cool. Mine fell off and was never heard from again.
I was hoping this release would be the original so I could get a fresh one with the mask. My old one is getting a bit rickety, due to the fact that I love him so.
I get why they're releasing this one though, show accurate and all.
Just glad folks will have the chance to get him if they haven't all ready.
He is one bot everyone should have in their stash.
Posted by shajaki on October 26th, 2014 @ 5:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 26th, 2014 @ 6:21pm CDT
Only in the eyes and mouth. The rest of him looks more like he's been yellowed.shajaki wrote:oh man. legends rattrap is full of win.
Hasbro's copper is a bit closer to the cartoon colors than Takara's yellow tan.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 26th, 2014 @ 6:51pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 26th, 2014 @ 6:55pm CDT
Behold! The perfect Rattrap:-Kanrabat- wrote:Nothing that some paint, a tiny brush, and a steady hand can't fix!
Posted by Lockdownhunter on October 26th, 2014 @ 11:58pm CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on October 27th, 2014 @ 2:00am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 27th, 2014 @ 4:57am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Ugh. Could we get a new mold, please? The 10th anniversary one didn't cut it, either. A brand new, freshly designed mold would be really nice right about now.
You know, this is impossible, right? Beast wars figures can't be remade in a superior way using modern engeneering. Just imagine if they'd remade, let's say, Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator. How would they manage that?
Posted by Jerseid on October 27th, 2014 @ 11:43am CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 27th, 2014 @ 12:12pm CDT
Jerseid wrote:You know I'm divide on the separate mold thing because optimus primal was a pretty great troy and he stands out even today. But I also believe that Hasbro and Takara do a half assed job appealing to collectors and enthusiast. Maybe a thrid Party will come along and honor him the right way.
And then charge $200 for it!
Posted by Trikeboy on October 28th, 2014 @ 6:38am CDT
Posted by megatronus on October 28th, 2014 @ 6:58am CDT
Trikeboy wrote:I'll definitely be going the Takara Tomy route for the ladies. They look so much better.
I think Takara's Windblade is hands down better than Hasbro's, but I'm still debating on which version of Arceee & Chromia is better... I need to wait to have both versions in hand before deciding.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 28th, 2014 @ 8:56am CDT
I'm already set on going Takara for Arcee and Windblade (even though I've had Hasbro Windblade coming to me from an earlier BBTS purchase), but I'm not certain about Chromia yet. On the one hand, Takara's Chromia looks a lot nicer, but on the other hand, Hasbro's Chromia is more comic-accurate.megatronus wrote:Trikeboy wrote:I'll definitely be going the Takara Tomy route for the ladies. They look so much better.
I think Takara's Windblade is hands down better than Hasbro's, but I'm still debating on which version of Arceee & Chromia is better... I need to wait to have both versions in hand before deciding.
Posted by a Cobra Viper on October 28th, 2014 @ 12:44pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on October 29th, 2014 @ 2:42am CDT
More.Arcee is the first female Transformers character who was part of a main cast - in Japan she's known for her active role in the “2010” series. The focus of her character design was on the feminine appearance, and was too difficult to recreate as a toy with the technology available at that time. There was a plan of producing her as a Headmaster, but that did not materialize either. Mr. Kobayashi, who is responsible for this product took extra care to perfectly realize the screen accurate transformation process and proportions. Mr. Oshima corroborated from the early planning stage. They did not compromise on any details on her feminine style.
(An interview with Mr. Kobayashi will be featured in the next issue.)
Posted by fenrir72 on October 29th, 2014 @ 5:00am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:TFW2005's SydneyY translated a couple of pages from the latest Figure King magazine. Arcee was designed by Hironori Kobayashi (MP-11, MP-22, Evasion Mode Prime, etc.)More.Arcee is the first female Transformers character who was part of a main cast - in Japan she's known for her active role in the “2010” series. The focus of her character design was on the feminine appearance, and was too difficult to recreate as a toy with the technology available at that time. There was a plan of producing her as a Headmaster, but that did not materialize either. Mr. Kobayashi, who is responsible for this product took extra care to perfectly realize the screen accurate transformation process and proportions. Mr. Oshima corroborated from the early planning stage. They did not compromise on any details on her feminine style.
(An interview with Mr. Kobayashi will be featured in the next issue.)
Thanks Cyberpath! And to those arm chair know it alls fyi Kobayahi was the winner of the kit bash contest in the Japanese version of Botcon......the Legendary Arcee herself. from there on after, Kobayashi has risen to his place of stature in Takara (Mr. Binaltech to Mr. MP). Nice to hear the belly achers complain about Arcee but her design comes from the "One" himself!
Btw, posted the content already. Here:
figure-king-201-scans-armor-knight-optimus-prime-black-knight-dinobots-legends-arcee-chrmia-win-t102141.php#p1616104
Posted by Wh33l Jck on October 29th, 2014 @ 10:09am CDT
The more G1 accurate deco swayed me.
Posted by Madeus Prime on October 29th, 2014 @ 10:46am CDT
Arcee was designed by Hironori Kobayashi (of Masterpiece fame) and Yuki Oshima (of Kiss Players fame)
Oh dear god!
Posted by Sabrblade on October 29th, 2014 @ 12:32pm CDT
He also did the artwork for the two Metrowars manga stories, the Shattered Glass text story "Do Over", the bio artwork for Shattered Glass Ricochet, and the Revoltech manga.Madeus Prime wrote:Arcee was designed by Hironori Kobayashi (of Masterpiece fame) and Yuki Oshima (of Kiss Players fame)
Oh dear god!
Posted by RotorstormNZ on October 29th, 2014 @ 5:39pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 29th, 2014 @ 5:47pm CDT
RotorstormNZ wrote:Yyyyyyeah, if I were the one writing the article I'd have gone out of my NOT to mention KP!
I'm quite surprised nobody will be looking at Arcee in disgust with that revelation
Posted by fenrir72 on October 29th, 2014 @ 5:59pm CDT
RotorstormNZ wrote:Yyyyyyeah, if I were the one writing the article I'd have gone out of my NOT to mention KP!
As everyone has the right to say so, Yuki is one fine mech artist. He knows how make kawaii out of kawaii. His art style may lean on the lolli style for humans but in mech design, he stands out together with Ban Magami.
Posted by Madeus Prime on October 29th, 2014 @ 6:01pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:He also did the artwork for the two Metrowars manga stories, the Shattered Glass text story "Do Over", the bio artwork for Shattered Glass Ricochet, and the Revoltech manga.Madeus Prime wrote:Arcee was designed by Hironori Kobayashi (of Masterpiece fame) and Yuki Oshima (of Kiss Players fame)
Oh dear god!
Nonononono! Stop saying these things!!
Posted by Sabrblade on October 29th, 2014 @ 6:10pm CDT
His artwork's pretty cool when it's not skeevy:Madeus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He also did the artwork for the two Metrowars manga stories, the Shattered Glass text story "Do Over", the bio artwork for Shattered Glass Ricochet, and the Revoltech manga.Madeus Prime wrote:Arcee was designed by Hironori Kobayashi (of Masterpiece fame) and Yuki Oshima (of Kiss Players fame)
Oh dear god!
Nonononono! Stop saying these things!!
Posted by fenrir72 on October 30th, 2014 @ 5:32pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:His artwork's pretty cool when it's not skeevy:Madeus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He also did the artwork for the two Metrowars manga stories, the Shattered Glass text story "Do Over", the bio artwork for Shattered Glass Ricochet, and the Revoltech manga.Madeus Prime wrote:Arcee was designed by Hironori Kobayashi (of Masterpiece fame) and Yuki Oshima (of Kiss Players fame)
Oh dear god!
Nonononono! Stop saying these things!!
That's showing them Sabr!People are SO fixated to KISSPlayers that one might start suspecting they really loved it in private.
Posted by fenrir72 on October 30th, 2014 @ 5:37pm CDT
RotorstormNZ wrote:Yyyyyyeah, if I were the one writing the article I'd have gone out of my NOT to mention KP!
Like it or not KISSPlayers is part of the Japanese continuity. Take it or leave it! Purposely excising an article IS a form of censorship which we ALL should detest! Aren't we against puritanical censorship by the "conservatives"?
Posted by Sabrblade on October 30th, 2014 @ 5:39pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 30th, 2014 @ 5:55pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on October 30th, 2014 @ 7:49pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:So then Is it wrong I've never had a problem with kiss players? It's not like I liked it, my reaction's just been "oh that's a thing". I genuinely don't understand the pearl clutching/think of the children reaction to it. I mean it's skeevy sure, but it's not like it can hurt anyone, it's toys and drawing with words next to them.
It means your are more open minded than others. Yuki's art on how he depicts female is nothing new in the land of the rising sun. Heck, they are more than willing to push it to just within the boundaries of PG to R. If the "critics" just stopped and read more to the story then they'll realize in had a lot of good merits to the retcon.
Btw, try searching for the movie posters of the 1950 sci fi B movies and you'll see how T and A things were back then.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 30th, 2014 @ 8:01pm CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 30th, 2014 @ 8:22pm CDT
ANYHOW! Kiss players isn't related to this topic! So let's drop it shall we?
Posted by fenrir72 on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:24am CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Depictions of characters who appear under aged, in sexual positions, are illegal in Canada. Dunno what the law is in the US. So Japan can keep this all they want.
ANYHOW! Kiss players isn't related to this topic! So let's drop it shall we?
It became related because Yuki was also part of Arcee's design team. People are making a mountain out of a molehill out of that. Hence I needed to point out together with Sabr that aside from the KISSPlayer work by Yuki, he is also an excellent Mech Designer and it shows.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:46am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Depictions of characters who appear under aged, in sexual positions, are illegal in Canada. Dunno what the law is in the US. So Japan can keep this all they want.
ANYHOW! Kiss players isn't related to this topic! So let's drop it shall we?
It became related because Yuki was also part of Arcee's design team. People are making a mountain out of a molehill out of that. Hence I needed to point out together with Sabr that aside from the KISSPlayer work by Yuki, he is also an excellent Mech Designer and it shows.
Ah yes, that. A good job he did of it too, with whatever input was his (which I sort of suspect to be mostly the facial design).
Posted by Autobot032 on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:51am CDT
Here are our galleries of the Beast Wars Reborn Optimus Primal (upon which this release is based) and Generations Rattrap.
And now, without any further ado, the video reviews:
LG01 Rattle
LG02 Optimus Primal
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Posted by megatronus on October 31st, 2014 @ 9:22am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 31st, 2014 @ 10:35am CDT
I'm so sorry to hear that.megatronus wrote:I just picked up Universe Cheetor for the occasion.
Posted by TheVenocWarlord on October 31st, 2014 @ 10:46am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'm so sorry to hear that.megatronus wrote:I just picked up Universe Cheetor for the occasion.
Yep. I'm a big Cheetor fan, got most of the molds so far, but the Universe Cheetor robot mode is bad. The cheetah mode is good, which is the main reason I still have him. I really really wish they make a better Generations Cheetor!
EDIT: Same exact thing with Universe Dinobot. Make a better Generations Dinobot please!
Posted by megatronus on October 31st, 2014 @ 11:59am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'm so sorry to hear that.megatronus wrote:I just picked up Universe Cheetor for the occasion.
Is he that awful? I didn't pay very much.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:04pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm so sorry to hear that.megatronus wrote:I just picked up Universe Cheetor for the occasion.
Is he that awful? I didn't pay very much.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm so sorry to hear that.megatronus wrote:I just picked up Universe Cheetor for the occasion.
Is he that awful? I didn't pay very much.
Oh dear, somebody kill it!
Posted by shajaki on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:21pm CDT
anyone else think its strange how cheetor here is a reimagining, while all other generations BW figures were updated representations?
Posted by Sabrblade on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:28pm CDT
To be fair, Cheetor was a Universe figure while Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator are Generations figures. Similar but still separate lines operating under similar but still different mindsets.shajaki wrote:anyone else think its strange how cheetor here is a reimagining, while all other generations BW figures were updated representations?
Posted by KirbyForce1 on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:36pm CDT
Posted by TheVenocWarlord on October 31st, 2014 @ 12:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:To be fair, Cheetor was a Universe figure while Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator are Generations figures. Similar but still separate lines operating under similar but still different mindsets.shajaki wrote:anyone else think its strange how cheetor here is a reimagining, while all other generations BW figures were updated representations?
Yeah, there's about a 5 year gap between the lines.
Posted by shajaki on October 31st, 2014 @ 1:10pm CDT
ahh. i see your universe/generations rebuttal, and raise you a universe dinobot. hes 99% faithful and released alongside cheetor.TheVenocWarlord wrote:Yeah, there's about a 5 year gap between the lines.Sabrblade wrote:To be fair, Cheetor was a Universe figure while Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator are Generations figures. Similar but still separate lines operating under similar but still different mindsets.shajaki wrote:anyone else think its strange how cheetor here is a reimagining, while all other generations BW figures were updated representations?
Posted by Sabrblade on October 31st, 2014 @ 1:13pm CDT
Not his deco.shajaki wrote:ahh. i see your universe/generations rebuttal, and raise you a universe dinobot. hes 99% faithful and released alongside cheetor.TheVenocWarlord wrote:Yeah, there's about a 5 year gap between the lines.Sabrblade wrote:To be fair, Cheetor was a Universe figure while Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator are Generations figures. Similar but still separate lines operating under similar but still different mindsets.shajaki wrote:anyone else think its strange how cheetor here is a reimagining, while all other generations BW figures were updated representations?
Plus since he came after Cheetor, he might have been an example of a lesson learned from their making Cheetor.