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#Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand

Transformers News: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand

Tuesday, September 12th, 2017 4:19AM CDT

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Moving once more to Transformers: Power of the Primes, we have an additional clip showing the display case after the Sunday update for the figures we have collected already in our galleries (which we have shown here)! The video pans over the likes of new Orion Pax / Optimus Prime, Hot Rod / Rodimus Prime, Swoop, Slash, Grimlock, Slug, Snarl, and Sludge (as well as the previously revealed figures shown at SDCC earlier this year) - and the best look yet at the grey prototype of their combined mode, Volcanicus, talked through by the Transformers brand team!

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Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910342)
Posted by ExciKaiser on September 12th, 2017 @ 4:25am CDT
I still wonder why we saw only the grey prototype combined.
I mean the 5 dinobots are ready, they changed disposition of the booth several times (optimus in package, combined, uncombined), why not the dinobots ?
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Posted by Deathsanras on September 12th, 2017 @ 4:39am CDT
Dagon wrote:
Deathsanras wrote:
Also, it has been confirmed throughout the week that, as in Combiner Wars, every deluxe in Power of the Primes can be an arm or a leg.

Wait, so since Optimus Primal, Hot Rod and Orion Pax are all Deluxes, albeit paired with the Leader gimmick, does that mean they also function as combiner limbs, and thus there could be a "Primes" combiner?



Do you mean like the Deluxe figure from Rodimus could be used with Optimus or Primal? That would be pretty neat, and there's a chance that the larger bodies might be engineered similarly enough to make it possible. Possibly.

We knew Starsream was going to be a torso from the SDCC images. That may have been the worst kept secret of this convention. But, what if since the combined mode is going to be crowned Starscream, what if they just reuse the Galvatronus head from CW Cyclonus? It's kind of crownish already.... and that would be unfortunate.


I was thinking more like having a CW Optimus Prime torso with "Deluxe-ish"-stage Optimus Primal, Hot Rod, Orion Pax and someone else, like, I don't know, one of the inevitable Leader redecos/remolds (Guardian Prime? Prime Nova? Rodimus Unicronus?), as limbs.
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Posted by Insurgent on September 12th, 2017 @ 4:51am CDT
No. The 'Deluxes' in the Leader figures lack the combiner peg. They integrate into their trailers differently. Unless that's a feature they haven't revealled yet.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910348)
Posted by Chibi Starscream on September 12th, 2017 @ 5:01am CDT
A lot of these look good. I definitely want all the Dinobot remakes! Is it just me or do a lot of these look better thn their original counterparts from the 80's? Other bots look a bit too bulky or different, while others have improved, and some have fantastic looking robot modes and ugly alt modes or vise versa.
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Posted by Prowl4 on September 12th, 2017 @ 5:50am CDT
Sodan-1 wrote:I don't know how long it takes to develop a figure so this may be a stupid question, but is it possible the leader class "evolution" gimmick was conceived after the fan vote for the new Prime? If not then I'm going to put my tin-foil hat on and say Hasbro would have guaranteed Arcee, Hound and Shockwave wouldn't win. What were they going to do, develop and produce a $50-$60 figure of a brand new character with no media support??? Of course not!

I really think they've screwed up Optimus Primal. They've taken the core character, the character destined to become Prime, and turned him into an accessory!!!

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I think it would've been more faithful if Primal transformed into his gorilla mode, and the Optimal armour transformed in to the tank and fighter mode. Alt-mode connectivity could've seen Primal fit in the back/top of the vehicle.


Arcee and Shockwave would've had little to no support imo and Arcee would've been a major headache for hasbro as I don't think a leader version would sell at all.

Aside from star saber I think hound would have been a solid choice as he's in the movies and just has to be pushed into more IDW comics and maybe rid to get the exposure needed. After seeing primal I'm so disappointed that star saber or hound didn't win and I'm sure people feel the same about their preferences.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910352)
Posted by Qwan on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:19am CDT
Oh dear, that video seems to have confirmed all my fears about Volkswagonicus' shoulder construction; you can see the joints start to shift and droop as the arms (or just the figure in general) are moved. I'm super looking forward to all the Dinobots anyway so it's not like it's a deal-breaker or anything, but it'd be too bad to have a potential combiner available that I never want to actually build.
That aside...


I just want to say how darn excited I am for Power of the Primes now! It seems a far cry now from back when we saw the first reveals a few months ago, and the reaction was a resounding "meh" from many corners of the fandom. Of course opinions are a little more divided now (in large part thanks to what we've seen of Leader Primal and Hun-grrrrr), but stronger opinions on both sides are way better than everyone sitting unenthusiastically in the middle IMO :D .

Even the toys that made me feel the opposite of excited originally are definitely warming me up a little thanks to the pictures we've gotten here. Starscream's gone from my least favorite of the original reveals to a fairly-decent interpretation of the character with inklings of a kickin' combiner torso, and Rodimus... well, let's just say that if that "Deluxe" Roddy really is closer to Voyager size, I'm gonna have to set aside another $80(AUD) more than I was planning to before Hascon. It says something when Jazz, probably the guy I was most hyped about from the initial reveals, is now seventh in my priority list out of just the Deluxes we've seen revealed so far (including Rippersnapper, who looks like he's in the running to be my new favorite thing ever :x )!

So far, I hesitate to say that this line is gonna be as much of a hit-the-ground-running slam-dunk that TR was, but I'm sure as all heckers looking forward to snapping up most (well, almost all actually :roll: ) of these guys - and I can't wait to get a good look at what else they have up their sleeves for the remainder of this line!
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910353)
Posted by Viollustre on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:22am CDT
The Hot Rod figure looks amazing, I'd say the chest proportions look even better than the masterpieces!

The Dinobots looks positively great individually, but the combined mode looks a little problematic. From the coverage, we can immediately see that the grey prototype always had a hand in standing up. Finding the right amount of friction to keep him combined was the main challenge posed to the designers. To add on to that, the prototype used another pair of combiner hands to prop up the torso. Having said that, the form of the torso seemed to stay intact when one hand was removed, but one must wonder why they'd come up with such an odd design choice.

Lastly, what's up with those long tabs protruding from Grimlock's arms? It looks like they could tab into Grimlock's torso mode to lock up the torso, and it kinda looks that way in a prototype image I saw somewhere. Yet if that's true, the placement of the arms would be very odd.

Or I could just be thinking too much into it.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910357)
Posted by Kurona on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:40am CDT
Lucky Logician wrote:Dear Hasbro,

Do you want to make a Convention exclusive figure that will bring all the boys to the yard for sure? Do a little retooling and turn Moonracer into Rung. No one will give a damn about the alt mode; they'll all be too busy being happy to own a Rung.

Thank you.

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Seriously though. This mold is already pretty close to Rung. Like so close that I'd almost think it is a pre-tool for Rung. (The only reason I don't think so is because Rung is a bit of an obscure character.) Hasbro just needs to get the Lost Light writers to come up with some reason to bring Rung back and turn him into a car. Then Ta-Da, it would be perfect!

Now I friggin' need this. At the very least I need Shapeways to get to work on a head!!
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910360)
Posted by Insurgent on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:44am CDT
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Posted by Kurona on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:47am CDT
Now I just have to hope Moonracer's head is on a 5MM balljoint :-?

Talking of Moonracer, does anyone else find it funny that we got so many characters in Combiner Wars who were retools of each other; including major players like Prowl and Swindle and the brand new fan-made Combiner... and then we get to POTP, where Moonracer gets her own mold of all characters? Crazy 8-}
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910364)
Posted by Insurgent on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:53am CDT
If not, there's a few titan master adaptors floating around, I'm sure one for moonracer will get made.


And yes, Rung out of moonracer is genius. That idea needs to happen. And I think Anode out of Windblade would work.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910365)
Posted by Kurona on September 12th, 2017 @ 6:57am CDT
Insurgent wrote:If not, there's a few titan master adaptors floating around, I'm sure one for moonracer will get made.


And yes, Rung out of moonracer is genius. That idea needs to happen. And I think Anode out of Windblade would work.

I'd love a major retool out of Mindwipe since that's the transformation she was based on... but yeah, I'd settle for something simpler like that.

And bring on Lug out of Rewind!!!
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910369)
Posted by Cobotron on September 12th, 2017 @ 7:28am CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:I still wonder why we saw only the grey prototype combined.
I mean the 5 dinobots are ready, they changed disposition of the booth several times (optimus in package, combined, uncombined), why not the dinobots ?

I was wondering this too. Maybe because they were hand painted prototypes, or there are some fragility issues with production samples. Maybe they only have that one set of finished samples.
It was curious indeed.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910372)
Posted by Qwan on September 12th, 2017 @ 7:54am CDT
Cobotron wrote:
ExciKaiser wrote:I still wonder why we saw only the grey prototype combined.
I mean the 5 dinobots are ready, they changed disposition of the booth several times (optimus in package, combined, uncombined), why not the dinobots ?

I was wondering this too. Maybe because they were hand painted prototypes, or there are some fragility issues with production samples. Maybe they only have that one set of finished samples.
It was curious indeed.

Is it possible that only the visible surfaces were painted on the Dinobot prototypes? I don't really know the details of how hand-painted prototypes would usually be done. If that's the case though, I suppose it's possible that the combiner-specific parts (notably the combiner head) would be unpainted so they might not have wanted to display it like that. (Partly-finished painting can be far more confusing as to the nature of a product's final deco, than a fully-unpainted prototype is.) Who knows for certain, though - I have the feeling it'll go down as yet another unsolved mystery for us to debate for a few days then totally forget about :P .
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910373)
Posted by RAR on September 12th, 2017 @ 7:54am CDT
I don't suppose anyone thought to have a polite chat with Hasbro about the terrible quality of their sticker stock ?

I think Starscream and Grimlock are gonna have some issues.

It comes to something then a cheap knock off like the NBK Engineering Constructicons has better decoration than an official toy.

I would be more excited about these if I ever for one moment thought that they were actually likely to make it into stores in may area (a few at best might).

They've just given up on selling toys now it seems.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910381)
Posted by Evil Eye on September 12th, 2017 @ 8:12am CDT
Oh good god Volcanicus' torso mode is a joke. That is a pity. Oh well, the Dinobots look good enough to justify themselves as individual figures, and if any combined mode was gonna be screwed up I'd rather it was the Dinobots and not Abominus.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910427)
Posted by Va'al on September 12th, 2017 @ 10:42am CDT
Moving back to Transformers: Power of the Primes, we have some more renders from figures in the line (after the official presentation images seen here) - specifically for the 'evolution' set of Orion Pax (sort of deluxe class) into Optimus Prime (leader class), featuring two truck modes, two robot modes and an illustration of the Prime Master / Matrix of Leadership feature. Check them out below!

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Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910433)
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:02am CDT
Leader Prime could make a good stand in for MP-10. I'm interested in getting him, but I'm also into Hot Rod and Primal.
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Posted by o.supreme on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:14am CDT
So...Is it too early to talk about Box Sets? -I know in some regions, some were online exclusives, but generally speaking, Hasbro released 7 for CW, and 2 for TR (btw...was the 4 box set thing ever confirmed by Hasbro? Since only 2 were reported from Toy Fair back in Feb, or was it just speculation based on the fact that there were 4 clones?)

Anyway...I love the box sets, but from what's been reported, they generally don't sell well. I still maintain that if they were offered at B&M in the United States, they would sell fairly well if the CoV set has shown us anything...Yes I see the pics from Canadian toy stores where they just sit, and the fact that HTS pretty much sold all their CW sets at some point up to 70% off, which are all detractors.

however we know we are getting Predaking next year, as the Titan for summer 2019. There are still several Combiners that could be developed. Also the CW toyline had 6 waves, TR had 5 (I'm not counting Slugslinger, since he easily could have been included in wave 5...) .

Most all of the first 2 waves have been revealed...and portions of waves 3 & 4 have been leaked...Is anyone holding out any hopes for any other box sets besides Predaking in this line? I know I am, but I know Hasbro doesn't want to lose money either, so we may not... :(
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910446)
Posted by galvatron00 on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:24am CDT
I can't wait to paint those hands blue!! I need to start locking in my pre-orders when they go up. This line is gonna be AMAZING!
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910447)
Posted by Kurona on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:25am CDT
Eh, it doesn't exactly break any rules; speculation happens here all the time. Hell, considering we now know how about 4/6 of the waves will go due to leaks - and that some later-wave Deluxes can be predicted due to team completion needs - there's actually not a whole lot else to speculate about. Go for it my dude.

I'm fully expecting to get Combiner boxsets like we did back in CW since, well, this is basically CW redone (and from what we've seen, I'd argue it's being done better). Since Legends no longer form guns or chestplates or what have you though, we might not see those as part of Combiner boxsets -- maybe we'll get two Prime Masters per boxset instead? :-?

I do wonder exactly what boxset Combiners we'll get, though. Abominus and Predaking don't have G2 or even prototype G2 colourations to call upon like the 1986 guys, and most other Combiners are completely original ones made up of old characters. There's also not a fan-made Combiner this time around either.
I still like the idea of G2 Defensor though, especially since Inferno aside none of those molds are in use in the line and hence you're getting something which feels a little more fresh. Moreso if you started with TR or this line. ... also, I want to see everyone's reactions to another use of the Alpha Bravo and Dead End molds :lol:
G2 Dinobots could also be a thing since we had some of those guys released in G2 while the others at least had G2 concept colours.
Maybe they'd save some retools for an eventual Pirhanacon or Monstructor boxset?
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910455)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:54am CDT
I think this is the first time I've been excited about other offerings actually. PotP Dinobots, Starscream (Voyager), and Leader Optimus Prime and Rodimus are both on my to buy list. Titan Predaking and maybe the Terrorcons too. Wonder if there's going to be another Megatron, but you know I'm content with what we've got of him for the last couple years since the CW Leaders were shown and released. It'll be nice to balance my CW G1 Megatron with the PotP Optimus Prime though. Definitely will scale better than the CW Voyager Optimus Prime I have.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910456)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 12th, 2017 @ 11:56am CDT
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Grimlocks torso mode looks pretty problematic. Shame too cause I am excited for Volcanicus.

And that Optimus Prime... It just looks so good
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910461)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on September 12th, 2017 @ 12:05pm CDT
We've seen Prime's "matrix master" quite a lot now, but have we had a chance to see its robot mode?
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 12th, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:We've seen Prime's "matrix master" quite a lot now, but have we had a chance to see its robot mode?


That's Micronus, largely based on Pretender Cloudburst, and is available separately.

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He's merely used as an example in how he can replace the (non-transforming) Matrix Core.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910491)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on September 12th, 2017 @ 2:20pm CDT
That's Micronus, largely based on Pretender Cloudburst, and is available separately.

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He's merely used as an example in how he can replace the (non-transforming) Matrix Core.[/quote]

Ah, I was mistaken. I though this whole time the Matrix of Leadership would be another "master," and I was really curious about what that'd look like. Plenty of G1 material on the Mateix they could used in an homage. I'm thinking something from Rodimus's Matrix dream from Face Faces of Darkness.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910495)
Posted by steals_your_goats on September 12th, 2017 @ 2:55pm CDT
I think people are so quick to jump on the hate train that they forget to use common sense. The combined mode that was shown off is a resin prototype, not plastic. Resin is very light and would most likely fall apart if not supported. That's why it was being held up. That's why the torso looks so cobbled together. It has nothing to do with the design of the figure it's the materials it's made out of.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910502)
Posted by DMSL on September 12th, 2017 @ 3:19pm CDT
Dinobots combined mode doesn't look good, but that's not a big deal for me as they will never be in that form once on display. I do still think deluxe class is too small for them. They should bump them all up one class, so that would make Grimlock a leader and the rest voyagers. In my opinion that would make more sense and they will look better next to the other figures.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910548)
Posted by Qwan on September 12th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:I think people are so quick to jump on the hate train that they forget to use common sense. The combined mode that was shown off is a resin prototype, not plastic. Resin is very light and would most likely fall apart if not supported. That's why it was being held up. That's why the torso looks so cobbled together. It has nothing to do with the design of the figure it's the materials it's made out of.

I'm sure that's true to some extent, but you can't say it doesn't look at least a little worrying. Admittedly it's possible that Grimlock's robot arms/dino legs/combiner shoulders will have CW-Long-Haul-strength ratchets, but from what we've seen they appear to be basically all that's holding the entire combined arms up - so if they're even a little bit too weak on the final toy, Voluptuousicus is probably going to be frustrating to say the least.

(Man, I'm starting to run out of dumb things to replace Volcanicus' name with. But I've already locked myself into this awful running "joke"; I can't just give up now! :P )
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910564)
Posted by X3ROhour on September 12th, 2017 @ 10:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I am so glad to see that that Orion Pax was not given the kissy lips that he had in the cartoon.

nothin' wrong with full, kissy lips!
i would know
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Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910583)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 13th, 2017 @ 2:48am CDT
Most of the "pretenders" are sure buy from me. As well as that neat Orion Pax & Optimus Prime combo.

I'll wait and see for the Dinobots. Individually, the bots are amazing, but that combined for look awkward. Plus, who bet the team will be in a 150$CAN set?
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Posted by ExciKaiser on September 13th, 2017 @ 4:10am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Plus, who bet the team will be in a 150$CAN set?


With gold chromed parts...
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Posted by Va'al on September 13th, 2017 @ 4:25am CDT
We return to the Hascon coverage that you may have missed, as more recordings have made it onto our YouTube channel - starting with the Prime Wars Trilogy panel that saw the likes of toy designers, comic artists, concept artists, and game developers all take the stage to discuss the various phases of the progression from Combiner Wars to Titans Return, now to Power of the Primes!

People taking the lead are John Warden, Mario Carreiro, IDW's Marcelo Matere, Space Ape's Adam Kramarzewski and David Erwin and the material included in the clip, and the gallery that accompanies it, range from the blueprint of the Prime Wars concept, running through used and unused concepts and designs (including Megatronus, Prima, a SkyShadow looking Thunderwing and more), plus the clips we've seen from Machinima's Titans Return and Transformers: Earth Wars. Check it all out below!

Enjoy designs behind the celebrated Combiner Wars chapter of the Prime Wars Trilogy, animated in partnership with Machinima, as well as a peek at the upcoming Titans Return animated series. Learn how Hasbro enlisted the fan universe to expand their story world and the beloved characters that have brought the story to life. Fans in attendance will also be the first to see exciting reveals from the popular mobile game Transformers: Earth Wars published by Backflip and developed by Space Ape games.




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Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910594)
Posted by Insurgent on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:32am CDT
There's the Devastator version of that Predaking stage we saw. So now we know what to call it. Not a mock up, but a Scale Model. Neat.
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Posted by noctorro on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:39am CDT
DMSL wrote:Dinobots combined mode doesn't look good, but that's not a big deal for me as they will never be in that form once on display. I do still think deluxe class is too small for them. They should bump them all up one class, so that would make Grimlock a leader and the rest voyagers. In my opinion that would make more sense and they will look better next to the other figures.


Eh, they can't scale everything up bro.
I was very surprised we even got Combiner Wars with deluxe limbs.
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Posted by noctorro on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:45am CDT
That Optimus looks very good.

However, I just ordered that Third Party Titans Return Power Master Prime cab to replace that hollow thing it has. So...
Anyway this Optimus looks a lot more like G1 Optimus.

The thing that bugs me, why the faux/fake chest?
Just like the Third Party Ginrai, why can't they just make a true G1 Optimus torso again?

I do hope they remold Orion Pax into a more G1 looking Optimus Prime at some point. But overall like this version and will pick him up (like all the other Power of the Primes figures as soon as I finish collecting all of the Titans Return figures, damn you Hasbro everything you made from Combiner Wars on is pure win in my eyes)

Maybe that's why the movie sucked, because they poured all their efforts into their Classics/Generations line.

Little bit on the fence about Starscreams tiny head and fake chest. But it's a lot better looking than the Combiner Wars seekers which I'm replacing the heads for self made 3d prints.

As for the new beast combiners... just awesome.
I need to clone myself because I don't have enough time to enjoy all the awesomeness they've been making in recent years. It's just too much for one Transformers fan :s
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910608)
Posted by LE0KING on September 13th, 2017 @ 7:18am CDT
Is that just the base sketch of blackshadow or are we seeing a potential retool?
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Posted by mordhelm on September 13th, 2017 @ 7:25am CDT
LE0KING wrote:Is that just the base sketch of blackshadow or are we seeing a potential retool?


A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.

You know what that also means? Chances of DJD or other IDW in-fiction only characters getting the Generations treatment at higher scales is slim to none.
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Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2017 @ 7:30am CDT
Which is strange; since TR just gave us Nautica, Quickswitch, Sky Shadow and Metalhawk.

Or maybe the design team thinks that one 1988 six-changer who was never in anything ever is more popular than a prominent villain in their multi-universal mythology, a recent cartoon and a live-action movie that made them a heckton of money. Seems rational to me.
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Posted by LE0KING on September 13th, 2017 @ 7:45am CDT
mordhelm wrote:
LE0KING wrote:Is that just the base sketch of blackshadow or are we seeing a potential retool?


A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.

You know what that also means? Chances of DJD or other IDW in-fiction only characters getting the Generations treatment at higher scales is slim to none.

Ah now I see them, both megatronus and prima. Too bad, they look cool. Personally I don't think leader scale works for them, but anything is better than nothing.
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Posted by mordhelm on September 13th, 2017 @ 8:30am CDT
Kurona wrote:Which is strange; since TR just gave us Nautica, Quickswitch, Sky Shadow and Metalhawk.

Or maybe the design team thinks that one 1988 six-changer who was never in anything ever is more popular than a prominent villain in their multi-universal mythology, a recent cartoon and a live-action movie that made them a heckton of money. Seems rational to me.


I'm not complaining about the characters we are getting. I have been quite happy with the inclusion of the female autobots in the toys and the current series (RiD and IDW), especially since it helps my daughter maintain interest in transformers. Oddly though, her favorite figure is Gnaw. We have put together a decent sized Gnaw army (the Gnawrmy as we say).

The thing I am a bit shocked by is that there were a ton of repaint/retool possibilities in TR that would have made sense, and hasbro chose not to overload us this time.
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Posted by dragons on September 13th, 2017 @ 8:32am CDT
noctorro wrote:
DMSL wrote:Dinobots combined mode doesn't look good, but that's not a big deal for me as they will never be in that form once on display. I do still think deluxe class is too small for them. They should bump them all up one class, so that would make Grimlock a leader and the rest voyagers. In my opinion that would make more sense and they will look better next to the other figures.


Eh, they can't scale everything up bro.
I was very surprised we even got Combiner Wars with deluxe limbs.


It looks like combiner wars devastator prototype figure without mixmaster looking arm limbs and long haul bot mode there identical hard to say having devastator with all figures leader class that will be master piece combiner figure
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910670)
Posted by ExciKaiser on September 13th, 2017 @ 11:21am CDT
mordhelm wrote:
A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.


Or it can be a "sh*t ! who let this design for next year in the slide ? let's pretend we abandonned it".
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910674)
Posted by DestronMirage22 on September 13th, 2017 @ 11:27am CDT
Geez, all these reveals have been amazing.
I want all the Dinobots but can't afford them all. :-(
Looks like I'll just be sticking to Jazz, the Pretenders, Slash (sooo adorable!! ♥), and possibly Starscream.
As much as I'd like to actually complete a combiner this time around, I'm still as broke as ever and the only way that'll happen is if a boxset goes on discount at Ross or whatever. :(
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910713)
Posted by LE0KING on September 13th, 2017 @ 1:39pm CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:
mordhelm wrote:
A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.


Or it can be a "sh*t ! who let this design for next year in the slide ? let's pretend we abandonned it".

No.
Don't give me that hope.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910716)
Posted by Rysquad on September 13th, 2017 @ 2:17pm CDT
mordhelm wrote:
Kurona wrote:Which is strange; since TR just gave us Nautica, Quickswitch, Sky Shadow and Metalhawk.

Or maybe the design team thinks that one 1988 six-changer who was never in anything ever is more popular than a prominent villain in their multi-universal mythology, a recent cartoon and a live-action movie that made them a heckton of money. Seems rational to me.


I'm not complaining about the characters we are getting. I have been quite happy with the inclusion of the female autobots in the toys and the current series (RiD and IDW), especially since it helps my daughter maintain interest in transformers. Oddly though, her favorite figure is Gnaw. We have put together a decent sized Gnaw army (the Gnawrmy as we say).

The thing I am a bit shocked by is that there were a ton of repaint/retool possibilities in TR that would have made sense, and hasbro chose not to overload us this time.


That ~$1600 theory makes more and more sense.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910718)
Posted by DeathReviews on September 13th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
I'll probably get all of these new combiners no doubt. Still, it looks like they haven't done much to make Volcanicus look good from the BACK. Like Menasor and others, he suffers from the fact that his codpiece doesn't wrap around to cover his butt properly. And it looks like some of the deluxe parts don't mesh well with the voyager core....
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910734)
Posted by Seibertron on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:07pm CDT
Courtesy of our friends at Hasbro, we now have official images of some upcoming Transformers Power of the Primes toys. These figures were all officially revealed during this past weekend's HASCON convention in Providence, RI. Included below are summaries and images of the following characters: Slash, Sludge, Swoop, Slug, Snarl, Grimlock, Optimus Prime and Orion Pax. You can view full galleries of these figures in our HASCON 2017 galleries as well as a video on our YouTube channel.

TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES MICRONUS PRIME MASTER
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/Available Fall 2017)
The TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES MICRONUS PRIME MASTER figure is a 1.5-inch-scale figure that hides inside the included CLOUDBURST decoy armor (aka Pretender). The Prime Master robot can convert into spark mode and attach to a Power of the Primes Deluxe, Voyager, or Leader Class figure (Not included. each sold separately). The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the legendary bots who shaped the universe: the Primes. The MICRONUS Prime Master gives other bots the ability to link and share powers. How will the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use this power-link ability? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 001

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Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 002

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Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 003

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Prime Master Micronus Cloudburst 004


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUDGE
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
The TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUDGE is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SLUDGE wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the mighty DINOBOT warrior wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Dinobot Deluxe Sludge 001

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Dinobot Deluxe Sludge 002

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Dinobot Deluxe Sludge 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUG
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
Watch out for the horns on this TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SLUG figure. This is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SLUG wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the fire-breathing warrior DINOBOT SLUG wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Dinobot Deluxe Slug 001

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Dinobot Deluxe Slug 002

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Dinobot Deluxe Slug 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SNARL
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
There’s no need to snarl at the new TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SNARL figure. This is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. Each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SNARL wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the surly DINOBOT SNARL wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Dinobot Deluxe Snarl 001

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Dinobot Deluxe Snarl 002

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Dinobot Deluxe Snarl 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SWOOP
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $16.99/Available Fall 2017)
Fans can soar through the air with Hasbro’s new TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES DELUXE CLASS DINOBOT SWOOP figure. This is a 5.5-inch-scale figure that comes with a Prime Armor accessory. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine DINOBOT SWOOP wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the fearsome bombardier DINOBOT SWOOP wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Dinobot Deluxe Swoop 001

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Dinobot Deluxe Swoop 002

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Dinobot Deluxe Swoop 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEGENDS CLASS DINOBOT SLASH
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $9.99/Available Fall 2017)
The fearsome SLASH is back with the TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEGENDS CLASS DINOBOT SLASH figure. This is a 3.75-inch-scale figure. When this LEGENDS CLASS DINOBOT SLASH figure is in raptor mode, Prime Master (Not included. Each sold separately) figures can ride on the figure's back. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the incredible powers of the legendary bots who shaped the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the elite DINOBOT tracker wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Dinobot Legends Slash 001

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Dinobot Legends Slash 002

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Dinobot Legends Slash 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES VOYAGER CLASS GRIMLOCK
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/Available Fall 2017)
The leader of the DINOBOTS returns with Hasbro’s new TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES VOYAGER CLASS GRIMLOCK figure. This is a 7-inch-scale figure that comes with 2 Prime Armor accessories. Insert a Prime Master figure (Not included. each sold separately) into one of the accessories, attach it to the figure, and imagine GRIMLOCK wields the power of a Prime. The AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS use Prime Masters to wield the godlike powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. How will the mighty DINOBOT leader GRIMLOCK wield this epic power? Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Dinobot Voyager Grimlock 001

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Dinobot Voyager Grimlock 002

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Dinobot Voyager Grimlock 003


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEADER EVOLUTION OPTIMUS PRIME
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $49.99/Available Spring 2018)
AUTOBOTS unite around Hasbro’s TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS POWER OF THE PRIMES LEADER EVOLUTION OPTIMUS PRIME figure. This 9-inch-scale figure comes with a Matrix of Leadership accessory and converting Evolution Armor. Change the trailer into the Evolution Armor to evolve this figure from ORION PAX OPTIMUS PRIME. With the Prime Masters (Not included. Each sold separately), imagine AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS can wield the incredible powers of the most legendary bots in the universe: the Primes. Prime Masters carry the spark of a Prime, allowing them to share a Prime's godlike ability with other bots. Anything is possible and everything is at stake when the Power of the Primes is unleashed! Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.

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Leader Class Optimus Prime 001

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Leader Class Optimus Prime 002

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Leader Class Optimus Prime 003

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Leader Class Optimus Prime 004

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Leader Class Optimus Prime Orion Pax 001

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Leader Class Optimus Prime Orion Pax 002

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Leader Class Optimus Prime Orion Pax 003
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910735)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:11pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:
ExciKaiser wrote:
mordhelm wrote:
A look at an attempt at Megatronus that was deemed "too obscure" by management for Leader class figures.


Or it can be a "sh*t ! who let this design for next year in the slide ? let's pretend we abandonned it".

No.
Don't give me that hope.


No worries there. No chance a leader Megatronus comes out in PotP since all the primes are itty-bitties, and next year is all PotP.
Re: #Hascon 2017 Transformers: Power of the Primes Display Video, plus Volcanicus in Hand (1910737)
Posted by the_neptrix on September 13th, 2017 @ 5:24pm CDT
They've alternated blue and red chest Swoop, what, five times now? And for some reason, Grimlock's teeny toes bothers me more than it should.

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