BotCon 2015 Fiction - Ask Vector Prime

Holy crap its back!!!

Will anyone ask him if there will be any more shattered glass serieses and if we will be getting a nexus prime figure from the cw molds ps no idea what this is but 8t sounds like a funny idea XD

I always love seeing what he will say! I forgot all about this

Um o can't use the links also THERES A SG UNICRON?

Starsaber468 wrote:Um o can't use the links also THERES A SG UNICRON?

Where did you get SG Unicron from?



There is nothing that says anything about an SG Unicron.

It was part of different forum then it accidently was posted to this because the forum was botcon fiction forum

So i found this kmage and somereaskn little liokaisers concept art doesn't deserve a article

So i found this kmage and somereaskn little liokaisers concept art doesn't deserve a article

Sabrblade wrote:

MaverickPrime wrote:Is the black one Rook? That head looks more like Cw Skydive

Rook was a redeco of G1 Windcharger.

I updated your post for our gallery instead.

Seibertron are u going to post a article about the liokaiser concept art

Starsaber468 wrote:Seibertron are u going to post a article about the liokaiser concept art

What Liokaiser concept art?

Will Vector Prime once again declare Alignment canon...only for the human behind him to wuss out on TFwiki?

No, seriously, I love all of Jim Sorenson's work, and I hope Hasbro won't use this opportunity to undo any of it. Just making one teeny exception for a story written without their permission over a decade ago to provide yet another official link between Marvel continuity and Beast Wars won't lead to a slippery slope. Not even if it leads to an official reprint. Pleeeeeease?

(Is there still a PDF of Alignment floating around out there somewhere? I only know of the one that was stored on the late, great, Megaupload)

Oh, maybe VP will give us an in-continuity (cuz we know what happened in the real world) explanation of what destroyed the Dreamwave universes! Or does that already exist?

Concept art of likkaiser its on 9ne my comments actually my only comments with a picture on it innmatger of a fact

datguy86 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

datguy86 wrote:Makes sense to up the back cover stuff to three since David Willis is apparently no longer doing Recordicons.

He did Recordicons last issue, #62.

Was there some announcement that Recordicons would be ending soon?

Also, this isn't back cover stuff. This is like the Tornado Facebook from last year that contained text stories leading up to that year's BotCon comic. These three will likely do the same for this year's comic.

From his twitter account on May 9th: https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/597086311250526209

And now it's official. He's done with TFCC. http://www.shortpacked.com/blog.php?postid=787

I remember doing the Ask Vector Prime stuff when I was a little kid just getting into Transformers during the Cybertron era. I asked Vector Prime something about whether he'd ever fought Brushguard or some crap like that. I didn't get a reply. I vowed to never ask Vector Prime again.

Look at that smug look on his face in that picture. Thinks he's so important. Answer my question you jackass!

PrymeStriker wrote:I remember doing the Ask Vector Prime stuff when I was a little kid just getting into Transformers during the Cybertron era. I asked Vector Prime something about whether he'd ever fought Brushguard or some crap like that. I didn't get a reply. I vowed to never ask Vector Prime again.

Look at that smug look on his face in that picture. Thinks he's so important. Answer my question you jackass!

You ok?

I loved reading ask Vector Prime back in the day. Sure I knew it was fake and nothing major would be revealed but it sure looked like someone at Hasbro was having fun.

Haha this is awesome. I'm sure anyone who got into the franchise with Cybertron is just the right age to enjoy this.

Va'al wrote:Via the official BotCon Twitter account, we get another preview at some of their comics fiction for this year's Cybertron Most Wanted cast of characters - specifically, the page shows a little insight into the role and past of the Thief, Packrat (with art, writing and everything else by Jesse Wittenrich). Check out the mirrored image from Collections below, and browse our very own Seibertron.com gallery of the toy right here!

Okay, that can't be the Beast Wars cartoon proper since Sentinel was taken by the Predacons and never installed in the Maximals' seasons 3 base. He would have then been destroyed by Tigerhawk when Tigerhawk blew up the Predacon base. So this has to be another alternate version of it.

Va'al wrote:A couple of days ago we reported on BotCon's social media and fiction efforts via the Axiom Nexus news crew. What has made its appearance since is a more interactive page, also part of the same initiative for the 2015 event, under the name of Ask Vector Prime! Read on below to find out more about it, and head here to pose your own queries.

Vector Prime, one of our most venerable elders, answers some of your questions as a way to foster better understanding between Cybertronians and humans.

Wow, first we get more entries of this in the Complete AllSpark Almanac book, and now a full fledged Facebook page. Neat!

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:Um o can't use the links also THERES A SG UNICRON?

Where did you get SG Unicron from?



There is nothing that says anything about an SG Unicron.

Go back to Page 1 of this topic.

Bumblevivisector wrote:(Is there still a PDF of Alignment floating around out there somewhere? I only know of the one that was stored on the late, great, Megaupload)

See this thread.

Bumblevivisector wrote:Oh, maybe VP will give us an in-continuity (cuz we know what happened in the real world) explanation of what destroyed the Dreamwave universes! Or does that already exist?

Well, since Battletrap comes from Dreamwave G1, it probably still exists.

Is that thing on his face a moustache? His teeth? WTH?

MaverickPrime wrote:Is that thing on his face a moustache? His teeth? WTH?

Yeah I saw that too. It's an old pic, surprised that I never noticed it before. Now I can't take my eyes off of it.

Page 2 of the "Collections" preview comic is up - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/599272098025054208/photo/1



The third and final page will be up on Monday - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/599293210238656512

Pete Sinclair has chimed in on the nature of this mini-comic:

The 'Collections' one shot takes place at some point after the Beast Wars. We haven't even defined what Universe this is from. One thing that seems to be the case, as you all know, is Beast Wars exists in many different timelines. This may be another timeline that has similar traits to the G1 toon continuity, Wings continuity or whatever other ones that are floating out there and contains Beast Wars but also contains one of these little stories that are specific to THAT timeline.

And Jesse Wittenrich followed up with:

Yup. And a significant amount of time after the Beast Wars as well. The fighting took place across the entire planet, spreading parts and pieces everywhere. Including the bottom of an ocean *looks at Depth Charge's fin and Rampage's claw*. Packrat has spent a LONG time on his collection; he's picked up everything, not just the pile we see in one panel.

Via fiction aficionado and Seibertronian Sabrblade, we have the second part of BotCon/FunPub's comic 'Collections' (first part was posted here), featuring Packrat (the Thief) and his encounter with Waspinator Thrustinator. You can read it mirrored below, along with some clarification from Pete Sinclair and creator Jesse Wittenrich, via fellow fansite The Allspark.

Pete Sinclair wrote:The 'Collections' one shot takes place at some point after the Beast Wars. We haven't even defined what Universe this is from. One thing that seems to be the case, as you all know, is Beast Wars exists in many different timelines. This may be another timeline that has similar traits to the G1 toon continuity, Wings continuity or whatever other ones that are floating out there and contains Beast Wars but also contains one of these little stories that are specific to THAT timeline.

Jesse Wittenrich wrote:Yup. And a significant amount of time after the Beast Wars as well. The fighting took place across the entire planet, spreading parts and pieces everywhere. Including the bottom of an ocean *looks at Depth Charge's fin and Rampage's claw*. Packrat has spent a LONG time on his collection; he's picked up everything, not just the pile we see in one panel.

They might as well just show off the convention exclusives seeing how two of them have already been leaked. Did funpub even aknowledge the green roadbuster and black skids on social media or are they just staying quiet with piss in their pants ?

Does anyone suspect a transformers combiner wars/combiner hunters repaint of Nexus prime to be done?

Starsaber468 wrote:Does anyone suspect a transformers combiner wars/combiner hunters repaint of Nexus prime to be done?

I could actually see that considering they will have the Combaticon/Aerialbot molds to work with. I hope they do, that way I can mash my 2 FP Bruticus sets together into Energon Bruticus Maximus. Right now I'm using the old one as Nexus Prime.

Rated X wrote:They might as well just show off the convention exclusives seeing how two of them have already been leaked. Did funpub even aknowledge the green roadbuster and black skids on social media or are they just staying quiet with piss in their pants ?

Wrong thread, X. This is the fiction thread, not the toy reveal thread.

You just posted in something you probably didn't want to.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:They might as well just show off the convention exclusives seeing how two of them have already been leaked. Did funpub even aknowledge the green roadbuster and black skids on social media or are they just staying quiet with piss in their pants ?

Wrong thread, X. This is the fiction thread, not the toy reveal thread.

You just posted in something you probably didn't want to.

And what ever happened to the infamous thread merging? I would think everything Botcon 2015 would and should be on one thread. Its not like theres that much of it. And thats the problem. Their marketing strategy is dumb. And im loving all these leaked figures from China. They should take the wake up call seriously and just show off the goods.

Rated X wrote:And what ever happened to the infamous thread merging? I would think everything Botcon 2015 would and should be on one thread.

This is in the Cartoon and Comics Forum. And this isn't strictly a BotCon 2015 thread either. I'm the one who created this thread, and did so to let it be a general nexus of discussion for all BotCon and TCC related fiction, past and present, as stated on Page 1 of this thread.

And even regardless of that, your post about toys was off topic for the news story you commented on anyway, as the news was about a comic page that had nothing to do with the toys you mentioned.

So please, if you wish to discuss those toys, take it back to the BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives Toy Reveals thread and leave it there.

After seeing Page 1 and Page 2 of the Packrat One-Shot "Collections", it was only a matter of time before Page 3 was Tweeted (via Botcon)! But not to worry, we won't spoil the conclusion for you, so keep scrolling to see this final page! And stick around to discuss the events of the strip in our Energon Pub, or check out our Exclusive Galleries. You're always welcome to hang around at Seibertron.com!

Wow its the racoon guy damn it the 9ne time i can't remember hsi nqme is now lol

his name is Heinrad

grimdragon2001 wrote:his name is Heinrad

It's even mentioned in the comic lol

Damn, Heinrad. Appearing in multiple Con-exclusive comics?

The bearings on you.

You know i'm surprised that the club hasn't made a Heinrad yet. I know that finding a right figure's a bit difficult, but I don't think people would be too heartbroken if it dosen't look exactly like his original toy, or fictional art.

I actually bought an original Heinrad from an anime store in the next town across the bay not too long ago.

I like that this is a sort of follow up to the previous "Timeless" story, and that Heinrad is making good on his promise to help Thrustinator once they get this business over with.

With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious.

Sabrblade wrote:I actually bought an original Heinrad from an anime store in the next town across the bay not too long ago.

I like that this is a sort of follow up to the previous "Timeless" story, and that Heinrad is making good on his promise to help Thrustinator once they get this business over with.

With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious.

Well if you think about it, for oilmaster it'd play off the fact he was never released, like there's only one of him or something. But for Megatron let me propose an analogy.

Spoilers for a game it's your own fault for not playing for years ago now. Okay so at the end of bioshock infinite; the protagonist Booker DeWitt learns that the antagonist, Zachary Hale, Comstock is infact himself from an alternative timeline that split into multiple after one decision. This decision was to be "born again" in baptism to wash away all the horrible things he'd done. If he went through with it, he'd become the zealous American Exceptionalist Comstock. If he backed out booker would remain the same. Long story somewhat shorter, Elizabeth, Booker's companion and daughter decide to set things right that once went wrong because despite the fact they succeeded, there are still infinite others that died or failed horrifically. To solve this Elizabeth drowns booker as he goes through the baptism to circumvent Comstock, and related timelines from being created, making Booker dying if he is baptized a constant because she's sorta god. Flash forward to the second to last DLC for the game, Burial at Sea. In B@S you learn the booker you've been playing as is infact Comstock, but how could this happen? Well sometime before and during the climax of infinite proper, this Comstock was so ract with guilt after accidentally killing Elizabeth, he flees to an alternate universe to escape his past. Meaning that he was severed from his universe, meaning when booked was drowned at the end of infinite to prevent Comstock from existing, his timeline ceased to exists but because he was completely severed from it, making him anomalous. That's why hard cor noir Elizabeth decided to kill him, because he shouldn't exists. What if the same is true with movie Megatron? Now we all now the movie operate by Saturday morning cartoon logic, the bad guy always loses. What if that was interpreted literally. Think about all the ways Megatron could've died. He could've died on impact arriving on earth. He could've never been found due to some reason and remind in ice. Sector 7 could've destroyed him trying to solve the mysterious nature of him or maybe because man is not meant to have this much power, or something. What if Frenzy died, or sam died, or starscream just gave up and he was never found in the Hoover Dam. What if there were no parts of the allspark left,, or the decipticons never bothered to resurrect him in ROTF. Or maybe he got all of his head blown off instead of most of it at the end. Maybe between movies he just keeled over from his wounds. Anyway, the club bio suggests that this Megatron is one that didn't die at the end of Bark at the Moon, killing prime instead. What then? At thst point he's living on borrowed time, he'll die or get murdered because Saturday morning cartoon logic, the bad guy never wins. So the day comes and this bad enough dude to stop, Megatron named Rodimus comes along and is pretty content on killing him. So the two fight, and at the point it can go a few ways. Rodimus straight guts Megatron and kills him, or Megatron is killed by his doomsday weapon or space bridge or whatever because hubris. What is this is the one Megatron that goes against his nature and lets go into the unknown as the clubs bio suggests, this was the one variation that wasn't killed by the space bridge or whatever and went in at the right time, landing him in the nexus. This is the one Megatron that's not meant to be, he's the only Megatron that didn't lose or get murdered because he cut himself off from his own universe making him an anomaly.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well if you think about it, for oilmaster it'd play off the fact he was never released, like there's only one of him or something.

Hmm, I could see it working for the notion of his being unreleased, but the "only one of him" bit might be a bit of a conflict since there's an Oilmaster in both the Japanese G1 cartoon continuity and in the Wing Universe. However, as both were seen with Magnificus (in his e-HOBBY Generations body, no less), it's possible someone could retcon the two Oilmasters (and the two Magnificuses) into being the same as each other, with the JG1 version having dimension-hopped into the Wingsverse or something.

Sabrblade wrote:With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious.

Megatron definitely is the product of one. Remember his bio? Based on the climatic battle of Dark of the Moon, only with Megatron winning instead of being killed by Optimus?

Heinrad is a pretty rad Transformer! He travels through time, transforms like a morphing tanuki and has bigger balls (scale wise) than Bayverse Devastator!
I grabbed mine from Amazon maybe a yearish ago for a darn good price.
I really like the BW Neo figures. Wish I had more.
The Heinrad depicted in this comic appears to have big wheels on his back.

Convoy wrote:The Heinrad depicted in this comic appears to have big wheels on his back.

Yep, he's TransTech Heinrad instead of the ordinary BWNeo Heinrad.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious.

Megatron definitely is the product of one. Remember his bio? Based on the climatic battle of Dark of the Moon, only with Megatron winning instead of being killed by Optimus?

Do people tune out when I start talking about bioshock? I only brought it up because it related in concept to my idea for DOTM megatron in the club fiction.

Double post.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Do people tune out when I start talking about bioshock? I only brought it up because it related in concept to my idea for DOTM megatron in the club fiction.

I know I did. Sorry.
It was an interesting take but... Transformers.. um...um.
Oh, did I trail off there..?
I guess I did.

Edit: *snip snip*

Oh hey so, the club posted a preview of the comic.Check em

Seibertron native SW's SilverHammer has informed us all of a 3 page preview of the 2015 Botcon Box Set Comic! It includes the five new characters from this set, and cameos.... almost everyone else. Plus a certain shrouded fella who has yet to be revealed. Scroll down to see the preview and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your Transformers News!

Not going to BotCon, so I won't be reading the full issue or picking up the figures, but I did like the strongarm appearance in the end, cool to see that character being integrated into other fiction.

Speaking of Funpub related stuff, did anybody mention that 3.0 subscribers are starting to receive Carzap in the mail ? Hoping mine comes tomorrow. I love me some G2.

Moosey wrote:Not going to BotCon, so I won't be reading the full issue or picking up the figures, but I did like the strongarm appearance in the end, cool to see that character being integrated into other fiction.

Grimlock's in the crowd on page 1, well, two of them, actually. RID and a made-up one?

I'm willing to bet the censored character is General Optimus Prime from Generations Roadbuster.