Backwards Compatibility with Prime Wars Confirmed for WFC Siege Omega Supreme and Jetfire

william-james88 wrote:Let us know if any of this info makes you happy and if you feel Hasbro is taking things up a notch with their Transformers toys.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Let us know if any of this info makes you happy and if you feel Hasbro is taking things up a notch with their Transformers toys.

So I'll take this opportunity to give Hasbro some much do appreciation and respect. Well Done. I know I've been critical, and I'll continue to call out things I feel are glaring omissions and missteps, but I'll try to do better to give props when do. This is about the best outcome one could imagine. I fully intended to make Siege Omega Supreme fit within my giant city network, prior to this announcement, but this just makes it all the more satisfactory. Also I fully intended on getting Jetfire, since I never got the T30 one, and this one is actually (seemingly) better...The TM/PM BWC wasn't necessary, but is certainly welcome. These little things definitely do push the RIGHT kind of buttons with and old fuddy-duddy like myself.

Randomhero wrote:The biggest takeaway I took from this is...unicron.com is still around? That was the first transformers site I discovered back 97

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I feel like all the threads are fragmenting all over the place with the NYTF coverage... but has anyone actually *seen* pre-orders for Brunt/Reflector/Refractor? I can't seem to spot any if there are.... not on Amazon, BBTS, EntertainmentEarth, TFSource… etc... and it's driving me nuts.

No, there are some serious gaps in the pre-orders for both Siege and Studio Series. For Siege, no sign of pre-orders for Brunt, Refractor and presuming Barricade in wave 4, and no sign of the micromasters at all past wave 2. For Studio Series, the first 3 constructions are missing from pre-orders, while later numbers in the series do have pre-orders.

I'm also seriously wondering whether the rumored Leader Astrotrain was some bad info. It is weird that we heard absolutely nothing about him. The rumor was from something found on Walmarts site, right? Isn't Walmart also going to have the G1 re-release for Astrotrain? Could that have been the mix-up?

Emerje wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I feel like all the threads are fragmenting all over the place with the NYTF coverage... but has anyone actually *seen* pre-orders for Brunt/Reflector/Refractor? I can't seem to spot any if there are.... not on Amazon, BBTS, EntertainmentEarth, TFSource… etc... and it's driving me nuts.

No, there are some serious gaps in the pre-orders for both Siege and Studio Series. For Siege, no sign of pre-orders for Brunt, Refractor and presuming Barricade in wave 4, and no sign of the micromasters at all past wave 2. For Studio Series, the first 3 constructions are missing from pre-orders, while later numbers in the series do have pre-orders.

Basically Hasbro jumped the gun in the excitement of all the new "announcements" and put wave 4 up (minus one secret figure, likely Barricade) ahead of wave 3. Although as of yesterday Entertainment Earth was taking orders for wave 3 Deluxe cases, but they're no longer listed.

I'm also seriously wondering whether the rumored Leader Astrotrain was some bad info. It is weird that we heard absolutely nothing about him. The rumor was from something found on Walmarts site, right? Isn't Walmart also going to have the G1 re-release for Astrotrain? Could that have been the mix-up?

It was found in Walmart computers, but the codes matched other Siege Leaders. If it's real it wont be released until the end of the year so they're just holding it and Barricade for later, probably SDCC.

Reissue Astrotrain isn't coming until 2020 and we only just had the poll so I doubt it's in their computers yet.

Emerje

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I feel like all the threads are fragmenting all over the place with the NYTF coverage... but has anyone actually *seen* pre-orders for Brunt/Reflector/Refractor? I can't seem to spot any if there are.... not on Amazon, BBTS, EntertainmentEarth, TFSource… etc... and it's driving me nuts.

No, there are some serious gaps in the pre-orders for both Siege and Studio Series. For Siege, no sign of pre-orders for Brunt, Refractor and presuming Barricade in wave 4, and no sign of the micromasters at all past wave 2. For Studio Series, the first 3 constructions are missing from pre-orders, while later numbers in the series do have pre-orders.

Basically Hasbro jumped the gun in the excitement of all the new "announcements" and put wave 4 up (minus one secret figure, likely Barricade) ahead of wave 3. Although as of yesterday Entertainment Earth was taking orders for wave 3 Deluxe cases, but they're no longer listed.

I'm also seriously wondering whether the rumored Leader Astrotrain was some bad info. It is weird that we heard absolutely nothing about him. The rumor was from something found on Walmarts site, right? Isn't Walmart also going to have the G1 re-release for Astrotrain? Could that have been the mix-up?

It was found in Walmart computers, but the codes matched other Siege Leaders. If it's real it wont be released until the end of the year so they're just holding it and Barricade for later, probably SDCC.

Reissue Astrotrain isn't coming until 2020 and we only just had the poll so I doubt it's in their computers yet.

Emerje

Perhaps wave 4 is pioneering the individual figure ordering system?

william-james88 wrote:Jetfire also has backwards compatibility but with Prime Masters and Titan Masters. Both of those smaller kinds of bots can sit in Jetfire's cockpit.

These are just fun Easter Egg type features that will not be documented since they are meant as a bonus to fans who already have figures from prevous lines. If you don't have those previously released figures, don't worry there is a lot to enjoy from these fgures which each have their own special features.

william-james88 wrote:Let us know if any of this info makes you happy and if you feel Hasbro is taking things up a notch with their Transformers toys.

Jtprime17 wrote:New Apeface Listing!

http://www.cmdstore.ca/transformers-sie ... eface.html

also Astrotrain Again.
http://www.cmdstore.ca/transformers-sie ... eface.html

Cyberpath wrote:Someone dropped their tape-recorder.

More in-hand pix of SIEGE Soundwave & Starscream --

http://snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-6989.html

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Jtprime17 wrote:My guess he's in a regular retail assortment. Southernhobby put up preorders for a wave 4 and 5 case assortment of voyagers around the same time they put astrotrain up, but they quickly took the listings down.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Someone dropped their tape-recorder.

More in-hand pix of SIEGE Soundwave & Starscream --

http://snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-6989.html

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The first time I saw this yesterday, tape mode wasn't bad, but it wasn't great since the legs didn't seem to sit flush with the body to make a decent tape deck. Now, it looks great, because the legs look like they can sit flush, so that's awesome. A triple changing Soundwave is superior

Nathaniel Prime wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Someone dropped their tape-recorder.

More in-hand pix of SIEGE Soundwave & Starscream --

http://snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-6989.html

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The first time I saw this yesterday, tape mode wasn't bad, but it wasn't great since the legs didn't seem to sit flush with the body to make a decent tape deck. Now, it looks great, because the legs look like they can sit flush, so that's awesome. A triple changing Soundwave is superior

william-james88 wrote:It is unknown if this was intentional or not form Hasbro.

william-james88 wrote:

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Anyone else notice the nod to Prime 'Screamer here with the heels?

I do like the idea of extra support around the turbine, and the little visual reference to my favorite variation of Starscream.

william-james88 wrote:

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:Anyone else notice the nod to Prime 'Screamer here with the heels?

I do like the idea of extra support around the turbine, and the little visual reference to my favorite variation of Starscream.

That reffers to the MP starscream which predates Prime Starscream

Carnivius_Prime wrote:something about Starscream looks like he's kinda melted or made of cake or something. I dunno how to explain it. [snip]

Soundwave-Superior wrote:It looks like Soundwave's arms were pulled off to achieve that "boombox" mode - they have no joint that would allow them to fold back and leave room for the legs.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Soundwave is giving some serious side-eye.

Getting back to the newly leaked Apeface listing and a possible Snapdragon to follow, how do we think Hasbro is handling the Horrorcons this time around? Will they be completely compatible with the Titans Return system of play? If so, it's hard to imagine the Headmaster units would retain their original G1 gimmick of forming both the robot mode head and the beast mode head. I assume that if TR backwards compatibility is important, Spasma and Krunk will only form the robot mode heads. Which route would you rather they take, or are there other ideas on how to either compromise on these gimmicks or alternatively to have it all?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Getting back to the newly leaked Apeface listing and a possible Snapdragon to follow, how do we think Hasbro is handling the Horrorcons this time around? Will they be completely compatible with the Titans Return system of play? If so, it's hard to imagine the Headmaster units would retain their original G1 gimmick of forming both the robot mode head and the beast mode head. I assume that if TR backwards compatibility is important, Spasma and Krunk will only form the robot mode heads. Which route would you rather they take, or are there other ideas on how to either compromise on these gimmicks or alternatively to have it all?

Personally, I feel like it might not be backwards compatible to Titans Return, but maybe back to Thrilling 30 Brainstorm. Just for the head to look normal sized. But, considering this line is about returning to the original gimmicks, I'd be surprised if they weren't pulling double duty, and backwards compatible

carytheone wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Personally, I feel like it might not be backwards compatible to Titans Return, but maybe back to Thrilling 30 Brainstorm. Just for the head to look normal sized. But, considering this line is about returning to the original gimmicks, I'd be surprised if they weren't pulling double duty, and backwards compatible

I doubt they will ever go back to the T30 BS headmaster size (one off size figure) and be much more likely to stick with TR titanmasters (Jetfire is already compatible). My guess is maybe the beast modes heads would have a helmet type gimmick like the TR leaders did. So the new head/titan masters would form the robot head and plug into a beast helmet or mask type scenario.

Zeedust wrote:...Still waiting for a pic of lamppost mode.

carytheone wrote:I forget, what size class is the rumored Apeface? And more importantly, what is the preferred/desired size class?

For me I'd rather deluxe so they can chill with the other monster type bots from TR and PotP.

Soundwave-Superior wrote:

Zeedust wrote:...Still waiting for a pic of lamppost mode.

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:I forget, what size class is the rumored Apeface? And more importantly, what is the preferred/desired size class?

Voyager. But traditionally, I think they were a tad bigger than the other HMs.

carytheone wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:I forget, what size class is the rumored Apeface? And more importantly, what is the preferred/desired size class?

Voyager. But traditionally, I think they were a tad bigger than the other HMs.

Yeah, I think you're right about the original size of the toys. So do "we" have a conservatist view point on their proper size as bigger than the TR headmasters (proper)?